There are some who see the seemingly unlikely ideological romance between anti-bullying-activist-turned-bully-ally Candace Owens and Gamergate as a bit of a con-job.
In this view, the gullible Owens is being manipulated by cynical GGers and assorted far-right ideologues who’ve descended upon her en masse to assure her that her paranoid fantasies are true — particularly when they involve the very women that Gamergate has harassed most relentlessly. It’s a sort of cultic love-bombing, ironically based around hate.
There’s certainly an element of truth to this theory — and you can find plenty of examples of Owens’ gullibility in my previous posts on L’affaire Owens, or just by taking a look at her Twitter feed.
But Owens isn’t the only one here with starry eyes. Just as Owens has been seduced by GGers telling her exactly what she wants to hear, so GG’s True Believers have been seduced by her conspiracy theories. This isn’t, in other words, just a case of exploitation; it is also something of a folie a deux.
“This is probably THE BIG ONE!” an enthusiastic GGer called darkpowrjd gushed in a heavily-upvoted comment on the Kotaku in Action subreddit, the main GG hub on Reddit, several days ago.
Candace Owens, for all her faults, could be [the person] who vindicated GG for two YEARS of what they have been accused of doing en masse.
You’ll have to excuse darkpowrjd’s somewhat tangled language; they’re a little excited.
Yeah, this could be one of the most elaborate traps ever set up for GG to fall into, and I wouldn’t put it past any of the LWs to have THAT elaborate of a plan set up, but I don’t think Owens would seriously be that willing to be the cog in that plan.
With that little bit of butt-covering out the way, darkpowrjd explains why Owens is truly the woman of Gamergate’s dreams.
I’m still cautious, but I’m starting to think more and more that this is really a thing that’s going on, and this was the one person that we’ve been waiting for that has the pull, power, and connections to blow the entire lid off of what we have already known.
She HAS THE POWER
As darkpowrjd sees it, the evil anti-GG conspiracy has
more or less been doing this to the GG movement as a damn WHOLE for two years now. Never being opposed, always getting a free pass, and always getting sympathy by playing the feminist card. No one dared to question them because of how many people they ended up getting on their side.
But now …
Ok, ok, I’ll try to restrain myself.
But they ran into someone that they couldn’t influence, buy out, or convince that easily. They ran into someone that had connections, but also was smart enough to pick up on some things, and put two and two together when things happened that seemed too coincidental to be just a coincidence.
Forget what I just said about restraining myself.
The fact that media outlets tended to react to Gamergate with skepticism, if not outright hostility, couldn’t possibly be that it was obviously a hate crusade pushing perhaps the stupidest conspiracy theory the world has ever known. No, it must have been the fault of … the people Gamergate hates the most!
Now, think about this: how many media outlets do you think this team of Signal, Quinn, and Harper did this too? How many got this treatment, and were too scared (or just willing to play along or even agree with them on everything) to do anything or say anything? … Think about how LONG this might have been going on, or how many more people were caught up in this web, and how far along does this conspiracy actually go? How far down did this rabbit hole go?
I’m pretty sure the only holes that GGers have explored have been entirely self-dug.
All the “neutral = pro” comments, anyone who did so much as to try to get both sides of GG getting bitched at, the NeoGAF bannings that didn’t make any sense … everything that had ever happened that GG got blamed for because they EXISTED!
Or perhaps GG got blamed for a lot of things because it’s a movement made up largely of harassers and trolls that routinely does a lot of pretty awful things?
darkpowrjd accuses evil anti-GG “Journos” of an assortment of terrible misdeeds, including “continu[ing] to poke the bear every chance they got” and “gamedropping,” which Urban Dictionary defines as the sinister SJW “practice of dropping a #GamerGate mention into a totally unrelated article in an attempt to drive clicks and controversy.”
It is hard indeed to imagine a crime more horrific than the journalistic practice of occasionally paying attention to Gamergate.
ALL of that (and THEN some) could be exposed with one single person who might’ve not have even been aware of what she was about to do.
And quite the exposer Owens has been. So far her longest and most passionate “expose” involved a Washington Post story that never ran but that Owens was sure would have been full of libels against her.
Owens is saying that she isn’t a conspiracy theorist. But every theorist might be thinking they hit the damn jackpot when reading this and knowing how this has probably been going on for 2 plus years now.
In the sense that, yes, Gamergate has been energetically spinning conspiracies out of nothing for “2 plus years now” and Owens is now doing the same.
The reason Zoe’s group is running to try to get things under control is because Owens hit all 7’s here, and she wants to cash out.
Well, no. Quinn was concerned that Owens’ proposed bully-doxxing site could be easily abused by bullies.
Ironically, Gamergaters themselves were making very similar criticisms, at least until Owens started attacking some of Gamergate’s most-hated (and most-harassed) enemies.
It could be the beginning of the end for blaming Gamergate for everything.
And there’s Gamergate in a nutshell.
From the very start, even before it had a name, Gamergate has been a “movement” of gamers against criticism of games and gamers — and ultimately, of Gamergate as well.
Oh, sure, most Gamergaters don’t mind games criticism based on game mechanics, or whether or not a game is “fun” to play. But they don’t like any criticism that might in any way reflect badly on them. That’s why Anita Sarkeesian sent so many gamers into hysterics simply for noting that, yes, a lot of games are really pretty sexist — because by extension, this suggests that the gamers buying and playing these games in record numbers might just be an eensy weensy bit sexist themselves.
And that’s why the now infamous “gamers are dead” articles inspired such fury, transforming what had been a harassment campaign against “uppity” women in video games into a putative campaign for “ethics in games journalism” — with the main “ethical” failure of games journalists implicitly defined as “saying anything bad about us.”
The repellent fantasy author and sometime game developer Vox Day let the not-so-cute cat out of the bag in an interview with internet talk show host David Pakman last year, declaring that
what Gamergate is fundamentally about is the right of people to design, develop and play games that they want to design, develop and play without being criticized for it.
Vox later walked this back a little, saying he didn’t really mean that gamers and game developers should be immune from criticism. But you don’t need to be a Freudian to suspect that Vox’s slip revealed what he actually thinks.
Owens is also easily offended by criticism, and seems to think so highly of her own opinions that she assumes anyone critical of them cannot possibly be sincere, and therefore must be part of some terrible conspiracy.
It’s no wonder she and Gamergate get along so well.
H/T — r/BestOfOutrageCulture
I love that “TruthBomb” as come out firmly in opposition to hugs. Hugs are for the weak and womanly!
“I always find it adorable when I see trolls with names like TruthBomb. Especially when they’re being so obviously disingenuous. I especially love it when they try this so late in the game. Like dude no one actually believes gamergate is anti harassment. You might have fulled a couple gullible saps two years ago but now? Come on.”
If GG is not anti-harassment, why is GG siding with anti-bullying activist Candace Owens? More importantly, why are Quinn, Harper, and Wu siding against her?
Try thinking for yourself for once. You might like it.
Truth bomb,
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/10/26/sxsw-panel-on-harassment-cancelled-due-to-harassment-no-really/
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/04/03/randi-harper-gamergate-critic-and-anti-online-harassment-activist-was-swatted-last-night/
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2015/02/01/gamergate-may-be-fading-but-its-harassment-never-ends/
I’m afraid that I’ll have been ninja’d while I was gathering these and that too many links will put me in moderation. More to come probably.
@ Truth Bomb,
do you have any evidence that Sarkeesian has been faking her harassment? Shouldn’t she be innocent until proven guilty?
@TruthBomb,
No more than you can prove that *good* tweets/comments regarding “ethics in game journalism” came from gamergaters.
There is no index of GamerGate membership, @TruthBomb, so anyone can pick up the flag and wave it around. If you want to prevent these people from hijacking your movement, you need to fight them – organizing and distinguishing yourself from them is one way to do that. Otherwise you get related with them and their tactics. Sorry, that’s just how the world works.
Not that you people haven’t been told this ad nauseam. Almost like you want to use the “ethics” nonsense as a cover for the harassment or something.
“I’m not the one who said this, you fucking moron. I just pointed out the fact that you either misread the comment or are being dishonest.”
Ah the insults come out. Take a chillpill and let’s stick to the facts shall we? Although I suspect right now you’re sending an angry letter to the site moderator demanding I be banned for questioning your narrative.
So… back to the original question… is there any ***PROOF*** that ***GAMERGATE*** supports harassment?
PLEASE REMEMBER: Criticism is NOT harassment. And you don’t get to assume any random troll on the internet is automatically a GamerGater. All actions must be FORENSICALLY linked to the alleged perpetrator, or it’s just as plausible to say Quinn/Harper/Wu and the rest of their little regressive-left cabal did it themselves for sympathy.
To quote a recent addition to this thread “Where’s the proof?”
“No more than you can prove that *good* tweets/comments regarding “ethics in game journalism” came from gamergaters.
There is no index of GamerGate membership, @TruthBomb, so anyone can pick up the flag and wave it around. If you want to prevent these people from hijacking your movement, you need to fight them – organizing and distinguishing yourself from them is one way to do that. Otherwise you get related with them and their tactics. Sorry, that’s just how the world works.
Not that you people haven’t been told this ad nauseam. Almost like you want to use the “ethics” nonsense as a cover for the harassment or something.”
So you’re admitting you can’t prove ANYTHING, because the internet isn’t real life and any random troll could be CLAIMING to be GG just to stir shit. Thank you for admitting my point.
Sure, let’s play this game.
There’s one and only group of people who seem to hate Sarkeesian and who spend a LOT of time talking about her, making youtube videos about her, writing articles about her, tweeting about her, etc. That group is GamerGate.
Thunderf00t, a prominent GamerGater on youtube, has at least 30 videos explicitly about Anita Sarkeesian. The comment section to his videos are full of people raging about Sarkeesian 24/7.
Do you honestly and truly believe that this group of GamerGaters have zero overlap with the people harassing Sarkeesian and others?
If so, who do you think is doing it, and what’s your evidence?
I’m working off pretty good evidence here. A person is clearly hated by a group of people, so when the person is the subject of harassment we can assume that the harassers come from that group of people, especially when their objection to the person is consistent with what we always hear from said group.
Note: This is good evidence. I know you’re asking for 100% PROOF, which shows your utter dishonesty.
@Truth Bomb,
GGers are siding with Owens because they hate Harper and Quinn more than they hate Owens. Prior to Owens picking a very public feud with Quinn and Harper, people from both sides of the GG debate were gunning for Owens; even the people now supporting her think her web site is a terrible idea.
Quinn and Harper opposed Social Autopsy because its good intentions would have been subverted into a doxxing web site. Quinn tried to explain this Owens and it back fired.
@TruthBomb
If you can’t handle mild insults, then get the fuck out of here. Go back to your alt-right hugbox and rot.
Thanks for disqualifying yourself from any intelligent discussion ever.
“There’s one and only group of people who seem to hate Sarkeesian and who spend a LOT of time talking about her, making youtube videos about her, writing articles about her, tweeting about her, etc. That group is GamerGate.”
This is a lie. You are distorting GamerGate, its beliefs, and its actions. If you want to know what GG stands for, why not go to an official website rather than believing what agenda driven media outlets tell you?
http://thisisvideogames.com/gamergatewiki/index.php
Aaand still waiting for PROOOOOOOOF
@Truthbomb,
(note, you can use the “quote” button to distinguish quotes from your text; it makes it easier for others to read. Might go a ways towards demonstrating some conversational respect)
I can prove certain things. I could, for example, create an index of the number of times “GamerGate” is mentioned in a harassing tweet towards an individual. I could then determine who receives the majority of these tweets (You can guess literally who would be the highest indexes of these tweets).
(I am a data scientist; I know how to construct these figures)
You can claim they’re trolls, of course. not true gamergaters. Thing is, anyone can be a gamergater. The price for entry is claiming to be a gamergater. That’s it. You want to make a more exclusive club? Then go ahead. Right now? gamergate is responsible.
Scientifically
@TruthBomb
There’s no “official website” for GamerGate. GamerGate is a bunch of nazis on 8chan and Twitter. You are being judged by your actions, not by what you say your actions are.
More proof! And no, I’m not spending hours tracking down original sources. All of David’s posts link to them, so it’s easiest to go through the archives and link WHTM posts.
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/12/06/read-this-how-zoe-quinns-angry-ex-boyfriend-not-only-started-what-became-gamergate-but-directed-it-behind-the-scenes/
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/10/18/storify-time-gamergate-rs-with-ugly-histories-of-harassment-and-more-amazing-stuff-from-the-tweeter/
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/10/14/anita-sarkeesian-cancels-talk-at-utah-state-after-receiving-threat-of-another-montreal-massacre/
I’ll be back with more.
“If you can’t handle mild insults, then get the fuck out of here. Go back to your alt-right hugbox and rot.”
And there are the SJW rage and tears……. I’d say there right on schedule but actually it usually takes longer than this before they break down and start screaming that white men OPPRESS them with their facts and evidence.
I probably won’t be posting here much longer, because this is the point where your kind start spamming bogus “abuse” reports to ban that mean triggering unbeliever. 😉
@TruthBomb
Gamergate has always been synonymous with harassment.
When Gamergaters decide to organize like an actual de-anonymized organization, you earn the privilege of arguing otherwise.
Until then: bummer.
TruthBomb:
“If GG is not anti-harassment, why is GG siding with anti-bullying activist Candace Owens? More importantly, why are Quinn, Harper, and Wu siding against her?”
Because She’s a useful idiot. They apose her becouse her idea would lead to more not less harassment. Something Gamergater’s were noting themselves before they saw how gullibleshe is I might add.
“Try thinking for yourself for once. You might like it.”
You came here spouting classic propaganda from the hate mob that is Gamergate. Why don’t you think for yourself instead of just following what the group says?
So, TruthBomb’s shtick is exactly the same as Holocaust deniers who bleat “just give me ONE PROOF”, and then dismiss all evidence because it isn’t “PROOF”.
Hey, Truthbomb?
Are you going to read my links?
Doesn’t matter. I’ll go get more anymore. That way every single other person reading this will know that you’re doing nothing but show your ass here.
Dude, you’re the one whining about being abused. Just go the fuck back to 8chan.
Sorry, there’s no “quote” button on my page; I surf without Java/script enabled for security reasons. I’ve tried enclosing your quoted text in HTML blockquote; I hope that works. If it does not, then I ask you please attribute any perceived “disrespect” to my quirky old-fashioned fondness for free speech and privacy rights.
Proves nothing. Those tweets could come from anybody including the target of the alleged “harassment”
But your arguing entirely from a false premise, so again, proves nothing. I might as well argue “Anita Sarkesian is a liar, Anita Sarkesian is a woman, therefore all women are liars.”
I like how Truthbomb continues to act like we’ve shown no proof despite the fact that he has noticeably ignored weirwoodtreehugger’s posts showing proof.
Godwin’s Law invoked. You lose. Bye bye cupcake 😉