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Butt-centric author Chuck Tingle out-tingles Vox Day, invites Zoe Quinn to the Hugos

Tingle, triumphant
Tingle, triumphant

I can’t claim to have figured out all of the multiple levels of trollery going on here but it looks like the butt-obsessed and surreally self-referential science fiction pseudo-erotica writer Chuck Tingle has just gotten the better of Vox Day.

You might even say that Vox has been cucked, if you were the sort of crappy person who thought “cuck” was a clever insult.

Tingle, known for such butt-related novellas as Pounded in the Butt By My Own Butt — and its even more circular sequel Pounded In The Butt By My Book Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt — was one of the names put forward for a Hugo award this year on Vox Day’s Rabid Puppies slate, an ongoing attempt to derail the Hugo awards by basically stuffing the ballot box with titles the rabidly bigoted and reactionary Vox approves of.

With Vox’s help, Tingle’s Space Raptor Butt Invasion did indeed garner a spot on the Hugo shortlist. But in a plot twist that must have shocked the VOXMAN, the ungrateful Mr. Tingle started furiously trolling Vox on Twitter.

And then Tingle kicked it up a notch:

BOOM.

Quinn quickly hopped aboard the Tingle Express.

Advantage, Tingle and Quinn.

NOTE: Added a bit to my “cuck” line to clarify why I even used the word.

 

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History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

Larry Correia’s work is generally regarded as pulpy (e.g., action and adventure and somewhat cliched storylines, not necessarily anything wrong with that). It’s gotten relatively good reviews, including by people on the left like John Scalzi. But there’s been more of a move towards giving awards to works considered more “literary” and convention breaking in SF and Fantasy.

I don’t think pulpy works should never get a Hugo. It’s just that Correia’s work is good but it’s not outstanding pulp SF. Of course, he couldn’t settle for having his own fan base and got involved with the worst possible crowd.

ColeYote
ColeYote
4 years ago
hugseverycat
hugseverycat
4 years ago

I can’t believe I watched that whole video of the guy reading Slammed in the Butt by my Hugo Nomination.

It was worth it.

MayaScientist
MayaScientist
4 years ago

The best Tingle tweet I think was actually this one, “Voxman plans his next attack”

https://twitter.com/ChuckTingle/status/728351471821955072

Look at the blog post that is being written there. 😀 That is soooo true to from for gaters/MRAs/vox that I fully expect at least 4 different blogs about the Tingle situation arguing exactly that.

Ben
Ben
4 years ago

History Nerd:

I think, where it all fell down, is that Correia had a bad time at Worldcon that, together with his failure to win an award, was incontrovertible proof to him of a “whisper campaign” against him. When his attempt to counter these hidden detractors foundered, it was just proof of a BIGGER conspiracy against EVERYONE.

I feel like people prone to that kind of thinking often fall into the wrong crowd. At least, seeing Correia argue with George R.R. Martin last year, it seems almost inevitable. The man has a very unfriendly relationship with reality.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Lorcan Nagle:

Torgesen’s posts about the slates became increasingly angry and inconsistent. At one time he literally complained that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover.

I feel I need to highlight this, because some people unfamiliar with the puppyverse will probably read this and think “Lorcan Nagle is one of those people who misuse the word ‘literally'”. But no. Torgersen really really did that. For real! He wrote a whole rant about how, in the good old days, if you saw a book with a spaceship on the cover, you knew you were in for a “rousing space adventure featuring starships and distant, amazing worlds”. But nowadays that book with the spaceship cover may contain feels, and thus SF is ruined. It was genuinely amazing.

Misha
Misha
4 years ago

I don’t really understand the ‘Devilman’ and Matrix references, but Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt is the single greatest title for anything ever.

Chuck Tingle, you are a gift.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago
Inkswitch
Inkswitch
4 years ago

I swear I read this article 3 times and still am not sure I understood.
Vox trolled the Hugo by submitting a troll book, which the Hugo nominated to troll itself (?), then the writer started trolling Vox by inviting the person who Vox liked to troll to receive the prize.
That’s the situation, if i’m understanding.

@Chiomara
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/531/557/a88.jpg

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

Misha:
Go to Amazon.com and look up his other titles. That one is nothing compared to some of the others.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Tessa

“Breaking the Fourth Butt”

😀

pitshade
pitshade
4 years ago

@Imaginary Petal

It’s a pity that wasn’t in the women hiking thread as the cat is so obviously taking a selfie.

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

@Imaginary Petal:
Buttception: A butt within a butt within a butt.
Oh, and My Ass is Haunted by the Gay Unicorn Colonel

And his newer stuff has “From Hugo Award Nominated Author.”
So are the actual stories any good?

Misha
Misha
4 years ago

Misha:
Go to Amazon.com and look up his other titles. That one is nothing compared to some of the others.

“Glazed By The Gay Living Doughnuts”.



… HE IS PRECIOUS. PRESERVE HIM AT ALL COSTS.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

“Pounded In The Butt By My Irrational Bigoted Fear Of Humans Who Were Born As Unicorns Using A Human Restroom”

“Feeling The Bern In My Butt”

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

“Turned Gay By The Existential Dread That I May Actually Be A Character In A Chuck Tingle Book.”

He’s the Dali of gay pornfic.

Thiazin red
Thiazin red
4 years ago

@ History Nerd

But they complain just as loudly when something fun and non-literary like Redshirts wins.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

Yes, but Redshirts is by Scalzi, who, for reasons I’ve never been able to discern, is supreme leader of the SJWs. At least, you would get that impression from the obsession that Voxman and his dread ilk have for Scalzi.

Aerinea
Aerinea
4 years ago

@Moggie
Yeah, they hate Scalzi something awful. They hate his ties to the Hugo awards, they hate his open feminism, they hate his success, and they hate that he’s doing pretty well, all things considered.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

Ben

Yeah. Correia was already relatively successful as a Fantasy/SF author and I’m not aware of anyone who thinks his work is actually bad (like, say, L. Ron Hubbard’s Mission Earth books). It’s true that other works of similar quality have gotten undeserved awards, but that doesn’t mean Correia should get an award. There was no conspiracy against him.

He’s basically ruined his career in mainstream Fantasy/SF by associating with people like Vox.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

Redshirts isn’t really pulp, it’s a well done parody, and it’s probably really offensive to some of the people who are into right wing military SF. Nevermind that Scalzi gave relatively good reviews to Correia and other conservative authors.

YoullNeverGuess
YoullNeverGuess
4 years ago

I don’t get the Kenna Reaves, proud dad thing at all. What does the Matrix have to do with anything? Please explain.

Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
4 years ago

So many butts.

Dalillama
4 years ago

@ History Nerd

It’s just that Correia’s work is good but it’s not outstanding pulp SF. Of

It would be dramatically improved if he didn’t spend about one page in three lovingly describing every component of the protagonist’s gun, down to the screws that hold it together. (This is an exaggeration, but not much of one).

@Moggie

For real! He wrote a whole rant about how, in the good old days, if you saw a book with a spaceship on the cover, you knew you were in for a “rousing space adventure featuring starships and distant, amazing worlds”.

And, speaking as someone who’s been reading SF about as long as Brad Torgersen, he’s so staggeringly wrong I have to wonder what SF he’s actually been reading. I mean, sure, there’s always been some SF that’s just about whiz bang rayguns and pulpy space adventure, but that’s never been all or even a majority of the genre.
Take, for instance, Hammer’s Slammers, a well-known military SF series which began when Torgersen was about 5. Look at the cover:comment image
Hovertank firing a big laser

So, look inside, and it’s full of tough as nails space mercenaries driving nuclear hover tanks, and laser gun battles abound. What it’s actually about, though, is the futility of war and the horrible effects it has on the bodies and minds of those who suffer through it, soldier and civilian alike. (Also, while there’s still a heavy straight white dude bias, it has a fairly diverse cast.)

Shaenon
4 years ago

I think, where it all fell down, is that Correia had a bad time at Worldcon that, together with his failure to win an award, was incontrovertible proof to him of a “whisper campaign” against him.

Specifically, he was nominated for the Campbell Award, given to the best new writer of the year. His novel Monster Hunter International lost out to Lev Grossman’s The Magicians. Clearly the only possible explanation for this miscarriage of justice was a liberal conspiracy, because we know which of those works stood the test of time.

The Sad Puppies leadership includes a lot of so-so writers pissed that they have successful careers but haven’t been crowned Best Scifi Writers Ever while the ghost of Robert Heinlein gives them blowjobs and their creative rivals apologize for being feminists and sodomites. As someone who writes friggin’ awesome SF and works hard at the craft, it’s pretty obnoxious to watch these babies throw tantrums over stuff like “only” getting a Campbell nomination.

Robert
Robert
4 years ago

Chuck Tingle’s tweets read like a Dr. Bronner/Francis E. Dec mashup. I haven’t worked up the nerve to read his long form* work, but I’m sure it’s equally impressive.

I’ve read “Redshirts”; I was expecting to enjoy it, but not as much as I did.

*I typed ‘long firm work’ three times.

katz
4 years ago

He wrote a whole rant about how, in the good old days, if you saw a book with a spaceship on the cover, you knew you were in for a “rousing space adventure featuring starships and distant, amazing worlds”. But nowadays that book with the spaceship cover may contain feels, and thus SF is ruined. It was genuinely amazing.

Back in the day, I owned this edition of Tales from the White Hart. You know how many spaceships are in that book? Zero.

http://images.paperbackswap.com/l/24/5624/9780345015624.jpg

katz
4 years ago

Mid-century sci-fi, especially magazines, was notorious for using goofy stock artwork that had nothing to do with the contents and was often baffling in its own right. It is the subject of much well-deserved mockery.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Shaenon | May 7, 2016 at 1:58 pm
The Sad Puppies leadership includes a lot of so-so writers pissed that they have successful careers but haven’t been crowned Best Scifi Writers Ever while the ghost of Robert Heinlein gives them blowjobs and their creative rivals apologize for being feminists and sodomites. As someone who writes friggin’ awesome SF and works hard at the craft, it’s pretty obnoxious to watch these babies throw tantrums over stuff like “only” getting a Campbell nomination.

I know there are women Puppies, but I can’t help but feel like a lot of their entitlement stems from the Christian cishet white dude variety that a lot of them seem to have.

brian
brian
4 years ago

Also, gotta make some real comment here:
I hate, hate, HATE that this Puppies bullshit is still going on, and hate that there’s actual, full-on harassment happening in addition to the slate-voting and crap. I really hope that the Hugo’s get some rules changes pushed through to at least eliminate that part of it.
But, given how shitty it all is, I LOVE this Chuck Tingle counter-trolling. Tingle is a goddamn treasure, and I really hope that he actually wins because that, and Quinn accepting the award for him, would be such an excellent slap in the face to the Puppies and GamerGate.

pitshade
pitshade
4 years ago

@ katz

Thanks for the link. The awful both pulls and repels.

teiresias
teiresias
4 years ago

ipoundedvoxdayinthebutthard.tumblr.com (NOT REAL)

Because of course it would be on Tumblr, not Blogspot, like the original.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

I loved Chris Foss’s 1970s cover art, even though it usually bore little or no relation to the text. I don’t need a picture to tell me what the book is about: that’s what the blurb is for! A colourful Foss spaceship on the cover is just a bonus!

katz
4 years ago

I’m not saying we should turn this into a bad sci-fi cover thread. I’m also not saying we shouldn’t.

http://www.goodshowsir.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Blood_Sport.jpg

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
4 years ago

There’s a bimbo on the cover of my book!
There’s a bimbo on the cover of my book!
She is blonde and she is sexy;
She is nowhere in the text. She
Is a bimbo on the cover of my book!

There’s a castle on the cover of my book.
There’s a castle on the cover of my book.
Every knight is fit for battle,
But the action’s in Seattle.
There’s a castle on the cover of my book.

Sheila Crosby
4 years ago

@Rachael, “If you were a dinosaur…” is an awesome story. I’m very sorry to hear about the harassment, but this is an awesome way to respond to it. I hope I’ll be able to contribute to your fundraiser.

History Nerd
History Nerd
4 years ago

In any case, authors like Isaac Asimov, Robert Heinlein, and Arthur C. Clarke definitely weren’t pulp authors in terms of style. Probably something closer to what the Sad Puppies are thinking of would be Battlefield Earth (the book, not the movie).

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
4 years ago

@Katz
That guy has the perfect “Oh god, you seriously want to read this? Are you absolutely sure, I feel so sorry for you.”

pitshade
pitshade
4 years ago

Took me awhile to remember the blog with bad covers… and of course it’s the source of katz’ glorious images.

Shaenon
4 years ago

Back in the day, I owned this edition of Tales from the White Hart. You know how many spaceships are in that book? Zero.

Brad Torgersen is about my age, and I remember often being confused by the inappropriate spaceship covers on SF paperbacks when I was growing up. For instance, this was my edition of Speaker for the Dead:
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Imagine young Torgersen opening this book, expecting a rousing space adventure, and getting a psychological drama about the fractured relationship between a Hispanic colony on an alien planet and the friendly but inscrutable native species. It is in fact the adult Torgersen’s worst nightmare, a “story merely about racial prejudice and exploitation, with interplanetary or interstellar trappings.”

He must have been so triggered.

(Just kidding. I imagine the Puppies give Speaker for the Dead a pass because the author hates gayness.)

And very few covers of Ursula LeGuin’s A Wizard of Earthsea warn sensitive young Puppies that they’ll be reading about black people.
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Shaenon
4 years ago

Looking for Torgersen’s original stupid blog post led me to this old RPG.net thread, which is full of awesome WTF science fiction covers.

It also contains this awesome comment: “Is Sad Puppies just some sort of singularity of stuff I hate in sci-fi fandom now?”

Ben
Ben
4 years ago

I remember lending a friend an older edition of Iain M. Banks’ Use of Weapons. He returned it mostly unread, having decided that a book with a battleship on the cover was worthy of his attention but not a book with a chair in front of that battleship, even if there was a gun lying in front of it. I didn’t have the heart to explain how wrong he was.

http://hermiene.net/img/books/109_front.jpg

There are multiple editions of Use of Weapons, mostly in languages other than English, that actually give away the deal with the chair entirely. That totally gets me down, the reveal is so awful and so good!

radiojane
radiojane
4 years ago

The Related Works category is a total cluster this year, I’m finding solace in the fact that VD himself did all that heavy lifting to place that magnificent Tingle Trojan horse inside his own lines. Hehehe

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
4 years ago

Rachel S
May 6, 2016 at 4:16 pm
Unfortunately, they are not just being little shits. Although Tingle has been the most attention-grabbing nomination, they have also put things on the ballot that are intended to harass authors they don’t like, including one that has a note from the publisher on it saying I should be killed.

I am so sorry to hear that. These are just the meanest little shits and they don’t deserve any platform for their bullying. Luckily this should be the final year they can play these games of theirs with the Hugos. Best of luck to you, and I quite liked “If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love”.

My favorite retelling of the whole Sad/Rabid Puppies debacle has been Philip Sandifer’s Guided by the Beauty of Their Weapons: An Analysis of Theodore Beale and His Supporters. Recently Sandifer also will write on Vox and GamerGate in his upcoming book Neoreaction a Basilisk with a preview of it here.

I have to say, there has been one positive effect of the Sad Puppies on me: convincing me that I want to—need to—write the “message fiction” they so decry, wrapped up in the derring-do they so love. I want to write space opera where children are given time to choose their genders (or choose not to have any gender) and superhero epics that reflect on issues of sex and race. I want to be pulpy but with things to think about in there too.

guest
guest
4 years ago

@Rabukurafuto Sandifer’s essay had been on my to-read list, but thanks for the link, I’m reading it now. ‘Fascism as an aesthetic’ is a useful framing.

Cerberus
Cerberus
4 years ago

YoullNeverGuess-

I’m 98% sure it’s a two-fold joke on both Voxman’s love of taking pictures of himself dressed all in black, looking moody or faux-badass, using things like sunglasses in a similar way as moody teenagers in the early 00s did after the Matrix.

That as well as Voxman’s love of red-pill philosophy and the general Man-o-sphere’s love affair with a movie trilogy they remember mostly for making trenchcoats cool rather than for being the thinly veiled allegory of someone figuring out they’re trans.

I think that whole notion of kid trying to play act cool in black leather is also the point of his series of gifs of scenes from Grandma’s Boy. Aka, it’s his way of saying Voxman is an overgrown “edgelord” teen still trying to cling to his Matrix-esque reinvention of himself as “cool” way past the point when it would at all be excusable by age.

Though this is all speculation based on the gifs used afterwards and the photos selected by Tingle.

Also, I love the idea of calling Theodore by the name of Voxman from here on out.

Rabukurafuto
Rabukurafuto
4 years ago

guest
May 8, 2016 at 2:36 am
@Rabukurafuto Sandifer’s essay had been on my to-read list, but thanks for the link, I’m reading it now. ‘Fascism as an aesthetic’ is a useful framing.

You’re welcome. The book of the same name expands on the essay quite a bit with a more in-depth look at neo-reaction and discussion of how the Hugos turned out in the end.

Ledasmom
Ledasmom
4 years ago

“Explain the Puppy/Hugo Kerfuffle in Two Paragraphs(Or Fewer)” would make a good party game if it weren’t all so relentlessly depressing. I had been entirely prepared to give the Sads a pass this year, until two of ’em decided to excoriate Steve Davidson for an intemperate comment he made about the pups on Facebook. A comment, mind you, that Davidson quickly agreed was out of line, that he offered to delete, and that he made on the day that he found out that his wife had metastatic cancer.
That sort of put me off.
Note: I am speaking of two of the actual Sad Puppy organizers for this year, in actual posts on Mad Genius Club, not random puppy commenters.