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Redditor asks MGTOWs why they’re not talking about their “cool hobbies.” They throw a fit.

Actual MGTOW clubhouse not this cool
Actual MGTOW clubhouse not this cool

So a Redditor goes into the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit.

I realize that sounds a bit like the start of a crappy joke. But it’s true. Earlier today, the guy in question popped into the MGTOW subreddit with a couple of questions.

 I came to this subreddit thinking that it would be filled with cool hobbies and adventures (self.MGTOW) submitted 3 hours ago by AwYisBreadCrumbs But it's filled with people talking about women. I thought this sub was for men going their own way? Where's all the cool shit?

Now, I don’t know if AwYisBreadCrumbs is trolling or not, but there are few things you can say to a MGTOW that will offend him more than this seemingly reasonable question.

If these guys really are all enjoying their awesome bachelor lifestyles, unburdened by the demands of marriage and parenthood and all of that, you might expect them to share some of the details with their MGTOW pals: Here I am rock climbing in Colorado. Here I am meeting rescued Orangutans in Borneo. Here’s the backyard roller coaster I built with my own hands. Here’s my podcast about Elvis impersonators. Here’s my model train set. I dunno, something. Anything.

Nope! Oh sure, once in a long while one of the regulars will make a post about his motorcycle. But roughly 99% of the posts in r/MGTOW are complaints about women.

And that’s the way the MGTOWs like it, as they made very clear with their overwhelmingly hostile responses to AwYis’ (possibly) innocent question. Here are some of them:

define cool sh*t. Only a woman needs to ask to be entertained.

s*ck my d*ck

There are already subreddits focusing on whatever it is you want to talk about. MGTOW is about enjoying the decline.

Your post sounds like you are concerned that mgtow have the audacity to talk about women. Gtfo quickly

Take your ass on out

you put expectations on MGTOW. There aren’t any, that’s why we all went this way.

Sorry, dude. There are expectations when it comes to MGTOWs. Anyone who’s ever spent a more than a few minutes watching a MGTOW video, or reading a MGTOW forum, or encountering MGTOWs in any other context quickly learns to expect MGTOWs to be the hyperbolically misogynistic manbabies that they in fact are.

So if you’re looking for cool model train layouts on Reddit, you’re going to have to go to r/modeltrains, where I found this:

 

 

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Bbz
Bbz
5 years ago

What a lovely mongoose.

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

Dear lord these people are pathetic. Lesse, instead of complaining about not getting any, they could do a bunch of cool stuf instead. For some manly examples…

-Playing football (association or American), airsoft, baseball, or any other sport really

-Practice martial arts

-Fixing and driving cool vintage cars

-Go hunting or fishing

And that’s off the top of my head. Other cool stuff might include…

-Knitting

-Drawing

-Playing an instrument

-Writing

-Collecting stuff

And again, that’s off the top of my head.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

It’s the book you wanna cry about, but your dude friends would tease you about it, but you know they’re also feeling that same kinda way. There’s a lot of eye contact avoidance is all I’m saying

It’s the novel that every man reads in his life to keep away from that overly emotional “chick lit” but written by a woman.

Imagine, if more men didn’t have ego more brittle than carbon, they could enjoy equally or even better books. I never read a Meg Cabot or Ursula K. Le Gein book I haven’t liked.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Sarity – Ha! I love it.

Manly book clubs? But book clubs are already masculine, at least in French! “Le club de lecture,” says Google Translate (because I don’t trust my own French in remembering the whole le/la thing).

…Seriously, I guess their idea is that book clubs are a women’s hobby, and anything associated with women has to be man-ified (like “brogurt”) to be acceptable to Manly Men.

I go to a book club and the ratio of men to women is about 60/40. But then, the book is Finnegans Wake and everyone knows that James Joyce is a man’s man. He had an eyepatch and all, which made him look like a pirate, and therefore manly. (Sad but true reason for the eyepatch: serious eye problems. He also had cool hats, though.)

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

Even if you don’t want to go out and do stuff, there’s a million avenues of entertainment available. There’s books, music, games, TV shows and films, websites to read and videos to watch. I don’t go out much but I just watched Puella Magi Madoka Magica last week and it was great. I have about a million games and want to get even more (right now I’d like to get Dark Souls 3, mostly). On the topic of video games (and I’m guessing MGTOW and GGer overlap heavily), why aren’t they sharing their video game war stories?

Here’s an example: On chapter 10 of Fire Emblem Fates Conquest, I had to defend a harbor from getting overrun by the enemy leader’s forces. I stationed my tankiest units like Arthur and Effie towards the front, had the wizard Nyx operate magical artillery, and had both Niles and Mozu (whom I reclassed to Archer) use ballistae to soften up the enemy. My cavalry and airborne units defended the flanks and kept enemies from getting too close while Felicia and Elise ran around keeping people alive. However, the enemy drained the harbor and could more easily flank me, and strategy devolved. Before long, my men were holed up in a crude box formation at the point being defended. Eventually, the battle was won and no lives were lost on my side, but it was a tense fight. But of course, MGTOWs would rather not talk about anything like this because telling a story means there’s less time devoted to bashing women.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

This MGTOW’s* hobbies include snuggling microfiber blankies.

http://i.imgur.com/Slevr4U.jpg

*He actually goes his own way, though. He leaves the room when the girl cat comes in.

epitome of incomprehensibility

@Jack: Direct hit to the nostalgia! Meg Cabot, like The Princess Diaries? All-American Girl? (I was/am more into comedy than fantasy writing, so I don’t know much about her Mediator series, but yeah!)

Also also I should read The Outsiders. Can you believe I’ve never read it?

katz
5 years ago

It’s not manly until they read The Outsiders. Continuously. For all time. It’s a very manly book.

That or Catcher in the Rye.

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

Also also I should read The Outsiders. Can you believe I’ve never read it?

I can believe it because terrible, terrible people exist in the world. But, for real, it’s a good book and very quotable.

That or Catcher in the Rye.

But Holden Caulfield is so whiny. No one wants to read about a whiny teenager, not even whiny teenagers. Especially since it’s mandatory reading in some schools.

(I’ve read it three times, it’s great.)

GenJones
GenJones
5 years ago

For a really excellent dystopian cyberpunk novel narrated by a whiny teenager I highly recommend “Feed” by M.T. Anderson.

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

I hear Catcher in the Rye was so popular because an angsty teenager was novel when the book came out. Now, it’s annoying and passe.

katz
5 years ago

I hear Catcher in the Rye was so popular because an angsty teenager was novel when the book came out. Now, it’s annoying and passe.

It’s almost like it was considered profound and important when a boy was doing it, but now that it’s all girls doing it…

Handsome "These Pretzels Suck" Jack (formerly Pandapool)

For a really excellent dystopian cyberpunk novel narrated by a whiny teenager I highly recommend “Feed” by M.T. Anderson.

YES. Although it’s all “anti-technology”, “anti-millennial”, like, blah blah blah. It’s still good if you can ignore that.

If you want a not so angsty teen, but still angsty, I suggest the Gemma Doyle series. I have never been so angry yet appreciative of an ending, goddamnit.

guy
guy
5 years ago

My cavalry and airborne units defended the flanks and kept enemies from getting too close while Felicia and Elise ran around keeping people alive.

Sheesh, not referring to Camilia by name on her big intro mission.

I did some messing around with pairing up and the rescue staff to get her to visit the house a bit beyond the wall and extract without getting shot down while sending her retainers to block the forces hooking around to the northeast. That was also the mission where I abandoned my FE player pride and started exploiting the fact that I was playing Hard Mode Casual and thus had no permadeath. Overall shape is fairly similar except that it was Jakob rather than Felicia.

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

On the subject on angsty teens, take this stupid song. I’ve linked it here before but eh why not do it again?

epitome of incomprehensibility

@GenJones: Oh yeah, I liked that! I read it for 11th grade… er, I forget, either English or media studies. One of my friends thought it was “trying to hard” to be like 1984 or A Clockwork Orange, and maybe it was “trying too hard” in some parts, but it didn’t seem much like either of those books (aside from a couple of 1984 references). It reminded me more of The Matrix.

There was a creepy/funny image from that book that stuck with me, where Titus is talking to Violet (I think) and he casually mentions seeing an eye blinking out of a beef shrub (see, they’ve genetically engineered beef to grow like a plant, it being the future and all).

To me, a beef plant seems less like “downfall of society” and more like “oh, cool,” but I admit a cow’s eye blinking at you from one would seem a bit… unsettling.

@FrickleFrackle – Yeah, I’ve heard it was pioneering in that way. “YA” literature had hardly started, and here was this teenage boy swearing and having angsty feelings and thinking about sex and such…

I read it for the 2nd time last year (first read it when I was 15) and what struck me was that while Holden had real problems (not to get too personal, but my mother’s also been suffering from a clinical depression fuelled by burnout/lack of sleep/anxiety etc.), it would’ve been much worse for him in that situation if he’d been other than rich/white/male. But I think he realizes that somewhat, at least the class aspect.

@katz – Agreed.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
5 years ago

Catcher in the Rye is the best comedy book. I just could not stop reading without laughing my sides off over how utterly pathetic he is. Every page, I just can’t stop laughing at his expense.

Grendel-The-Hutt
Grendel-The-Hutt
5 years ago

Seriously, I will follow this blog everyday if you just keep posting more videos of model trains. That shit was fantastic.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Haven’t read Catcher, but that’s exactly how I feel about À rebours. Des Esseintes is basically a decadent Mr Bean.

GenJones
GenJones
5 years ago

They have gone full Saturday morning cartoon villain.

MGTOWs remind me of that praying mantis villain from Space Ghost
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/spaceghost/images/a/a4/Zorak.jpg

“Santa Claus didn’t bring me a choo-choo train for Christmas, and that’s why I’m evil.”

guest
guest
5 years ago

The wizard looks and sounds like a lovely man, but I don’t believe he can be counted among the MGTOWs:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/east/belgrave-wizard-baba-desi-talks-family-health-and-healing/story-fngnvlxu-1226595652401

As an actual railway engineer I’ve always been pretty dismissive of model trains, but that video is freakin’ art, man.

zesty
zesty
5 years ago

If you want to see cool model trains, look no further than this
🙂

Pietro_McM
Pietro_McM
5 years ago

The question was either a fine piece of trolling, or a stroke of disingenuous genius.

In your life without women, what do you do in your spare time?

The simple truth being, ‘We spend years and years of our online lives, moaning and obsessing about them, whilst we cry salty, angry, tears, into our daily bowl of FapFlakes.’

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

I had to read Catcher In The Rye in school, in Finnish translation. It seems we read a lot of stories about angsty troubled teenagers, presumably because that was the whole scope of “respectable teen lit” back then. I couldn’t relate to any of it, since I didn’t have problems and I was generally very naive about such things.

Skiriki
Skiriki
5 years ago

Y’know, all this makes me think of a scifi/cyberpunk plot, of a memetic version of rabies. It’s a bit like BLIT (note: the story, which is linked in this article, deals with racism and half of it is from the racist’s point of view, so it has his gross thoughts shown), except it doesn’t work instantly, just accumulating per exposure and then boom… Maybe I should ponder this idea some more.

Skiriki
Skiriki
5 years ago

Arctic Ape:
I had to do this too (read the Finnish version of it at school), and it just totally failed to click with me. One of the reasons for that was probably because all slang was translated to slang of its time (1961 translation). Second, since it had been written in 1951, USA, a lot of things in it felt so out of place that it was hard to visualize things in my mind, plus a serious feeling of unreliable narrator. Third, speaking of the narrator, total fail in connecting with Holden, who felt like a total BLEEP. It was like “I get to deal with self-centered assholes day in and day out in school and real life, do I have to spend my time reading about them too?”

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
5 years ago

I just saw this Lego train the other day. It’s great for three reasons:

1. It’s a train.
2. Cats love it.
3. It’s Lego for MRAs to step on.

makroth
makroth
5 years ago

Migtoes are narcisists waging an eternal crusade to bring women fully back under their control. They will never go they own way. They just want women to worship the ground they walk on.

@kupo

Cute cat. Kinda looks like he’s sporting a moustache. I’m imagining him sounding like an old-school English gentleman who ”harumphs” a lot and likes to talk about hunting expeditions he’s been on. I assume that cat is male, but please correct me otherwise.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
5 years ago

@epitome : that being said, it’s “club” who is masculine. If one label it “association” it suddenly become femine. Association being a deminine word may explain why they do nothing of their life, since they may fear to become their archenenemy if they dared associate.

French is very funny about gender. My prefered one is that the most common (and a bit vulgar) way to designate the male sexual organe is a feminine word, while the most common words for breasts are both masculine.

LostInLindsey
LostInLindsey
5 years ago

I want all the train sets!

ThatBear, the new tapeworm parasite
ThatBear, the new tapeworm parasite
5 years ago

@Skiriki

THANK YOU. I loathed Catcher In the Rye. I did not like being stuck with Holden Stupid Caulfield for a whole book. I feel bad about how much I hate that kid.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@makroth
He’s a male kitty, you are correct. I also imagine he harumphs a lot, especially when I got up, thus forcing him to move over slightly, right before I took that picture.

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
5 years ago

The wizard looks and sounds like a lovely man, but I don’t believe he can be counted among the MGTOWs

Maybe he’s one of the Magi Granting Three Ominous Wishes?

Dan Hagen
5 years ago

You will not find an internet group more emotionally attached to women than MGTOW.

My dad and uncle were model train hobbyists. Definitely went their own way, if you want to call it something.

Thaag
Thaag
5 years ago

My parents threw a shit fit when the Lit3A teacher had our class read CitR. Their objections were the cuss words (they were very religious). I didn’t get to read it until I was 25, when a friend of mine claimed it was “the best book ever”.

Um.

My parents really did do me a favor back in high school.

(It was also telling that every single book but one in Lit class centered around men except one, which was about a filthy Puritan whore.)

ikanreed
ikanreed
5 years ago

@Thaag

You didn’t read the handmaid’s tale or to kill a mockingbird in lit class? Those were some of my favorites

And… I think you maybe missed the point of The Scarlet Letter, it was, in spite of being written by a guy, pretty damn feminist in its underlying message for its time.

ScarlettAthena
ScarlettAthena
5 years ago

For good angsty teenage girls, how about Ghost World? Early ScarJo and lots of sarcasm.

I actually liked Catcher in the Rye, but maybe that’s because I myself tended toward the angsty in my pre-wall, carefree, unaware of the cock carousel, MGTOW or PUA stuff days.

epitome of incomprehensibility

Re: not liking A Catcher in the Rye – This reminds me of a discussion I read on Goodreads about what book was the most overrated. Some people said that one, others said The Lord of the Rings, Ulysses, The Bible, etc., etc., and the discussion got pretty heated.

Then one person said, no, the most overrated book is Everybody Poops – WE ALREADY KNOW THAT.

The memory still makes me smile. 😛 (Yes, there is a children’s book called Everybody Poops. That is a thing that exists. And it’s quite charming.)

kale
kale
5 years ago

kinda reminds me of how Ive never seen GGers just chill & discuss games they love but Ive seen feminists do that a lot

kale
kale
5 years ago

kids who are potty training LOVE that literal shit

guest
guest
5 years ago

@IP that was fun 🙂

Not a model, but my favourite train film:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7GXWuTwkF8

At the railway museum in York they had this in one of those pod things that makes you feel like you’re moving (very bumpy over the points)–a friend and I did it once and we were screaming and hanging on for dear life.

Don’t forget to keep track of the station clocks!

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

@Sarity

Eeee that is the best! I am saving it. For posterity.

AsAboveSoBelow
AsAboveSoBelow
5 years ago

“Go, then!” “I’m gone!”

Aphrodite
Aphrodite
5 years ago

Most Gods Turn Out Weird

As a hellenic polytheist, I have to agree.

Aphrodite
Aphrodite
5 years ago

To catch up with the discussion (I’m the perpetual late anime character with toast in mouth in these threads), I actually enjoyed CitR. I sympathized with Holden, but maybe that’s just because I’m always surrounded by mentally ill teens… well, and because I am one.

Mike
Mike
5 years ago

On the subject of people doing cool shit in their spare time:

Because I’m into photography stuff, the one that always comes to mind for me is this guy who made his own machine to produce photographic film:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dark_orange/sets/72157603226919391/

He straight-up has his own, personal film factory in his house!

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Oooh, are we talking about hobbies now? I’ve gotten into watching some Korean and Japanese model-making videos. I’ve also watched videos about Re-Ment, which are like blind-box miniatures that come in sets and stuff.

Here’s one From “Hamster Miniature Workshop 2” (which I always thought their name was HMS2, which sounded like a battleship or something to me until I Google Translated the page. 😛 ), which I’m pretty sure I’ve posted one of their videos before.

And no need to worry about translations here, they work in silence (and they’ve translated their captions for supplies), so it’s super soothing!

RobinG
RobinG
5 years ago

David, that is amazing! I love that cartoon and this site and now I’m buying the t-shirt.

Pony's Labia
Pony's Labia
5 years ago

Being desperate for affection and attention drives people away. Feeling entitled to sex drives women away. Being a self pitying shit sack is not a good way to make friends and influence people, which is why none of the people who spew poison on reddit are going to make any positive changes in their life. Not until they turn off their computers and work on themselves, rather than sharing and re-enforcing their toxic views with each other.