Men’s Rights activists like to pretend that the wage gap between men and women is imaginary (it’s not), except when they can use it as an excuse to attack women.
Or, as in the case with the A Voice for Men meme above, a particular woman.
MRAs have had a hate-boner for Emma Watson ever since she helped the United Nations launch its global HeForShe campaign. Now they hate her even more for pointing out the actual true fact that male actors get paid more than their female counterparts for similar roles.
But the folks running A Voice for Men’s meme machine apparently don’t think any woman should be allowed to complain about the gender wage gap unless they are quite literally the poorest woman in the world.
I mean, if Emma Watson can’t complain about the gender wage gap because “the woman who puts her make up on” earns less than she does, her makeup artist can’t complain about the gender wage gap because she makes more than the nanny who takes care of her kids while she’s putting makeup on Emma Watson. (The median pay for Hollywood makeup artists, as of 2011, was about $88,000 a year; nannies earn considerably less than that.)
But, hey, the McDonald’s employee who takes the nanny’s order at the drive through makes less than the nanny, so the nanny can’t complain about a gender wage gap either.
It’s lower-paid-women-turtles all the way down.
The fact that some women earn more than some other women does not mean there is no gender wage gap. Nor does the fact that some women earn more than some men mean that men are the ones who are truly oppressed, an argument that former AVFM managing editor Dean Esmay actually tried to make during an ill-fated television appearance a couple of years ago.
The existence of one form of inequality (or oppression) does not mean that other forms of inequality (or oppression) don’t count. It just makes things more complicated. If MRAs were actually interested in anything beyond cheap rhetorical “gotchas” (that generally collapse the moment they meet the real world) they would know this. But they aren’t, so they don’t.
Brilliant work, MRA meme-makers! You have truly mastered the art of the self-own.
Men shouldn’t complain about shorter average lifespans because there are bugs who have a lifespan measured in days.
Men shouldn’t complain about paying for dinner because men before them HUNTED MAMMOTHS.
(Apparently).
MRAs shouldn’t complain about male suicide when they themselves are still incarnate.
AVFM has managed to outstupid its prior stupidity.
And that prior stupid bar was set quite high.
When I try to understand manosphere memes, I sometimes find myself regressing to a toddler’s sense of morality (where “right” = “what I want”). Viewed through that lens, this meme almost makes sense. “Hermione is sad because some boy has more ice cream than her, and it’s not fair. But this other girl has less ice cream than her, and Hermione doesn’t say that’s not fair, the poopy-head!”
Most of us develop beyond toddler reasoning, though.
Queen Elizabeth II has a higher income than my postman; THE WAGE GAP IS A MYTH!!!
Oprah’s apparently quite wealthy.
CHECKMATE, FEMINISTS!
Speaking of kitty-cat-centric misandry:
http://i.imgur.com/ycrmGp3.jpg
I’ve forced my neutered male cat to warm my lap.
Misandry upon misandry.
Nevermind that he swatted me until I let him up and is purring so hard that he’s actually drooling.
It’s misandry all the way down.
Isn’t it mismoggery?
We suffer from that a lot – our neighbour had their mog neutered a bit late and he’s quite tomcattish – lord of the back gardens and has been caught coming in to snaffling our mogs’ food (it is clearly delectable – organic cat biscuit from a local firm and very good for them).
He seems to suffer from catflap envy: our two come and go at will, whereas he and his two sidekicks (sidepaws?) are out of the house when the neighbour is at work.
We have actually considered offering to install a cat flap for them.
Emma Watson complaining that female actors are paid less than their male counterparts is as ridicule as if a male model complained about being paid less than a female model which is something I’ve strangely never heard.
Me being poor, having an opinion on these rich people issues and deciding to take the time to express it on this blog instead of trying to find a way to unpoor myself is even more ridiculous though.
When I was allowed to start dating, it was on the condition that I always, always, always pay for myself, lest the guy think he was “owed” something. The ultimate irony is that it was usually MRA types who objected. I had to thank my mom for providing me with such a great filter for dates.
Which makes sense. Given that she’s a woman celebrity, she needs to deal with the reality of tabloids and stalkers.
@leftwingfox
An openly feminist woman celebrity. If I got the shit she gets on the daily, I’d live offshore
http://cdn2.thegloss.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/tumblr_nnsr0fSLCZ1th2pr0o1_500.gif
Never see my ass again
My brain Spoonerized that into “We have actually considered offering to install a flat cap for them.”
I work a minimum wage job. Does that mean AVFM is no longer able to complain on my behalf or on the behalf of any other men who makes less than they do? Because that would be great.
Yes, intersectional feminism exists. Yes, people have critiqued Emma Watson being seen as a face of feminism due to representing a fairly privileged demographic. Yes, discussions about the wage gap need to move beyond pushing for more white middle class female CEOs and take lower paid women into account.
As ever, Men’s Rights are right on the pulse. No feminists have ever got around to discussing this *sarcasm*
@Zatar Here’s to hoping…
@ leftwingfox
I suspect she means privacy about finances rather than address though (not that there’s anything wrong with that IMHO)
It’s perhaps also worth noting that if you create a company to own a property and then just buy and sell the company (who’s sole asset is the property) then you only pay tax at 0.5% rather than SDLT (‘stamp duty’) at 4% so that can save you a pretty penny.
(All perfectly legal, just set up a deal like that for a client)
The irony is that this is the kind of logic that you feminists use whenever anyone who happens to be the eebul cis-het white male dares to express concerns. It is clear that feminists believe that so-called privilege overrides actual life circumstances. So white men always have it easy, and if they don’t, then they had better shut the fuck up so they don’t distract from the problems of women and minorities.
You will deny that this is what you believe, but your actions speak louder than your empty words. Every time white people speak, they are drowned out by the shrill whine of the feminist. Is it any wonder that people are fed up with such a hypocritical movement?
NecRoTroll
Oh look, an appropriately named necro-troll.
If you paid attention, Nec, you’d notice that what feminists argue is that lack of privilege on one axis (class, for example) doesn’t erase privilege on another axis (race, for example). So, if you compare a Latina woman and a white woman you’ll find the white woman is more likely to get a response to a job application, more likely to get a job offer, more likely to get paid more, less likely to be assumed part of the cleaning crew, etc. when compared to the Latina woman. The white woman being part of the same economic class as the Latina woman doesn’t mean she isn’t more privileged in those respects.
Dude, no. Just no.
Dude, have you actually looked at the comments section before you posted ?
No, don’t answer. That was a rhetorical question.
Don’t be so hard on Nec. The entire internet is the domain of shrill whiny feminists. If he wants his posts to even exist, he has no choice but to go to an old thread.