The Red Pillers and other extreme misogynists I write about regularly on this blog live in something of a fantasy world. And while their fantasies about the present are tempered — at least somewhat — by reality, their fantasies of the future are not; they can let their fetid imaginations roam.
And so it’s no surprise that the visions of the future that dance in the heads of so many Red Piller resemble bad science fiction. Or that so many of them involve the allegedly stuck-up women of today getting their ultimate comeuppance.
Some dream that sex robots and artificial wombs will make women “obsolete.” Others dream of impending catastrophes that will force uppity women to turn to men, humbly and meekly, begging for protection.
A recent post on Return of Kings with the unsubtle title “4 Reasons Why Collapse Will Be The Best Thing To Happen For Men” offers an elaborate revenge fantasy for deeply insecure would-be alpha males. The improbably named “Corey Savage” makes clear from the start that his apocalyptic predictions fantasies are rooted in his desire to say “told you so” to “feminist harpies’ and “loser male feminists.”
As Savage sees it, our world is close to being overwhelmed by economic disasters, “widespread degeneracy and demographic upheavals … Collapse in the near future appears to be a matter of when, not if.”
But fear not, men — “the destruction of the world as we know it could be the best thing that ever happens” to you. With the bravado of a teenager telling his mom that “you’re not the boss of me,” Savage predicts the ultimate collapse of evil dictatorships and the so-called “nanny state.”
With the Frankenstein centralized governments no longer around to dictate people’s lives and use them as lab rats for their social experiments, you will have all the freedom in the world. No more taxes, no more surveillance, no more PC policing, no more divorce courts, no more forced multiculturalism, and so on. You alone will be responsible for your life with no one to bail you out and no one to blame.
In this libertarian world, Savage imagines,
you’ll be free to create the society you want. Still think Communist utopia is possible? Good luck. Want to start an all-white Aryan state? Be my guest. Want to create a progressive rainbow society without all the racist-sexist-homo-transphobe-Nazi-bigots? Great, get out of my sight.
Just don’t get too uppity, you man-hating ladies!
Think all men are rapists and want to live in a lesbian tribe? Have fun trying to build anything or defending yourselves (assuming you even have something worthwhile to defend.)
Ah, yes, now we come to the heart of the fantasy: women and “wimps” being put in their supposed place.
No more corporate serfdom, no more putrid consumerism, no more technological slavery, and no safe spaces for the cry-babies to hide and cry in. Wimps, complainers, and the weak will not survive.
No complainers? Weird, because almost all I ever hear from Return of Kings is complaints.
Savage sets forth a vision of a “masculine” restoration that is equal parts Fight Club and The Secret Life of Walter Mitty.
One of the best aspect of the new order would be the return of masculine virtue. [O]nly an organized group of men with strength, courage, mastery, and honor … will prevail in the post-apocalyptic world. Men will be men again.
Who knows what savage energy is begging to be unleashed within that man serving as an office drone? Who knows if that guy flipping burgers for a minimum wage will become the future tribal leader? How many men today are living jaded and unfulfilling lives when they could be fighters and warriors instead?
I don’t know, but the number is certainly a lot smaller than the number of men who think that the endless hours they’ve spent playing Fallout have prepared them for real life postapocalyptic warrioring.
And now we come to the “told you so” section of Savage’s apocalyptic fantasy — which is really the whole point of the thing.
And guess what? There won’t be feminist harpies demanding “equality” when strong men are needed to rebuild civilization and defend against gangs and rival tribes. They’ll be begging for some of that “toxic” masculinity to come and protect them. They’ll kneel in submission to a patriarchal order faster than they would have screamed “rape!” in the previous world.
Keep it in your pants, dude. You’re embarrassing yourself.
Suddenly, with their government boyfriend gone and the internet white knights nowhere to to be found, their whole feminist charade will shatter and the ridiculousness of it all will become apparent. The unstable and fat ones will likely disappear first as they offer no value to anyone.
Yep, his vision of the future is basically an elaboration of the classic misogynist rallying cry: NO FAT CHICKS.
Also in the new world, the SJWs and the rest of the progressive freaks will die faster than a gay snowman in Saudi Arabia. … There won’t be anymore idiotic debates about who is right or wrong: only who survives and who doesn’t.
Evidently Savage is so tired of having his ass handed to him in these “idiotic debates” that he’d rather have the whole world collapse in a heap rather than endure another humiliating loss.
I would love to see how well the loser male-feminists fare against the very men they love to bash without a computer screen to hide behind.
Says a guy who bashes feminists while, well, hiding behind a computer screen, telling readers on the About page of his blog that “[d]etails about myself are not as important as the content that I write here.”
The impatient Savage ends his manifesto by encouraging his readers to, well, help the collapse come a little faster.
The change you want to see is not going to appear peacefully through some online arguments, petitions, protests, or asinine ‘democratic’ processes. You cannot fix a rotting society; you must tear it all down and start from scratch.
So Savage wants men to use non-peaceful tactics to “tear … down” what he thinks is a decadent and “degenerate” society in order to humble women and bring back the patriarchal rule of men?
That sounds more than a little bit like the “Islamic terror” that the boys at Return of Kings are always railing against.
Mark’s so happy about being “turned into” an asexual (that’s not how it works, Mark) that he came here to complain about marriage and birth rates.
What a “happy asexual” you are Mark, coming here to try and prove to us how happy you are…
Most people who are happy don’t need to go out of their way to try and tell everyone they’re happy. Most people who are happy just go about their lives and be happy instead of trying to convince everyone around them (or in this case, a feminist blog full of people that don’t give a shit) that they’re happy.
And an asexual is someone who doesn’t experience sexual attraction. That’s not necessarily something you can choose. There are asexuals who have become asexual through (most often sexual) trauma and become asexual to cope, but none of them, as far as I’m aware, choose to be asexual.
The world you’re looking for is “celibate”, someone who has opted out of having sex for whatever reason. You’re choosing not to have sex. Therefore you are celibate. Like a monk, only you unfortunately didn’t take a vow of silence to go along with it.
If you were an aesexual, you’d be lumped in as one of “the gays”, because asexuals are part of the LGBT+ community.
Yet again, Mark doesn’t know what a dictionary is, or that words mean things.
Sorry, ladies. Asexual it is. Feminism has turned me off to women completely. As I wasn’t gay to start with – I have no attraction to men either. Lesbian’s fornicating still somehow holds an attraction.
The stuff about paying attention to China and female conscription is real. There will come a great war in which all must enlist. I think it’s great that women’s heads will roll as well as men’s. It’s equality, don’t cha know. It’s long past time that women have their body parts blown across the battlefield for their own entitlement and smugness. Maybe they’ll gain a little character.
I’ve actually never met a feminist that isn’t either anti-conscription entirely or pro-women’s-conscription.
I’ll sign up for the draft as soon as they legislate it, provided I’m not past the age cutoff (no idea what it is). Happy to do it, though I hope no one ever needs to be called up again.
Mark, for one thing, you’re a fucking idiot. Words mean things, and you can’t just go and say “Yeah, I’m totally this!” when people who are in the community are saying “No, you’re not, because of these reasons.”
Two, you’re asking for parity, not equality. Why the fuck is it when men think of equality, they think they get to brutalize, murder, and otherwise harm women?
And who the fuck is going to war with China? Trump? I don’t fucking think so.
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That’s where most of his tacky suit and hat factories are.
The rest are in Mexico.
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“I’ll sign up for the draft as soon as they legislate it, provided I’m not past the age cutoff (no idea what it is). Happy to do it, though I hope no one ever needs to be called up again.”
Count yourself a hero soul. The world needs more like you – even if you are a woman. Expect to get crucified in battle by men.
I’m just happy Mark won’t be reproducing.
I do have a question that isn’t about Mark.
Is aromanticism a thing? Can you be aromantic without being asexual? Because my sexual orientation is definitely hetero, but I don’t seem to need or desire romantic relationships all that much. I really never have. I used to want them when I was younger, but it was more of a validation thing because women’s value gets tied in with her relationship status. Once I stopped caring about gender norms, I stopped caring about having a boyfriend or wanting to get married. It’s not a gender swapped MGTOW thing, I just don’t feel like I need a partner at all.
My rambling will probably get lost in the trolling. Maybe I should save it for the next open thread.
“And who the fuck is going to war with China? Trump? I don’t fucking think so.”
Funny how you didn’t mention all of the wealthy democrat children that skipped out – hypocrite. Where are Hitlary’s draft papers? Oh – that’s right. Women don’t have to fight for their own rights. Men’s deaths suffice.
Shut the fuck up.
As far as I’m aware, yes.
Romantic orientations are separate from sexual orientations, even if many people’s romantic and sexual orientations match.
For instance, I’m pansexual and panromantic, but someone else could be bisexual and homoromantic, meaning they are sexually attracted to two or more genders, but are only interested in relationships with people of the same gender.
So, you can be aromantic and be heterosexual.
Hey, hey, pansexual aromantic here. The answer is yes. You can also still form romantic relationships but you won’t have a real desire for them nor a desire doing all the romantic crap, although doing stuff to make your partner happy is a pretty nice feeling.
Of course, you can be grey-romantic, which is similar to grey or demi-sexual where you only get have a romantic attraction in certain situations.
I meant that Trump would take us to war with China, Mr. Illiterate, which would be bad on his part, because he makes a fuck-ton of money doing business over there.
But, when are you being forcibly shipped out, Mark?
What’s that? There isn’t a draft going on and there hasn’t been one since the seventies? So, does that mean that Mark’s full of shit? Experts say “yes”.
Of course, you could learn to conquer your Selective Illiteracy, and go back and read what I said about most feminists being anti-draft entirely or at least pro-women-draft, but then that would disrupt your little straw-feminist argument, and then you’d actually be required to respond to something I actually said, and not what you think I said.
Oh, I’d get crucified in battle by anyone of any gender.
The thing is, 99.9% of feminists who aren’t totally anti-draft feel this way, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you think you’re arguing against. Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?
“What’s that? There isn’t a draft going on and there hasn’t been one since the seventies? So, does that mean that Mark’s full of shit? Experts say “yes”.”
I’m an honorably discharged veteran. That plus being male must make me your worst nightmare. Happy to be of service – bitch.
“The thing is, 99.9% of feminists who aren’t totally anti-draft feel this way, so I’m not sure what your point is or who you think you’re arguing against. Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?”
Tens of millions of men fought and died for your rights. You figure it out. Don’t be the ignorant feminist that hates men. Reject these bimbos.
Yes because the guy who has huge business ties to China, is going to war with China.
I don’t see your war story of being forcibly taken from your home by government mandate to fight in illegitimate conflicts. Oh wait you never did, because the draft hasn’t been used for an entire generation. How the feminst consensus where the majority DON’T want a draft, or at the most, would like women to be part of the draft. And who made it so that only men would be in the draft? Other white protestant men. So blame the people in the senate and house for doing it instead of people who literally had nothing to do with it.
Or are you going to start on some feminist conspiracy where men are simply meat puppets for feminine wiles and the entire NWO is ran by the Vagina havers?
Who knows, maybe you’ll act a replacement for the last clone I was high school friends with, he parroted literally everything you say and more.
Yeah, that’s about it. I’m not averse to partnership if I ever meet someone who is attractive to me and who I like being around. But I have such a hard time relating to people who feel that romantic relationships are need and I can never understand why people don’t get over crushes or exes really quickly like I do. I can’t even fathom why people stay in relationships that aren’t making them really happy. Intellectually I understand that those are all human things and I don’t judge them for it, but I just don’t get it emotionally. It’s not like I don’t feel things at all but I was seriously more upset by the fact that I just found a dead chipmunk and a dead baby sparrow in the driveway in the span of a few days then I am remembering any break up or unrequited crush I ever had.
@kupo
Well, 15% of San Fran is LGBTetc. So, unless there’s summat in the water, or they’re actually recruiting children (mwahaha), 3.8% is way too low to be real. Then again, interestingly, maybe the culture over there actually inflates those numbers a bit. Best I could figure, we’re looking at maybe 5.3-11.5% in the US. Tho, that’s all conjecture, guesswork, and assmath
As you well know, plenty of folks, for understandable reasons, would put down ‘totes straight’ on the questionnaires when maybe they aren’t that straight. I’m one of em. I think. Maybe? The point is, you deem gender and sexual minorities statistically insignificant at your own peril. They destroy civilizations all the time! Apparently…
Also, I don’t really care what we call it, can we ‘censor’ Marky Mark and the Douchey Bunch already? It’s getting tiresome and my email is taking a beating. It’s a whole process clearing it out, so…
“Or are you going to start on some feminist conspiracy where men are simply meat puppets for feminine wiles and the entire NWO is ran by the Vagina havers?”
That is the way history has unfolded. Your words – not mine.
Nobody here hates men. In fact, and this may shock you, but this blog is actually written by a man. A real, live one!
It may also surprise you to learn that many of the people you’re talking to are men, and even more shocking, everyone here has a genetic history of men in their family. Really! Many of us have dads and brothers and husbands. Some of us even have grandfathers and nephews! And we love them.
So again, you’re arguing against something no one here said, and no one here believes. Hey, has anybody got some marshmallows to toast over the burning strawman? I think I have some chocolate in the cupboard for s’mores…
Awwww. He’s trying so hard to be funny and mean. It’s kind of sweet.
Mark: Feminists are so awful that they support a male-only draft!
Everyone else: Most feminists are against the draft entirely, but among those who aren’t, almost all of them support a draft that impacts everyone equally.
Mark: Oh yeah? Well it sounds like you hate veterans!!
Looking at the last few pages I feel like there’s so much that could be said, but also why bother?
@WWTH
Thank you for the MRA carrols. I particularly liked the bit about how in the future feminism will “literally” cover men in shit xD
So if I like women but don’t want to have sex with them, yet find them aromatically attractive, “as in girl on girl sex”, what does that make me?
Women on the draft: Eww. Sounds icky.
Men on the draft: We had no choice. Millions of us died protecting your worthless shithole. Thanks for the confirmation that our deaths for your rights meant nothing.