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MRA: Women are good for a few things, like volleyball, porn, Honey Badgering

Women: Good at volleyball, several other things
Women: Good at volleyball, several other things

Don’t ever let it be said that all Men’s Rights Activists hate women so much that they can’t recognize any contributions that women have ever made to civilization.

In the Men’s Rights subreddit, one brave soul named omegaphallic recently stood up to give two cheers to the ladies:

Yeah, saying women hardly ever produce scientific or cultural stuff is bullsh*t, and it makes the MRM look bad.

So let’s hear it. What have the little ladies done?

Some of the best actors, musicians, volleyballs players, writers, pornstars, plus there are some really good female scientists now adays.

Well, that’s an interesting list, omegaphallic. But it seems a little … incomplete.

Hell even in the MRM, the honeybadgers are a major cultural influence, amoung other women.

Ah, I knew there was something missing! The Honey Badgers truly are some of the most accomplished women the world has ever seen, especially when it comes to getting people to send them money for completely ridiculous lawsuits.

Look just because we had a genuine conflict with feminists, and women have sexist advanatges like the pussy pass, doesn’t mean there aren’t awesome a talented women out their.

Yeah, I mean, they have things way easier than us, but you know, some of them aren’t totally incompetent, especially when it comes to the volleyballing, the porning, the Honey Badgering.

I support the MRM to fight discrimination against men and to fight feminist lies and corruption, not to just dump on women for sh*ts and giggles.

I actually tend to like alot of women and enjoy their company for its own sake, so I hate it when some guys act like MRM cliches.

Alot of women, huh?

alotofwomen

You’re welcome!

H/T — r/againstmensrights

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@Victorious Parasol
Thank you for the suggestion, I will check out the Yellowrock series.

guest
guest
8 years ago

@C.A.Collins That is it, thank you!! I recognised the cover(s) as soon as I found a link.

I’m going to add Joanna Russ to this very long list, particularly this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Suppress_Women%27s_Writing

Catalpa
Catalpa
8 years ago

Has Katherine Addison been mentioned in this thread yet? The Goblin Emperor was one of my favorite books to come out in the last couple years.

(Mark me down as another fan of Tamora Pierce. Kel is my fave, followed by the Circle group.)

guest
guest
8 years ago

I just ordered the first one, and have just discovered there are seven more…. Trying to decide whether I should be pleased or dismayed….

Shaenon
8 years ago

(I love your work – the sheer heart in it always makes me feel better.)

Hearing that makes me feel better in return.

jack
jack
8 years ago

Simone wasn’t the first to change Red Sonja’s back story, Brian Reed had removed the rape background and no sex vow back in Dynamite’s first Red Sonja series. Simone wasn’t the first to change the costume either. Eric Trautmann put her in a variation of her original mail shirt and leather pants back in Dynamite’s first series. Very little Simone did to change Sonja were actually firsts for the character.

Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
Subtract Hominem, the Renegade Misandroid
8 years ago

There’s a terrific historian of the US Civil War named Drew Faust. She’s also got a day job as president of an obscure little institution called Harvard University, but women are only good for the porn and FeMRA-ing, right?

Zatar
8 years ago

Oh! I forgot! Robin Hobb! In particular the Liveship Traders series. She writes a really strong ensemble cast who are all really interesting, flawed complex people. I especially love how most of the viewpoint characters see the world in a extremely different way and are unable to understand each-other because of it. It also has a really unique and interesting fantasy setting. Trigger warning for rape though.

Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

Wow, jack, I’ve never seen someone use mantears to split hairs, before. You could go on the road with that talent.

Paul
Paul
8 years ago

And I don’t give out my name to people at random on the internet, soz.

But I have provided you with all the information you need to find it for yourself.

Ok, you won’t explicitly give your name, but I should be able to follow the clues and find your book.

Sorry, I’m just not that interested in playing silly games with you.

katz
8 years ago

Ok, you won’t explicitly give your name, but I should be able to follow the clues and find your book.

Sorry, I’m just not that interested in playing silly games with you.

That’s OK, you can just read all the other books we mentioned in this thread. The majority of them are widely-read books by well-known authors, essential reading for any scholar of literature by women.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

Pshaw, katz. I’m sure Paul has already read all of them. Otherwise, how could that original rock-solid “there are no good contemporary female authors” assessment come about?

isidore13
isidore13
8 years ago

I love how that is Paul’s entire response to a thread literally bursting with suggestions for contemporary female authors. Wah wah manbaby tears wah wah wah.

Diana
Diana
8 years ago

Lurker here, but I feel this thread would be remiss without mentioning Arundhati Roy (if she was already mentioned I missed it.) Since Paul’s list of women authors seems to revolve around school reading lists, Roy is right at home – God of Small Things is not only brilliantly written (as well as the only story so traumatising that has ever left me feeling uplifted) but it is a popular A Level book for English students.

I’d also like to second Ann Leckie, she was briefly mentioned but as a woman author whose first novel won “all of science fictions most prestigious awards” (5 of them according to the back of my copy) she deserves another mention; first for being a great author and second for winning so many awards as an unknown in what is still stereotyped as a man’s category.

Finally I’d like to mention Jennifer Donnelly. I doubt Paul would like it (it is literally a book following a woman’s life, how terrible) but The Tea Rose follows a woman from Ireland to America and despite being the kind of story I normally can’t stand, it captivated me. I don’t know how, but it is now one of my favourite books and everyone looking for a lovely afternoon novel should read it.

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
8 years ago

Paul, you’re a gem. Come back when you’ve read at least a handful of these books – hey, even just two or three to start with – and have a nice chat about contemporary woman authors.

There’s a lot of sci-fi and YA on the thread so I thought I’d mention something in another field; for some crime/detective reading including exceptionally well-written (and prize-winning) examples of the genre, try Sara Paretsky’s V.I. Warshawski series. Even the first one is a good read – and they just get better and better; her background research, character development, meticulous plotting, pacing, spirit of place (Chicago) and frankly just about everything is the bee’s knees :-).

guest
guest
8 years ago

I don’t know why V. I. Warshawski reminds me of this (I think I may have run across them at about the same time), but I’ll go ahead and mention one of my guilty pleasures, Janet Evanovich.

LindsayIrene
LindsayIrene
8 years ago

For mysteries/thrillers, I would recommend Denise Mina’s Paddy Meehan books. (Also, Nicci French’s Frieda Klein novels, but they’re written by a and husband and wife team, so only 50% female.)

Fabe
Fabe
8 years ago

@varalys the dark

There appear to be more women artists than writers knocking about the world of western comicdom, my personal favourite being Fiona Staples who makes Brian K.Vaughan’s “Saga” story so compelling.

Fiona is a wounderful artist . I was at the Calgary Comic Expo yesterday and was able to get a signed print of The Will with Lying Cat.

Zatar
8 years ago

I am very grateful to our troll for bringing about such a wonderful discussion. This is the first time that I’ve ever bookmarked one of these pages. Thanks Paul!

katz
8 years ago

And in 18 months, you’ll be able to read my debut novel.

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weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

That’s great news!

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Let us know when it’s published and I’m sure we’ll buy copies.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
8 years ago

Congrats!

katz
8 years ago

Thanks, you guys 🙂

throwaway
throwaway
8 years ago
kupo
kupo
8 years ago

Congrats!
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