There are some who see the seemingly unlikely ideological romance between anti-bullying-activist-turned-bully-ally Candace Owens and Gamergate as a bit of a con-job.
In this view, the gullible Owens is being manipulated by cynical GGers and assorted far-right ideologues who’ve descended upon her en masse to assure her that her paranoid fantasies are true — particularly when they involve the very women that Gamergate has harassed most relentlessly. It’s a sort of cultic love-bombing, ironically based around hate.
There’s certainly an element of truth to this theory — and you can find plenty of examples of Owens’ gullibility in my previous posts on L’affaire Owens, or just by taking a look at her Twitter feed.
But Owens isn’t the only one here with starry eyes. Just as Owens has been seduced by GGers telling her exactly what she wants to hear, so GG’s True Believers have been seduced by her conspiracy theories. This isn’t, in other words, just a case of exploitation; it is also something of a folie a deux.
“This is probably THE BIG ONE!” an enthusiastic GGer called darkpowrjd gushed in a heavily-upvoted comment on the Kotaku in Action subreddit, the main GG hub on Reddit, several days ago.
Candace Owens, for all her faults, could be [the person] who vindicated GG for two YEARS of what they have been accused of doing en masse.
You’ll have to excuse darkpowrjd’s somewhat tangled language; they’re a little excited.
Yeah, this could be one of the most elaborate traps ever set up for GG to fall into, and I wouldn’t put it past any of the LWs to have THAT elaborate of a plan set up, but I don’t think Owens would seriously be that willing to be the cog in that plan.
With that little bit of butt-covering out the way, darkpowrjd explains why Owens is truly the woman of Gamergate’s dreams.
I’m still cautious, but I’m starting to think more and more that this is really a thing that’s going on, and this was the one person that we’ve been waiting for that has the pull, power, and connections to blow the entire lid off of what we have already known.
She HAS THE POWER
As darkpowrjd sees it, the evil anti-GG conspiracy has
more or less been doing this to the GG movement as a damn WHOLE for two years now. Never being opposed, always getting a free pass, and always getting sympathy by playing the feminist card. No one dared to question them because of how many people they ended up getting on their side.
But now …
Ok, ok, I’ll try to restrain myself.
But they ran into someone that they couldn’t influence, buy out, or convince that easily. They ran into someone that had connections, but also was smart enough to pick up on some things, and put two and two together when things happened that seemed too coincidental to be just a coincidence.
Forget what I just said about restraining myself.
The fact that media outlets tended to react to Gamergate with skepticism, if not outright hostility, couldn’t possibly be that it was obviously a hate crusade pushing perhaps the stupidest conspiracy theory the world has ever known. No, it must have been the fault of … the people Gamergate hates the most!
Now, think about this: how many media outlets do you think this team of Signal, Quinn, and Harper did this too? How many got this treatment, and were too scared (or just willing to play along or even agree with them on everything) to do anything or say anything? … Think about how LONG this might have been going on, or how many more people were caught up in this web, and how far along does this conspiracy actually go? How far down did this rabbit hole go?
I’m pretty sure the only holes that GGers have explored have been entirely self-dug.
All the “neutral = pro” comments, anyone who did so much as to try to get both sides of GG getting bitched at, the NeoGAF bannings that didn’t make any sense … everything that had ever happened that GG got blamed for because they EXISTED!
Or perhaps GG got blamed for a lot of things because it’s a movement made up largely of harassers and trolls that routinely does a lot of pretty awful things?
darkpowrjd accuses evil anti-GG “Journos” of an assortment of terrible misdeeds, including “continu[ing] to poke the bear every chance they got” and “gamedropping,” which Urban Dictionary defines as the sinister SJW “practice of dropping a #GamerGate mention into a totally unrelated article in an attempt to drive clicks and controversy.”
It is hard indeed to imagine a crime more horrific than the journalistic practice of occasionally paying attention to Gamergate.
ALL of that (and THEN some) could be exposed with one single person who might’ve not have even been aware of what she was about to do.
And quite the exposer Owens has been. So far her longest and most passionate “expose” involved a Washington Post story that never ran but that Owens was sure would have been full of libels against her.
Owens is saying that she isn’t a conspiracy theorist. But every theorist might be thinking they hit the damn jackpot when reading this and knowing how this has probably been going on for 2 plus years now.
In the sense that, yes, Gamergate has been energetically spinning conspiracies out of nothing for “2 plus years now” and Owens is now doing the same.
The reason Zoe’s group is running to try to get things under control is because Owens hit all 7’s here, and she wants to cash out.
Well, no. Quinn was concerned that Owens’ proposed bully-doxxing site could be easily abused by bullies.
Ironically, Gamergaters themselves were making very similar criticisms, at least until Owens started attacking some of Gamergate’s most-hated (and most-harassed) enemies.
It could be the beginning of the end for blaming Gamergate for everything.
And there’s Gamergate in a nutshell.
From the very start, even before it had a name, Gamergate has been a “movement” of gamers against criticism of games and gamers — and ultimately, of Gamergate as well.
Oh, sure, most Gamergaters don’t mind games criticism based on game mechanics, or whether or not a game is “fun” to play. But they don’t like any criticism that might in any way reflect badly on them. That’s why Anita Sarkeesian sent so many gamers into hysterics simply for noting that, yes, a lot of games are really pretty sexist — because by extension, this suggests that the gamers buying and playing these games in record numbers might just be an eensy weensy bit sexist themselves.
And that’s why the now infamous “gamers are dead” articles inspired such fury, transforming what had been a harassment campaign against “uppity” women in video games into a putative campaign for “ethics in games journalism” — with the main “ethical” failure of games journalists implicitly defined as “saying anything bad about us.”
The repellent fantasy author and sometime game developer Vox Day let the not-so-cute cat out of the bag in an interview with internet talk show host David Pakman last year, declaring that
what Gamergate is fundamentally about is the right of people to design, develop and play games that they want to design, develop and play without being criticized for it.
Vox later walked this back a little, saying he didn’t really mean that gamers and game developers should be immune from criticism. But you don’t need to be a Freudian to suspect that Vox’s slip revealed what he actually thinks.
Owens is also easily offended by criticism, and seems to think so highly of her own opinions that she assumes anyone critical of them cannot possibly be sincere, and therefore must be part of some terrible conspiracy.
It’s no wonder she and Gamergate get along so well.
H/T — r/BestOfOutrageCulture
It’s not Godwin’s Law when I’m talking about literal nazis. -_-
And that’s not even how Godwin’s Law works anyway. Fucking hell, is there anything you do know?
Sorry, I’m not interested in sifting through 200 random links to an SJW site even if you swear theres a nugget of gold at the bottom of all the shit. Nothing Fatrelle says can be trusted. How about linking to brief summaries of just one or two primary documents rather than regressiveleft spin doctors?
Apparently Godwin’s law is now an actual law of debate not just some thing someone made up on the internet. But also the internet isn’t real life.
Classic.
– THERE’S NO PROOF
– Here’s proof.
– WON’T READ THAT
This is where every reality denier eventually ends up. Fingers in ears, eyes closed, screaming.
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/10/13/gamergate-activist-media-coverage-of-death-threats-against-brianna-wu-means-theyre-now-taking-us-seriously/
http://puu.sh/boAEC/f072f259b6.txt
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/09/08/zoe-quinns-screenshots-of-4chans-dirty-tricks-were-just-the-appetizer-heres-the-first-course-of-the-dinner-directly-from-the-irc-log/
The middle one is the original source, the irc log.
I think there’s no point in discussing anything with this guy. Whatever evidence you give him, he can just say ”nope, not gonna read it, it’s SJW propaganda”. So there’s no way anybody could provide him with ”proof”, because he can just switch what constitutes real proof in the blink of an eye.
Ok, Truth bomb. The original irc log is in my last post.
Read it or shut up.
No ponies here today, folks.
Fair enough – and yes, blockquote works, obviously.
Hope you realize that your “fondness for free speech and privacy” are not inhibited by using js, since most data collection these days is server-side.
1) “could come from” and “are coming from” are miles apart. The rational reaction in a high-volume situation is to assume a mixed result. We can also determine the weights of each possible category.
2) We can effectively discount the “false flag” narrative as being unfalsifiable. Unless you prefer being a conspiracy theorist?
Hey, look, fallacy-dropping and entry-level logic! Shocking to see that from a gamgergater.
In what way is my premise false? The null hypothesis is to naively assume that any tweet that is pro-gamergate is from a gamergater. If you want to propose another reason, you need to provide evidence for it. That’s what a null hypothesis is – everything is as it seems, indistinguishable form the background.
Learn to science.
Calm down now cupcake. Unplug from the mean old internet. Watch a soap opera. Pop a Zanax and eat some bon bons.
Maybe later you can blog about how brave you were in the face of my
factscis gender hetero patriarchal oppression.😉 😉 😉
I love how Truthbomb openly advertises the fact that he’s always getting banned as if getting banned for being an asshole was some badge of honer.
I love that TruthBomb pulls out all the regular woman-hater language on the assumption that I’m a woman. They always make that mistake, don’t they?
@ ohlmann
I wonder if that’s where the English word ‘folly’ comes from; that can have a similar meaning.
Argle Bargle,
You’re almost certainly right, but I had some time to kill, so I thought I’d drop some links so now no one can come along and “those SJWs couldn’t even provide evidence.”
I know it’s not going to turn truther around though.
What can ever convince someone who’s determined to believe that it’s more likely that a few women spent two years harassing themselves for attention than it is that some angry assholes actually harassed and threatened them?
But we get so many false neutrality trolls around here, it’s worth taking away any potential ammo from them.
Also what happened to his former contention that Imaginary Petal is wrong because they throw around insults? Because he’s being pretty insulting. in fact his original post about how we’re all liars in a “hugbox” isn’t exactly polite either. Guess the rules of debate only apply to us and not to him.
@Truth Bomb
The only discipline that can provide “proof” of anything is mathematics. Science deals in evidence, not “proof.”
So does the legal system. So does, well, like I said–everything but pure math.
You’ve been given all the evidence needed for a slam-dunk inductive case against GG.
By demanding “proof,” you’re demonstrating that you just aren’t bright enough to comprehend it.
Sorry, kid. You fail at argument. Consult a critical thinking textbook. And better luck next time.
He’s so brave. So very brave.
Harrassment modus operandi. And a gamergater supporter. Shocking correlation! But I’m sure they’re unrelated.
I love how this kid thinks he’s dropping ~TRUTH BOMBS~ when his posts are basically the internet comment section equivalent of an elevator fart
Also, Godwin’s Law is just ‘as any internet debate continues, the chances of one side comparing the other to Nazis approaches 1’. The original law doesn’t say anything about winners or losers; that is a corollary that was added later.
‘Fatrelle’? Whoa.
How many “random trolls” have to harass someone in the name of gamergate before one comes to the conclusion that gamergate is nothing more than a collection of random trolls?
There’s never been one gamergater that’s come here who doesn’t talk exactly like these “random trolls” that totally don’t represent gamergate.
If any of them were truly anti-harassment and pro-ethics in games journalism, they’d disavow the “random trolls” and show proper horror at their behavior rather than attack the victims of the “random trolls” and insult the people standing up for them. And they’d start over with a clean slate and name their movement something else because the well is poisoned.
We’ve long since passed the point where we’re committing association fallacy by linking gamergate to harassers. It is they who are clearly no true Scotsmanning.
RAGE and TEARS! Omfg.
Also apparently the GG ellipsis is twice as long as the typical ellipsis, and 3 times as long as the MRA version.
Corrolary to Godwin’s law : when someone have a totally undefensible and absurd position he is forced to keep so that his world don’t collapse, the probability that he will abuse the Godwin’s law as a last ressort is approximatively 100%
By the way, you’re obnoxious, but not convincing. You seem better at having your eye wide shut than think by yourself and look at the evidences.
I love how Truthbomb is assuming that the tweets in IP’s link must be false flags.
I mean, Anita maintaining over 80 unique fake accounts each week with adequate content to be believable straw-villians for the sole purpose of using each account 1-2 times per week to attack herself (with the exception of 2 accounts selected to hurl 4+ invectives) is just so much more believable than the alternative!
I mean, there’s no way there’s actually anyone on the web who self identifies as a GGer and spews twitter abuse.
That’s just ridiculous.
It must be SJWs spending inordinate amounts of time to create troll accounts and then trolling themselves for sympathy. That’s just so much more plausible.
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