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Return of Kings writer yearns for an apocalypse that will put ladies in their place

Watch out, gals -- or this could happen to you!
Watch out, gals — or this could happen to you!

The Red Pillers and other extreme misogynists I write about regularly on this blog live in something of a fantasy world. And while their fantasies about the present are tempered — at least somewhat — by reality, their fantasies of the future are not; they can let their fetid imaginations roam.

And so it’s no surprise that the visions of the future that dance in the heads of so many Red Piller resemble bad science fiction. Or that so many of them involve the allegedly stuck-up women of today getting their ultimate comeuppance.

Some dream that sex robots and artificial wombs will make women “obsolete.” Others dream of impending catastrophes that will force uppity women to turn to men, humbly and meekly, begging for protection.

A recent post on Return of Kings with the unsubtle title “4 Reasons Why Collapse Will Be The Best Thing To Happen For Men” offers an elaborate revenge fantasy for deeply insecure would-be alpha males. The improbably named “Corey Savage” makes clear from the start that his apocalyptic predictions fantasies are rooted in his desire to say “told you so” to “feminist harpies’ and “loser male feminists.”

As Savage sees it, our world is close to being overwhelmed by economic disasters, “widespread degeneracy and demographic upheavals … Collapse in the near future appears to be a matter of when, not if.”

But fear not, men — “the destruction of the world as we know it could be the best thing that ever happens” to you. With the bravado of a teenager telling his mom that “you’re not the boss of me,” Savage predicts the ultimate collapse of evil dictatorships and the so-called “nanny state.”

With the Frankenstein centralized governments no longer around to dictate people’s lives and use them as lab rats for their social experiments, you will have all the freedom in the world. No more taxes, no more surveillance, no more PC policing, no more divorce courts, no more forced multiculturalism, and so on. You alone will be responsible for your life with no one to bail you out and no one to blame.

In this libertarian world, Savage imagines,

you’ll be free to create the society you want. Still think Communist utopia is possible? Good luck. Want to start an all-white Aryan state? Be my guest. Want to create a progressive rainbow society without all the racist-sexist-homo-transphobe-Nazi-bigots? Great, get out of my sight.

Just don’t get too uppity, you man-hating ladies!

Think all men are rapists and want to live in a lesbian tribe? Have fun trying to build anything or defending yourselves (assuming you even have something worthwhile to defend.)

Ah, yes, now we come to the heart of the fantasy: women and “wimps” being put in their supposed place.

No more corporate serfdom, no more putrid consumerism, no more technological slavery, and no safe spaces for the cry-babies to hide and cry in. Wimps, complainers, and the weak will not survive. 

No complainers? Weird, because almost all I ever hear from Return of Kings is complaints.

Savage sets forth a vision of a “masculine” restoration that is equal parts Fight Club and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.

One of the best aspect of the new order would be the return of masculine virtue. [O]nly an organized group of men with strength, courage, mastery, and honor … will prevail in the post-apocalyptic world. Men will be men again.

Who knows what savage energy is begging to be unleashed within that man serving as an office drone? Who knows if that guy flipping burgers for a minimum wage will become the future tribal leader? How many men today are living jaded and unfulfilling lives when they could be fighters and warriors instead?

I don’t know, but the number is certainly a lot smaller than the number of men who think that the endless hours they’ve spent playing Fallout have prepared them for real life postapocalyptic warrioring.

And now we come to the “told you so” section of Savage’s apocalyptic fantasy — which is really the whole point of the thing.

And guess what? There won’t be feminist harpies demanding “equality” when strong men are needed to rebuild civilization and defend against gangs and rival tribes. They’ll be begging for some of that “toxic” masculinity to come and protect them. They’ll kneel in submission to a patriarchal order faster than they would have screamed “rape!” in the previous world.

Keep it in your pants, dude. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Suddenly, with their government boyfriend gone and the internet white knights nowhere to to be found, their whole feminist charade will shatter and the ridiculousness of it all will become apparent. The unstable and fat ones will likely disappear first as they offer no value to anyone.

Yep, his vision of the future is basically an elaboration of the classic misogynist rallying cry: NO FAT CHICKS.

Also in the new world, the SJWs and the rest of the progressive freaks will die faster than a gay snowman in Saudi Arabia. … There won’t be anymore idiotic debates about who is right or wrong: only who survives and who doesn’t.

Evidently Savage is so tired of having his ass handed to him in these “idiotic debates” that he’d rather have the whole world collapse in a heap rather than endure another humiliating loss.

I would love to see how well the loser male-feminists fare against the very men they love to bash without a computer screen to hide behind.

Says a guy who bashes feminists while, well, hiding behind a computer screen, telling readers on the About page of his blog that “[d]etails about myself are not as important as the content that I write here.”

The impatient Savage ends his manifesto by encouraging his readers to, well, help the collapse come a little faster. 

The change you want to see is not going to appear peacefully through some online arguments, petitions, protests, or asinine ‘democratic’ processes. You cannot fix a rotting society; you must tear it all down and start from scratch.

So Savage wants men to use non-peaceful tactics to “tear … down” what he thinks is a decadent and “degenerate” society in order to humble women and bring back the patriarchal rule of men?

That sounds more than a little bit like the “Islamic terror” that the boys at Return of Kings are always railing against.

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Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@SFHC: I think David’s asleep, and Mark’s been posting here for a few hours now, so his insta-moderation was lifted.

Of course, Mark’s looking to get “censored” because Mark doesn’t know what words mean.

He’s going to get banned, but he certainly won’t be “censored”.

He also doesn’t know the difference between the words “blogging” and “commenting”.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

Scented Fucking Hard Chair: Cynical Sybil.

@KindaSortaHarmless

Certain words, phrases and length of text will put a post through moderation.

You know, David, I think you need to really get some mods here.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

I have a feeling Mark’s been banned from here before. I swear, all the short term trolls we’ve had over the past few months have sounded exactly alike. I’m sure they’re not all the same person, but some of them are certainly the same person.

BTW, I bet I’d be banned from AVFM faster than anyone ever gets banned her if I actually cared to troll over there.

BVH
BVH
8 years ago

Women will crumble in battle with men. How many of you want to stand before me in one fight? I’m 6′ 3″ and 300lbs. I know women. I’d slaughter you with little effort. I’d crush you like a toothpick. One or two punches – that’s all it would take.

Speaking as a veteran, my general understanding is battles in proper modern wars are fought with some sort of firearms. And lots and lots of bombs. Perhaps things have changed in the decade since I served. If you plan to go into battle with nothing but your fists against people using guns, artillery and air cavalry, I don’t think you’ll last very long.

FYI.

Ooglyboggles
Ooglyboggles
8 years ago

Oh Phooey, he already bit the dust, and all I could get from him, was him unironically believing in the puppet master of FemWO. I was certain that my ethnic background and insulting his martyr fetish would be enough to make him start using racial slurs.

Axecalibur
Axecalibur
8 years ago

Moving away from our ogre (troll is too benign a word)… Hey, all. Gun control sit in updates:

Sens. Warren and Sanders showed up. Liz came with donuts. Paul Ryan cut the TVs. Perfectly within his rights, but not a good look. Sitters used phones to take video. Not within their rights. GOP tried to legislate around them. It got a little rowdy by US gov standards. Obama supports the sit in, but will almost certainly never get within 1000 feet of this thing. Hillary may or may not have met with the sitters beforehand (1 source, total asshat). There’s a crowd outside the Capitol. Still going strong inside. Eleanor Holmes Norton looks exactly like my mom in 25 years 🙂

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

@Axelcalibur

Someone better bring in some sandwiches. Maybe some canned stuff and a port-o-potty. It’s gonna be a while.

Axecalibur
Axecalibur
8 years ago

@Jack

@AxeLcalibur

Noice 🙂

But yeah, apparently the donuts were part of a bigger food insurgency. Sen. Dems showed up with pizzas, snacks, and hometown vittles. The whole place is lit! Or the more boring, congressional equivalent
Also, there’s enough of em, so a bunch of em can go pee without losing too many sitters. This could go all the way! I’m a bit giddy actually

BritterSweet
8 years ago

I was napping too when that troll squirmed in. Thank David he got banned just as I woke up. As I was reading the thread and the first several of his comments before I just started skipping them altogether, my general response to his bits about marriage and especially lesbians were

http://cdn.playbuzz.com/cdn/3ae9dbf2-3cb6-492a-aa81-7ff6865fa496/5f2eb5f0-dcb4-4b2c-87db-80b7f4bf5138.gif

Can we get back to talking about how we would contribute to each other’s survival as a community? That was actually enjoyable.

[POSSIBLE TRIGGER WARNING for suicide implication]

I realized something kind of nice when the thread was about our skillsets and plans. Months ago, on another site there was an open thread about what we would do to survive after the end of the world. My answer was that I would not survive, much less want to. If by a tiny chance I didn’t get killed in the initial chaos, I would probably “opt out” early on or volunteer for a dangerous one-way mission to at least be useful when I go. Quite different from my first comment here.

Why the change this time? Maybe it’s because reading the thread, I felt like being with the right people would make it worth at least trying to survive.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Aw, BitterSweet, we’d love to have you in our WHTM Apocalypse Rainbow Commune.

I’ll make Root Vegetable Stew, we can have cows and goats and a couple of chickens, a small library where people can trade books for small amounts of supplies, we can even get a small herd of cats and use their shedded fur to make sweaters for the winter months. It’ll be great.

cleverforagirl
cleverforagirl
8 years ago

Oh Bittersweet, honey.

You’re useful and wanted. Beer and bread don’t make themselves, many hands make light work.

Axecalibur
Axecalibur
8 years ago

@BitterSweet
Just. Fucking. Aaawww!
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You can be most useful by helping out around the homestead and, most importantly, just keeping everyone company! What use is a hyper progressive hippie cabin in the Russian taiga without friends? Family, good family, loves having you around <3

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

@AxeLcalibur

Noice ?

I don’t even know how that happened considering I just copy and pasted it.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

And I also double posted. Lovely.

Order them some hero sandwiches.

authorialAlchemy
authorialAlchemy
8 years ago

Awww, I always miss the trolls!

Let’s see, what would I do in an apocalypse? I might end up as a leader, but not THE leader. Some sort of post apocalyptic senator or judge. Or we’ll just be communists.

I know how to build basic structures with wooden poles/sticks, twine or rope, nails, and scrap metal and wood. I can forage and cook. I know how to take care of farm animals, especially chickens. I have a green thumb.

It’s really clear that survival takes all sorts. Lone alpha wolves are going to have a hard time.

Mish
Mish
8 years ago

@BritterSweet – seconding and thirding everyone: what a lovely comment that was :). The WHTM commune is shaping up beautifully; so glad you’re part of it.

You napped at exactly the right time. It boggles the mind that some people are such losers – Mark put all that effort into goading and insulting, incomprehensible as much of it was, just so he could get banned and feel all bad-ass.
How is that someone’s idea of a good time? 😛

ETA: WeirwoodTH, your xmas carol instalments are absolute GOLD.

Monzach
Monzach
8 years ago

Nthing praise for WWTH’s MRAmas Carol. Those posts were more than worth trudging through the rest of the four pages of posts that appeared during my sleep. 😀

I’d love to be part of WHTM’s hippie commune in case of the apocalypse happening as well. I’m not very good with survival skills, unfortunately, but I’m fairly strong, pretty tall and I have a sizable library of good books that I could bring with me. 🙂

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@Monzach:
http://static.celebuzz.com/uploads/2013/06/14/freeze-frame-high-five.gif

We need to curate as many books as possible, bruh.

All the MRA Alphuh guys will have for books is Ayn Rand and Fight Club.

(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
8 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You actually expect anyone to believe you? OMG, you’re adorable.

You’ve definitely convinced me to vote for Hillary if it gets you and other mediocre, hateful, proudly ignorant people like you gone.

ETA: Well, that’ll teach me to spend an enjoyable evening playing Fallout instead of using a troll as a chew toy. 😛

(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
(((Her Grace Phryne))): Tool of the Butt-Worshipping, Lesbian-Powered Elite
8 years ago

At least they won’t run out of toilet paper. 😛

Monzach
Monzach
8 years ago

@PI:

Okay, NPH is pretty much my new fantasy cast for when they make a biopic of my life. 😀 I’m also pretty certain that if they do make a biopic of my life it’ll be the most boring movie ever made (yes, even more boring than the 87-hour movie called “Cure for Insomnia”).

As for curating a book collection, I’m pretty decently stocked with various fiction titles from the 20th century (I have two shelves of my bookcase that are filled with the works of Terry Pratchett and P. G. Wodehouse, respectively) and I also have enough non-fiction titles aimed at young readers that we’re well on our way to having a school library. Sorry about the teal deer, by the way. I just get enthusiastic about books.

Shaenon
8 years ago

As an aside, 80k yen is about $760 US. No one, however frugal, is going to survive a year on that.

Ha ha, I noticed that too! Those entitled Japanese women, demanding a man who makes over $800 a year!

I liked this troll. Reminded me a little of NWOSlave with the snotty attitude and femocracy conspiracy theories. I also like how quickly he went from amused mastery to flipping the eff out when people just kept chuckling at his antics.

Not gonna marry him, though. Sorry, dude. You tried.

EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

@WWTH: Your Christmas Charles were amazing. Kudos.

I’m disappointed that nobody took the time to make a Christmas Adam joke though. It’s the MRAest time of the year!

(Christmas Adam: 23 December. Comes before Eve and is generally less satisfying.)