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Giddy Gamergater: Will Candace Owens show the world that we’ve been right all along?

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There are some who see the seemingly unlikely ideological romance between anti-bullying-activist-turned-bully-ally Candace Owens and Gamergate as a bit of a con-job.

In this view, the gullible Owens is being manipulated by cynical GGers and assorted far-right ideologues who’ve descended upon her en masse to assure her that her paranoid fantasies are true — particularly when they involve the very women that Gamergate has harassed most relentlessly. It’s a sort of cultic love-bombing, ironically based around hate.

There’s certainly an element of truth to this theory — and you can find plenty of examples of Owens’ gullibility in my previous posts on L’affaire Owens, or just by taking a look at her Twitter feed.

But Owens isn’t the only one here with starry eyes. Just as Owens has been seduced by GGers telling her exactly what she wants to hear, so GG’s True Believers have been seduced by her conspiracy theories. This isn’t, in other words, just a case of exploitation; it is also something of a folie a deux.

“This is probably THE BIG ONE!” an enthusiastic GGer called darkpowrjd gushed in a heavily-upvoted comment on the Kotaku in Action subreddit, the main GG hub on Reddit, several days ago.

Candace Owens, for all her faults, could be [the person] who vindicated GG for two YEARS of what they have been accused of doing en masse.

You’ll have to excuse darkpowrjd’s somewhat tangled language; they’re a little excited.

Yeah, this could be one of the most elaborate traps ever set up for GG to fall into, and I wouldn’t put it past any of the LWs to have THAT elaborate of a plan set up, but I don’t think Owens would seriously be that willing to be the cog in that plan.

With that little bit of butt-covering out the way, darkpowrjd explains why Owens is truly the woman of Gamergate’s dreams.

I’m still cautious, but I’m starting to think more and more that this is really a thing that’s going on, and this was the one person that we’ve been waiting for that has the pull, power, and connections to blow the entire lid off of what we have already known.

She HAS THE POWER

As darkpowrjd sees it, the evil anti-GG conspiracy has

more or less been doing this to the GG movement as a damn WHOLE for two years now. Never being opposed, always getting a free pass, and always getting sympathy by playing the feminist card. No one dared to question them because of how many people they ended up getting on their side.

But now …

the tides have turned

Ok, ok, I’ll try to restrain myself.

But they ran into someone that they couldn’t influence, buy out, or convince that easily. They ran into someone that had connections, but also was smart enough to pick up on some things, and put two and two together when things happened that seemed too coincidental to be just a coincidence.

Forget what I just said about restraining myself.

The fact that media outlets tended to react to Gamergate with skepticism, if not outright hostility, couldn’t possibly be that it was obviously a hate crusade pushing perhaps the stupidest conspiracy theory the world has ever known. No, it must have been the fault of … the people Gamergate hates the most!

Now, think about this: how many media outlets do you think this team of Signal, Quinn, and Harper did this too? How many got this treatment, and were too scared (or just willing to play along or even agree with them on everything) to do anything or say anything? … Think about how LONG this might have been going on, or how many more people were caught up in this web, and how far along does this conspiracy actually go? How far down did this rabbit hole go?

I’m pretty sure the only holes that GGers have explored have been entirely self-dug.

All the “neutral = pro” comments, anyone who did so much as to try to get both sides of GG getting bitched at, the NeoGAF bannings that didn’t make any sense … everything that had ever happened that GG got blamed for because they EXISTED!

Or perhaps GG got blamed for a lot of things because it’s a movement made up largely of harassers and trolls that routinely does a lot of pretty awful things?

darkpowrjd accuses evil anti-GG “Journos” of an assortment of terrible misdeeds, including “continu[ing] to poke the bear every chance they got” and “gamedropping,” which Urban Dictionary defines as the sinister SJW “practice of dropping a #GamerGate mention into a totally unrelated article in an attempt to drive clicks and controversy.”

It is hard indeed to imagine a crime more horrific than the journalistic practice of occasionally paying attention to Gamergate.

ALL of that (and THEN some) could be exposed with one single person who might’ve not have even been aware of what she was about to do.

And quite the exposer Owens has been. So far her longest and most passionate “expose” involved a Washington Post story that never ran but that Owens was sure would have been full of libels against her.

Owens is saying that she isn’t a conspiracy theorist. But every theorist might be thinking they hit the damn jackpot when reading this and knowing how this has probably been going on for 2 plus years now.

In the sense that, yes, Gamergate has been energetically spinning conspiracies out of nothing for “2 plus years now” and Owens is now doing the same.

The reason Zoe’s group is running to try to get things under control is because Owens hit all 7’s here, and she wants to cash out.

Well, no. Quinn was concerned that Owens’ proposed bully-doxxing site could be easily abused by bullies.

Ironically, Gamergaters themselves were making very similar criticisms, at least until Owens started attacking some of Gamergate’s most-hated (and most-harassed) enemies.

It could be the beginning of the end for blaming Gamergate for everything.

And there’s Gamergate in a nutshell.

From the very start, even before it had a name, Gamergate has been a “movement” of gamers against criticism of games and gamers — and ultimately, of Gamergate as well.

Oh, sure, most Gamergaters don’t mind games criticism based on game mechanics, or whether or not a game is “fun” to play. But they don’t like any criticism that might in any way reflect badly on them. That’s why Anita Sarkeesian sent so many gamers into hysterics simply for noting that, yes, a lot of games are really pretty sexist — because by extension, this suggests that the gamers buying and playing these games in record numbers might just be an eensy weensy bit sexist themselves.

And that’s why the now infamous “gamers are dead” articles inspired such fury, transforming what had been a harassment campaign against “uppity” women in video games into a putative campaign for “ethics in games journalism” — with the main “ethical” failure of games journalists implicitly defined as “saying anything bad about us.”

The repellent fantasy author and sometime game developer Vox Day let the not-so-cute cat out of the bag in an interview with internet talk show host David Pakman last year, declaring that

what Gamergate is fundamentally about is the right of people to design, develop and play games that they want to design, develop and play without being criticized for it.

Vox later walked this back a little, saying he didn’t really mean that gamers and game developers should be immune from criticism. But you don’t need to be a Freudian to suspect that Vox’s slip revealed what he actually thinks.

Owens is also easily offended by criticism, and seems to think so highly of her own opinions that she assumes anyone critical of them cannot possibly be sincere, and therefore must be part of some terrible conspiracy.

It’s no wonder she and Gamergate get along so well.

H/T — r/BestOfOutrageCulture

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leftwingfox
leftwingfox
5 years ago

If you haven’t played Undertale, yeah, definitely that. It’s short, but it’s a game that really needs to be played twice.

FrickleFrackle
FrickleFrackle
5 years ago

On the subject of games, sometime this year I want to get Fallout 4 DLC, Dark Souls III, and maybe Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse when it comes out. I really liked SMT IV after all, in spite of its horrible world map. Also, I third the recommendation for New Vegas, just about my favorite game. Get the Ultimate Edition, I did after I played the original copy so much the disc broke. Word of advice though, look out for bugs, FNV has a ton of them. Also, if you need a player home early on, use the Goodsprings Gas Station. The loot in their doesn’t reset, which means you can put all sorts of stuff into its containers without issue. It also looks nice with guns on the shelves and random trash on the floor.

Since I just mentioned SMT, have a song from the Majin Tensei spinoff.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Yeah, all the New Vegas DLC/expansions are worth it, so the Ultimate Edition is a good investment. It’s certainly buggy, but there are some good fan-made patches that offer varying degrees of stabilisation, tweaking and rebalancing. And, I can’t believe I forgot to mention Undertale! Absolutely an essential play for anyone with even the faintest interest in story- and writing-centric games, I’d say.

The Furious Mouse
5 years ago

@Supermeerkat

Okay. I admit. That is a cool name. I figure you deserve a reply for that at least.

So gg isn’t a racist movement and doesn’t harras people as well. You’re all a bunch of misunderstood saints, really.

GG never claimed to be saints. Or even “good” in the moral sense. Their message from the beginning has been that video games should be judged solely on their merits. Not on socjus “ideals” projected on them by people who don’t play video games.

GamerGate has supporters who are african and asian (so much for racism). Supporters who are female (so much for sexism). Supporters who are gay and transgendered (so much for homophobia). The only thing they have in common is they all love good games. Playing the “ist” card is a distraction.

I admit agenda driven trolls have been trying to co-opt GamerGate’s message since the beginning. GG leadership such as it is has stated again and again they do not support or endorse harassment. Go ahead, try going to KotakuInAction “the almost official GamerGate subreddit” and saying HEY LETS HARASS SOMEBODY. You’ll be downvoted faster than a Trump meme in r/lgbt/ .

Why is it the media judges SJWs only their “best” actions and GG is judged only by its “worst?” And why are sites like this one desperate to link ANY misbehavior by white males to GG? Half the posts here tagged #GamerGate have nothing to do with GG at all.

These are all pieces of the puzzle. Think about it.

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

Seconding the recommendations for New Vegas and Sunless Sea.

Sunless Sea is almost like a weird meditative free form novel, with steam ships and madness and horrible eldritch monsters. It’s got some of the best writing I’ve seen in a game in awhile, and the score is really atmospheric and well done.

And new Vegas is awesome. It’s even got the fallout staple of a surprising number of fights being avoidable with the right skill- I think you can even talk your way out of the final boss fight if you’re charming enough, like in Fallout 2 where if you’re smart enough you can beat the last boss by pointing out that his plan to create a new race is stupid because all his mutants are sterile, so it self destructs out of despair at it’s failure.

Good stuff.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

Ah, that was Fallout 1! Fallout 2 had a more complicated skill-based non-combat ending – you had to convince one of the Enclave’s scientists that their plan to wipe out all outsiders was abhorrent, so they’d help you sabotage it, and then hack the security system and/or convince the fleeing guards to take down the final boss for you. And, yeah, New Vegas continues the tradition – the final confrontations in the main game and all four expansions can be resolved (relatively) peacefully.

katz
5 years ago

Did all you Fallout fans like Wasteland 2? All the Brian Fargo trademarks we love, but being an indie, it also takes fan feedback into account a lot more than major studio games, so it’s refreshingly sensible about gender and the like. Plus: The return of turn-based combat!

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

Damn, you’re right! I always mix up fallout one and two cause their plots intersect way more than the others.

Also, can I point out how fuckin hilarious it is that Mr gamergate mouse is blathering on with the gamergate talking point of “y’all sjw’s don’t play games!” in the middle of a bunch of sjw’s talking about video games?

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

Also, “we’re not racists!”

… Following the comment about the “dindus” that manages to smash anti-black racism into Islamophobia with implied rape threats.

Yep. Keep quoting /pol/ while you tell me you’re totally not racist.

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

@Binjabreel

No big! Yeah, 2 follows 1 pretty closely – and then NV is a bit more distanced from 1 but picks up a lot of 2’s story threads. Honestly, I could rave about those games all day.

And, yeah, I was thinking the same thought! Particularly as part of our discussion is clearly about how the way that these games grapple with real-world social issues – or “ist cards”, if you prefer – is a part of their “merits” and a part of how they can be discussed, criticised and appreciated. Their stories, their characters, to what degree they serve as insightful observations about the world… if we can’t consider these a core part of what makes these the games that they are, then why have those elements at all?

@katz

I played the original Wasteland, but haven’t gotten to 2 yet. Gotta admit, I actually kind of find the turn-based combat a bit of a slog unless I’m really in the mood for it. (That said, I have played Baldur’s Gate 2 and Jagged Alliance 2 about a million times each, over the years, so…)

katz
5 years ago

Obviously there’s no point in taking to Mouse since he’s got a quick ticket to the banhamer for racism and socking. But if he amuses you, knock yourself out. I rather like that he got his trolling backwards by starting with the abusive meltdown and then trying to pass himself off as a reasonable person.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

It’s breathtaking that someone can unironically use the word “dindu” and then claim not to be racist.

It’s also hilarious that he’s still trying to claim that it’s actually about ethics in games journalism or whatever when I’ve already posted the link to the irc log that proves it’s actually about harassment and misogyny.

weirwoodtreehugger
5 years ago

Also, can I point out how fuckin hilarious it is that Mr gamergate mouse is blathering on with the gamergate talking point of “y’all sjw’s don’t play games!” in the middle of a bunch of sjw’s talking about video games?

He even bolded that part. It’s like he’s especially proud of being impervious to reality.

My days of not taking Furious Mouse seriously are certainly coming to a middle.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

@ WWTH

I keep wondering who this Gamergate leadership is supposed to be. As far as I can tell, they don’t have leaders: just people who can shout more loudly than others.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
5 years ago

@TruthBomb #2

Yeah, you can’t start off with racist slurs and then pretend not to be racist. That’s the mistake all alt-righters make. You never realize we can actually scroll back and read what you said before.

Also, the idea that “videogames should be judged on their merits” is perfectly fine. It’s just that you don’t single-handedly get to decide what those merits are, or how they should be valued. Many of us find that a videogame is more enjoyable if female characters aren’t just presented as stereotypical eye-candy. We are allowed to criticize games for whatever fucking reason we want. You guys just need to grow up and accept that other people can have opinions too. Stop being so thin skinned.

Binjabreel
Binjabreel
5 years ago

What’s that Marx brothers line?

Y’know the more I think of you, the less I think of you.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

@Binjabreel – “Stop talking about games and listen to MEEEEE!”

Also: “We’re NOT racists! It’s all the DINDUS FAULT!”

Way to represent, guys.

Visiting GGers: When GG first started, I didn’t want to believe all of the stuff that was said about you – I’ve been into videogames longer than some of you all have been alive. I was like, “Nah, man – they’re good people. There’s just some misunderstanding…”
Time passed, though, and evidence piled up. More and more came to pass.
And suh-prise – you’re a bunch of entitled assholes.

I’ll say it again: Serious critique of games and gaming was evidence that GAMERS WON. We fucking won.
Games are art.
Are they all high art?
Hell no.
And not all art has to be.
Art can be mindless fun, it can be controversial, it can be an escape, but it’s all open to critique – even by those not familiar with that particular medium, even by those approaching it from their own areas of expertise. But it’s being approached and analyzed and RESPECTED because it’s ART.

People don’t only look at the mechanics of games for the same reason that they don’t only look at the types of paint or brush strokes evident on an oil painting, for the same reason that novels are about more than the fucking fonts used.

Saying, “I’m a gamer,” had about as much of a stigma as saying, “I’m a movie buff.”

Thanks a lot, you sack of assholes, for making “gamer” synonymous in the public consciousness with “harassing misogynist”.

Ben
Ben
5 years ago

Mouse:

You understand what tokenism is, right? Having oppressed minorities who support you does not miraculously prevent your movement or its ideology from acting out oppressive behavior. The presence of a person of color is not some vaccine (or, given your thinking, a talisman) against saying racist things, as you show in your first goddamn comment.

Think of it this way: Having a voting base among the rural poor does not make the Republican Party the party for the rural poor. Owning a book on semiotics does not make me a semiotician. Having a spider as a pet does not make me unafraid from spiders. Your one gay friend liking your jokes does not make them not homophobic. The part is not the whole. Relationships are not bilateral by default. Correlation is not and never will be causation.

Everyone else:

Sorry if my reference to The Simpsons went over like a lead balloon for some. I worried that it would play out that way, but then I figured that it was sufficiently absurd (I’ve never known an old man who actually yelled at clouds, outside of wacky comedies) that people would guess it for a reference, even if they didn’t know to what. I was wrong and I’m sorry!

A Space Alpaca
A Space Alpaca
5 years ago

“By people who don’t play games!” he screams, into a thread filled with game recommendations.

edit: oops ninja’d, my bad for not reading closely enough

Diptych
Diptych
5 years ago

@mockingbird

When you put it that way, the anti-intellectual anti-social content crowd calling themselves “true gamers” sounds a lot like the “my five-year-old could have painted that; why can’t you just paint a nice sunset” crowd calling themselves “true art lovers.”

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@Chiomara

Does anyone have games like this one to recommend? Most gamers I know mostly like those brainless shooters and its very difficult to get games for myself.
I like puzzles, story, beauty and hate, hate, hate stuff like CoD or mindless RPGs like “Diablo”

Ooh, great question. I have some not-commonly-known games you might like if you are looking for a trip on the feels train, I guess.

(Fallout is awesome, and I haven’t played Wastelands 2 because I can’t get as interested in the turn based small-party stuff as I used to, for some reason? Perhaps I’ll dive in and give it another go sometime. That one certainly looked good when I saw it on the steams.)

Unrest is a fascinating little old school RPG with no combat, but with more involved social engagement rules. It follows the story of several main characters throughout their lives, with the choices you make earlier affecting the outcomes of their lives (and of the other characters) later on. It’s set in a fantasy India, and is written by Indian developers – and it needs more love. Not long, not expensive.

Antichamber… oh God, Antichamber. This is a subtle one. I’m sensitive to emotional or meaningful themes in games, and this one struck me especially hard. You need to be thinking in metaphors for this one to mean anything to you, but, well. One of the most accurate critical reviews I’ve read is “Every aspect of Antichamber is made to get players out of their comfort zone.” It’s uncomfortable, and very powerful. (also the head bobbing is a bit annoying, so if you’re sensitive to motion sickness, might not be for you)

Fate of the World will be my last suggestion. You like puzzles? Holy noodle is this the hardest puzzle I’ve ever played. The puzzle is “how do we stop the earth from suffering massive environmental collapse?” The playing field is the best world simulation that an Oxford lab could come up with, and your identity a fictional UN organization granted unilateral international power to control research, economy, and social programs throughout the world. It’s incredibly hard, and you get to see the world crumble despite your best efforts, time and again. It’s existential – you don’t really feel too much while playing it, but afterwards? Oh man. Worthwhile, if for nothing beyond being a communication tool about how serious things are.

Croquembouche of Patriarchy
Croquembouche of Patriarchy
5 years ago

@TheFuriousMouse,
following the false equivalence logic espoused by your guru TruthBomb, I am *obliged* to believe the assertion by other commenters that you are in fact a sockpuppet. Until you provide PROOF they are wrong. I look forward to your efforts to meet TruthBomb’s standards of proof.

Supermeerkat
Supermeerkat
5 years ago

@the furious mouse

Do you consider the term “dindu” to be racist (you used this in your post, by the way).

Cerulean (Miss A)
Cerulean (Miss A)
5 years ago

@Chiomara

Ever checked out the ‘Deus Ex’ series? I’m not a huge fan of ‘Invisible War’, but both the original and ‘Human Revolution’ are awesome games, and I can’t wait for ‘Mankind Divided’ to be released.

ETA: I will add there are a couple problematic issues in HR, especially with a minor character who speaks in ‘Jive Turkey’ type language. I also don’t really like the way Megan Reed was written. But otherwise, it’s still a solid game.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
5 years ago

At that point, I expect Truth Bomb #3 in about two hours. With neither of the first two one actually banned.

space garbage
space garbage
5 years ago

Since war games were mentioned, I feel obliged to recommend This War of Mine. It’s a resource management/survival sim about the less ‘spectacular’ side of war – that is, the day-to-day lives of civilians trying to stave off death by starvation/dehydration/illness/exposure/old-fashioned shovel-to-the-head in a besieged city. It won a bunch of awards, and is depressing in the best way possible. The expansion “The Little Ones”, focusing on child survivors, will be coming to PC soon.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@Furious Mouse

Hello! Welcome. You seem sincere about your love of games, so we have a lot in common! I’m even willing to buy the idea that there’s a faction of GamerGate which, from the beginning, *was* concerned about ethics in game journalism, and continues to be so. Your love of games is an important part of your life, and that’s great. We have issues, but hopefully we can at least come together on that.

I’m not going to get into how you’re being a “cover” for the trolls, because there’s something more important in what you said:

GG never claimed to be saints. Or even “good” in the moral sense. Their message from the beginning has been that video games should be judged solely on their merits. Not on socjus “ideals” projected on them by people who don’t play video games.

You’re right, that isn’t good in a moral sense. It’s the opposite of good in a moral sense.

You’re also right that video games should be judged on their merits. Merits are things that make them good for people to play. This includes gameplay, graphics, controls, story; this is certainly true.

See that word “story” in there? Video games have them. Frogger has a story – it’s a story about a frog trying to cross a road and a river. Not a great story, but you could call it a metaphor for life – you’re game is going to end, it’s just a question of what ending you get.

As a game gets more complex and involved, so too does its story – it says more. And those stories are valid to critique. It’s not “socjus” to talk about sexism in games anymore than it’s “socjus” to talk about racism in vaudeville plays, or to talk about the sexuality morals of greek plays. Or do you think criticism of any art needs to limit itself to an appraisal of technical skill?

Video games are a part of society. Millions play them. Millions love them. They’re art, and they’re worthy of critique. We critique them because we love them.

Lea
Lea
5 years ago

Tell us what the best and worst are.

What is the worst people seeking social justice have done? What is the best?

And the same for gg. Define the best and worst of their actions.

How do you think they compare?

hugseverycat
hugseverycat
5 years ago

@Furious Mouse: Can you PROVE you’re not Truth Bomb?

GG never claimed to be saints. Or even “good” in the moral sense. Their message from the beginning has been that video games should be judged solely on their merits.

Can you PROVE it? Are they REAL GamerGaters? Can you PROVE that ONLY real GamerGaters care ONLY about judging games on their merits and not a single one of them has EVER claimed to be good and not a single one of them has EVER harassed ANYONE EVER?

WHERE’S THE PROOF!

GamerGate has supporters who are african and asian (so much for racism). Supporters who are female (so much for sexism). Supporters who are gay and transgendered (so much for homophobia). The only thing they have in common is they all love good games. Playing the “ist” card is a distraction.

Where’s the PROOF? I don’t see any proof of female GamerGaters or GG’ers of color. Can you PROVE they aren’t trolls trying to make GG look diverse? Can you PROVE they aren’t sockpuppets? Can you PROVE they like good games and not shitty boring games?

NO PROOF. Just baseless assertions.

I admit agenda driven trolls have been trying to co-opt GamerGate’s message since the beginning. GG leadership such as it is has stated again and again they do not support or endorse harassment. Go ahead, try going to KotakuInAction “the almost official GamerGate subreddit” and saying HEY LETS HARASS SOMEBODY. You’ll be downvoted faster than a Trump meme in r/lgbt/ .

Yeah? WHERE’S THE PROOF? Can you provide us with a single link? Can you PROVE that every single downvoter is a GamerGater and not a troll or an anti?

Why is it the media judges SJWs only their “best” actions and GG is judged only by its “worst?” And why are sites like this one desperate to link ANY misbehavior by white males to GG? Half the posts here tagged #GamerGate have nothing to do with GG at all.

You’ll need to provide some PROOF here. Show your math that literally 50% or more WHTM posts tagged #GamerGate have NOTHING to do with GamerGaters, and furthermore, include your PROOF that the people in these articles aren’t REAL GG.

These are all pieces of the puzzle. Think about it.

Not until you provide even a single scrap of REAL PROOF.

varalys the dark
varalys the dark
5 years ago

Telltale make some excellent storydriven games which make you make brutal decisions and have the occasional bit of action. Both Walking Dead games are amazing, the second one has a badass girl protagonist, who is only eleven! And The Wolf Among Us is great too, none of them require prior knowledge of the comics they span off from.

I’m currently enjoying Watch Dogs, because I love open world games with loads of distractions, and an obscure Euro-rpg called Risen 2: Dark Waters.

PocketNerd
PocketNerd
5 years ago

Okay. I admit. That is a cool name. I figure you deserve a reply for that at least.

BWAHAHAHAHA! I love how these “dark enlightenment” dorks always talk like they’re enlightened masters descending from the mountaintop to share mystical truths with the plebs.

“I got a woikin’ lunch with da Great Cosmic Universal Oneness in twenny… but I like yeh moxie, kid, so I’ll trow youse a bone.”

GamerGate has supporters who are african and asian (so much for racism). Supporters who are female (so much for sexism). Supporters who are gay and transgendered (so much for homophobia). The only thing they have in common is they all love good games. Playing the “ist” card is a distraction.

Sorry, but having some supporters who are women, queer, people of color, et cetera does not prove that GG isn’t misogynist, homophobic, and racist. Those people are…

::Pocket Nerd puts on sunglasses::

… not your shield.

YYYEEEEAAAHHH

These are all pieces of the puzzle. Think about it.

Oh, no, don’t be coy. I’ve already seen your Twitter account. Tell us all about how certain European bankers are behind it.

Mathieu Tremblay
Mathieu Tremblay
5 years ago

@Furious Mouse: to repeat what I said in my last post, Gamergate lost its right to claim it was always about “ethics” way back when it released the #burgersandfries chat logs. Thanks to Gamergate itself, everybody knows it was always about sending rape and death threats to women who say things you don’t want to hear.

And you lost your right to claim you’re not racist when you unironically wrote “dindu”. Not to mention your use of the “eeeevil arab” bogeyman.

PocketNerd
PocketNerd
5 years ago

Ever checked out the ‘Deus Ex’ series? I’m not a huge fan of ‘Invisible War’, but both the original and ‘Human Revolution’ are awesome games, and I can’t wait for ‘Mankind Divided’ to be released.

ETA: I will add there are a couple problematic issues in HR, especially with a minor character who speaks in ‘Jive Turkey’ type language. I also don’t really like the way Megan Reed was written. But otherwise, it’s still a solid game.

Deus Ex: Human Revolution has its problems, to be sure, but it’s also a smarter commentary on classism and oligarchic corporatism than I ever expected to find in a video game. And it’s also fun to play. 🙂 Get the Director’s Cut, if you can — the original release occasionally forgets it’s a Deus Ex game and plays at being a pop-and-drop shooter for a while.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

Did you write this article, @Furious Mouse ? Cause it sounds exactly like what you’re talking about.

Man Just Wants To Play Violent Military Shooter About Global Conflict Without Critics “Bringing Politics Into It”

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

@Furious Sock puppet

Oi, douche, trolls are only banned if someone requests it, and no one did, because your arguments are 4 yo and so lazy we are even sorry. Go back to mid-2014, where someone, somewhere still believed on your bullshit.

How pathetic of you. I mean, the arguments are pitiful, but I could sympathize, maybe you simply are reaaaally freaking naive. Now, this fake ban and sock puppet? That’s just… Up your game, son. Up your game A LOT.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@Chiomara, I’m sure the plan was “open with a short, horrible racist tweet to get a ban, but follow with something that sounds reasonable. That way people just skipping will think I’m the reasonable one and they’re just knee-jerk-reactionaries!”

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

Games! I like games. Here’s some of the cream at the top of my Steam list.

Kentucky Route Zero: I’m putting this first and separating it because it’s really special to me. You could technically call it an interactive story, but I view it more as an interactive piece of art that is story driven. Beautiful, often surreal, but in a way that fills you with wonder. No voice acting, so caution if you’re not into reading your way through your games. Also, small warning, it’s split up into 5 acts, but only 3 have been released so far, in case that kind of thing bugs you.

Stardew Valley: Nth’d
Super Meat Boy: Really polished, really difficult 2D platformer. If you’ve done the SMB thing and want more, go give I Wanna Be The Guy a shot.
Antichamber: Recommended for fans of Portal. Trades narrative for a straight focus on outside-the-box thinking. “Wait, what? The Game.”
The Stanley Parable: Also falls in the Portal/Antichamber box of “FPS that isn’t a FPS”, but goes the opposite direction of Antichamber and goes almost full narrative.
Undertale: Nth’d
The Swapper: 2D puzzle game with a really neat mechanic. Takes a lot of cues from Portal, but in a good way. Tried this one on a whim and was really surprised by how well the story developed.

Also, if any of you have access to a PS3, get Journey. Get it. Right now.

Edit: Ninja’d by Scildfreja on Antichamber. I’m kinda metaphor blind, so apparently I missed a lot of that part of the game, but I think it stands out regardless.

Zatar
Zatar
5 years ago

Its a bit old but I found myself really invested in Tales of Symphonia. The plot starts out seemingly rather cliched but after a few really well executed plot twists it really picks up. It has a super interesting and sympathetic main cast and a very cool main villain.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

GamerGate has supporters who are african and asian (so much for racism). Supporters who are female (so much for sexism). Supporters who are gay and transgendered (so much for homophobia).

GG can’t be racist, everyone. It has a black friend. /s

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

I didnt expect to get SO many suggestions! I googled the titles and am interested in the huge majority! Damn, guys, thank you!
No, I didnt play New Vegas. But I will, because, honestly, Fallout 4 was SO FUN. I think I will play the whole series, cause I cant get enough of the story.
I had my eyes on Shadows of Mordor. Thanks for reminding me.
That game about war survivors, DAMN, what an interesting concept! I’m excited for that!
Thank you SO much, those are the best suggestions I got in a long while, seriously.
What about the Portal series? Would you recommend? I really like what i’ve seen of it, but I cant make it work in my crappy cheap PC.

hugseverycat
hugseverycat
5 years ago

Yes, Portal is great.

mockingbird
mockingbird
5 years ago

Portal: All the Yeses.

If you’d like to avoid combat, Firewatch might be up your alley.

space garbage
space garbage
5 years ago

I’d like to second The Swapper. It has the following qualities: a sci-fi atmosphere with a heavy philosophical bent, clever puzzles, haunting music, claymation graphics, a powerful ending, and a bunch of hidden text snippets enhancing the already lovely story.

And for another great game containing all of the above (except claymation graphics) but in 3D, try The Talos Principle.

/edit
The Talos Principle sountrack:
https://soundcloud.com/damjan-mravunac/sets/the-talos-principle-ost
The Swapper soundtrack:
http://store.carlocastellano.cc/album/the-swapper-original-soundtrack

The Fall is also a lovely puzzle platformer similar in atmosphere to the above two games, sadly it kind of ends on a cliffhanger as it’s the first part of a trilogy, and the others are not released yet.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@Chiomara, Portal is amazing. I only didn’t mention it because I was going for lesser-knowns. You should be able to run Portal 1, and…. nnngh. Portal 1. In many ways the superior game. Challenging, hilarious, thoughtful, very creepy. And there’s a lot of feminist literature on it as well – not only is the protagonist female; every single character is!

They do introduce some excellent main characters in the second one, and there are some great things to be said about it, but the puzzles aren’t quite as, uh, puzzle-y. Fabulous story, excellent mood. First game is about 4 hours, second game around double that. Worth devoting some evenings to, very much so.

Now I’ma go play Portal again.

PocketNerd
PocketNerd
5 years ago

@Chiomara:

What about the Portal series? Would you recommend? I really like what i’ve seen of it, but I cant make it work in my crappy cheap PC.

Portal and Portal 2 are fabulous. Instant classics, both of them. I tried Portal Stories: Mel but I found the puzzles more annoying than fun, so I didn’t get very far through it.

And let me second Firewatch as well. You’ll probably finish it in just 3-5 hours, so if you’re budget-conscious you might want to wait for a sale… but I bought it at release and didn’t regret a cent of it.

hallucigenia
hallucigenia
5 years ago

Delurking just to say that Sunless Sea is SO GOOD, you guys. It has consumed most of my spouse’s and my gaming-together time lately. We both tend to like slow-paced, detailed, meditative RPGs, and this delivers big-time. There’s a huge amount of text by a number of excellent interactive-fiction authors (Emily Short!) and all kinds of Deep Mysteries in the lore that the fans haven’t come anywhere close to sorting out yet, and the score is amazing. If you liked Planescape:Torment, you should check it out.

There’s definitely a bit of a learning curve regarding how to make enough money on trade to be not totally screwed for cash all the time, and how to not get nailed by pirates and sea monsters.We’re on our…fourth? captain now (the third was the first one to retire instead of dying) and everything has gotten much easier. And there’s so much story that seeing it a second time isn’t annoying at all, but rather an honest-to-goodness chance to make different choices that actually affect the outcome.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@dlouwe

My reply has spoilers, so I’ve put it through a rot13 cipher. Go to rot13.com and paste the text into the top box if you want to decipher what I’ve posted:

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Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

Rot13 looks sort of odd outside of context.

http://i.imgur.com/kk5n6.png

dlouwe
dlouwe
5 years ago

@Scildfreja

Daaaaaaang. That went way over my head. I was just having fun playing a quirky game that played around with my expectations. If I ever feel like giving it another play, I’ll definitely have some different things to look out for.

varalys the dark
varalys the dark
5 years ago

The Portal games are frickin’ awesome. Portal 2 had me laughing so hard at various points (potatOS!) I had to put the controller down and collect myself. If you can get them to work, you’re in for a puzzling treat.