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Cupcakes for Hitler: Internet Nazis rally around embattled teenage Führer-lover Evalion

Yes, she really did bake cupcakes for Hitler
Yes, she really did bake cupcakes for Hitler

If you’re looking for more evidence that truth is indeed stranger than fiction (excluding, of course, the fiction of Chuck Tingle), consider the case of the now-banned Youtuber Evalion, a teenaged Hitler enthusiast with a disconcertingly young-sounding voice who made videos praising the Führer for, among other things, his love of dogs. On his birthday, she baked the dead German leader swastika cupcakes and sang “happy birthday” to a picture of him she tacked on the wall.

In recent weeks, the Hitler-lover with the baby voice was just beginning to hit her stride, Youtube-wise, with her videos Why Hitler Wasn’t Evil and How to Identify A Jew garnering hundreds of thousands of views each. Her follower count leapt to more than 40,000. Meanwhile some of her fans on Reddit started up a subreddit devoted to her.

Earlier today, after being called out by several Youtubers with fan bases even bigger than hers, she was banned by Youtube for her obvious violations of the site’s not-terribly well-enforced rules against hate speech. She started up a second channel but this, too, was quickly banned. I would say that she did Nazi that coming, but she clearly did.

On Twitter, her foul fans cried foul.

https://twitter.com/Burzenland/status/732739006903910400

https://twitter.com/Samisdat14/status/732734351515996160

https://twitter.com/ARShitlord2/status/732639546467311616

Another alt-right Twitterer declared that “Everyone needs to Harrass [the] fa***t … who encouraged people to report Evalion’s YouTube channel!!!”

Even before her channel got pulled down, Internet Nazis and other sh*tlords were rallying around her.  On the Daily Stormer, Andrew Angelin warned his readers that the “Evalion is being lynch-mobbed by groups of whining fa***ts,” and urged them to download her videos so they could put them up on their own channels later. (Apparently, some of them did.)

Several other familiar names tried to get a hashtag going:

https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/732673636851679234

The outrage from the usual suspects is certainly predictable enough, as is the fact that Evalion is, you guessed it, a Trump supporter.

What makes the whole thing so surreal is Evalion herself. Or at least THAT VOICE.

Evalion says she’s 18, and (as you can see from the pictures above) she looks likes she probably is around that age. But she sounds more like she’s eight, and it’s more than a little disconcerting to hear someone who sounds that young going on about the alleged evils of “the International Jewish Community.”

Here are a few snippets, which I took from a mirrored copy of perhaps her most notorious video, Why Hitler Wasn’t Evil.

Is the voice a put on? Is she a put on? Is this all an elaborate troll job? I don’t think so. In some of her other videos she doesn’t sound quite so young as she does here, but this is apparently pretty close to how she really talks. She seems sincere to me, and certainly her fans on the far-right have no problem believing she’s for real.

With her videos down, and the mirrored videos likely to be taken down, the only way to see and hear just what it was that got her banned is through the videos of her many critics, the most famous ones being LeafyIsHere, who made two videos about her, and Onision, whose call for his Twitter followers to “flag this woman’s hate speech into non-existence” is almost certainly what got her channel taken down. (I’m a little hesitant about linking to either of these guys; Leafy makes videos about what he sees as the cringiest people on Youtube; what this means is that, as Gizmodo once put it, he “Makes Money Bullying People With Learning Disabilities.” Onision has said all sorts of problematic things.)

Now LeafyIsHere is pondering whether or not he should try to get YouTube to reinstate her channel. That seems unlikely, but  somehow I suspect we have not seen or heard the last of Evalion.

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The Furious Mouse
4 years ago

This has NOTHING to do with GamerGate. Why do you keep tagging things with #GamerGate when they have LITERALLY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH IT? Oh, right, you’re a drama-whoring, pussy-begging, white knight.

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

Have Neo Nazis been getting bolder in the last couple of years, more willing to state their beliefs publicly? Or have they always been this unapologetically out in the open, and I, as a white goy, have been too wrapped up in my own privilege to notice?

My feeling is that they may have always been with us, but have gone from being scary fringe thugs (dangerous but negligible, and with a tendency to tear their own groupuscules to shreds) and bar-room blowhards to having their views and talking points picked up on a much more mainstream stage.

There’s a good essay by a British Conservative commentator, Peter Oborne, about how in 1964 a Conservative candidate for Parliament campaigned on an overtly racist platform (slogan: “If you want a [n-word] for your neighbour, vote Labour”). He succeeded, in that he was elected, but was treated as a a pariah in parliament, even by his own party.

Whereas this year the Conservatives ran a nakedly racist and divisive electoral campaign for London mayor – in which they managed to slander one of their own activists as a Muslim terrorist who supports Daesh, as it happens – which came right from the top.

http://www.middleeasteye.net/columns/london-mayor-race-conservatives-game-religious-and-racial-divisions-538083247

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

@ Alan,

Jesuits, eh?

My brothers’ education (and my Dad’s employment) was with the Benedictines.

(Three things not even God knows: what a Jesuit is thinking, what a Benedictine is saying, and how many orders of nuns there are).

It’s a bit of a trip down memory lane, as the police have just caught up with the ex-Abbot/ex-headmaster after 5 exciting years on the run.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
May 17, 2016 at 11:42 pm

How do you identify a Jew? Uh, because they say they’re Jewish? I mean, anyone who reads this site knows there’s still plenty of anti-Semitism, but this kind of virulent anti-Semitism is fringe enough that I really don’t think it’s usual for Jewish people to hid the fact that they’re Jewish. I’m a little confused as to why anyone would wonder how to identify a Jewish person.

As bluecat’s last anecdote suggests, the alt-right has, among their myriad delusions, the notion that there are all sorts of seekrit Jews out there. This hidden army of closet Jews is supposedly a key force in the Zionist conspiracy; by remaining closeted, they are able to manipulate the media and government without these manipulations being tied to the Jews.

Now, since obviously these seekrit Jews are going to be concealing themselves, the alt-right haters need a way to identify them that doesn’t rely on classic physical stereotypes. Some of them may not even have hooked noses! (This is part of the reason the seekrit Jews push for miscegenation, for instance–it blurs the god-created lines between ethnic groups.)

Lacking these identifiers, the alt-right looks instead for behavior and ideology. Anyone could be a Jew, and you just have to look and see if they are following the Jewish agenda to identify them as such. As an easy starter, I’ll just note that “Secret Jew” and “Social Justice” have the same initials, so the conclusion there is obvious, yeah?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ bluecat

There was a great documentary years ago where they filmed in a Jesuit seminary. There was a nice exchange between one of the priests and the head of that particular order that I think nicely summed up the Jesuit way of thinking.

“Father, would it be alright if I smoke whilst I pray?”
“Certainly not”
“How about if I pray whilst I’m smoking”
“That would be fine”

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

@ Freemage

indeed – and if not actual Jews themselves, then they probably had something to do with the Rothschilds, or with Soros, or with practically any bank you can care to name (as apparently they’re all part of it, all of them, I tell you, ALL!) at some point or other in their lives, so are obviously in their pay.

Of course there have been “secret Jews” – if the only way you could save your children from deportation to a terrible death was to convince them that they were, say, little Bretons and that their parents were called Pierre and Marie – as with Georges Perec – you’d probably do it.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

Anecdote time. I had a good friend who was a bit of a skinhead. He always about being anti-fascist and how terrible the Nazis were, but… well, at some point he started making racist Jew jokes. He also dressed in all black with military boots, and would comically click his heels together and salute Nazi-style when asked things.

We told him that we didn’t think it was funny or liked it, but he just said we were too uptight. It started happening more often, and got worse. He had started going out to punk shows and was learning bass guitar, and we learned later that he had gotten himself hooked on cocaine. One of the guys in his band had pushed some on him (the first ones were free of course) and was now milking him. The fascist posturing and angry outbursts got worse.

We ended up cutting ties with him when an angry altercation ended up with a knife being pulled. I still feel bad about how it ended up – he had reached out to us for help with the addiction at one point, but he refused to stop going out with his ‘friends,’ and that was the source of his problem. I hope he’s managed to get free from that.

Sorry if that’s oversharing! The whole “lol nazis” attitude that’s gotten popular lately always grates on me, because it’s not a joke. There are far, far too many people who actually believe this shit to adopt the posture as comedy.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

This seems like a good time to give the JRRT quote when a German publisher requested proof of his “Aryan” heritage so that they could proceed with a German-language version of The Hobbit:

Thank you for your letter. I regret that I am not clear as to what you intend by arisch. I am not of Aryan extraction: that is Indo-Iranian; as far as I am aware none of my ancestors spoke Hindustani, Persian, Gypsy, or any related dialects. But if I am to understand that you are enquiring whether I am of Jewish origin, I can only reply that I regret that I appear to have no ancestors of that gifted people.

Tabby Lavalamp
Tabby Lavalamp
4 years ago

Can we please be allowed to go just one day without having to explain what “free speech” is?

HeinzD
HeinzD
4 years ago

You know what pisses me off? I’m Jewish and I have never once received an invite to participate in the Great Jewish Conspiracy. I’m not sure I’d join but I feel insulted that I haven’t even been approached.

EmpressRat
EmpressRat
4 years ago

@Kivutar

Sadly, what Christians (or at least, a number of them, especially Americans) are taught is 1) Jews killed Jesus and 2) anyone who doesn’t believe in Jesus as the savior is going to hell.

As an adult, I recognize it as ridiculous, with a whiff of anti-semitism to boot. But as an ethnically Jewish eleven-year-old who had never experienced life without lighting the menorah or having Passover dinner, it was pretty devastating.

Inkswitch
Inkswitch
4 years ago

Hey do you think the Great Jewish Conspiracy would admit a Wiccan? I mean we worship a pretty large pantheon (well at least the Wiccans I know do) so I’m sure we could find some room for Jehovah in there somewhere

Wetherby
Wetherby
4 years ago

As an easy starter, I’ll just note that “Secret Jew” and “Social Justice” have the same initials, so the conclusion there is obvious, yeah?

And the Society of Jesus, also known as the Jesuits, as mentioned above. Indeed, prominent Jesuits sign themselves SJ.

The plot is thickening.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

HeinzD: Well, imagine what it’s like for us poor victims of misangloandry–we never get invited to ANY of the cool conspiracies!

HeinzD
HeinzD
4 years ago

Inkswitch – If I ever get my invite, I’ll pass your name on.

Lukas Xavier
Lukas Xavier
4 years ago

Can we please be allowed to go just one day without having to explain what “free speech” is?

I know, right? It’s strange that people who supposedly care so much about it has so weak a grasp on the meaning.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

According to GamerGaters, nobody’s a GamerGater and GamerGate is nothing.

Axecalibur
Axecalibur
4 years ago

@jennifer
‘Sup! It’s customary here to greet newbies with what is called a ‘package of welcoming’. Do enjoy 🙂

I don’t mean to start a whole… thing, but here goes
IANAL, but my reading of the Amalgamated case doesn’t seem like it would have applied to YouTube. Say, you walk thru a shopping center with a picket sign, but you’re just passing thru on your way somewhere else. That sign is speech, so you’re technically peaceably assembling at every store you walk by. It would be considered unreasonable to expect you to go the long way around the complex, when literally nobody else has to. Therefore you can’t be excluded from the space without some affirmative reason to exclude you, and speech a particular businessperson doesn’t like ain’t gonna cut it
Now, one can’t really pass thru YouTube in the same way. One has to sign up/in to express themselves on that site. Google itself is entirely public, so they can’t eliminate Stormfront from their search engine. YouTube is inherently exclusionary, what with it’s accounts and user agreements and such. I tend to think of YouTube as not so much speaking in front of a store, as speaking inside of said store

However, as a not lawyer speaking to a lawyer, I’ll defer. Am I making sense? There’s a really good chance I’m talking complete bullshit

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

@Viscaria:

I agree, and I think there’s three reasons.

Firstly, I think there’s the same number of hardcore neo-Nazis as there ever were, but society has shifted away from them and left them more visible. The open white-supremacists are no longer camouflaged by their many tacitly white-supremacist contemporaries.

Secondly, I also think the internet makes it far more public, because everything on the internet is public. Fifty years ago we would be having this conversation in person in someone’s house or a pub or somewhere; now anyone can read what I’m writing. Neo-Nazis have similarly increased in visibility.

Thirdly, I think the internet has done wonders for community building, especially amongst minority or fringe groups. If you were the only gay person in your village pre-internet then your choices were to stay quiet or leave town; now you can talk to other gay people and be much more secure in your identity. This has been transformative for many groups; tragically, white supremacists appear to be among them.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

Axecalibur: I’d actually push the analogy a bit further–a YouTuber is, essentially, a mall-store owner. The content they provide is the ‘rent’ (since this draws eyes to the advertising). Within the bounds of non-discrimination laws (which should apply), the mall ownership is within its rights to place restrictions on what sort of businesses they rent to, because a sufficiently offensive store can harm the other businesses there by driving away foot traffic.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

EJ: One other factor comes into play, I believe. We are living in an era of great social changes. One effect of this is that the worst of the regressives and reactionaries are scared pantsless, and panicking, and making a lot more noise than they did when they were merely considered uncouth–on many fronts, they know they are losing completely, and that terrifies them into lashing out.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo
4 years ago

Since gamergaters tend to be neo Nazis it’s not that hard to see the connection.

Dalillama
4 years ago

@Bluecat

Of course there have been “secret Jews” – if the only way you could save your children from deportation to a terrible death

It is my understanding that there are still crypto-Jews in Spain and Portugal, who have been pretending to be Catholic and practicing Judaism in secret since the Alhambra Decree in 1493. I read an article a few years back purporting to be an interveiw with such a family under condition of anonymity. When asked why they continued to hide in the modern age, the reply amounted to ‘Some people stopped hiding at the beginning of the 20th century, because clearly things were getting better, and it wasn’t going to be a problem anymore. We’re not making that mistake again.’
@Freemage

IHeinzD: Well, imagine what it’s like for us poor victims of misangloandry–we never get invited to ANY of the cool conspiracies!

There’s always the Freemasons.

Eitan rosen
Eitan rosen
4 years ago

I am Jewish and I never got my invite to the sekrit Jewish intarnatonal conspiracy.
I am being sarcastic except being Jewish.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

For one thing, it just is not true that the right to speech does not involve the right to be heard. The right to speech involves the right to a venue with access to the public in a reasonable time, place, and manner.

I’ll try to be fair with this. In the abstract I can see how this might be the standard. Independent of government the rest of society can functionally suppress speech in ways that would be a problem. I can imagine this as the situation here in the US in decades and centuries past as many minority groups wanted to be heard.

But this comment is still unhelpful with respect to how speech is causing problems on many issues, in a de facto sense if nothing else. Perhaps you can offer something more specific on areas of concern? If you have knowledge in this area you could be useful with phrasing and rhetoric related to how the term “free speech” is used when critics of social justice issues use it.

Yes, you tube and social media sites are privately owned and, for that reason, the fact that they have largely replaced public gathering spaces should scare us silly. It all but eliminates real protections for unpopular speech and that is bad for democracy and also bad for progressives who have traditionally been the targets of censorship. It is one thing to protest someone’s message through counter speech or by refusing to host them at colleges, universities, and convention centers. It is another to deny a message all access to the social commons.

I disagree. If Youtube decided that it would ban racist content all it would take was for racists to set up their own video site. I can see how it might be a problem at the level of hosting of content, but again racists might be able to set up their own hosting services (I say might because I am admittedly ignorant of this area). When it comes to simply using the internet I would be on the same page as you since that I think that would qualify as a public good.
I agree that they should have a means of making their content available to anyone who might want to see it but I’m not convinced that Youtube level companies is a good choice. I’ll give another reason why below.

Obviously directed harassment or speech that targets an individual is another matter, but there is no reason to shout this girl’s message out. Frankly, the best way to demonstrate its hatefulness is to allow it to be heard and to respond as forcefully as needed.

I think that directed harassment we would agree on. Targeted speech might get tricky depending on its nature. But an example I have encountered on more than one occasion was where commentators were banned and made free speech arguments about why they should not be banned. If the law were to prevent something like Youtube from choosing to restrict speech, what about a blog? If Youtube can’t decide on community standards that could ban bigoted speech or similar kinds of community standards would the law let a blog owner or even a blog network do and if so how would that be justified under the law?

What about sites that would want to suppress particular kinds of speech in order to correct for institutionalized social problems? Such as choosing to elevate particular voices and require others to avoid certain things? Many women and other minorities are driven from the internet simply due to the overwhelming number of negative to insulting comments that in aggregate act as a serious social force. Mere negative comments are often not harmless when they are selectively applied like how women get lots of questions about things like appearance or domestic things instead of questions related to their profession in a situation contextualized by their profession.

I’ve also seen people make similar arguments when banned for: repeatedly making the same argument after it was refuted, repeatedly making insulting assertions, repeatedly using insulting characterizations while insisting they were merely characterizations and similar things that I don’t see a problem with.

There were a series of Supreme Court cases in the latter half of the 20th century…

What would your position be on the sorts of things I mentioned above and what concrete functionally useful suggestions might you have? It’s one thing to say that we should simply respond to speech with speech, but it quite another when a lot of the “free speech” rhetoric that is often encountered has to do with controlling a private social space in ways that functionally and realistically deal with how conscious and unconscious bigots actually effect the speech of others right now even when that speech is responded to. While I have good skills when it comes to arguing even I can only keep it up for so long and others have been driven to PTSD and depression. As long as such people can set up their own social spaces I see no problem.

Brony, Social Justice Cenobite

Oops…
That comment was responding to Jennifer on page one. I’m not messing with the editing today.

Mattie
Mattie
4 years ago

YouTube isn’t the government, it’s a privately-owned site that has no actual responsibility to offer a platform for unlimited free speech.
It takes down videos and channels for BS “copyright infringement” reasons all the time, because the rights of corporations apparently come before the rights of marginalized people who don’t want to get targeted by neo-Nazis.
Why not get a channel like Evalion taken down? It clearly violates YouTube’s anti-hate speech policy.
It’s not like neo-Nazis can’t hear these views anywhere else on the internet or offline.
“Free speech” whining about sites like YouTube is just that: whining.

Mattie
Mattie
4 years ago

I’d worry more about narrowing of free speech laws being used to silence progressives if progressive and left-wing voices weren’t historically already silenced, whether it was legal or not.
From pretty much the beginning, government agencies like the FBI put undercover agents in groups like the Black Panthers to sabotage them from within.
Hell, peaceful protesters get arrested or antagonized by police all the time.
Nobody was worrying about privatization getting in the way of free speech when people got kicked out of a privately-owned shopping mall for wearing anti-war shirts, back before the Iraq War started.
The laws around free speech have a long history of protecting hate speech, not progressive speech, which gets a crackdown whether it’s legal or not.
So no, I’m not worried about YouTube removing a channel for hate speech.

mockingbird80
mockingbird80
4 years ago

(*luckily they didn’t test if we actually believed any of it; in fact the Jesuit priests were pretty cool about us not doing. They used to set us debate topics like “Believing in a deity is delusional. Discuss”)

I have a friend who attended Jesuit schools. He lauds that fact and his Irish heritage for his being the most argumentative SOB most people know.

@themousethatsqueeked – Many time David includes tangential tags.
Many bloggers do.
It’s part of driving traffic.

re: pretty much everything else about this post & the one before: I haven’t yet been able to find a GIF that sufficiently conveys the level of “WTF, humanity?” I’ve reached.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

ColeYote:

Man, is there anything Nazis think George Soros isn’t behind?

This is why I support him for leader of the New World Order. The dude knows how to get shit done.

Moocow
4 years ago

@the flouncing mouse

This has NOTHING to do with GamerGate. Why do you keep tagging things with #GamerGate when they have LITERALLY NOTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH IT? Oh, right, you’re a drama-whoring, pussy-begging, white knight.

I’m not sure you understand what white knighting is. Not surprising considering gamergaters are apparently incapable of looking up the definitions to simple words like “gamer”, “criticism” “harassment” and “censorship”.

So, do tell, who is the woman that David Futrelle is allegedly white-knighting for?

Pen
Pen
4 years ago

As a 46 year old who regularly gets asked by callers whether my parents are home, I’m noting for the record that there’s a gender issue around how people perceive that kind of voice. Like, you won’t catch me putting up YouTube videos, I’m going to stick to writing. Why? I’m an adult with a lifetime of qualifications and experiences, dammit, and incidentally, I identify as gender neutral. I don’t really want to deal with people saying ‘but she sounds like a little girl’ whenever I get into anything deep, or cynical, or vulgar. Authority and professional respect? It would be hard for me to get those in a job where I had to appear in person. Think about it guys… The shape of one’s vocal chords have nothing to do with maturity or anything else that counts.

* apologies if someone brought this up already. And in other news, shame on Evalion for being a neoNazi, obviously.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

I’m going to agree with a few other people here and just say that YouTube isn’t the only place online to host videos, and people with access to servers and some web design can create their own space on the limitless expanse that is The Internet, so YouTube shutting down channels at their discretion isn’t violating anyone’s freedom of speech.

We see this argument a LOT about people like Anita Sarkeesian disabling her comments section due to harassment. “Anita’s censoring us!” her “critics” will say. “She’s not being fair! She doesn’t want to hear our (rather nasty) opinion of her or her work!”

However, nothing’s stopping them from going other places to spout that opinion. Reddit, twitter, private blogs, etc. still exist and are still open to them and their views. Anita’s just saying “Yeah, I would personally rather not hear what you have to say, thanks.” Which, I feel, should be within her rights to do.

Another thing about this case is that YouTube has rules about not posting hate-speech and the like. While it’s not equally enforced at all (but copyright bullshit is, fancy that) it’s still one of their terms of service, and the ToS must be obeyed if you’re going to use YouTube’s resources, like their servers and their website features.

Imagine you asked me to lend you a pencil, and I agreed, on the condition you didn’t chew on it. I leave the room for a moment, and come back to find you chewing on the pencil I asked you not to chew on.

I would be well within my rights to take my pencil back and ban you from using my pencils again, wouldn’t I? You broke the rule I had put in place for you to use my stuff, therefore you don’t get to use my stuff anymore.

The same thing applies here. YouTube has rules in place for you to use their servers and website features. When you make an account, you’re agreeing to those rules. It’s like a contract. “Party A gets access to Party B’s resources, and in exchange, Party A agrees to these terms of conduct whilst using these resources.”

While YouTube does a shitty job of applying those rules across the board, and while they have some bullshit rules in need of replacement or reconsideration, them’s still the rules, and the rules must be obeyed in order for a user to have access to YouTube’s resources.

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

@ Dalilama, Wetherby and everyone

Jews, Jesuits and Freemasons, you say? Add Communists and the Vatican and you’ve got the Reverend Doctor Ian Paisley (senior)’s entire worldview.He was an extremely big deal in Northern Ireland until his death a few years ago, and believed some extraordinary stuff, especially about those five sources of all evil.

Maybe nowadays Communism would be called “cultural Marxism” or something: otherwise you could just copy and paste.

You’d think they’d be the most unlikely bedfellows, wouldn’t you?

Ahah, but that’s what we in the international sekrit conspiracy… I mean they, they… just want us to think.

dslucia
dslucia
4 years ago

WWTH:

Since gamergaters tend to be neo Nazis it’s not that hard to see the connection.

The only thing that surprises me about GarbleGrate anymore is how they still occasionally try to pretend that they aren’t awful people.

Apparently right now a bunch of them are really mad at Patton Oswalt for mocking AVGN’s video on why he isn’t going to review the new Ghostbusters or something. GGers are champing at the bit to spin this as some sort of SJW outrage and also making jokes about Patton’s dead wife. Stay classy.

Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
4 years ago

Moocow

So, do tell, who is the woman that David Futrelle is allegedly white-knighting for?

Well, Katie, obviously!

re: all the Jewish conspiracy comments – I grew up in a rather Jewish neighborhood; to the point that we didn’t have classes* in public school on Jewish holidays because at least 40% of the class was absent. I even went to Temple with some of my friends and never once saw anything even vaguely conspiracy-ish! Or even a little bit suspicious.

It’s almost like there isn’t really any conspiracy at all!

*The rest of us still had to go to school, we just spent those days playing hangman on the blackboard, watching filmstrips (ah, the 1960s!), and got an extra recess. Thanks, Jewish kids of my youth, it almost makes up for having to hear all about the great stuff you got for Hanukkah for EIGHT FREAKIN’ DAYS IN A ROW!!/jealous

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

If she REALLY loved Hitler, wouldn’t she put his picture in a nice frame and not just tack it to the wall?

She would have baked him some more professional looking cupcakes as well. As a deceased dictator, doesn’t he deserve better than the crappy job she did on those?

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

Blu-ray – so Paisley thought the Jesuits/Vatican were on the same side as the Freemasons? Curiously enough, so did (or does) American pamphleteer and evangelist Jack Chick.

Full disclosure – I was raised Catholic and am now a Mason. Under canon law, that means I am subject to summary excommunication. Really should go down to the diocesan office and get that in writing.

Regarding the OP, I am somewhat surprised to learn that YouTube has standards of any kind.

Regarding ‘secret Jews’, the idea that Jewishness is somehow innate goes back centuries. I read a good history of the Inquisition recently, and it touched on this. Before a certain point, Jewish converts to Christianity were treated like cradle Christians – if they displayed purity of conduct and belief, they were tolerated. After that, they and their descendants were considered tainted and under constant suspicion of ‘Judaizing’ – practicing their old religion in secret. In Spain, the descendants of Muslim converts were under similar scrutiny – something as innocuous as eating couscous in public could result in an investigation. There’s historical accounts of crypto-Jews emigrating to New Spain for greater latitude – so the Inquisition followed.

pitshade
pitshade
4 years ago

IIRC, it was after the Reconquista. Jewish people were given the choice to convert to Christianity or leave the country. The Inquisition was formed mostly to keep tabs on the ones who converted – because they told the Spanish what they wanted to hear so that they could keep their homes, but the Spanish were aware of this so they didn’t trust them to keep their word because it was effectively given under duress…

As a bit of trivia though, according to the books I’ve read about the Inquisition and about the witch trials, the mania never took hold in Spain because for all of its flaws, the Inquisition required a higher standard of proof than the witch hunters and ultimately the witch hunters were prosecuted as a threat to the Inquisition’s power.

Joseph Goebbels
Joseph Goebbels
4 years ago

She is from Canada because there is a park that is in Ontario, Canada that can be seen in one of her videos

Shaenon
4 years ago

David, please start tagging random posts “GamerGate” so GamerGaters will get all excited over their Google Alert going off and run over here, only to find nothing to pile on. This is hilarious.

GGers are champing at the bit to spin this as some sort of SJW outrage and also making jokes about Patton’s dead wife.

This, on the other hand, is just disgusting. But not surprising.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Dalillama

It is my understanding that there are still crypto-Jews in Spain and Portugal, who have been pretending to be Catholic and practicing Judaism in secret since the Alhambra Decree in 1493.

That is amazing!

Now that I think about it, I saw a movie at the San Francisco Film Festival years ago about Jews in Portugal. They had been cut off from the rest of the Jewish people for so long that when they came out of the closet they found out that their way of carrying out some of the rituals had slipped a little over the centuries. So I guess that those particular Portuguese Jews hadn’t been out of the closet for all that long.

At another year at the San Francisco Film Festival, I saw a movie about crypto-Jews in New Mexico. These were people who had heard occasional whispers in their families about them actually being Jews. When they decided to research their families’ history, it was an emotional, liberating process of reclaiming their identity.

caketastydelish
caketastydelish
4 years ago

I was the one who originally informed Furtelle about this girl. (I have an email exchange with him for poof).

I will say that while leafyishere is flawed, he’s not as bad as Furtelle is making him seem. First, leafy probably only wants her account reactivated so he has more opportunities to mock her. He mocks what he deems cringe worthy, and neo Nazis are both cringe worthy and deserve to be mocked. David Furtelle himself mocks these kinds of people after all.

I will also say while leafyishere has done some undefendable things in the past, he has at least apologized for them. As far as making fun of a bunch of neo-Nazi losers is concerned, I support leafy all the way. Some of them have given leafy DEATH THREATS because of his noble action to help get Evalion brought to justice. Neo Nazis were having a circle jerk around her videos, but after leafy brought attention to it everyone else was downvoting the videos and only upvoting the comments that brought attention to how disgusting she was.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ pitshade

Inquisition required a higher standard of proof

The Inquisition was the first tribunal in Europe to introduce the ‘presumption of innocence’ and the burden for the prosecution to prove its case. Up until then the best you could hope for (if they didn’t assume guilt) was a ‘neutral’ starting point.

bluecat
bluecat
4 years ago

@ Robert,

just as I was writing it, Chick tracts did come to mind. An extreme Protestant crank-magnet thing, perhaps?

Anecdotage again: I had a devoutly Roman Catholic uncle who worked as a printer in the old days of Fleet Street (he’d have started in about 1935 or so). The print unions then were masonic – you couldn’t join them without becoming a mason, and you couldn’t work without joining the union.

He had to go via his parish, then the head of the order which ran the parish, then the bishop, and finally the Cardinal to get the necessary dispensations.

So given that communists and catholics have at various times been forbidden to be masons, and that none of these has always been well-disposed to the Jews, it’s great cover… I mean, it’s pretty odd.

Orion
Orion
4 years ago

Jennifer,

Thank you for speaking up. I’ve been making the same case every time this comes up, and it’s been a lonely fight. I usually say something like “‘Freedom of speech’ is not a synonym for ‘the 1st amendment to the US constitution’. Freedom of speech is one of the civic virtues of liberal society. The 1st amendment is a law that protects that freedom from one type of interference.”

In this case I do think that YouTube did the right thing by taking down her channel. I don’t think any real harm was done to free speech, and if I should encounter any of these #freespeechfornazicupcakes people, I will defend YouTube by explaining why I think they did the right thing in this case.

What I won’t do is pretend that it’s inherently ridiculous to accuse a corporation of undermining free speech.

EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

The Inquisition in France, amusingly, came under criticism at the time for acquitting most of the people they inquisited, and for refusing to take bribes like a secular court. This was seen as an intolerable impediment to the workings of the machinery of justice as the secular community at the time understood it.

In Baziège, for example, there was a riot because the inquisitors found that some defendents were not actually Cathars after all, and the crowds (who had assembled for a good old-fashioned neighbour burning) refused to accept this verdict.

The other thing about the Inquisition that we forget is that Monty Python were wrong: in Spain it was the absolute rule that the Inquisition would always give you advance warning that they were coming, so you could put your affairs in order. They never arrived unexpected.

Everybody always expected the Inquisition. Their chief weapon was anticipation. Anticipation and clemency. Their two main weapons…

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

Really? The Inquisition announced they were coming and that worked? Because if some organization known for using some of the worst kinds of torture ever invented by humans told me it was coming, putting my affairs in order would consist of packing up my stuff and leaving town.

Latte Cat
Latte Cat
4 years ago

You shouldn’t be hesitant to link to Onision. He has admitted he was a giant sh*tbag about what he once thought about transgender people, has publicly apologised and since proven his views are now the complete opposite (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xQQUmi2H_o – this video refutes all transphobic arguments). Really, Onision is one of the most honest and true people on YouTube who supports all the right things, he needs to be promoted, not have his name tarnished any more than it is. He is also very openly and strongly a feminist.
Whereas Leafy, I can DEFINITELY understand the hesitation. A whiny manchild who makes money viciously bullying children and the mentally disabled on the internet is lower than scum.