You probably haven’t been wondering what profound conclusions the racist pickup artist who calls himself Heartiste has drawn from the horrific tragedy in Orlando. But I’m going to tell you anyway.
The first? That Omar Mateen was a pretty cool dude.
Don’t get me wrong. Heartiste is a Trump-worshipping bigot who wants not only the “jihadis” but their families “targeted for kebab removal,” as he’s charmingly put it.
But he also thinks that Mateen is ALPHA AF. As he wrote in a post today:
Chicks dig jerks, especially cute chicks in the prime of their fertility who could have non-jerks if they desired them.
And Mateen scored at least two such “‘chicks.”
The allure of the alpha male — note I did not say admirable man — over women is unmissable. … History is replete with female accomplices of alpha male killers whose charms could not be resisted.
Well, not quite as replete as all that. A look through Wikipedia’s vast list of the world’s serial killers suggests that it is far more common for male murderers to have male accomplices.
Lest it go under-reported, Omar’s first wife is a true hottie, and he has kids from multiple women.
Lest Heartiste forget it, Omar Mateen’s first wife reportedly fled from him only a few months into their brief marriage, apparently in such a hurry that she left virtually all of her belongings behind. She settled secretly in a city 1500 miles away from her husband so he wouldn’t be able to find her.
ALPHA. And if you don’t like it, don’t blame the messenger. Blame the massengil.
Even by the standards of bad puns, that last bit makes no sense whatsoever; it’s only funny if you think that all references to vaginas and their supposed perpetual stinkiness are inherently hilarious, because girls are icky amirite fellas high five! For a guy who professes to be some kind of smooth Lothario, Heartiste seems to get squicked out by vaginas awfully easily. (Also, it’s spelled MassengiLL. You’d think someone who is himself a massive douchebag would know that.)
Heartiste’s swooning over Mateen’s alleged alphatude is more than a little creepy. But not as creepy as the conclusion he drew in another post he put up today — that the Orlando massacre might be the first step in a “needed cleansing” of our decadent culture.
Men from aggressive, foreign tribes, full of passion and conviction, have begun targeting the culture and lifestyle centers of their post-tribal enemy … They have identified the softest underbelly and are eviscerating it with a vengeance. This means liberals — r-selected rabbits — will bear the brunt of violent Diversity. We are careening into the rabbit holocaust, when everything liberals believe and hold dear will be under mortal threat, and they will die or scatter to the protection of their warrens.
This may be a needed cleansing.
Yep, he really did write that.
After all, it’s rabbit ideology that got us to where we are: besieged by malcontents and barbarians, and making high-minded rationalizations for welcoming ever more of them to lay waste to the rabbit-optimized Elysium fields of grass that is always fresh and green.
This “cleansing,” in Heartiste’s view, could be brutal indeed.
Millions more Americans … could die at the hands of Diversity and the Effete Elite would not surrender their open borders globalist race-mongrelizing agenda.
But there’s a happy ending, of sorts, to Heartiste’s fractured fairy tale — one in which the cavalry, in the form of right-wing authoritarians, rides to the rescue of the remaining Americans.
The solution will be, as always, a forceful taking of power by the K-selected wolves, to save the rabbits from themselves.
And of course Heartiste sees himself as one of the wolves.
I can’t help but notice that Heartiste’s apocalyptic fantasies are strikingly reminiscent of the similarly apocalyptic, similarly delusional fantasies of a fellow by the name of Charles Manson.
I don’t make this comparison lightly. But consider this:
Manson orchestrated the grotesquely brutal Tate/LaBianca murders in hopes of triggering a race war — which Manson and his gang would ride out in a secret hideout in the desert. This was all part of what he famously called “Helter Skelter,” after the Beatles song.
Manson assumed that blacks would win this race war, but would be unable to run what remained of the country. Manson and his pals would then step up and take control themselves — thus transforming Charles Manson, the head of a rag-tag group of hippies who fed themselves out of garbage dumpsters, into the supreme ruler he’d always wanted to be.
Replace Manson’s references to “piggies” with Heartiste’s references to “rabbits” and “wolves,” and the fantasies follow a similarly addled logic. In Manson’s fever dream, the blacks — whom he hated — would carry out the “needed cleansing” of a decadent white civilization; in Heartiste’s fantasies. the hated Muslims will play a similar role.
Like Heartiste, many of those screaming the loudest about the allegedly evil Muslims hiding in our midst don’t really want the carnage to stop. In the short run, it means more converts to their hateful ideologies; in the long run, they dream of their own versions of Helter Skelter. That’s one of the reasons why this election is such a critical one — why Trump and Trumpism need to be soundly defeated.
Oh, can I add to examples of evil bunnies?
@ kat
Ironically you’ve just given me an inspiration!
I think now I understand why MRAs concentrate on their usual talking points and ignore the bigger picture. It’s confirmation bias.
Consider how the Nazis decided to scapegoat Jews. All they had to do was point out that some Jews were wealthy/powerful. People filtered out the fact that most Jews weren’t or that there were plenty of non-Jews who were wealthy/powerful (the majority of wealthy/powerful people in fact)
So all the MRAs need to do is highlight a few areas where women seem to have an advantage or individual women who’ve managed to do ok, then confirmation bias kicks in.
If you’re a guy stuck in a dead end job the wage gap means nothing to you, but you can easily be made to focus on the fact that there’s a female CEO earning more in a week than you’ll earn in a year. That fact that most CEOs are men (in the same way most bank owners were Gentiles) doesn’t register. Neither does the fact that most women aren’t CEOs either. You just see the ones who are.
In contrast to the evil bunnies; here’s a very soppy wolf…
https://youtu.be/5OWOQF3dWi0
(I love this vid even though it makes me sniffle a bit because my doggie made exactly those noises)
First Christina Grimmie was killed. Then the largest mass murder in US history occurred. Now this.
Poor Orlando! What the heck is going on there?!
Alligator drags two-year-old boy into lagoon at Disney World resort in Florida
Search under way at Grand Floridian Hotel in Orlando after father battled with animal to try and rescue his son
http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/15/alligator-two-year-old-child-disney-world-hotel-florida
@Alan
I don’t think I was the source of your inspiration . . . but you do make an excellent point.
Carolyn:
I think the argument started when some altright crank decided leftists are “r-selected” because they support family welfare. Why, that’s basically the same as not investing in your own offspring. This theory doesn’t seem to relate much to how many children liberals vs. conservatives actually have.
Altrighters might also think leftist family policies are not mostly supported by whites but rather blacks and whatever other Democratic-voting minorities you have. The “white genocide” thing is also not only about reproductive rates but largely about racial mixing and one drop rule.
Now, it seems the r/K thing has become an altright meme, and as such, inreasingly used by people with not the faintest idea of its original meaning. The rabbit example is obviously lifted from some biology textbook. Heartiste is not using it to represent high reproductive potential but rather because rabbits can stereotyped as stupid, peaceful and easy prey to “wolves”. It’s a political fable with a hateful, extremely muddled meaning.
The bunny with the beads around its ears!
That beautiful wolf (with the scary-looking teeth)!
But all in all, awww.
@ kat
Yeah, but that’s the best way of differentiating wolves from grandmas.
I apologize in advance for the ellipses. I need them to wade through the different levels of bullshit.
Setting aside the fact that r/K selection theory is largely outmoded…and that it doesn’t apply to populations, much less individuals…and that it’s not a synonym for prey/predator (elephants, antelopes, and giraffes are also K-strategists) so shut up about goddamn wolves already you are not a wolf…and the offensive implication that parents with lots of kids don’t care about them and aren’t investing in them because they’re a dime a dozen…there is no such thing as a left wing/right wing reproduction strategy. It’s a myth that people on welfare have huge families. But hey, you know who has 22 kids? The Duggars. Large families tend to be found among Mormons, Catholics, Quiverfulls, and evangelical Protestants, for exactly the same reasons Heartiste cites here. It’s baked into the doctrine: outbreed the competition, create an army of Christian soldiers, spread the gospel. To reinforce that imperative, contraceptives, homosexuality, sex ed, and women working outside the home are discouraged.
So why is rabbit strategy suddenly such a huge fail when left wingers do it?
If Heartiste is really worried about the drop in white birth rates, he should be looking at economic factors and the cost of raising a kid to maturity in Western countries (hint: astronomical times jaw-dropping). I personally know a few couples who called it a day after one kid, because they simply couldn’t afford any more. Wages are shrinking, and inequality is growing. Fewer and fewer people have access to what they need to survive. That isn’t going to be solved by a race war.
Soooo…what has more sex, a wolf or a rabbit? Just saying even by his gross standards of how much “action” he gets determining how “alpha” he is, the wolf is a bad example. Not only that, but wolves are matriarchal with the alpha female leading the pack. Sooo again, if he’s looking for a good example he sort of missed the mark id hens a misogynist trying to save humanity from the foibles of “them there silly broads.”
“After all, it’s rabbit ideology that got us to where we are: besieged by malcontents and barbarians, and making high-minded rationalizations for welcoming ever more of them to lay waste to the rabbit-optimized Elysium fields of grass that is always fresh and green.”
That’s definitely one of the more original readings of Zootopia I’ve seen.
This conversation is reminding me of that thread about how alpha wolves are a myth. It gets necro’d all the time by dudes who think they know better than the actual scientists on this matter.
Anyway, the best way to get someone to do something is positive reinforcement. You want middle class white people to have more kids? Universalize child care subsidies. Make college free. In the US, have mandatory paid maternal and paternal leave. Make breeding attractive. As Buttercup said, trying to start a race war is not an effective strategy for that. Neither is trying to shame white women in interracial relationships. Neither is cutting off food stamps to poor families.
Can someone tell me how to distinguish the allegedly good “wolves” from the bad “men from aggressive, foreign tribes, full of passion and conviction”? Because, as far as I can see, the only difference is the word “foreign”.
For all of the alt-right’s yammering about race solidarity, they seem curiously drawn to the fascism and racism of other cultures, and denigrate their own culture.
I observed the body language of his first wife when interviewed by reporters. She spoke urgently and looked alarmed. The man who stood by her side looked down and shook his head several times as she talked. If I were looking for confirmation of my “alphaness,” that would not be it. In fact, it would be a wake-up call: I’m obviously doing something very, very wrong.
Not for Heartiste though. He and his fellow manospherians can twist any words and any actions into any meaning. So much for their much-vaunted logic and rationality. It’s going to be hard on them when their dreamy fantasies of power and sexytimes bump into the very real realness of reality, including the law.
Snort.
How is it that whenever I take a few days break from the internet to focus on mindlessly working myself to sleep (or just playing video games in peace), something horrible happens ? Guess it’s an obvious answer, something horrible happens every few days… Well, heart goes out to everyone, hope you’re all fine…
As for Heartiste and the assorted assholes, meh, as always they live in their own not-so-fantastic little world, heads up their own asses and as far away as possible from anything that reminds them even remotely of reality. There’s about 42 different varieties of bullshit in those quotes only, it’s hard to know where to even begin with. At least there’s the constants though : their war fantasies backed with pseudoscience. Can’t teach an old moron new tricks.
@ sinkable john
I’ll take “rejected Heinz marketing slogans” for $200
@Alan
Those teeth though! Arrgsnarflegggrrrarrrrrrr (that’s me getting distracted by my dog who is doing a weird slide around on her back around the floor…is she itchy? Is she pretending to be an otter? I don’t know!)
Awkward internet hugs (if you want them), I know it sucks when we lose a fuzzy-faced companion.
Excellent summary. In fact, “Feeling at a loss? Let us explain why, and tell you what to do about it” is pretty much the basis for every religion, cult, business scheme, total scam, etc.
We already had one. Elliot Rodger. It’s when I first started reading this site.
@Alan
They do say marketing is the only way for a writer to make a living. Maybe I should jump through that hoop.
@pi male:
http://media3.giphy.com/media/l0CRC6GzNOjuof5N6/200w.gif
@Alan:
There has already been an MRA shooter, surely: Elliot Rodger?
@ msexception
Best onomatopoeia ever. And thank you.
@ EJ
Oh, if I said “QED” would I be using it correctly?
@ sinkable john
And drafting ransom demands, don’t rule that out.
@Film Runner
“I came here to make the world a better place, but… I think I broke it.”
JUDY HOPPS, DESTROYER OF WORLDS
Yessssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss. THIS is the kind of stuff that turns me all reactionary and makes me shout: “Bring backt the draft, that’ll teach those sadzers.”
ETA: Also, this is why at its core I am NOT shocked or apalled by hooliganism, and think it serves an important purpose.
@ Kat
I will forever be your #1 fangirl here on WHTM, You’ve turned me into one of those bobbing-head dogs found in the backs of cars, with my constant nodding in agreement to most things you say 😉
Yesssssssssss, thissssssssss
@ florkje
Football hooliganism is the perfect example to illustrate that most male-male violence is ritualistic and indeed consensual.
They’re quite literally ‘pitched battles’ in the proper sense of the term.
In the UK the fights were actually planned through carful liaison and the irony is that, away from the matches, many of the opposing participants were quite good friends (having so much in common, i.e. a love of football violence). The England fans currently cooperating together to fight the Russian fans will be back to kicking each other’s heads in after the championship.