Cupcakes for Hitler: Internet Nazis rally around embattled teenage Führer-lover Evalion

Have Neo Nazis been getting bolder in the last couple of years, more willing to state their beliefs publicly? Or have they always been this unapologetically out in the open, and I, as a white goy, have been too wrapped up in my own privilege to notice?

My feeling is that they may have always been with us, but have gone from being scary fringe thugs (dangerous but negligible, and with a tendency to tear their own groupuscules to shreds) and bar-room blowhards to having their views and talking points picked up on a much more mainstream stage.

There’s a good essay by a British Conservative commentator, Peter Oborne, about how in 1964 a Conservative candidate for Parliament campaigned on an overtly racist platform (slogan: “If you want a [n-word] for your neighbour, vote Labour”). He succeeded, in that he was elected, but was treated as a a pariah in parliament, even by his own party.

Whereas this year the Conservatives ran a nakedly racist and divisive electoral campaign for London mayor – in which they managed to slander one of their own activists as a Muslim terrorist who supports Daesh, as it happens – which came right from the top.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conservatives-game-religious-and-racial-divisions-538083247

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
May 17, 2016 at 11:42 pm

How do you identify a Jew? Uh, because they say they’re Jewish? I mean, anyone who reads this site knows there’s still plenty of anti-Semitism, but this kind of virulent anti-Semitism is fringe enough that I really don’t think it’s usual for Jewish people to hid the fact that they’re Jewish. I’m a little confused as to why anyone would wonder how to identify a Jewish person.

As bluecat’s last anecdote suggests, the alt-right has, among their myriad delusions, the notion that there are all sorts of seekrit Jews out there. This hidden army of closet Jews is supposedly a key force in the Zionist conspiracy; by remaining closeted, they are able to manipulate the media and government without these manipulations being tied to the Jews.

Now, since obviously these seekrit Jews are going to be concealing themselves, the alt-right haters need a way to identify them that doesn’t rely on classic physical stereotypes. Some of them may not even have hooked noses! (This is part of the reason the seekrit Jews push for miscegenation, for instance–it blurs the god-created lines between ethnic groups.)

Lacking these identifiers, the alt-right looks instead for behavior and ideology. Anyone could be a Jew, and you just have to look and see if they are following the Jewish agenda to identify them as such. As an easy starter, I’ll just note that “Secret Jew” and “Social Justice” have the same initials, so the conclusion there is obvious, yeah?

@ Freemage

indeed – and if not actual Jews themselves, then they probably had something to do with the Rothschilds, or with Soros, or with practically any bank you can care to name (as apparently they’re all part of it, all of them, I tell you, ALL!) at some point or other in their lives, so are obviously in their pay.

Of course there have been “secret Jews” – if the only way you could save your children from deportation to a terrible death was to convince them that they were, say, little Bretons and that their parents were called Pierre and Marie – as with Georges Perec – you’d probably do it.

This seems like a good time to give the JRRT quote when a German publisher requested proof of his “Aryan” heritage so that they could proceed with a German-language version of The Hobbit:

Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.

You know what pisses me off? I’m Jewish and I have never once received an invite to participate in the Great Jewish Conspiracy. I’m not sure I’d join but I feel insulted that I haven’t even been approached.

Hey do you think the Great Jewish Conspiracy would admit a Wiccan? I mean we worship a pretty large pantheon (well at least the Wiccans I know do) so I’m sure we could find some room for Jehovah in there somewhere

HeinzD: Well, imagine what it’s like for us poor victims of misangloandry–we never get invited to ANY of the cool conspiracies!

Can we please be allowed to go just one day without having to explain what “free speech” is?

I know, right? It’s strange that people who supposedly care so much about it has so weak a grasp on the meaning.

According to GamerGaters, nobody’s a GamerGater and GamerGate is nothing.

@Viscaria:

I agree, and I think there’s three reasons.

Firstly, I think there’s the same number of hardcore neo-Nazis as there ever were, but society has shifted away from them and left them more visible. The open white-supremacists are no longer camouflaged by their many tacitly white-supremacist contemporaries.

Secondly, I also think the internet makes it far more public, because everything on the internet is public. Fifty years ago we would be having this conversation in person in someone’s house or a pub or somewhere; now anyone can read what I’m writing. Neo-Nazis have similarly increased in visibility.

Thirdly, I think the internet has done wonders for community building, especially amongst minority or fringe groups. If you were the only gay person in your village pre-internet then your choices were to stay quiet or leave town; now you can talk to other gay people and be much more secure in your identity. This has been transformative for many groups; tragically, white supremacists appear to be among them.

EJ: One other factor comes into play, I believe. We are living in an era of great social changes. One effect of this is that the worst of the regressives and reactionaries are scared pantsless, and panicking, and making a lot more noise than they did when they were merely considered uncouth–on many fronts, they know they are losing completely, and that terrifies them into lashing out.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

@Bluecat

Of course there have been “secret Jews” – if the only way you could save your children from deportation to a terrible death

It is my understanding that there are still crypto-Jews in Spain and Portugal, who have been pretending to be Catholic and practicing Judaism in secret since the Alhambra Decree in 1493. I read an article a few years back purporting to be an interveiw with such a family under condition of anonymity. When asked why they continued to hide in the modern age, the reply amounted to ‘Some people stopped hiding at the beginning of the 20th century, because clearly things were getting better, and it wasn’t going to be a problem anymore. We’re not making that mistake again.’
@Freemage

IHeinzD: Well, imagine what it’s like for us poor victims of misangloandry–we never get invited to ANY of the cool conspiracies!

There’s always the Freemasons.