Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the MGTOWs are MGTOWing it up like nobody’s business, trying to get to the bottom of what is perhaps the essential question of our age: When will mom bring down the pizza rolls?
Sorry, I mean: “Will feminism ruin society?”
The answers range from “it already has” to “IT ALREADY HAS” to “women … have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.”
There are so many gems that it’s hard to know where to start, so let’s start with the OP, Broken_Snowglobe, who plaintively asks: “Why do feminist think that they are oppressed?”
How is feminist formed / how girl think oppressed?
“Females have every right that a man has if not more,” Broken_Snowglobe continues, quickly revealing that he is a Man Going His Own Way Punctuation-Wise — a MGHOWPW. Try reading this next, er, sentence in one breath:
Females over the years have gotten greedy because let me say this men let females have rights keyword (LET) what feminism actually promotes is a movement that is pushing for female patriarchy when in reality if this goal is accomplished society with crumble at our feet it will cease to exist down to its very root.
I got as far as “crumble.”
Females these days are entitled they talk about men such as brad pit saying and I quote “We never have to worry about rape from men like brad pit” the female mind operates on parasitical terms the rich man will be considered superior to common man while on the hand the common is inferior.
Well, it’s good he’s got an exact quote here, which I have enshrined in the demotivational poster above.
The picture I used for it was originally a gif,and I feel I should post it here now just so all the straight guys reading this realize just what it is that we are all competing with.
But females don’t extend this courtesy to those of us who are not named Brad Pit. Or those of us not named Brad Pitt, either, I suspect.
Females label all common man as “rapist” I’m sure not a rapist odds are you aren’t either.
Females are pushing for rights when they have more rights they have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs.
It is so unfair that females have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs when females DON’T have an organization dedicated to male rights and needs, and males are expressly forbidden by law from forming an organization dedicated to male rights and needs and, hold on, I’m being told that men are not actually forbidden by law from starting their own organizations so wait a second Broken_Snowglobe what exactly are you complaining about here, that males are too lazy and incompetent to start their own organizations and also I’m pretty sure that there are male organizations devoted to male rights and needs but that they’re generally tiny and embarrassing because you know MEN AS A CLASS ARE NOT OPPRESSED.
Plus they have all marriage rights house half of you’re things etc….females are the devil and I encourage you to avoid them as much as possible. P.S Hide you’re monies friends or females will take that as well.
Just don’t hide your monies in a dirty sock because then mom, sorry I mean some other female that you’re banging, will find it when she’s doing your laundry!
Now it is certainly possible that Broken_Snowglobe, who has been a Redditor for all of one day, is actually a troll.
But this possibility has evidently not occurred to any of the regulars in r/MGTOW, or at least not to any of those who have replied to Mr. Snowglobe’s comments. Mostly because they agree with him.
Teflon0819, who has been a Redditor for far longer than a day, offers a serious and sincere response to Mr. Snowglobe’s possibly not so sincere wail of male anguish that helps us to understand other key issues with regard to feminists and civilization. Like, for example, the ways in which the “female imperative” is similar to a certain genre of Japanese porn.
Feminism won’t ruin society, but the feminine imperative will. Feminism is just one of its wriggly little tentacles.
When I mentioned to my octopus friend that she and her fellow octopuses were being used to make a ridiculous misogynistic argument in r/MGTOW, she made pretty clear she wanted no part of it.
Happily for her, Teflon0819 quickly dropped this metaphor for a new one, writing in the very next sentence that
Feminism will continue to be exposed for the toxic cesspool of bullshit that it is, but society will ultimately only shun the superficial label known as “feminism”, treating the symptom instead of the disease.
And then — sorry, octopuses! — he returned to his earlier metaphor:
The feminine imperative will simply shed the corrupted tentacle and grow a new one with a new label that people will rally behind.
Sooner or later civilization as we know it will fall, and men will be left to pick up the pieces and build a new civilization. Which in turn, once well-established will be hijacked by the feminine imperative once again and be led to ruin.
Huh. Do you have any historical examples in which a civilization fell because of an excess of “female imperative?”
I think the male instinct to protect, provide and compete for women – which is a perfectly natural biological process – inevitably breeds a destructive entitlement in women that leads to the downfall of civilizations in a never ending cycle.
Oh, it’s a never-ending cycle, then? If that’s true, there should be a whole bunch of examples. Alas, Teflon0819 offers none.
Five_Decades, presumably drawing on his five decades of experience, doesn’t think feminism will destroy civilization as such. After all, he notes, we’ve “survived famines, plagues, wars, government collapses.”
But he does think that a lot of women will end up really depressed once they realize how much they suck.
I predict a massive rise in misandry and unhappy women because women who themselves do not have much to offer are constantly being told they deserve to have the best of everything (best men, best relationships, best kids, best careers, best incomes, etc) when back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of women have the skills and luck to deserve those things. And when they get disappointed one too many times, I’m sure they will (as a class) blame men for it. But it won’t end society.
Zegy kind of agrees:
I don’t think we are at the point of total collapse yet but we are getting to the point were feminism/SWJ are trying to censor our speech using shamming tactics …
How is men shammed / how boy get censor
… using shamming tactics like micro aggressions, mansplaing, hell even our physical actions such as manspreading, will this ruin or society this little things I doubt it; because Great men will continue to invent new things and shape this world regardless but the average male is only get more and more controlled
Men will survive the tyranny of getting dirty looks, once in a very long while, when they take up more than one seat on the subway!
But it is RandolphTheWarlock who offers the only real solution that will enable us to rebuild our already collapsed civilization. It involves harnesses.
We’ll get to that in a moment. First, Randolph explains just how it was that the wily female has brought our civilization down. Women start off “absolutely batshit crazy,” he explains, but the West has made them even worse with all of its female-coddling and whatnot:
Put [women] in an environment like the West where they’re coddled and worshipped and never have to worry about f*cking up because there’s always someone there to bail them out, and they become … not just crazy, not just bad women, but bad human beings.
It has been reported that all women need to do to get bailed out is to sit down in the street and cry.
I’d contend that they’ve already ruined our society. I’m only 34, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a prosperous Mayberry with only a few serious urban blights, to a degenerated patchwork of ghetto sh*tholes spanning the entire nation, with a subsequent decline in the quality and character of both genders.
As someone who is, well, a teensy bit older than 34, I would like to ask: Did you grow up in the Truman Show or something?
Never mind, because it’s HARNESS TIME!
Sorry about that. Anyway, now is the time when Randolph talks about the harnesses:
As it turns out, oppressing women is absolutely vital to creating and maintaining a civilized human society. They have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.
MGTOW dudes, just go start your own damn civilization on an island somewhere already. To help expedite this process, I’ve gone ahead and picked out several possible islands for you. Well, technically speaking, I picked them out for Roosh V, but he has yet to claim any of them. So now’s your chance!
You’re welcome!
H/T — r/TheBluePill
If anyone did say that about Pitt, could it be that they’re referring to the type of person he is and not how attractive he is? I have no idea what the guy is like in person, but the only type of guy I worry about is the asshole who only thinks about himself.
*Sam Jackson voice* How the Other Half Lives muthafucka, did you read it!?
To boldly go where no girl has gone before?
@David
Never apologize for Hammer Time
okay, what’s with using “females” and “men”? rather than “females” and “males” or “women” and “men”?
is it a dehumanizing thing?
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Why would women — er– females destroy civilization? They invented the damn thing by developing agriculture. They started cultivating grain to make beer.
Hey Redditors, you heard it from one of your own about the male “instinct to . . . compete for women.”
It’s an instinct — it must be because your fellow Redditor said it — so it cannot be reasoned with or fought with. It must be followed.
So why don’t you all go ahead and channel that instinct into being as good-looking as Brad Pitt? Also, nowadays he’s a mature 52-year-old with a wife and a bunch of kids. He was very, very supportive when his wife had a double mastectomy (she had both her breasts cut off ’cause medical condition). He’s also very respectful of his wife. So go ahead and do all that stuff too. You don’t need to be as old as him or have a wife or kids, but be good-looking, supportive, and respectful.
Stop whining about Brad Pitt. Instead, go out and be the best Brad Pitt you can! It’s instinct, man.
Also, guys, learn to spell. Women swoon when a guy knows how to spell. Would I steer you wrong?!
@brian
Yes, dehumanization is their goal.
Yes.
@Sinkable John
I was all set to say that you can’t parody this stuff. Then I read about the sexbot uprising.
You are a genius.
@Brian
Of course it is.
How is babble formed? OMG, soooooo much stoooooopid. My brain liquefied and is leaking out my butthole as I type.
If only these guys’ ungrammatical style were the sole thing wrong with what they write. Is English even their first language? If so, they really DO live in a dystopia of degeneracy, and they themselves are the ghetto.
No sense being nostalgic for Mayberry, boys, that’s just an old TV show in constant reruns on some dedicated “nostalgia” channel somewhere. You’re the problem with modern society.
And if you really ARE going your own way, you’d better do it quickly and quietly, because you’re dragging the world down the toilet with you.
the funny thing is most first world countries have womens rights while third world countries don’t. Do they genuinely believe our society today is worse than 100 years ago.
Maybe it’s because I’m not American, but I don’t get what he means when he said it used to be a “Mayberry”?
MRA STEMLogik dictates that the more rights women have, the less men have. It’s bullshit, but these seem to be guys that measure their egos by their “strength” and their “strength” by how much advantage they have over other people. To them, levelling the playing field in any way is thus disastrous and even oppressive.
Mayberry refers to the setting of the old Andy Griffith Show from the 1960s, an idyllic small town in the Southeast US, likely somewhere on the border between the foothills and the Blue Ridge Mountains. Like most TV shows from that time, it was entirely populated by white people.
Oh wow. Let’s see, if we fix up the “Five_Decades” comment:
“I predict a massive rise in misogyny and unhappy men because men who themselves do not have much to offer are constantly being told they deserve to have the best of everything (best women, best relationships, best kids, best careers, best incomes, etc) when back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of men have the skills and luck to deserve those things. And when they get disappointed one too many times, I’m sure they will (as a class) blame women for it. But it won’t end society.”
We have the origin of the manosphere. Neat!
What sunnysombrera said. I don’t get the Mayberry thing either. (I really like the word though but somehow I feel the poetry is gonna wear out real fast once I know what they refer to)
@Kat
I’m not sure the idea’s mine to begin with. Either Scildfreja or me, I don’t remember ._.
But we toyed a bit with the idea in the comments of another article from a few days ago. Something about Red Pillers going crazy over the idea of sexbots marketed toward women, and also maybe solving the energy crisis of low-battery-phone-screenshots with male and female sexbots plugged in to each other.
Or something.
But now I really wanna do it. Would Chuck Tingle want to help ?
As the others have said, yes, yes it is.
They see us feeeemales as naught more than Breeding Stock, Brood Herders, Sammich Makers, Home Keepers, and Sex Dispensaries.
In other words: We are only what we can do for them. Therefore, we are naught but useful items to be collected and owned, rather than human beings with our own free will.
I was under the impression that Mayberry was in North Carolina, and when folks talked about going to the big city, they meant Raleigh.
But I actually don’t remember where I got that idea. Did I ever watch the show? Don’t remember that either.
Didn’t we have a troll a year or two ago who refused to use proper spelling and grammar because he was trying to neg us? Or maybe he refused to use proper spelling and grammar for fear it would turn us on too much. I forget which. Either way, it was hilarious. SFHC has perfect troll memory, perhaps she will come by and enlighten us.
Sadly, I think he was a glossary troll and when the site moved, the comments in the glossary disappeared. It’s a shame, because some of the most hilarious trolls were there.
Any chance of bringing those back, David?
http://i.imgur.com/mIOwFg0.gif
Or are they gone forever?
See, if that alleged “male instinct” were really a “perfectly natural biological process,” and if it inevitably “[bred]…destructive entitlement in women…”
…Then that “destructive entitlement” would be a “perfectly natural biological process” too, wouldn’t it?
Hey, you Experts in Evolutionary Psychology–just relax and enjoy the ride! After all, it’s perfectly natural. And inevitable!
Seriously, so much of their subtext boils down to: our [notions of men’s] behavior is natural, therefore you can’t judge us! Women’s behavior, OTOH, is natural–and eeevil.
Misogyny hasn’t changed since medieval times–they just use pseudoscience instead of religion to justify it now.
Oh, that superior male STEMlogic!
Sorry to counter your assfax with reality, Randolph, but US crime rates have quite definitely and sharply declined in the last 20+ years:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_in_the_United_States
@ramen
Yes, it was set in NC. Griffith’s home town was Mt. Airy and that is the likely spot for Mayberry, or perhaps the nearby town of Dobson. The closest big city was the fictional Mt. Pilot though Raleigh was sometimes mentioned and other actual places as well.
@WWTH
I think it was someone claiming that men only used proper grammar and spelling if they were beta cucks trying to impress feeemales?
(Notice that in reality, current US crime rates are “approximately the same as those in the 1960s.” That was when The Andy Griffith Show, set in fictional Mayberry, aired.)