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MGTOW: Women “have to be harnessed like mules” to prevent the collapse of civilization

Famous actor name of Brad Pit
Famous actor name of Brad Pit

Over on the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, the MGTOWs are MGTOWing it up like nobody’s business, trying to get to the bottom of what is perhaps the essential question of our age: When will mom bring down the pizza rolls?

Sorry, I mean: “Will feminism ruin society?

The answers range from “it already has” to “IT ALREADY HAS” to “women … have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.”

There are so many gems that it’s hard to know where to start, so let’s start with the OP, Broken_Snowglobe, who plaintively asks: “Why do feminist think that they are oppressed?”

How is feminist formed / how girl think oppressed?

“Females have every right that a man has if not more,” Broken_Snowglobe continues, quickly revealing that he is a Man Going His Own Way Punctuation-Wise — a MGHOWPW.  Try reading this next, er, sentence in one breath:

Females over the years have gotten greedy because let me say this men let females have rights keyword (LET) what feminism actually promotes is a movement that is pushing for female patriarchy when in reality if this goal is accomplished society with crumble at our feet it will cease to exist down to its very root.

I got as far as “crumble.”

Females these days are entitled they talk about men such as brad pit saying and I quote “We never have to worry about rape from men like brad pit” the female mind operates on parasitical terms the rich man will be considered superior to common man while on the hand the common is inferior.

Well, it’s good he’s got an exact quote here, which I have enshrined in the demotivational poster above.

The picture I used for it was originally a gif,and I feel I should post it here now just so all the straight guys reading this realize just what it is that we are all competing with.

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Famous actor name of Brad Pit in movie name of Burn After Readin

But females don’t extend this courtesy to those of us who are not named Brad Pit. Or those of us not named Brad Pitt, either, I suspect.

Females label all common man as “rapist” I’m sure not a rapist odds are you aren’t either.

Females are pushing for rights when they have more rights they have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs.

It is so unfair that females have an organization dedicated to female rights and needs when females DON’T have an organization dedicated to male rights and needs, and males are expressly forbidden by law from forming an organization dedicated to male rights and needs and, hold on, I’m being told that men are not actually forbidden by law from starting their own organizations so wait a second Broken_Snowglobe what exactly are you complaining about here, that males are too lazy and incompetent to start their own organizations and also I’m pretty sure that there are male organizations devoted to male rights and needs but that they’re generally tiny and embarrassing because you know MEN AS A CLASS ARE NOT OPPRESSED.

Plus they have all marriage rights house half of you’re things etc….females are the devil and I encourage you to avoid them as much as possible. P.S Hide you’re monies friends or females will take that as well.

Just don’t hide your monies in a dirty sock because then mom, sorry I mean some other female that you’re banging, will find it when she’s doing your laundry!

Now it is certainly possible that Broken_Snowglobe, who has been a Redditor for all of one day, is actually a troll.

But this possibility has evidently not occurred to any of the regulars in r/MGTOW, or at least not to any of those who have replied to Mr. Snowglobe’s comments. Mostly because they agree with him.

Teflon0819, who has been a Redditor for far longer than a day, offers a serious and sincere response to Mr. Snowglobe’s possibly not so sincere wail of male anguish that helps us to understand other key issues with regard to feminists and civilization. Like, for example, the ways in which the “female imperative” is similar to a certain genre of Japanese porn.

Feminism won’t ruin society, but the feminine imperative will. Feminism is just one of its wriggly little tentacles.

When I mentioned to my octopus friend that she and her fellow octopuses were being used to make a ridiculous misogynistic argument in r/MGTOW, she made pretty clear she wanted no part of it.

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Happily for her, Teflon0819 quickly dropped this metaphor for a new one, writing in the very next sentence that

Feminism will continue to be exposed for the toxic cesspool of bullshit that it is, but society will ultimately only shun the superficial label known as “feminism”, treating the symptom instead of the disease.

And then — sorry, octopuses! — he returned to his earlier metaphor:

The feminine imperative will simply shed the corrupted tentacle and grow a new one with a new label that people will rally behind.

Sooner or later civilization as we know it will fall, and men will be left to pick up the pieces and build a new civilization. Which in turn, once well-established will be hijacked by the feminine imperative once again and be led to ruin.

Huh. Do you have any historical examples in which a civilization fell because of an excess of “female imperative?”

I think the male instinct to protect, provide and compete for women – which is a perfectly natural biological process – inevitably breeds a destructive entitlement in women that leads to the downfall of civilizations in a never ending cycle.

Oh, it’s a never-ending cycle, then? If that’s true, there should be a whole bunch of examples. Alas, Teflon0819 offers none.

Five_Decades, presumably drawing on his five decades of experience, doesn’t think feminism will destroy civilization as such. After all, he notes, we’ve “survived famines, plagues, wars, government collapses.”

But he does think that a lot of women will end up really depressed once they realize how much they suck.

I predict a massive rise in misandry and unhappy women because women who themselves do not have much to offer are constantly being told they deserve to have the best of everything (best men, best relationships, best kids, best careers, best incomes, etc) when back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of women have the skills and luck to deserve those things. And when they get disappointed one too many times, I’m sure they will (as a class) blame men for it. But it won’t end society.

Zegy kind of agrees:

I don’t think we are at the point of total collapse yet but we are getting to the point were feminism/SWJ are trying to censor our speech using shamming tactics …

How is men shammed / how boy get censor

… using shamming tactics like micro aggressions, mansplaing, hell even our physical actions such as manspreading, will this ruin or society this little things I doubt it; because Great men will continue to invent new things and shape this world regardless but the average male is only get more and more controlled

Men will survive the tyranny of getting dirty looks, once in a very long while, when they take up more than one seat on the subway!

But it is RandolphTheWarlock who offers the only real solution that will enable us to rebuild our already collapsed civilization. It involves harnesses.

We’ll get to that in a moment. First, Randolph explains just how it was that the wily female has brought our civilization down. Women start off “absolutely batshit crazy,” he explains, but the West has made them even worse with all of its female-coddling and whatnot:

Put [women] in an environment like the West where they’re coddled and worshipped and never have to worry about f*cking up because there’s always someone there to bail them out, and they become … not just crazy, not just bad women, but bad human beings.

It has been reported that all women need to do to get bailed out is to sit down in the street and cry.

I’d contend that they’ve already ruined our society. I’m only 34, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a prosperous Mayberry with only a few serious urban blights, to a degenerated patchwork of ghetto sh*tholes spanning the entire nation, with a subsequent decline in the quality and character of both genders.

As someone who is, well, a teensy bit older than 34, I would like to ask: Did you grow up in the Truman Show or something?

Never mind, because it’s HARNESS TIME!

Can't touch this
Can’t touch this

Sorry about that. Anyway, now is the time when Randolph talks about the harnesses:

As it turns out, oppressing women is absolutely vital to creating and maintaining a civilized human society. They have to be harnessed like mules and forced to live out their lives in a way that doesn’t totally f*ck everything up and revert us back ten thousand years, otherwise we’re f*cked.

MGTOW dudes, just go start your own damn civilization on an island somewhere already. To help expedite this process, I’ve gone ahead and picked out several possible islands for you. Well, technically speaking, I picked them out for Roosh V, but he has yet to claim any of them. So now’s your chance!

You’re welcome!

H/T — r/TheBluePill

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Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@PI

And I do believe someone else mentioned that these assholes would try to go all Immortan Joe and force women into their slave harem and promptly get shot for their troubles, because they believe they’re lone wolf ALPHUA MAILS who don’t play by your rules, feminists!

And they’d be considered a goddamn hazard to people who actually want to survive because they’re selfish assholes who want to be Post-Apocalypse Philosopher Kings, rather than realize they’re not the center of everyone’s universe.

I think the chances of them fulfilling any one of their boasts are vanishingly small.

I think they’d be very, very quiet and hope other people would allow them to join a survivors’ group. Then they’d fuck everything up because they have no skills, and they’d offend people when they did start talking, and there would be lots of eye rolls and lots of talkings-to and people would hope to hell those guys would grow up really, really soon.

TL;dr They’re selfish but they’re not risk-takers.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

I’d contend that they’ve already ruined our society. I’m only 34, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a prosperous Mayberry with only a few serious urban blights, to a degenerated patchwork of ghetto sh*tholes spanning the entire nation, with a subsequent decline in the quality and character of both genders.

The Andy Griffith Show and its spinoff without its star, Mayberry RFD, aired from 1960 to 1971, a tempestuous time filled with civil rights marches, antiwar demonstrations, and people of color and women demanding equal treatment and freedom.

The Wikipedia page for The Andy Griffith Show says this:

Regarding the time-period of the show, Griffith said in a Today Show interview: “Well, though we never said it, and though it was shot in the 1960s, it had a feeling of the 1930s. It was, when we were doing it, of a time gone by.”

Oh, are we actually talking about the 1930s, when the corporadoes broke the economy? Breadlines, lynchings, the Dust Bowl, farmers going broke, unemployment at 25 percent? Luckily, people fought back, pressuring and inspiring Congress and President Roosevelt to institute the New Deal: the 8-hour work day, the weekend, collective bargaining, food stamps, Social Security, the Civilian Conservation Corps, the minimum wage, unemployment benefits, welfare, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

Listen, stranger on the Internet who is 34 years old, I’m older than you and you are a liar.

Sinkable John
Sinkable John
4 years ago

@Axecalibur

That’s about how I felt when I saw the buggers, and that was long before I heard one. Although… Been wondering if I’d really heard it. I mean, the sound was so faint it could’ve been something I imagined. But then that wouldn’t explain how it prompted me to look down at the exact spot where the thing was, at the exact moment it was passing by. Fear-of-spiders-sense tingling ? That’s a LAME super power.

@Skiriki

It’s none of those either. I have a pic of the baby one (’cause the firemen’s sense of humor apparently included putting a picture of it on their yearly calendar) but no way to scan it, sadly :/
I’ll still take the cute-but-possibly-deadly snakes over the harmless-yet-absolutely-fucking-terrifying-oh-my-god-make-it-die-make-it-die spiders.

@Kat

Listen, stranger on the Internet who is 34 years old, I’m older than you and you are a liar.

To be fair, I’m younger and don’t live on the same continent, let alone in the same country. Yet I seem to have a stronger grasp of the history of that idiot’s own country than he does. Whereas I never studied it in the first place.
So… A liar, or just plain and possibly irremediably stupid ?

Dalillama
4 years ago

@Carayak

How interesting! I’m only 29, but in just the last twenty years I’ve seen the US transition from a state of eternal apocalyptic nuclear brinksmanship to a progressive patchwork of increased social justice spreading mostly outward from major population centers, with a recent increase in the eschatological drive of far-right Yahwists.

On the other hand, during the past 20 years wages have stagnated while inflation has gone up, and housing costs have increased to a criminal degree.

@Kat

Then they’d fuck everything up because they have no skills, and they’d offend people when they did start talking, and there would be lots of eye rolls and lots of talkings-to and people would hope to hell those guys would grow up really, really soon. kick them the hell back out of the settlement to starve in the wilderness.

FTFY. Post-apocalyptic communities don’t have the luxury of putting up with people who deliberately break the system/refuse to do their share.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

We had a couple of rosy boas, some iguanas, an anole…my mom’s Plymouth Duster was traded in so that she could have a car with working air conditioning and no escapee dead mouse. One lizard was fed meal-worms and apparently they ate their way out from inside the poor thing…but the box turtle is likely still alive all these years later – I was 8 when we got it and 20-something when the cable company was putting in the high speed internet and the turtle was given to a reptile sanctuary where it wouldn’t have to worry about being disturbed by digging or cable lines.

I know that at any given time there are spiders in everyone’s house, the deal I have with the ones in my house is that as long as they stay out of my direct line of sight and off of *me* they’re a-ok. If I see them, the penalty is death. It’s a mostly effective arrangement. A bee sting causes a severe allergic reaction for me, last time I had to go to the ER. So I stay away from them and hope they stay away from me.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Sinkable John

So… A liar, or just plain and possibly irremediably stupid ?

I’m going to vote for liar based on the belief that no one who can post a comment could be that stupid.

@Dalillama

Post-apocalyptic communities don’t have the luxury of putting up with people who deliberately break the system/refuse to do their share.

You might be right. But I based my scenario partly on the Anne Frank diary. She, her family, and friends — a total of eight people — hid from the Nazis for two years in cramped quarters. Some of these people were children and there were squabbles, but nobody got thrown out.

And I don’t believe that the boastful commenters would deliberately break the system. I don’t think that they’re anywhere near the charismatic Hell’s Angels CEOs ladykillers they make themselves out to be. But I think there’s a strong chance they wouldn’t know how to get along with others and be incompetent at lots of stuff.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

Sinkable John:
Darn, now I’m really left wondering what the heck is the snek they captured, then. Can you take a cellphone pic of the calendar photo and upload it to Imgur (you don’t need an account for that) and link here?

Sinkable John
Sinkable John
4 years ago

Wish I could but these days I can’t even connect my phone to either the internet or my computer. It’s May, the most beautiful month in the whole year, and also the one when technology least agrees with me.

@Kat

I’m going to vote for liar based on the belief that no one who can post a comment could be that stupid.

But… isn’t lying about something like that incredibly stupid in the first place ?
But yeah, I see your point, and it makes a lot of sense.

Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
4 years ago

At the risk of necro’ing…

Paradoxy – THERE’S MULES IN MLP???? Great, another thing I don’t have the time for! Watching TV in the daytime would seriously eat into my Mammoth-ing time. *grumble*

Sinkable John

Fear-of-spiders-sense tingling ? That’s a LAME super power.

As someone with a huge sensitivity to spider venom, I think that’s a grand superpower! My superpower is finding great parking without much effort; wanna trade?

Boogerghost
Boogerghost
4 years ago

Friends, females, countrymen, lend me your ears!

“…back in reality only a tiny, tiny minority of women have the skills and luck to deserve those things.”

Soo… Teflon is admitting that they think what you “deserve,” not just what you actually get, depends on how lucky you are? Meaningful word use fail is meaningful.

Edit: Ah, @dust bunny et al. were on that already, sorry. 🙂

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

Uggghhh…these people! I wish I knew what they looked like so I could make a Book of Manospherians (in the spirit of How To Train Your Dragon).
I’d replace “kill” with “taze” though (and add creepy)

Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
Axecalibur: Middle Name Danger
4 years ago

@Violet
Except the dragons eventually turn out to be misunderstood aminals, so…

(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
(((VioletBeauregarde))): Social Justice Necromancer
4 years ago

@Axe: Well shit…there goes my idea. Can’t say I didn’t try 😛