Don’t ever let it be said that all Men’s Rights Activists hate women so much that they can’t recognize any contributions that women have ever made to civilization.
In the Men’s Rights subreddit, one brave soul named omegaphallic recently stood up to give two cheers to the ladies:
Yeah, saying women hardly ever produce scientific or cultural stuff is bullsh*t, and it makes the MRM look bad.
So let’s hear it. What have the little ladies done?
Some of the best actors, musicians, volleyballs players, writers, pornstars, plus there are some really good female scientists now adays.
Well, that’s an interesting list, omegaphallic. But it seems a little … incomplete.
Hell even in the MRM, the honeybadgers are a major cultural influence, amoung other women.
Ah, I knew there was something missing! The Honey Badgers truly are some of the most accomplished women the world has ever seen, especially when it comes to getting people to send them money for completely ridiculous lawsuits.
Look just because we had a genuine conflict with feminists, and women have sexist advanatges like the pussy pass, doesn’t mean there aren’t awesome a talented women out their.
Yeah, I mean, they have things way easier than us, but you know, some of them aren’t totally incompetent, especially when it comes to the volleyballing, the porning, the Honey Badgering.
I support the MRM to fight discrimination against men and to fight feminist lies and corruption, not to just dump on women for sh*ts and giggles.
I actually tend to like alot of women and enjoy their company for its own sake, so I hate it when some guys act like MRM cliches.
Alot of women, huh?
You’re welcome!
H/T — r/againstmensrights
@bluecat – Would I recognize your name? I was referring to mainstream published authors. You interpreted my words a bit too literally, of course I have not read every book ever written.
@Shalimar – Yes. Sorry you don’t like her style. Who are your favorites?
read James Tiptree, Jr.. She was a great writer.
Also, Bluecat interpreted your words just fine. She was making fun of how silly they were. The number of books you have read in your entire lifetime is fewer than the number of new books published just in the last week. The idea that anyone could know there are few good female writers right now is a complete joke.
I wouldn’t know, I’m not really into sci-fi.
Ayn Rand, a good writer.
Other than her unfortunate syntax, cardboard characters that rarely resemble human beings, plots as solid as an Estonian shawl, and an overwhelming belief in her superiority that prevented her from accepting criticism, yes, she was a good writer.
What do you think Atlas Shrugged is?
Or is it formal awards? My sister received a commendation (it would now be the Silver Award) at one of the International MANGA Awards in Japan for the book she wrote, and was flown there to receive it.
So I guess that would include Donna Tart, a recent Pulitzer Prize winner?
Alice Munro, Nobel Prize in Literature winner?
@Victorious Parasol
Mainly the syntax. I’m sure it was more readable in the original Russian.
@ Shalimar
A bad novel masquerading as philosophy that served as the holy writ for a cult of personality surrounding the writer.
@Shalimar – yes, there are elements of sci-fi in Atlas Shrugged. I wouldn’t call it a science fiction novel.
Off topic, but seriously, Ursula Le Guin is still with us – that woman should be a national treasure for the US. She’s amazing in so many ways – imagine the sheer willpower you’d need to do half the things she’s done.
Apparently there’s a documentary being made about her now, how awesome is that!
@VP – Ok, so you don’t her style of prose, can’t identify with her characters, and think she is arrogant. Who are your favorites?
I would suggest Margaret Atwood for Paul, but I suspect he’d see her dystopias as Utopias and rather miss the point. I highly recommend her recent speculative fiction trilogy to anyone interested in both a compelling story and an exploration of modern attitudes to technology, but particularly biotechnology. I can’t remember the first movel’s name, but the second is Oryx and Crake
@ Paul – I haven’t the faintest idea what you might or might not recognise. You’ve yet to convince us you’re capable of recognising your arse from your elbow.
And yes, I was indeed mocking the absurdity of your claims.
But it is all true, not one word of a lie, about the book – still selling pretty well worldwide, 4 years into publication.
It’s with Oxford University Press: not sure whether you would call that a “mainstream” publishing house, but it’s fairly well established.
It’s all true about the troll, too.
@Flora – thanks, I’ll check her out.
@bluecat – ok, send me a link, I’ll read your book
If TV counts (and I think it should, tbh, they are writers and storytellers), here’s a long list of very successful modern female writers. https://www.wbez.org/shows/wbez-blogs/15-female-tv-writers-you-should-know/5fd66ddb-dde2-415c-8de7-905cf8ae62e8
@Victorious Parasol
I’m not defending Rand. She was an abhorrent person and her philosophy tried to make a virtue out of what most people consider evil. That said, you can be a great writer even when you’re writing novels based on narcissistic selfishness. She wasn’t.
I’m a big fan of Connie Willis. She even had a good response to the sad puppies.
@ Paul
Nice try. I didn’t say I can’t identify with her characters. I said they were cardboard. They’re poorly written, ill-conceived, Mary-Sue chess pieces bearing little resemblance to real people.
As for favorite authors … a random sampling would include Diane Duane, Elizabeth Moon, Terry Pratchett, Jim Butcher, Douglas Adams, Christopher Fowler, Ursula Le Guin, Margaret Maron, Gail Carriger, Lois McMaster Bujold, Faith Hunter, Neil Gaiman, Nina Kiriki Hoffman, Christopher Lee (his autobiography is a treat), Barbara Hambly, and Phillip Pullman.
@ Shalimar
Oh, no worries – I didn’t think you were defending her.
@ Paul
I’m disappointed you haven’t read it! 🙁
You lied to me! I feel all let down now.
And I don’t give out my name to people at random on the internet, soz.
But I have provided you with all the information you need to find it for yourself.
A story that would completely fall apart if not for fake future technology like a perpetual motion machine and a cloaking device and unobtanium is science fiction. Atlas Shrugged would have no story if the science-fictiony elements were removed. The whole story hinges on hyper-competent people being able to invent sci-fi devices at will. Without those devices, no story exists.
Rand’s prose is too rigid and her tone too self-congratulatory to make for natural reading – and yet she was utterly convinced she was a genius, right down to the punctuation.
It’s odd – I quite like the ponderousness when it’s a tool for gothic and elaborate writing, but not when it’s a reflection of the entire thought process behind the novel.
@pitshade