Don’t ever let it be said that all Men’s Rights Activists hate women so much that they can’t recognize any contributions that women have ever made to civilization.
In the Men’s Rights subreddit, one brave soul named omegaphallic recently stood up to give two cheers to the ladies:
Yeah, saying women hardly ever produce scientific or cultural stuff is bullsh*t, and it makes the MRM look bad.
So let’s hear it. What have the little ladies done?
Some of the best actors, musicians, volleyballs players, writers, pornstars, plus there are some really good female scientists now adays.
Well, that’s an interesting list, omegaphallic. But it seems a little … incomplete.
Hell even in the MRM, the honeybadgers are a major cultural influence, amoung other women.
Ah, I knew there was something missing! The Honey Badgers truly are some of the most accomplished women the world has ever seen, especially when it comes to getting people to send them money for completely ridiculous lawsuits.
Look just because we had a genuine conflict with feminists, and women have sexist advanatges like the pussy pass, doesn’t mean there aren’t awesome a talented women out their.
Yeah, I mean, they have things way easier than us, but you know, some of them aren’t totally incompetent, especially when it comes to the volleyballing, the porning, the Honey Badgering.
I support the MRM to fight discrimination against men and to fight feminist lies and corruption, not to just dump on women for sh*ts and giggles.
I actually tend to like alot of women and enjoy their company for its own sake, so I hate it when some guys act like MRM cliches.
Alot of women, huh?
You’re welcome!
H/T — r/againstmensrights
Hey, speaking of brilliant women, don’t post an alot without linking to Allie Brosh at hyperbole and a half, no?
Also, i totally second Tove Jansson. She’s written a lot of fiction, brilliant sort stories about old gay guys, was a lesbian.
@calmdown
Felicia Day? That’s terrific!
I know what you mean about being nervous. I get pretty nervous about some things too, so if and when I do them, I congratulate myself. A lot.
And you shocked each other! There’s got to be some wonderful symbolism in that!
Been lurking here for yonks, but this is the thread that makes me finally start commenting! Seeing as Finnish youth & speculative fiction writers have been mentioned, I’d like to nominate my old friend Anu Holopainen – definitely a badass lady. Similarly, Australian writer and activist Leonie Stevens. Finally, while we’re talking Christie, I don’t think we can go on without mentioning her fellow Detection Club President, Dorothy L. Sayers, whose works include some of the clearest statements of feminism I’ve ever read.
Adding to the list of contemporary authors is Japanese mystery/horror author Kanae Minato. She’s received many awards although be warned, her stories are not for the faint of heart.
@ bluecat
Italian folk tale?
Re: women authors
There’s a literary quiz on Radio 4. At the end they do a bit where the panelists do famous books but in the style of different authors. There was a particularly good one with ‘Trainspotting’ as written by Nancy Mitford.
(On topic: I like Nancy Mitford)
As for gender flipping with pen names, I like the bit in Blackadder where it transpires Jane Austin is actually a man “with a beard the size of a rhododendron bush”.
I love Kaari Utrio, but apparently none of her novels have been published in English (many are available in German or Swedish). No wonder the English Wikipedia article has a note on relevancy.
That the lengthy article exists, tells you she haz fandom.
Sinisalo’s Not Before Sundown won a Tiptree award in 2004. This was a Big Deal in Finnish scifi community.
@Kat
Yeah I’m hoping for electronically transferred creativity, but would settle for naturally red hair 🙂
I don’t think they’ve been mentioned, so…
Ann Leckie, who won the 2013 Hugo for Best Novel with her first and is nominated again this year for the third in the trilogy.
Julian May, for her Saga of the Exiles which is both sci-fi and a retelling of the origins of the Tuatha Dé Danann and the Fir Bolg.
Madeleine L’Engle, JK Rowling, Anne Lamotte, Barbara Kingsolver, Jhumpa Lahiri.
If we’re including poetry…Sylvia Plath, Anne Sexton, Mary Oliver, Sharon Olds, Louise Gluck, Jane Kenyon.
I can’t believe I forgot to mention Dorothy Sayers last night. Also, Amanda Cross, Esther Friesner, Patricia C. Wrede, Jane Yolen, Pamela Dean, and Patricia McKillip.
I like how Paul just forgot Rowling. Likely the most important fiction novelist of our time, man? Nice save, but still…
I also like how this has just become a author naming exercise, so here goes, I guess…
Screenwriting totally counts so: Tina Fey (SNL for 8 years, 30 Rock for 7), Callie Khouri (Oscar for Thelma and Louise, 1991), Gillian Flynn (Gone Girl), Meg LeFauve (Cowrote Inside Out), Ava Duvernay (Cowrote Selma), Rebecca Sugar (Adventure Time & Steven Universe), Melissa Rosenberg (ignore Twilight and focus on Jessica Jones; girl’s gotta eat), both Wachowskis (Matrix), and so on…
Also, you can look up and down the manga scene. Toboso Yana’s Kuroshitsuji, for example, is brilliant:
http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30700000/Grell-grell-kuroshitsuji-30747570-399-223.gif
Grell Sutcliffe, badass Grim Reaper, flamboyant transwoman, has a chainsaw in 1885, laugh riot. If Grell isn’t indicative of a good (or at least creative and fun) writer, I dunno what is
I have to say Mandy Sayer, especially Dreamtime Alice
Has someone mentioned Tana French? She is an excellent Irish writer of crime fiction. I loved all her books in the Dublin series. I plowed right through them.
The reason why I plug so many sci-fi/fantasy writers is because I’m kind of involved with the scene in Finland. However, many of them also write other things, including factual research.
Let’s plug someone who I have met during GUFF swap: Gillian Polack.
It’s normally a facile argument that X active nowadays just aren’t as good as the best output of the careers of Y and Z, chosen from all of human history.
But we might be in a golden age for women authors, caused by a reduction in the height of sexist walls.
Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie
But I don’t read fiction very often. :/
Does Dianna Wynne Jones count, or is she tragically five-years-too-late to reference? Deus ex machina endings aside, I absolutely loved Dark Lord of Derkholm and Year of the Griffon.
Welcome, Otis IV, and thanks for the recommendations!
N. K. Jesmin and the late lamented Eugie Foster.
Every dudebro who’s taken the red pill or worn a Guy Fawkes mask loves the Wachowski sisters, right?
@Victorious Parasol
The Dresden Files or The Codex Alera? When my depression hit The Dresden Files was the only series that I could maintain an attachment to. I’d be interested in a series by a non-male that had similar general qualities to The Dresden Files (film noir wizard detective, dark, “the kitchen sink” when it comes to the supernatural…)
Oh man, Poe’s law in effect. I thought Paul was doing a parody because his original post started with “Actually” and was so weirdly and irrationally authoritative on such an expansive subject.
@Victorious Parasol – That I adore about half of the authors you listed makes me want to check out the other half.
I know we’ve moved on a bit… but I just remembered.
HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOTTEN PATRICIA C WREDE?
She’s light and fluffy fantasy, but I’ll be darned if Dealing with Dragons wasn’t one of the formative books of my childhood. I’m not tall and I can’t cook cherries jubilee, but the fencing and the being okay with yourself even if no one else is? Those were important.
I know it’s kid books, but sometimes I think children’s and young adult literature is actually the most important lit there could ever be, because exposure to ideas in youth seems a heck of a lot more powerful than trying to adjust opinions in adulthood.
That’s just my feel, and I haven’t looked at any studies, so I could be way off base.
Just, when I think about books that helped create the person I am today, it’s almost always the books I read between when I was 10 to 17.