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Butt-centric author Chuck Tingle out-tingles Vox Day, invites Zoe Quinn to the Hugos

Tingle, triumphant
Tingle, triumphant

I can’t claim to have figured out all of the multiple levels of trollery going on here but it looks like the butt-obsessed and surreally self-referential science fiction pseudo-erotica writer Chuck Tingle has just gotten the better of Vox Day.

You might even say that Vox has been cucked, if you were the sort of crappy person who thought “cuck” was a clever insult.

Tingle, known for such butt-related novellas as Pounded in the Butt By My Own Butt — and its even more circular sequel Pounded In The Butt By My Book Pounded In The Butt By My Own Butt — was one of the names put forward for a Hugo award this year on Vox Day’s Rabid Puppies slate, an ongoing attempt to derail the Hugo awards by basically stuffing the ballot box with titles the rabidly bigoted and reactionary Vox approves of.

With Vox’s help, Tingle’s Space Raptor Butt Invasion did indeed garner a spot on the Hugo shortlist. But in a plot twist that must have shocked the VOXMAN, the ungrateful Mr. Tingle started furiously trolling Vox on Twitter.

And then Tingle kicked it up a notch:

BOOM.

Quinn quickly hopped aboard the Tingle Express.

Advantage, Tingle and Quinn.

NOTE: Added a bit to my “cuck” line to clarify why I even used the word.

 

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Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

… Holy crap. I’d heard about this in one of the other threads, but I didn’t realise Chuck Tingle was that Chuck Tingle. HAH!

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
4 years ago

This was a ride.

So I learned Chuck Tingle was nominated for a Hugo. Funny.

Then Chuck Tingle wrote a short story about being pounded in the butt by his Hugo Nomination. Hilarious!

Learning his nomination was in protest of a lovely short story about the lover of a hate crime victim, not so funny.

Learning Chuck Tingle is trolling Vox Day in response, and we’re back to hilarious again.

Chuck Tingle is a god-damned treasure. 😀

Lady_Zombie
Lady_Zombie
4 years ago

I feel a bit better about the Hugos with this. Well not really, considering what’s behind all the fuckery. BUT! It appears the Tingle situation is working out better than hoped.

You know Day will still claim victory and that he knew what would happen all along and the Es-Jay-Double U’s fell right into his trap, wormy little fascist theocrat that he is.

I have voting privileges and I haven’t decided how to proceed.

Incidentally, this bullshit? Is also going on in the horror literature community.

Nobody can ever have nice things.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

Yep. As I mentioned elsewhere, this is the same Chuck Tingle who wrote Oppressed In The Butt By My Inclusive Holiday Coffee Cups, which was basically taking the piss on all the people claiming that Starbucks doing red ‘holiday cups’ without obvious Christmas imagery last year was part of the ‘War on Christmas’.

Anybody who thought Chuck Tingle would be willing to support somebody like Vox Day (who’s more the sort of person complaining that there is a ‘War on Christmas’ to start with) wasn’t paying attention.

The general assumption is that Tingle’s book was nominated as a slap at ‘If You Were a Dinosaur, My Love’ from the previous year, likely without any further actual research on the Rabid Puppies side beyond ‘Hah, this will make them all look stupid!’ It does seem to have rather badly backfired…

katz
4 years ago

Chuck Tingle is a gift to humankind.

Meanwhile, the Locus Awards were being touted as the way a SFF award should be run…but the YA nominees were all dudes, including one guy who got nominated twice, even though the age category is 80% women and some of the nominees weren’t even YA.

Honestly, that bugs me more than the Puppies. They’re just being little shits, but aggressively ignored unconscious bias is a real problem.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

Slammed in the Butt by the Living Leftover Chocolate Chip Cookies from My Kitchen Cabinet is more thought provoking and interesting than anything Vox Day has ever written.

Also, I’m pretty sure most of Chuck Tingles stuff is free so there’s your summer reading list, kiddos.

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
4 years ago

Pounded in the butt by Chuck Tingle’s God-damned Treasure.

That one’s free, you magnificent bastard.

banned@4chan.org
banned@4chan.org
4 years ago

Up until reading this article, I could have sworn Chuck Tingle was an algorithm. Like one of those newspaper-article-writing AIs, but repurposed for pulpy gay erotica.

He’s human?!

…and clever?!

guest
guest
4 years ago

If you want to hear the latest Chuck Tingle, with bonus fan anecdotes, check this out:

I admit I’ve enjoyed being introduced to the work of Chuck Tingle…but it doesn’t make up for the fact that a friend of mine’s work should have been nominated in the Related Work category but every single nomination in that category this year is a fake.

Also, what’s taking the vote counters in London so long?

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

but it doesn’t make up for the fact that a friend of mine’s work should have been nominated in the Related Work category but every single nomination in that category this year is a fake.

And that, of course, is the true tragedy of all this: actual good stuff that should have been on the list locked out of even the finalist/nomination shortlist by the bad actors.

Rachel S
4 years ago

I’m the author of the story that this was intended as a slap at which is, indeed, about the victim of a hate crime. Because the puppies interpret the hate crime victim as being gay, and because there are dinosaurs in the story, they call it “dinosaur porn.” Because although there is no sex at all in the story, gay = porn, you know.

I think Tingle’s place on the ballot is hilarious, and I really appreciate his performance art. It is amusing as hell that the troll got Stephen Colberted.

Unfortunately, they are not just being little shits. Although Tingle has been the most attention-grabbing nomination, they have also put things on the ballot that are intended to harass authors they don’t like, including one that has a note from the publisher on it saying I should be killed.

Last year, through their harassment, I decided not to say much because it was clear that nothing I said was going to stir them one way or the other, though I did try some attempts at reconciliation. I also stayed quiet because I thought it might stem the harassment. It did not; they escalated.

So, I figure I may as well amuse myself, and hopefully other people, too. Silliness is healing! Inspired by “Slammed in the Butt by My Hugo Nomination,” I’m doing a Chuck Tingle-esque parody as a subscription drive for my Patreon, and a charity fundraiser.

The parody is called “If You Were a Butt, My Butt,” and will be inspired by Chuck Tingle. It will not be mean because we don’t need more meanness injected here.

Since they are using the Hugo ballot to harass me and LGBTQ people, the first month’s patreon funds are going to Lyon-Martin health services, which provides health care specifically aimed toward LGBTQ people, particularly trans people, and particularly low-income people. They treat patients regardless of ability to pay.

I hope people will consider signing up for the fundraiser. If you want to sign up to support me long term, I certainly won’t complain. But if you want to just join in for the Lyon-Martin fundraiser, you can subscribe for one month, and then cancel your subscription, so all your funds will go there. You’ll still get the Butts and my normal Patreon rewards (which include a free monthly poem or short story).

The details of what I’m calling my “Making Lemons into Jokes” campaign are here: http://rachelswirsky.com/2016/05/making-lemons-into-jokes-if-you-were-a-butt-my-butt/

guest
guest
4 years ago

It is really disappointing–she was a shoo-in for the Hugo, we all assumed she’d get it, and it was a shock that she wasn’t even nominated (though I guess given what happened last year we should have been better prepared). And I’m particularly disappointed as her thing was a one-shot, so this is likely to have been her only chance.

Leftwingfox
Leftwingfox
4 years ago

I’m really sorry to hear that , guest. Would you be willing to share a link to it, if it’s available online?

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

Especially in ‘Related Work’, where two of the entries are:
– A pretty blatant hit piece from Vox’ own blog
– A piece of history which does deserve to be known, but which was included because it helps support the previously-noted hit piece and because the writer has taken her previous abuse and gone all anti-gay-marriage as a result.

Thiazin red
Thiazin red
4 years ago

@Guest

Was it for Letters to Tiptree? If so its a huge shame that its not on the Hugo shortlist, but congratulations on the Locus nomination.

As for the article, having Zoe Quinn accept the award would be amazing. What would you call this, a reverse troll?

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

Also, a number of people have said that Related Work this year suffered from an embarrassment of good choices, which unfortunately diluted the votes for a lot of them and made it easier for the slate to take over. Letters to Tiptree, Women of Wonder, Felicia Day’s autobiography…

Lorcan Nagle
Lorcan Nagle
4 years ago

I have been putting it about that from hereon out, Theodore Beale/Vox Day should be known to all as VOXMAN. Because it’ll irk him something rotten.

Claude Vess
Claude Vess
4 years ago

Can anyone give some desperately needed background on this to a non-sci-fi fan?

I’m on board with any embarrassment to Teddy Beale.

Chiomara
Chiomara
4 years ago

I swear I read this article 3 times and still am not sure I understood.
Vox trolled the Hugo by submitting a troll book, which the Hugo nominated to troll itself (?), then the writer started trolling Vox by inviting the person who Vox liked to troll to receive the prize.
That’s the situation, if i’m understanding.

If that’s right, now I only have to translate the twits to a language I can understand, maybe english. First of all, what is buckaroo? Whats up with the matrix? Devilman? What?!

This is all so surreal. But I am glad for Zoe. I guess?

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

@Chiomara:

Vox trolled the Hugo by submitting a troll book, which the Hugo nominated to troll itself (?), then the writer started trolling Vox by inviting the person who Vox liked to troll to receive the prize.

Well, more:
– Vox trolled the Hugo awards by submitting a troll book
– Vox got a lot of his followers to vote for the troll book; because the Hugo awards are based entirely on fan votes and not on a jury, all votes get counted and the book got onto the shortlist.
– The writer started trolling Vox.

The middle line is the important one: Vox got a couple hundred of his friends to vote on this (mostly all people who’d paid to vote last year as well; if you pay for a membership one year, you can vote on nominations the next year as well but not on the final results). The Hugo awards are selected by the vote of everybody who’s a member of the Worldcon; it’s not some small panel of people who decide.

Chiomara
Chiomara
4 years ago

@Jenora
Aaah, this explains a real lot, thank you. I heard of these Awards but had no idea how it worked.
Now… Isnt buckaroo a horse? Sorry if its a stupid question, but I cant find something that makes sense in this context in the dictionary, and I love the sound of it.

I Blame Myself
I Blame Myself
4 years ago

Is there any way this could be more perfect?
I think not, meine freunde. I think not.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
4 years ago

Buckaroo is a cutesy diminutive term for a boy – used to be for a cowboy, but now it’s sort of a diminishing term, especially for an adult or stranger. It’s infantilizing and such.

tricyclist
tricyclist
4 years ago

Is it very wrong that I have no real idea what is going on, but I’m excited as hell and wearing a big fat grin anyway?

Lorcan Nagle
Lorcan Nagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Chiomara

Potted History of the Sad and Rabid Puppies:

The Hugo Awards are one of the most prestigous in Science Fiction and Fantasy. They’re voted on by the members of Worldcon, a convention that moves to a different city each year. The total voting poll is quite low – around a thousand people nominate candidates and maybe 5 times as many vote on the shortlist.

People can purchase a supporting membership for Worldcon for roughly $40 (the exact amount changes depending on who’s running the con), which doesn’t let you attend, but gives you the right to nominate and vote for that year’s Hugos, and nominate for the following year.

The nomination voting is a simple count. Each person can nominate up to 5 items in each category (book, short story, novella, novelette, dramatic presentation short form, dramatic presentation long form, graphic story, editor short fiction, editort long fiction, magazine, semi-prozine, fanzine, fancast, fan writer, the John W. Campbell award for best new writer and any other I’ve forgotten), and whichever 5 entries get the most votes make up the shortlist. The final voting uses single transferrable vote and voters rank in order of preference, with an option for no award to be given.

In 2013, SF author Larry Correia decided he wanted a Hugo, noted the low nominating numbers and figured he could get himself onto the ballot, calling the campaign Sad Puppies. He failed.

In 2014, he tried again, adding rhetoric about how the awards were being taken over by progressive morals, literary fiction, and a silent majority was being ignored. He also suggested a slate of works for everyone to nominate, and a handful of these got onto the ballot and all of them lost. Voxman was one of the suggested nonminees (for Short Story, IIRC) and he finished behind No Award. The 2014 Hugos were in fact noted for having more winners who were women and/or ethnic minorities.

The 2014 campaign garnered a lot of controversy in SF/F circles because slating isn’t banned by the rules of the Hugo awards, but it’s been seen as dirty pool. The only organised slate in the past was the Church of Scientology trying to get a Hugo for Black Genesis by L. Ron Hubbard.

In 2015 Sad Puppies tried again, Correia handing over the reins to Brad R. Torgeson, a John W. Campbell award nominee (the year he was nominated, he wore his military uniform, saying that if he won he could use it to refuse to wear the traditional tiara). Torgeson solicited nominees from fans, saying that his slate would be open and democratic. Notably less than 50% of the fan suggestions made his list, with no explanation given for why. He also offered a full slate of 5 entries per category. Torgesen’s posts about the slates became increasingly angry and inconsistent. At one time he literally complained that you can’t judge a book by it’s cover.

At the same time, Voxman ran his own slate called Rabid Puppies, and also offered 5 nominees per category.

The end result was that the shortlist was dominated by Puppy picks. It was also clear that Voxman’s slate was more popular than the Sad Puppies’ one. It was also estimated that less than 300 voters were able to squeeze almost everyone else out.

the night of the Hugos ceremony, the only Puppy suggestion to win an award was Guardians of the Galaxy, which would have been on the ballot regardless of the Puppies. Every other Puppy nomination lost, and every category with only Puppy choices was No Awarded.

Naturally, this meant war.

This year, the Sad Puppies campaign was run by Sarah Hoyt, Kate Paulk and one other woman who’s name I can’t remember. In response to intense criticism the prior year, they did run it as an open and transparent campaign, offering a list of all recommendations they recieved weighted by the number of recommdations each got. Their campaign was largely a failure.

However, Voxman ran a slate of 5 items per category, and while his 2015 slate was all right-wing stuff, mostly published by his own vanity press, this year he mixed in some of his own stuff, some things meant to really annoy people (Space Raptor Butt Invasion, his SJWs always lie ebook, the Safe Space as Rape Room blog post that accuses the SF community of harbouring rapists and paedophiles), and a bunch of popular works that likely would have been finalists anyway, like Sandman: Overture and Seveneves by Neal Stephenson.

This was he can declare victory one way or another, because he’ll prove whatever blah blah blah.

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
4 years ago

This is hilarious. VOXMAN has the sense of humour of a high school bully and people like that are are ways baffled by real humour.

There’s another, much less funny wrinkle to VOXMAN’S campaign, and that’s that after after his various ‘my enemies are all paedophiles’ hit pieces, one of the artists he put on the ballot turned out to have drawn and published nude pictures of teenagers. When confronted with this VOXMAN actually pulled out the ‘but she looked 18’ defence.

Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
4 years ago

Aw. I wish Chuck Tingle would troll me. Getting trolled by a surrealist is good for the mind.

katz
4 years ago

The Hugo Awards are one of the most prestigous in Science Fiction and Fantasy.

I think you mean they were one of the most prestigous in Science Fiction and Fantasy.

Until they change their policies, this stuff is going to keep happening. Vox may drop out of the scene but there will always be trolls and there’s no incentive not to do it (aside from self-respect, that is).

Lorcan Nagle
Lorcan Nagle
4 years ago
Reply to  katz

Two years of vandalism doesn’t mean 50 years of history is erased. And rules changes to negate some of the influence of slates are due to be ratified this year so Voxman can’t pull the same shit again to the same degree. There’s further rules changes being proposed as well to figure out how to stop openly offensive work from being slated onto the shortlist too.

Jenora Feuer
Jenora Feuer
4 years ago

@Lorcan Nagle:
You forgot to mention that Vox Day got into this in the first place because Larry Correia put him on the ballot, quote: “because Satan didn’t have any eligible works that period.”

Lorcan Nagle
Lorcan Nagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Jenora Feuer

Oh yes, and later on Correia and Torgeson tried to dial back their connections to Voxman when he started to link the slating campaigns to his usual homophobia and sexism.

brian
brian
4 years ago

“You might even say that Vox has been cucked.”
no, you wouldn’t, because you’re not a garbage person.

Nequam
Nequam
4 years ago

If it made Vox cry hot snotty tears of butthurt, I might just say it.

PS first post from the sweet new computer!

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
4 years ago

@Katz – I tend to think of Voxman’s nonsense as a two-year hiccup in the Hugo’s long history. When Ann Leckie and NK Jesmin are enjoying their surprise tie in the 2026 Best Novel category, there’ll be a schlubby skinhead tax exile watching the proceedings on Ultrahulu, a single tear rolling down his cheek. Knowing that his last handful of troll minions will disown him if he dares ask for sympathy, he will turn to his last friend–a prop flaming sword.

‘You still love me, don’t you?’ he will say.

Then the sword will go out, leaving its owner alone in the dark.

Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
4 years ago

@Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

Holy cow, that was great. Did he get that sword at the mall? Does he display it near a hologram of some kanji he misunderstands?

Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III
4 years ago

@Mike Hisandry – Just do a google image search for vox day flaming sword. Protip: make sure you do not take a large swig of coffee before doing so, or you may ruin a keyboard.

LindsayIrene
4 years ago

Incidentally, this bullshit? Is also going on in the horror literature community.

Oh, god, what fresh hell is happening there?

Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
Mike Hisandry (formerly ThatBear)
4 years ago

@Sir Bodsworth Rugglesby III

Oh, my god. I didn’t know the sword was real. Well, “real.”

Out of all the poses from that photoshoot, out of all the pictures, this is the one he’s proud of.

Congratulations, Voxman, on making “bald guy in black with a weapon” look less intimidating than “six year old with a sparkler.”

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

Incidentally, this bullshit? Is also going on in the horror literature community.

Sigh. I’m more into horror movies than literature (something I should fix!) so I’m not all that personally invested, even as a horror fan, but still, bummer.

I’m not surprised or anything. But saddened.

Lady_Zombie
Lady_Zombie
4 years ago

I’ll try to chase down some more links n’ stuff, but here’s a File770 post about some of the happy horseshit going on in the horror lit community.

http://file770.com/?p=28435

guest
guest
4 years ago

It’s Sydney Padua’s Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage–some people nominated it under Graphic Novel, and others under Related Work.

To supplement what’s already been described about this whole mess, I’ll add that VOXMAN became persona non grata in the sf community after referring to fellow sf author NK Jemison as an animal…and on searching for a description of this I discover that David covered it two years ago:

https://wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/04/24/hugo-nominated-vox-day-even-worse-than-you-think/

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

*waves* Hey Rachel S, I just want to say that I liked your if-you-were-a-dinosaur angle in your story; it was thought-provoking, especially as it made me think about scientific, technological and medical advances and how resources are allocated in research.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

Re: Lady_Zombie’s link

1. For an author, David Riley has no idea how plurals or punctuation work. Always nice to see a four-dot ellipsis in the wild, though.

2. Can anybody explain why Nick Mamatas went on a rant about eeevil liberals and BOTH SIDES in the middle of a post ostensibly agreeing that Nazis are bad?

Tessa
Tessa
4 years ago

Can somebody explain the “Kenna Reves Proud Dad of the Matrix” thing?

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guest | May 6, 2016 at 4:07 pm
If you want to hear the latest Chuck Tingle, with bonus fan anecdotes, check this out:

Is that Mark from Mark Reads Twilight?! 😀

I loved reading that. It was a glorious reading that really helped me formulate Babby’s First Feminist Literature Critiques.

I would have read his 50SoG readthrough too, but the other sporking I read of it (by Das Mervin and Geyhai over on LiveJournal, who have also sporked the fuck out of Twilight) actually made me have a panic attack (not the fault of the sporkers, but rather what they were sporking) and no amount of awesome Deadpool imagery or trigger warnings could have prepared me for the two hours of trying to slow my heart down and to stop crying.

Infrequent Commenter (whose handle disappeared)
Infrequent Commenter (whose handle disappeared)
4 years ago

2. Can anybody explain why Nick Mamatas went on a rant about eeevil liberals and BOTH SIDES in the middle of a post ostensibly agreeing that Nazis are bad?

Because Nick, whether you like him or hate him, has an amazing ability to do things which shift the focus onto him.

Shaenon
4 years ago

Rachel, I love you and you are the wind beneath my wings.

It’s Sydney Padua’s Thrilling Adventures of Lovelace and Babbage–some people nominated it under Graphic Novel, and others under Related Work.

Aw, man, Lovelace and Babbage is genius.

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