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Red Pillers blame “feminist floozies” for Muslim “invasion,” having sex with other guys

Ingrid Carlqvist: Not reactionary enought for Red Pillers, because woman
Ingrid Carlqvist: Not reactionary enought for Red Pillers, because woman

A couple of days ago, our old friend Stefan Molyneux– the garrulous, absurdly misogynistic YouTube philosopher king — chatted for an hour with Ingrid Carlqvist, a Swedish, er, journalist who has found many fans in the alt-right for her hateful attacks on Muslim refugees.

But it turns out that the reactionary Carlqvist — the author of such thoughtful works of journalism as “Sweden: Death by Immigration” and “Sweden: It Is Considered Racism Only If the Victims Are Not White” — isn’t reactionary enough for the fellas in the Red Pill subreddit.

Why? Because they’ve convinced themselves that the fervid anti-feminist Carlqvist is actually a feminist, or at least so tainted by the feminist beliefs they assume she held in the past that no amount of yelling about feminists can save her.

Also, they’re mad that as a teenager in the 1970s she went home with guys and had sex with them. Even worse, she sometimes went home with guys and then … refused to have sex with them!

The gracious gentleman who calls himself worldnewsrager set out the case against Carlqvist in an interminably long posting to The Red Pill subreddit, largely based on a comment she made some 45 minutes into her interview with Molyneux.

As the two discussed what could be done to “save” Sweden from the eeeeevil Muslim invasion, Molyneux evidently suggested that a lot of men “have been so beaten upon by feminism for so long, I think, at this point, many view it almost like saving their enemies from the consequences of their enemies’ own misconceptions and hostilities.”

Worldnewsrager noted that this was a sentiment he agreed with, adding that he “wouldn’t piss on a SJW to put them out.”

But Carlqvist disagreed. “Her response to Stefan’s argument was staggering,” worldnewsrager reports. She urged the men of Europe — or at least the non-Muslim ones — to “save Europe.”

“And when you do,” she said,

you will also crush feminism! And the women, they will be soooooooo sooooo thankful and grateful for saving europe. for saving their opportunities of being women, and being equal, but not being feminists. And they won’t be feminists anymore. … You gotta save Europe for us, and leave the feminists to me.. I will deal with them.

It was at this point, evidently, that the steam began to erupt from worldnewsrager’s ears.

I had to stop the tape there. I mean WHAT!? …  This f**king lifelong feminist has come to realize how deeply and how irrevocably the philosophy she believed in and perpetuated has F**KED UP an entire continent, and the only thing this “strong, independent don’t need no man, free-lover” does is DEMAND men fix it. DEMANDS.

“Free-lover?” you ask. Earlier in the interview, you see, Carlqvist shared

stories from the mid-70’s of being a young free-lover and stringing various dudes along, and then denying them sex at the last minute and them ‘being okay with it.’ She actually referred to that ‘era’ as ‘really, the golden age.’ The golden age of Cultural-Marxism I’m sure. So, as far as i can tell, she was fully on-board with the whole “New Society” ideology until only the last few years. 

And now she wants men to clean up the mess she made by HAVING (or not having) SEX WITH SOME DUDES IN THE 1970s?

Now, this likely childless, husbandless, waste of good white skin

Yes, he really did just call her a “waste of good white skin.”

Now, this likely childless, husbandless, waste of good white skin actually, like tries to shame men into what? Getting themselves killed doing what can only be assumed to be deporting the suspected million muslim immigrants. or overthrowing the government. And for what? So she is protected from the consequences of her life-choices, that she only now, once it’s hitting her in the face, realizes might have been in err?

So much for equality, strength and independence, right? When the metal meets the meat, these Western ‘feminists’ abandon their principles as fast as they adopted them. And demand that another generation of men throw themselves in the grinder on their behalf.

Naturally, the men of the Red Pill subreddit responded to worldnewsrager’s lovely post by giving it many hundreds of upvotes. And in the comments they set forth their own, equally thoughtful, analyses of the Swedish Problem, and how terrible women like Carlqvist caused it with their free-loving feminism.

The always sensible GayLubeOil won himself a few upvotes for this small outpouring of wisdom, which came complete with a lovely racist metaphor for rape:

I feel like women have an almost Biological need to cause problems for men. The more problems they cause the more opportunities they have for assessing men’s problem solving skills. …

The problem is that feminism has made women not worth the prize. So now women can deal with the consequences of their actions up to and including getting culturally enriched by Mohammed and friends on the streets of Stockholm.

RojoEscarlata dropped some bio-truths:

just women for you, you can’t blame them for doing exactly what we expect them to do. Running to men when sh*t hits the fan is literally one of their evolutionary instinctive impulses. 

And followed the bio-truths with some history truths:

Feminism wasn’t created by women, it’s just one of the ugly faces of the multicultural disease that is Marxism, women just happen to be always the ones to fall hardest for the equality meme, like those bonobos communist f**kers. 

Wait, what? How do communist bonobos fit into all this? Alas, he offers no explanation, and ends with:

TL;DR: women vote was a mistake

snobocracy won himself dozens of upvotes with this medical metaphor:

Feminism is literally AIDS.

These Muslims aren’t a problem to deal with. They’re superstitious, uneducated, illiterate, dependant on welfare and generally plain dumb to boot.

But our civilizational immune system, which would usually round up these criminal immigrants, has been stunted by feminists who have convinced the world that any form of masculine energy and will to protect your family and nation is evil.

aiguo888 pointed the finger of blame at a rather familiar scapegoat:

Jews are behind this and this is their desired effect. They want to destroy the caucasian race once and for all, which is what inevitably will happen when local men aren’t having kids anymore and aren’t willing to fight for their countries.

Yep, that’s right: Jews did Muslims! 

FLFTW16 managed to work the c-word into his analysis. No, not that c-word. The other one. The one that starts with “c” and ends with “uck.”

Sweden no longer belongs to the men, so it’s not even their country to save. They have been dispossessed of their ancestral lands. 

At this point the comment veers off into an Ayn Randian paean to property rights, before ending with this:

At this point I feel that Sweden ought to be forced to continue their program until they are utterly destroyed. The example of their hubris must serve as a reminder to uncucked European peoples to take better care what they advocate.

trudatness set forth a conspiracy theory so immense that, well, ok, I didn’t read the whole thing. With my glazed-over eyes, though, I did manage to spot references to globalists, well-funded feminists, academic postmodernism, and Mayer Amschel Rothschild.

And this bit, about Carlqvist:

So of course all this sh*t is miles over this feminist c**t’s head. All she cares about is being able to dress like a floozy and lead betas orbiters on for her own purposes. Only when that reality gets disrupted – her lizard brain now says FEMINISM BAD. She’s able to piece together that feminism is bringing Islamic fundamentalism to Europe and that is counter to her personal whims. She doesn’t have clue one on how to solve it … Her go to method of whining and getting thirsty SJW idiots to carry her water isn’t working. … Now she’s turning to Red Pilled men to do it. Same method, different target.

For our interests, we don’t really care if she and other women of her ilk dress like a floozies and play head games with dudes. We can handle that sh*t. Its the shattering of western society that has most of us concerned.

Well, all righty then.

Or should it be “alt-righty then?”

iLLprincipLeS was a bit more concise.

His comment was also the worst thing I’ve read on the Internet for some time, and I devote a good portion of my life to reading terrible things on the Internet. You may just want to skip it.

Ha, save yourself you f**king strong independent female!

I will piss in your mouth when you ask for some water while you are lying on the ground in the blood dripping from your own p***y that was just raped by the ones you brought in with your Refugees Welcome signs.

Perhaps even more astounding than the comment itself is this realization: iLLprincipLeS sees himself as one of the civilized ones.

When these guys go on about saving “civilization” from the “barbarians,” this is what they think is worthy of saving.

H/T —  r/TheBluePill

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Slutty Miss Havisham Penguin briefly known as Nady
Slutty Miss Havisham Penguin briefly known as Nady
5 years ago

I’m a strong independent woman who worries more what these hateful bigots bring. Please bring more of the Swedish model and I don’t dress to impress guys, I dress for myself. Which is so hard for these guys to understand! How could I not dress individually for every single man who walk past me. I mean all I have to do is walk into the nearest phonebox and…. Wait a second. This seems familiar somehow…..

weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo

Okay, hopefully this doesn’t get stuck in moderation for too long. I just had to add communist bonobo to my name!

WickedWitchofWhatever
WickedWitchofWhatever
5 years ago

“All she cares about is being able to dress like a floozy”
“For our interests, we don’t really care if she and other women of her ilk dress like a floozies and play head games with dudes.”

Ah. I thought floozies draped themselves in velvet and corsets while hanging around in 1890’s saloon bars, but it turns out they like the same cardigan and frock combos as many contemporary older ladies. Garments so sexually provocative that trudatness feels compelled to mention them multiple times. It makes me wonder how much women would need to be covered not to be considered sexually distracting to poor men.

Lars
5 years ago

David – can you actually watch a full Molyneux video? Most of them are two hours long!

14 Cats And Counting!
14 Cats And Counting!
5 years ago

Hmmm:

“Women vote was a mistake”

So was letting any of these guys within a 100 miles of a computer!

Snobocracy’s take on Muslims is that they’re “generally plain dumb to boot.” Speaking of generally plain dumb! The denizens of the manosphere are lucky I’m not the Prime Minister of Australia or they’d be getting a real booting (with a wing-tip shoe through an iron gate) ha!

Wow! This thing just writes itself 🙂

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
5 years ago

Wait, what? How do communist bonobos fit into all this?

I think there’s a missing comma.

Read it this way:

“Women just happen to be always the ones to fall hardest for the equality meme, like those bonobos, (mutter) communist fuckers.”

In this parse, “communist fuckers” can be read as an aside, and a succinct description of bonobo social structures.

So, how many of these dudes are Swedish? My guess would be “few to none.” Why do people always imagine that it’s okay to make political decisions for units outside their own? My parents do this all the fucking time with California, getting angry as hell because CA is making decisions that the ‘rents don’t like. I’m always having to remind them that they don’t live in California and what CA does has no impact on them. Which is exactly why they have, and should have, no say whatsoever in what CA does.

personalpest
personalpest
5 years ago

“her lizard brain now says FEMINISM BAD…”

Well, when it comes to thinking with your lizard brain, these guys are the experts. Although now that I think of it, that’s a horrible insult to lizards.

calmdown
calmdown
5 years ago

MRAs: We men did everything! WE HUNTED THE MAMMOTH!” we did all the science and progress and women did nothing but make babies! Those were the good old days! Only men should do things, women shouldn’t have education or voting rights!

Racist FeMRA: “Ok, You gotta save Europe for us, and if you save women from the evil Muslims, grateful former feminists will worship your boner, blah blah blah (everything MRA”s secretly want to happen) then everyone’s happy right?

MRAs: “OMG how DARE you expect men to DO things! We aren’t your slaves you foul Harpy! Even making ANY effort to achieve something we say we want is MISANDRY!!!”

Non Sarcastic: It seems like denying sex at any point in time is indeed any female’s greatest crime. And anything else they say they want will never be good enough. Not that I feel bad for this awful woman only being able to appeal to some, and not all bigots. (#notallbigots?)

calmdown
calmdown
5 years ago

it turns out they like the same cardigan and frock combos as many contemporary older ladies. Garments so sexually provocative that trudatness feels compelled to mention them multiple times.

http://shopnycdaily.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Cable-Knit-Sweater.png

Just Look at THIS Land’s End Floozie!! I have never seen a more Communist bonobo.

katz
5 years ago

Now, this likely childless, husbandless, waste of good white skin

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/tardis/images/7/79/Cassandra_closeup_The_End_of_the_World.jpg

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

Someone needs to send these guys a dictionary where “analysis” is not defined as “seeking high and low for anything that can be twisted to support my favorite theory of life, the universe, and everything.”

Tulse
Tulse
5 years ago

And on top of the more substantive evil:

Feminism is literally AIDS.

No, it literally isn’t. And the fact that these evil idiots get even the basics of vocabulary wrong figurative makes me blow my top.

Judas Peckerwood
5 years ago

Muslims and Marxists and bonobos! Oh my!

calmdown
calmdown
5 years ago

@katz: Brilliant

@Tulse:

No, it literally isn’t.

Thanks, that was bothering the fuck out of me too.

Eyes on the Right
5 years ago

Feminism is literally AIDS.

*backs away slowly*

History Nerd
History Nerd
5 years ago

These Muslims aren’t a problem to deal with. They’re superstitious, uneducated, illiterate, dependant on welfare and generally plain dumb to boot.

Most of the Muslims I know have graduate degrees in some STEM field and they’re definitely not on welfare (not that needing welfare is bad or anything).

Joel
Joel
5 years ago

+1 for Dr. Who reference Katz.

Just wanted to day that calmdown has nailed it. Perfect summation of the MRA mindset.

Bina
5 years ago

Feminism is “literally AIDS”? No, an unchecked, untreated HIV infection leading to full-blown immune deficiency is literally AIDS.

And weren’t they not so long ago saying feminism is literally cancer? Make up your minds, bozos. It can’t be both. And in fact, it’s literally neither. It’s a tool of analysis for understanding the oppression of women in sexist societies. And it’s a means of fighting back against said oppression. That’s literally all feminism is.

(The Red Pill, on the other hand, is literally Teh Stoopid.)

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
5 years ago

Sweden no longer belongs to the men

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CPphazor
CPphazor
5 years ago

>Good white skin

Now I don’t know about Sam Harris or that bunch, but it’s a fucking lie when people say that Islamophobia is never unwarranted or racial.

Ray of Rays
Ray of Rays
5 years ago

Because they’ve convinced themselves that the fervid anti-feminist Carlqvist is actually a feminist, or at least so tainted by the feminist beliefs they assume she held in the past that no amount of yelling about feminists can save her.

Well, to be fair, a staggeringly large number of people, women and men, are tainted by feminist beliefs that took root in the past.

…wait, did I say “tainted?” I meant “benefited, whether they realize it or not.”

Lars
5 years ago

@weirwood – why did you need to add communist bonobo? Any why bonobo as opposed to chimp?

calmdown
calmdown
5 years ago

Respects is earn 2: Women vote was a mistake.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

@Lars
Because they hate the concept of casual sex.

Lygeia
Lygeia
5 years ago

So, some blond woman, who is alleged to have been a bit of a tease in her younger years, is the end of the world for these women-hating men who can’t get laid? But the Muslim invasion is okay and “not a problem”?

Do I have this right?

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

@Lygeia
Nah they those people too, they switch hates to whatever’s more convenient.

GenJones
GenJones
5 years ago

Thank goodness these guys don’t represent western civilization, because if they did, seriously please activate the launch codes.

Bina
5 years ago

Thank goodness these guys don’t represent western civilization, because if they did, seriously please activate the launch codes.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/adventuretimewithfinnandjake/images/8/8c/Nope.gif

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

“When the metal meets the meat”. You mean, like eating bacon with a fork?

(I know what they mean, I’m just refusing to acknowledge it, because it’s an awkward and pretentious phrase that demands to be made fun of. They think they’re such revolutionaries, but they wouldn’t last an hour in a riot.)

Also, I wasted some good white skin in the shower with a loofah the other day.

LindsayIrene
5 years ago

I have not been able to read beyond the bonobo comment because it is so frigging funny.

(I wanted to add some bonobo gifs, but all the ones I found were. well, kinda porn-y. Those damn communists….)

varalys the dark
5 years ago

Ugh, pasty white woman here. I deliberately lived in the predominantly Muslim parts of Bristol and Manchester for the best part of a decade and just find it incredibly hard to match the polite, friendly and warm interactions I had with them with the horrendous bogeymen being spun by the wider media. Feh.

Blackrising
Blackrising
5 years ago

God, the sheer racism these people are capable of is astounding. A ‘waste of good white skin’? It’s SKIN. It is literally a layer of cells. A biologically important layer of cells, but still a layer.of.cells.

Ugh, I’m angry. And I sure hope none of these men ever manage to get a woman into bed with them because they sure as heck don’t deserve that kind of attention from anyone.

Let them stew in their own hatred, I say.

Axecalibur
Axecalibur
5 years ago

Sweden is the ancestral land of men? So what’s the ancestral land of women? Are boys included as part of men, or do they have their own homeland?
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1vbxgCxl81r8cr9q.gif

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

Lets hear it for the communist bonobos, and isn’t it odd that a semi-accurate fact managed to make it though the fog of hateful nonsense?

David, I’m not sure what kind of control you have over the adverts, but I just wanted to say that, in the middle of the page is a section which I thought at first was part of the quote, and then realised was an advert.

It reads like this (bolding in the original):

Do you want to date younger women? My name is Julie and I’m a younger woman who loves to date older men. I recently stumbled upon one weird trick that makes younger women like me eagerly want to date you, even approaching you first, no matter your looks, age or income. To help out other older men who like to date younger women, I put my trick into an illustrated report that is yours for the asking.

It’s illustrated by a head shot of a young Asian woman.

Not sure what that “one weird trick” is likely to be…

EmpressRat
EmpressRat
5 years ago

In case anyone is wondering, as someone who lives in Sweden, we are not in fact on the verge of horrific collapse due to feminist hubris. Sweden is in fact one of the richest, happiest countries in the world and the only thing threatening that is people like Carlqvist and her ilk.

Of course, I am obligated to say this, being a Jew and all. But I still thought you all should know. Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ll get back to counting my money and plotting the spread of Cultural Marxism. Oh, but before I go, any requests? I’m meeting with the Super Secret Jew Alliance for Corrupting the West at 4; I can see if they’re amenable.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@bluecat

I recently stumbled upon one weird trick that makes younger women like me eagerly want to date you, even approaching you first, no matter your looks, age or income.

Hmm. Let me hazard some guesses as to what one weird trick would make young women eagerly, enthusiastically, desperately!!!! approach an old guy for dating.

Hypnosis? (‘Cause the manosphere is fully of guys whose photos seem to say, You are getting sleepy . . . )

Does the old dude carry a powerful magnet that pulls her over to his side of the street by her dental fillings?

Stockholm syndrome? (The trick is the kidnapping part.)

To help out other older men who like to date younger women, I put my trick into an illustrated report that is yours for the asking.

That Julie — always thinking of the needs of old guys!

And suddenly it’s her trick! (Ariel Castro, the Cleveland kidnapper, taught her that trick.)

It’s yours “for the asking” + for a recurring monthly charge on your credit card.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ bluecat

Not sure what that “one weird trick” is likely to be…

Pick a card; any card….

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

Cheers David!

It is enjoyably mockable, mind you.

Unfortunately, I can’t help thinking that “approaching you first” will be read by some as “being female within my visual or auditory field”.

The other word which springs to mind is “rohypnol”…

ETA: this phrase “one weird trick”. I’m seeing it a lot lately, on all sorts of crappy adverts. Is it some sort of NLP code? For me it functions as a “you really don’t want to click on this” label, which is handy.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
5 years ago

In the end, it’s never about feminism for these guys. It’s women. All women.

Also, it’s amazingly ironic how they pretend to care about rape when they want to blame it on Muslims, yet in the same fucking sentence they literally say they want to rape women for not doing their bidding.

I’ve talked about this before on WHTM, but the fact is we have not seen the major increase in violent crime, particularly rape, as would be predicted by this alt-right racist narrative, considering the massive number of refugees we’ve received in the last few years.

Statistics on reported rape are up since 2005 due to a change in the legal language, broadening the definition of rape. Since then it’s been fairly stable, except for a weird spike in 2013. Since then it’s come back down to average levels.

Other violent crime has been low in later years.

The facts simply don’t support this theory.

pitshade
pitshade
5 years ago

I wonder if this weird trick is the same thing that the woman learned in the ‘dollar shave club,’ or the new rule that keeps surprising drivers?

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

@IP That’s because they don’t believe it’s possible for white men to rape women. They think white men are the ultimate prize. Ergo, all women want white men, therefore consent is automatically implied. To them, rape is the scenario that *they* do not want (scary brown guy hiding in the alley with a knife, waiting to defile “their” women).

As for “one weird trick”, I bet it involves sitting through a pauseless 15 minute video and typing in a credit card number. I feel bad for people with medical issues who get scammed by clickbait, but creepy dudes in search of cheat codes to unlock 16 year olds deserve exactly what they get.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
5 years ago

@Buttercup

Apart from medical scams, one type of scamming that really pisses me off is when they bait unemployed people with the possibility of finding work. With the job market as it has been in the last decade or so, it’s been difficult to properly vet employers before replying to ads. I’ve wasted so much time applying for jobs that never existed or barely existed, or was never a job with any sort of job security or living wage. It’s absolutely infuriating. My nature is such that I’m extremely impatient and lack any significant personal ambition, so this sort of frustration just makes me give up and accept being unemployed indefinitely.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

@EmpressRat –

Oh, but before I go, any requests? I’m meeting with the Super Secret Jew Alliance for Corrupting the West at 4; I can see if they’re amenable.

More loofahs?

I’ve got to get on with wasting my good white skin, after all.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

re: ads: On this site, the middle-ads been all “What can be done to STOP HILLARY CLINTON?” *red-shaded picture of Clinton scowling* when I’m on my laptop.
(The side ads are for, like, Stitch Fix, web dev stuff, and graduate school – more consistent with the other ads that my not-disabled cookies allow to follow me around the web.)

I have no idea why that shows up. On my laptop, I pretty much only meal plan (don’t judge me), hop on FB, stream videos, or waste time here.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
5 years ago

I think because there’s a lot of posts mocking Trump supporters. Whatever algorithm they use thinks that because he’s mentioned a lot on this site, this site must be conservative.

Inkswitch
Inkswitch
5 years ago

Okay, hopefully this doesn’t get stuck in moderation for too long. I just had to add communist bonobo to my name!

@weirwoodtreehugger: communist bonobo darn, beat me to it X3

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@pitshade

I wonder if this weird trick is the same thing that the woman learned in the ‘dollar shave club,’ or the new rule that keeps surprising drivers?

I’m pretty sure that this one weird trick will leave me speechless.

Also, my jaw will drop.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Re: Ads

Taboola must use the same algorithm as YouTube.

Ads: “Hey, I see you use the word “Women” a lot. Ten sexiest women alive! Five celebrities who are ugly without makeup! Eight things that guys hate in a woman! You’ll never believe why this silly little girl dumped her perfect millionaire boyfriend!*”

Me: “This is a feminist site.”

Ads: “Oh, okay. Click here to donate to Donald Trump’s campaign!*”

*All based on actual ads I’ve seen here.

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