Another HUGE VICTORY for Men’s Rights! Some guy on the internet told a woman that the term “mansplaining” is mean to men! And then he used the “c-word” a couple of times!
At first glance, this might not be seen as the HUGE VICTORY that it truly is, men’s rights-wise, but get this! The guy in question is the guy who made Minecraft! A VIDEO GAME that LOTS OF PEOPLE LIKE. Which makes his opinion on this subject really really super important, for some reason.
Naturally, the fellas who hang out in the Men’s Rights subreddit understand what a TRIUMPH this is for men’s rights. There are currently three posts on this WORLD HISTORIC EVENT in the subreddit’s top ten.
Over in KotakuInAction,the main GamerGate hangout on Reddit, the regulars are if anything even more AWAKE to this monumental achievement for all mankind. They’ve got FOUR posts on it in their top ten.
So let’s check out the Minecraft dude’s carefully reasoned argument, which he Tweeted out yesterday.
You can tell he’s totally right about this, and also quite BRAVE, because he got 3700 likes and retweets for it.
Persson went on to explain his PERFECT MANLOGIC in more detail.
Ha ha! Because this explainy thing that men do to women constantly but that women do to men pretty rarely is equivalent to calling car crashes “womendriving” because, ha ha, women can’t drive and are responsible for 90% of all car crashes no wait, that’s not even remotely true; the demographic group that is responsible for far more than their share of accidents is teenagers.
When one Twitterer suggested it might perhaps behoove him to listen to women on this issue, Persson quickly saw through this MISANDRIST OPPRESSION of men who want to talk pretty much constantly.
Actually, Mr. Persson, as I have learned from years of doing this blog, there is no possible way to shut up men who want to inform you at great length of their opinions about feminism and what women are doing wrong. You can ban them from your comments, sure, but some of them will keep trying to post comments for months if not years afterwards.
And certainly Mr. Persson felt no need to shut up. Instead, he kicked his MANLOGICAL STEM LOGIC up a notch by unleashing the ultimate tool in the MANLOGICAL STEM LOGICKING toolkit. I refer, of course, to the c-word.
Here he applied the MANLOGIC STEM LOGICKING directly:
But don’t worry, gals! He’s totally got your back! He’s an EQUALITYIST who’s all for equality between the genders and not for sexism at all!
Huh. Apparently being into “equal rights and against sexism” requires one to go around calling women the c-word, which is TOTALLY NOT SEXIST because sometimes men get called “dick” which is TOTALLY the equivalent of the c-word., I mean it’s not like the c-word is widely considered the worst possible insult in the English language or anything.
Luckily, we have a KotakiInAction commenter called DaedLizrad to Gatersplain to us why it’s totally ok to refer to women with that special word.
Why is calling a man dick acceptable but dropping the c-bomb(seriously your too cowardly to use the word outside a quote?) is so reprehensible?
Its likely to be because of gynocentrism, even if you feminists refuse to accept(or even entertain the possibility) that society cares more about women than men you cannot convince me that feminists, both female and male, don’t clearly value women more than men, that is why treatment of a woman in the same exact way as a man is considered more abusive, because you don’t care about men as much as women.
You sit there and defend a sexist word designed to shame men for speaking to women about any topic, it is only used to tell men to shut up, like it was being used to there against Notch.
You sit there using and excusing gendered slurs against men while clutching your pearls screaming “think of the women” to the same treatment aimed at women, you feminists are all gynocentric and you c*nts can f*ck right off with your double standards.
Meanwhile, fellow KiAer Saddex took a moment of his time to let us in on what “mainsplaining” ACTUALLY is:
The thing with mansplaining is that, just with religion, it’s an unfalsefiable hypothesis. There is really no way to prove that it’s actually a real thing. Sure, might be a couple of assholes out there, but isn’t that same with women as well? Are you sure that if a man, or woman talks condescending to you, that it must be because of your gender? What about your personality, or the actual context? Did you say something just before that would be considered stupid by other people?…
I am going to treat people who tries to convince me that mansplaining actually is real thing like I treat people who try to convince me that god is real. You can believe if you wish but I rely on proof, and the burden of proof lies on the believer. It’s so satisfying to know that these people act just like religious extremists, should be compared to those and that you can use very similar argumentation to debunk what they’re saying.
Yes, what better way to debunk those ladies who get mansplained constantly than telling them they’re irrational fanatics who are seeing things that aren’t there, and that they probably brought this totally imaginary thing on themselves anyway by being such, well, the c-word thing.
All in all, an outstanding victory for the forces of Men’s Rightness and Ethics in Guys Who Make Video Games Calling Women the C-word.
If someone wants to popularise a gender neutral word for mansplaining, I’ll gladly use it, but that’s not their point. What they want is to keep talking down to to women regardless of their knowledge of the subject and no one to be allowed to call them out on it.
Beloved: “Screw him, Minecraft is still cool.”
Me: “Plus he sold it, he doesn’t have it anymore.”
I guess he’ll just have to clutch his billion-dollar-plus net worth and cry himself to sleep.
Mansplaining isn’t a thing. Allow me to mansplain it to you.
bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
“I’m against sexism”
“You’re a c*nt”
Fucking hell, Notch.
Fucking learn to write, you comma-splicing DICK. But before that, learn some history and learn to fucking THINK. (Knee-jerk reflexive sexism like this does not count as thought.)
And Persson, lose the fucking trilby and the attitude that goes with it. Jesus H. Mansplaining CHRIST.
Uh, no. No it isn’t.
How ’bout you learn what the word means and how it’s used before getting all defensive about it, Daedlizrad? Wouldn’t that be more manly man STEMrational than just making assumptions about it and getting your BVDs all in a bunch?
Somebody needs to link these sooper genyusses to Rebecca Solnit’s “Men Explain Things To Me,” wherein she recounts the (true) story of a man who went on and on to her about a new book that he’d heard was really good. Took Solnit’s (woman) friend telling him three or four times “That’s her book–she wrote it,” before he processed the information.
Trust us, boys. Mansplaining is a real phenomenon.
Here’s a link to Solnit’s piece. Though she doesn’t actually use it, the term “mansplaining” was probably coined in response to this essay:
https://www.guernicamag.com/daily/rebecca-solnit-men-explain-things-to-me/
Well, see, he’s too busy explaining stuff to bother to find out what it is he’s talking about. But trust him, he wrote a game and wound up making gazillions of dollars, so you can believe him, because he never lies and he’s always right.
(Honestly, this whole thing is so meta I almost wonder if it’s intentional? Naaahhh…. I mean, manplaining why “mansplaining” isn’t real?)
You want stemlogical proof that mansplaining exists? How about the studies showing that women don’t talk more than men, but are perceived to. How about the studies showing that men see a group as woman dominated if a third of its members are women? How about the studies showing that men interrupt women more than they interrupt men?
If our anecdotes aren’t enough, fine. I can understand that. But there’s plenty of research supporting our antedotes. Men don’t like to listen to women.
Mansplaining is really not a difficult concept to grasp, as long as you don’t just assume that you know what it means by virtue of being a dude.
Somehow the Mansplaining dudes never figure that part out
“Mansplaining” is a problem for EVERYONE regardless of gender. I don’t need some dicklick who doesn’t know jack about what he’s talking about to tell me how to do my job, for example, simply on the virtue that he is a REAL MAN and would somehow know more about my field of expertise than the expert himself.
This is like the Carl Sagan dragon in my garage situation, except instead of the person trying to explain to another person about the dragon, you’re trying to tell an actual dragon about the dragon you supposedly have in your garage.
Telling the dragon about the dragon in your garage… That should totally be a thing to talk about telling an expert how to do their job because you think it should be done a certain way.
I’ve spent an hour now reading the Tweets between @notch and folks. I’d never actually imagined that this guy would be such a bag of shit, but there it is.
Damnit. Oh well, I won’t tell my minecraft obsessed daughter this. She’s much too young to start feeling like all media and its creators are out to make things shit for her. :/
Equalist my ass. Lots of mansplainy funtimes.
So, can I now act a smug jackass about how Notch basically ruined his own product’s reputation by acting this way? Or how literal children will have to grow up knowing this egotistical man child is what made part of their toolbox and childhood?
The term I use, because I tend to resist made-up words for years before I finally crack and start using them, is patronizing.
Ironically, it was also gender based, back when it was an unruly young word.
I have seen it happen firsthand.
I’m an anthropology student, but I’ve always rather loved any scientific exploration of the universe (cosmology, astrophysics, etc). I was attending a talk given by one of the astrophysics professors (she has a PhD and multiple published scientific papers in the field). Before the talk, she was hanging with a group of us answering some questions (okay okay… she was answering my questions; she’s an expert and I love this stuff, and that was the first and, so far, last, chance I had to question an astrophysicist :D).
This one d00d came up, cut off our conversation, and asked her a question about dark matter. She began to answer, but he actually cut her off (again) and started to “critique” the paper she was basing her answer on…
He routinely referred to the head researcher on the paper as “he”, and was incredibly condescending in general, all but saying that he knew more about the subject than she did.
Turns out, of course, that dark matter is the focus of her research, and she was the head researcher on the paper in question.
The d00d? An undergraduate freshman in evolutionary psychology. Finding out that she was the head researcher (that he kept referring to as “he”) and that dark matter was her area of expertise didn’t phase him at all.
We as a group just eventually shut him out.
That’s just one example, and I’ve no doubt I’ve seen (and, I’m ashamed to admit, probably committed myself without thinking about it) many more examples of mansplaining before and after, but that’s the first one that comes to my head when I think about it.
Geez, another example of the comment section demonstrating the very point being made in the article.
Notch actually step down from making Minecraft a little while before it was sold to Microsoft anyway. I think Jeb has been working on it since.
I heard Notch made this game called Scrolls and there’s this sci-fi game? I haven’t heard much about them. Minecraft was pretty much the only game of his that really got mainstream success it seems.
Iseult the Idle:
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Haha!
MOAR MISANDRY!
Huh?
Yes. Jeb had much more creative oversight over the game than Notch from 2011 onwards.
He clearly sees “dick” as being an equivalent insult to the c-word, and is too busy mansplaining what mansplaining means to realize he’s in the wrong here. And that his hurt feelings don’t justify using slurs that are associated with violence against a marginalized group.
(Also, I think the neutral version of mansplaining is just ‘splaining. You can prefix it with anything, I think, so long as the person in question is being bullheaded and lecturing someone in a less advantaged group of people about something they already know.)
That I am aware of but for many Notch is the face of the product. That aside
@Nathan
I am so sorry that your professor had to deal with such a sophomoric individual. You think that by learning science that some people would be humbled by how much there is to learn rather than try to play the one up game.
@Jewelfox
The other term is speaking for me.
Lady Mondegreen:
An article about Solnit’s own personal experiences with mansplaining results in a comment section filled-to-bursting with exceptionally lengthy screeds mansplaining why the author is incorrect. I expected as such, but I didn’t anticipate the degree of it.
http://www.pointandclickbait.com/2016/05/notch-silenced-by-women/