The Red Pillers and other extreme misogynists I write about regularly on this blog live in something of a fantasy world. And while their fantasies about the present are tempered — at least somewhat — by reality, their fantasies of the future are not; they can let their fetid imaginations roam.
And so it’s no surprise that the visions of the future that dance in the heads of so many Red Piller resemble bad science fiction. Or that so many of them involve the allegedly stuck-up women of today getting their ultimate comeuppance.
Some dream that sex robots and artificial wombs will make women “obsolete.” Others dream of impending catastrophes that will force uppity women to turn to men, humbly and meekly, begging for protection.
A recent post on Return of Kings with the unsubtle title “4 Reasons Why Collapse Will Be The Best Thing To Happen For Men” offers an elaborate revenge fantasy for deeply insecure would-be alpha males. The improbably named “Corey Savage” makes clear from the start that his apocalyptic predictions fantasies are rooted in his desire to say “told you so” to “feminist harpies’ and “loser male feminists.”
As Savage sees it, our world is close to being overwhelmed by economic disasters, “widespread degeneracy and demographic upheavals … Collapse in the near future appears to be a matter of when, not if.”
But fear not, men — “the destruction of the world as we know it could be the best thing that ever happens” to you. With the bravado of a teenager telling his mom that “you’re not the boss of me,” Savage predicts the ultimate collapse of evil dictatorships and the so-called “nanny state.”
With the Frankenstein centralized governments no longer around to dictate people’s lives and use them as lab rats for their social experiments, you will have all the freedom in the world. No more taxes, no more surveillance, no more PC policing, no more divorce courts, no more forced multiculturalism, and so on. You alone will be responsible for your life with no one to bail you out and no one to blame.
In this libertarian world, Savage imagines,
you’ll be free to create the society you want. Still think Communist utopia is possible? Good luck. Want to start an all-white Aryan state? Be my guest. Want to create a progressive rainbow society without all the racist-sexist-homo-transphobe-Nazi-bigots? Great, get out of my sight.
Just don’t get too uppity, you man-hating ladies!
Think all men are rapists and want to live in a lesbian tribe? Have fun trying to build anything or defending yourselves (assuming you even have something worthwhile to defend.)
Ah, yes, now we come to the heart of the fantasy: women and “wimps” being put in their supposed place.
No more corporate serfdom, no more putrid consumerism, no more technological slavery, and no safe spaces for the cry-babies to hide and cry in. Wimps, complainers, and the weak will not survive.
No complainers? Weird, because almost all I ever hear from Return of Kings is complaints.
Savage sets forth a vision of a “masculine” restoration that is equal parts Fight Club and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.
One of the best aspect of the new order would be the return of masculine virtue. [O]nly an organized group of men with strength, courage, mastery, and honor … will prevail in the post-apocalyptic world. Men will be men again.
Who knows what savage energy is begging to be unleashed within that man serving as an office drone? Who knows if that guy flipping burgers for a minimum wage will become the future tribal leader? How many men today are living jaded and unfulfilling lives when they could be fighters and warriors instead?
I don’t know, but the number is certainly a lot smaller than the number of men who think that the endless hours they’ve spent playing Fallout have prepared them for real life postapocalyptic warrioring.
And now we come to the “told you so” section of Savage’s apocalyptic fantasy — which is really the whole point of the thing.
And guess what? There won’t be feminist harpies demanding “equality” when strong men are needed to rebuild civilization and defend against gangs and rival tribes. They’ll be begging for some of that “toxic” masculinity to come and protect them. They’ll kneel in submission to a patriarchal order faster than they would have screamed “rape!” in the previous world.
Keep it in your pants, dude. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Suddenly, with their government boyfriend gone and the internet white knights nowhere to to be found, their whole feminist charade will shatter and the ridiculousness of it all will become apparent. The unstable and fat ones will likely disappear first as they offer no value to anyone.
Yep, his vision of the future is basically an elaboration of the classic misogynist rallying cry: NO FAT CHICKS.
Also in the new world, the SJWs and the rest of the progressive freaks will die faster than a gay snowman in Saudi Arabia. … There won’t be anymore idiotic debates about who is right or wrong: only who survives and who doesn’t.
Evidently Savage is so tired of having his ass handed to him in these “idiotic debates” that he’d rather have the whole world collapse in a heap rather than endure another humiliating loss.
I would love to see how well the loser male-feminists fare against the very men they love to bash without a computer screen to hide behind.
Says a guy who bashes feminists while, well, hiding behind a computer screen, telling readers on the About page of his blog that “[d]etails about myself are not as important as the content that I write here.”
The impatient Savage ends his manifesto by encouraging his readers to, well, help the collapse come a little faster.
The change you want to see is not going to appear peacefully through some online arguments, petitions, protests, or asinine ‘democratic’ processes. You cannot fix a rotting society; you must tear it all down and start from scratch.
So Savage wants men to use non-peaceful tactics to “tear … down” what he thinks is a decadent and “degenerate” society in order to humble women and bring back the patriarchal rule of men?
That sounds more than a little bit like the “Islamic terror” that the boys at Return of Kings are always railing against.
Mark is a troll. But I loved your take-down, Paradoxical Intention.
I kind of feel bad for the young man in the avatar. It’s most likely stolen.
You’ve inspired me to write an outline for An MRA Christmas Carol.
Part I
Ebenezer Scroowedbythegynocracy is your typical mangina. He opens doors for women. He pays his child support on time because he *gasp!* cares about his child’s wellbeing. Why, he doesn’t even live in fear of false rape accusations!
After a horrific Christmas eve spent with his current girlfriend, his ex and her current boyfriend, and his kids he goes home to binge watch Orange Is The New Black on Netflix. He doesn’t even misgender Sophia.
Then, who should come through the TV screen? Why, it’s the ghostly figure of Dean Esmay. He’s draped in white robes and the chains of the Title IX Feminazi Divorce Court Rape Tribunal. He is here to tell Ebenezer that he is about to go on a journey through time to witness the horrors that women have visited on men throughout history.
To be continued …
And what, pray tell, do you think our “true intentions” are, Mark?
Because I know my “true intention” is to get you to shut the fuck up and actually go your own way and leave women alone.
Shoo. Git.
“I love how LGBT+ people don’t exist to Mark.”
You’re a tiny percentage of the population. You’re an anomaly in statistical terms. Statisticians erase you from general population statistics. It’s no just me. You’re an outlier.
Lesbians all over the world thank you, Mark! We know how to build lives with other women. Now run along!
“Because I know my “true intention” is to get you to shut the fuck up and actually go your own way and leave women alone.”
Yes, yes. Stop men from stating their case. Forbid them from speaking their minds. But by all means, continue the man hate.
A quick google search and you can see most western civilizations have increased if not doubled since 1950. I don’t think a few people not marrying and/or having kids–as people, amazingly, can have children out of wedlock, I being a prime example of being such a child along with many of my cousins and such–will impact the population of your glorious western civilization you care about so much, so, I mean, I’m not worried.
And, on Japan’s population, both men AND women are opting out of marriage due to the expectation put on people when they’re married, men expecting to be overworked salarymen, women quitting their jobs and do nothing but raise children–so they’re just not getting married because they don’t want to be put into stupid ass gender roles but MRA types always conveniently forget about women opting out too.
@ calmdown
Well technically the Goths were immigrants, but they were also the backbone of the Roman Legions at that point, when they finally got fed up with being second class citizens, trashed the place and ended up founding Western Europe.
@ Mish
But then Mark’s whole life would be a giant lie, and that can’t be true! right? right?
“Lesbians all over the world thank you, Mark! We know how to build lives with other women. Now run along!”
Actually, I’d like to watch. Woman on woman is, well, every boy’s fantasy.
My true intentions are to have children with someone who gives a damn about them. You’ve caught me, Mark. You sly bastard.
A “tiny percentage” appears to be enough to get same-sex marriage laws and anti-discrimination laws passed, so kindly go fuck a cactus.
Of course, I would ask you for numbers, but, you obviously graduated from Assfax U., so I’m not going to bother.
A prince proposed to some random princess out of the blue.
The princess said “I don’t even know you”.
The prince tried to convince the princess.
The princess had to get a restraining order.
The prince went back to his little prince friends and bragged about having turned down a princess.
The prince spent years trying to contact the princess in various ways, just to tell her how happy he is that they never got married.
The princess said “JUST LEAVE ME THE FUCK ALONE, YOU FUCKING CREEP”.
The prince said “Yeah, I will leave you alone. How do you like THAT?”
The princess said “YOU’RE STILL HERE. JUST FUCKING LEAVE AND NEVER COME BACK.”
The prince read her a several pages long statement that he had copied from a MGTOW website.
The princess turned up the volume in her earbuds to drown the prince’s voice out.
The prince raised his voice.
Through the loud music, the princess could vaguely make out “YOU’LL SEE…BE SORRY…MEN OPT OUT…ENJOY CATS”
The prince’s mom eventually called from upstairs to inform him that dinner’s ready.
The princess lived happily until 40 minutes later when the prince came back to bother her again.
Any statician who considers 3.8% of the population to be an outlier isn’t worth their salt.
Jenora
Not necessarily. Some people in various places are already substituting much more successful agricultural strategies and deliberately abandoning the expensive and resource depleting ‘green revolution’ crops and approaches.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hmkgn0nBgk
Strangely enough, this only works when everyone cooperates.
“And, on Japan’s population, both men AND women are opting out of marriage due to the expectation put on people when they’re married, men expecting to be overworked salarymen, women quitting their jobs and do nothing but raise children–so they’re just not getting married because they don’t want to be put into stupid ass gender roles but MRA types always conveniently forget about women opting out too.”
Actually – women in Japan attribute their reason for not marrying to most men not making at least 80K yen annually. But have it your way. As far as I can see – it’s all prostitution.
The idea that you speak for all men is absolutely laughable. I know of several men here who think you’re full of shit.
I don’t give a fuck if you talk about women. I just want you to do it elsewhere. I have a right to not see your ignorant bullshit thrown on the walls.
You’re fucking disgusting, you know that? No wonder women don’t want to date you.
Lesbians don’t exist for your shitty porn fetishes. Get the fuck out.
@Mark
Does that make my unemployed ex-boyfriends gigolos?
Don’t you have Reddit, 4Chan, 8Chan, Return of Kings, Stormfront, uh, A Voice for Men, maybe? MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Blogspot, and other WordPress sites at least to go rant on? You have your own WordPress account, judging by the fact you have an avatar, you can just start a blog and rant on that. No one’s going to stop you unless you start planning hate crimes or something. The internet is very lenient about hate speech, if you can’t tell.
“A “tiny percentage” appears to be enough to get same-sex marriage laws and anti-discrimination laws passed, so kindly go fuck a cactus.”
Small percentages of society have done far more damage than gay marriage. I’m pretty thankful that’s as far as you have to go. What’s funny is that most gays probably wont marry. Hilarious. Whey I say gays, I’m lumping all the gay women and men together. If you’d prefer “lesbian”, please let me know and I’ll accommodate.
“Don’t you have Reddit, 4Chan, 8Chan, Return of Kings, Stormfront, uh, A Voice for Men, maybe? MySpace, Facebook, Twitter, Tumblr, Blogspot, and other WordPress sites at least to go rant on? You have your own WordPress account, judging by the fact you have an avatar, you can just start a blog and rant on that. No one’s going to stop you unless you start planning hate crimes or something. The internet is very lenient about hate speech, if you can’t tell.”
Oh no. This is far, far more entertaining. I’m loving this.
Oh, like white men who shoot up schools and movie theaters? I’ve never heard of an LGBT shooter though. I wonder why?
And plenty of “the gays” get married, and many more will now that they actually have the option to. Your speculation is pulled right from your rectum on that one.
And if you want to “accommodate” me, you can do so by fucking off, like I’ve asked you to do several times now. I’m already done with your bullshit, you disgusting little shit.
@Mark
The single largest ethnic group in the world is the Han people of China, then the Arabs, and the Bengalis (1.75b). Even if Western birthrates matter (and they don’t) the East already beat us in that department
White people (and the Japanese, for some reason) number just over 1b people (more if you count Hispanic whites). It’s at this point, were procreation actually a competition, the mercy rule woulda kicked in and ‘the West’ would been sent home with a participation trophy. No use crying over spilt milk (heh), Mark. Join the rest of us in the multi (omni?) cultural future. We’ll have cookies
@kupo
And that’s a low estimate 🙂
“The idea that you speak for all men is absolutely laughable. I know of several men here who think you’re full of shit.”
White Knights and Captain-Save-A-Hos are like that.
I always find trolls a bit odd. Here we all our, sitting in our little online coffee clutch, discussing a fictional apocalypse and tittering about whatnot and such and in busts some troll.
Troll: Women are prostitutes and marriage is a con!
WHTM: Umm go away, no one invited you. . .
Troll: You’ll all be sorry when you’re all alone/poor/whatever
WHTM: Did you at least bring cupcakes?
(I mean really, who shows up to someone’s door empty handed, so rude)
Troll: MISANDRY
WHTM: Pls. go away already, why are you even here?
Troll:STOP TRYING TO SILENCE ME
Every fucking time you guys. . .every fucking time.
Edited to add: It’s too bad Mark is such a shitheel, I just checked out his linkedin, and he seems to have compatible interests. and I do love baking cookies for geeks. . .
If you have a tantrum on a blog that nobody reads, did the tantrum even really happen?