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Goodnight, sweet Prince
Goodnight, sweet Prince

Prince has died, at the age of 57. So sad.

Very few details as yet.

Discuss, remember, pay tribute. No trolls,.

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Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

I swear this year is going to drop something really dreadful on us and this is just the beginning of it.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

I had always hoped I’d get a glimpse of him chilling at First Ave. It happened to other people around here from time to time. Now I never will.

Sorry if that sounds self centered, it was just honestly what I thought of.

AthVeg34F
AthVeg34F
4 years ago

FUCK NO. FUCK NO. I am not believing this.

I know people die and I know we’re always hearing about this or that celeb passing away (sometimes salaciously) but not Prince! He ushered in my puberty, and that of all of my friends. He was genius, talent, and mystery. I have entire Prince playlists I don’t know if I can listen to for a while now.

How I was hoping this was a sick troll who’d hacked in here and faked this thread.

Can’t put into words.

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

Yet another huge iconic figure who I have no personal connection to whatsoever. Can’t even name a single song. :/ Seemed like a cool dude though.

I’m still mourning Phife Dawg who died last month. And especially J Capri, a young and highly promising artist who I was very excited about, and who died in a traffic accident last December just when she’d had her first few hit songs. Sigh.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

Imaginary Petal: I’m in the same boat as you (though I do know at least a couple of his songs). I respected his skill and savvy, but he was never one of ‘my’ icons. To those who’ve lost a beloved artist, though, I extend my sympathies.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
4 years ago

57 is too young.

dreemr
dreemr
4 years ago

Prince was pivotal in American music. Played all his own instruments, wrote all his own songs. When he made it big, he remembered his roots and stayed in his hometown. He mentored many other artists, giving them a hand up.

Really a remarkable and amazing person. A groundbreaker. A cultural icon of a certain time and place.

The other night, my 14 year old decided to finally watch Tim Burton’s “Batman” and he loved it. We were talking about the soundtrack, which is primarily Danny Elfman (another genius in his own right, PAY HIM NO MIND, UNIVERSE!) and I mentioned that the song that was then playing was also by Prince. My son says, “Well, who doesn’t love Prince, right?”

Man, I am going to miss the Purple One.

Michael P
Michael P
4 years ago

“Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to get through this thing called life.”

Thank you, sir.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
4 years ago

I never heard a Prince song I didn’t like, and he had the most amazing style.

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Rest in peace, Prince.

makroth
makroth
4 years ago

Not again! Damnit, 2016! When will your killcount end? Does your cruelty and bloodlust have no bounds?

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
4 years ago

The other night, my 14 year old decided to finally watch Tim Burton’s “Batman” and he loved it. We were talking about the soundtrack, which is primarily Danny Elfman (another genius in his own right, PAY HIM NO MIND, UNIVERSE!) and I mentioned that the song that was then playing was also by Prince. My son says, “Well, who doesn’t love Prince, right?”

“Partyman” was actually the first ever Prince song I heard. He helped me get out country music and into stuff that was decent.

dreemr
dreemr
4 years ago

@Pandapool – yes, that’s one of them! Pure Prince – sexy, funky, playful, futuristic, sly, amused & amusing, technically flawless….

peaches
peaches
4 years ago

Ow. I’ve still left David Bowie mostly unmourned, since my father died the same day as him. But this one hurts. I’m still mostly convinced it’s not real.

I never saw him live, but I remember one super cool ‘fuck you’ he did. In 1984, the City Council tried to get his Purple Rain show cancelled because he was too obscene for children. It was unsuccessful, and the show was a huge success. But then, a couple of month’s later, he came BACK and performed another full show-on a Saturday afternoon.

A matinee, for the kids. That was hilarious then and it’s hilarious now. I wish I had been there.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
4 years ago

Prince was the David Bowie of my generation. Very sad! I’m over here for the Sad Prince Fans Virtual Cuddle Party if anyone wants to join in!

Jo
Jo
4 years ago

Awful news, we’ve lost one of the true greats. Nothing compares 2 U, you purple genius.

Also, because there hasn’t been a chance to mention it in any other threads, RIP Victoria Wood. Hilarious, insightful and utterly impervious to fashion or zeitgeist.

varalys the dark
varalys the dark
4 years ago

Ah hell, I’m 41 and he was a real icon of my teen years, so many of his 80’s songs transport me back to then. I was already reeling from the loss of Victoria Wood (UK comedian died yesterday) and now Prince is gone too. 🙁

Nequam
Nequam
4 years ago

For those with slightly more obscure musical fondnesses, Richard Lyons (the founder of Negativland) also died today at the age of 57.

WTF, 2016?

Nequam
Nequam
4 years ago

(On the personal side, things haven’t been going too badly. I can elaborate if anyone cares, or leave it for a less funereal open thread.)

Pietro_McM
Pietro_McM
4 years ago

I’m only a year younger. I owned a copy of the 1989 Batman soundtrack. Loved Batdance. He was a great, innovative, all round musician, with the same sort of fixation for the Sixties, that I had.

I’d also like to mention the passing of another brilliant all rounder, Victoria Wood, far too young at 62. Stand up comic, musician, writer, playwright, actress and more. Without exaggeration, whatever she turned her hand to her work was of the very highest quality. Very British and she understood, like Thoreau, that most people live lives of quiet desperation. Only, Wood was funnier.

Some of Victoria Wood’s best bits. Not by any means all. Seek out some more of her work. It’s worth it.

Prince & Victoria Wood. The World seems a little bit emptier.

tricyclist
tricyclist
4 years ago

Too young, too soon. And just one of many so far this year.

2016 should just fuck off, and make way for a less vicious year.

…oh, and…

KathleenB
KathleenB
4 years ago

Well, shit.

Youthful Indescretion
Youthful Indescretion
4 years ago

So many respected people have died recently that it’s bringing me down. I came home yesterday to news of Victoria Wood passing away. I don’t want to think about mortality this much, and can death start taking names from the “arseholes no one will miss” pile soon?

Banananana dakry
Banananana dakry
4 years ago

What is it WITH 20freaking16? All the cool people are dying! I’m afraid we’ll be left with just Kardashians and and and…. can I go back to bed now?

GiJoel
GiJoel
4 years ago

Man, he came to Australia in February. Wished I saw him. 🙁

Virgin Mary
Virgin Mary
4 years ago

Such sad news 🙁 he was a true legend.
We have lost too many great talents lately, David Bowie, Lemmy, Chris Squire. I was already sad to hear of the loss of the hilarious comedian Victoria Wood – she was a fantastic and funny woman. RIP

ThatBear
ThatBear
4 years ago

Goddammit. So far this year, I’ve lost both of my parents, a dog, and like half a dozen musicians that helped me get through the (previously) hardest parts of my life.

I don’t think we ever really had Prince, though. His funkiness cannot be contained by our ordinary universe. No one will ever convince me he was a human man, and not an avatar of the Eternal Funk.

I’m glad I got to share a planet with him for a while.

peaches
peaches
4 years ago

Shit, @thatbear, I’m down one parent so far myself. Also recovering from back surgery (almost ready to find a job!), and other general health fuckery.

What did we do?

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

RIP Prince. Just another reminder that any one of us can go at any moment. Get out there and live life to the fullest.

peaches
peaches
4 years ago

Damn right, @saphira. Write that book, practice that guitar, make a comic, bake some bread. Do stuff, that’s the best way to honor him. The man hated wasted time.

sevenofmine
sevenofmine
4 years ago

This just popped up in my twitter feed:

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

I was lucky enough to work with Prince during my roadie days. I won’t bore you with the anecdotes. Suffice to say, in an industry that can attract some real aresholes, he was a genuinely sweet guy with a wicked sense of humour and a knowledge of music that was quite literally encyclopaedic. A true prince amongst men if you’ll forgive the pun.

http://www.azquotes.com/picture-quotes/quote-compassion-is-an-action-word-with-no-boundaries-prince-81-70-04.jpg

Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
Hambeast, Social Justice Legbeard
4 years ago

Hey! 2016? Taking all the great people was 1967’s schtick, knock it off!!

Scylla Kat
Scylla Kat
4 years ago

Alan, please do bring anecdotes. All I have is knowing every note of Purple Rain and Batman inside out. As a crappy (but well educated!) musician myself, i’d love to know more about him as a person.

For me this really compounded the pain of Bowie — two sides of the same coin to me — sex and weirdness and talent. I can’t say which hurt worse, but I have been crying off and on for the past 24 hours.

Mike
Mike
4 years ago

For those with slightly more obscure musical fondnesses, Richard Lyons (the founder of Negativland) also died today at the age of 57.

Indeed very sad; there was also Tony Conrad a few weeks ago. 2016 is an awful year to be a pioneering musical figure.

Anyway, some links:

“Time Zones” by Negativland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCu4e_1MSCI

“Transit of Venus” by Tony Conrad and Hangedup:

Youthful Indescretion
Youthful Indescretion
4 years ago

Alan, I’d love to know more. I’m sorry that you lost someone you actually knew. God knows it’s been hard enough to hear about all these losses when I’ve never met any of them.

Catherwood
Catherwood
4 years ago

I think Prince has a lot of relevance to this particular blog, because he made people think about what being a man means, about sex and sexuality, and on and on. I have to figure he made a lot of MRA fellow travelers’s heads explode, and that can only be a good thing.

He also exemplified some things that might surprise a lot of people: he was extraordinarily dedicated to his craft, working hour after hour in the studio, playing the instruments, mixing the tracks until it sounded the way it was supposed to sound. The problems he had with his label (Warner Brothers) stemmed from the fact that he was TOO PROLIFIC, that he produced too mch work, of such high quality, that execs feared he would glut the demand. Amazing, elusive, weird, achingly talented, I don’t believe in an afterlife, but for Prince I’d make a special request.

Did I mention how broad-based his musical skills were? How he could rock the house, play a ballad, a searing rock solo, or a blues number with the best of them? His own colleagues, guitar gods of the day, talk in awe of his skills. Gonna miss that guy.

ultimateprotagonistnerd
ultimateprotagonistnerd
4 years ago

Nothing seems appropriate for me to post, except for some of his music of course.

Good night, Prince.

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
4 years ago

I want to make a comment on this thread, but I need to insert an image from my computer’s Pictures folder into that comment and either don’t know or forget how to do that on this site. Is there anyone here who can help me?

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Rambling anecdotes warning!

Back in the early 90s I was making a bit of extra cash for law school by working as a roadie (I’d bummed away a lot of my youth doing that).

One of my contacts is the trade asked of I’d be interested in doing some work for his purple majesty. You’d have to invent a time unit smaller than the Planck Unit for how long it took me to say ‘yes’.

Prince was a bit obsessive about performing. So whenever he did a major gig, like Wembley, he’d do another smaller gig afterwards with a scaled down band. That’s what he wanted us to crew; so there was a little gang of six of us to take care of that.

The first time we met the conversation went as follows:

“So what do we call you then?”
“You can call me anything you want except Prince or nigger”
“Can we call you Frank then?”
“If you like”

So Frank it was. He was such a cool chap. He’d turn up every evening before a gig. “Evening ladies”, and then we chat.

“Fuck man, you know a lot about music”
“What else is there?”
(Fair enough)

His band were amazing, and so friendly. Like I say, we got to meet a lot of arsehholes in that job. These guys were lovely though. And they were all equally obsessive about music. We used to lurk at the side of stage, quite often we’d just be chatting to the band as they played away. We got to a little routine where we’d come up with some soul or R&B song. No matter how obscure, we’d just yell it out. The band would all look at each other, then Prince would nod and they’d go straight into that song without missing a beat.

We got talking about the music scene generally. Prince explained about the club scene in the US and how he got started and we told him about Working Men’s Clubs. He was quite fascinated and amused by the concept. At one gig (Emporium, Oxford Street) he paused in th middle of his set to read out the tomobola numbers and the meat raffle. Cue lots of trendy punters wondering why they’d not got raffle tickets.

He was a bit contemptuous of people who came to the gig just to say they’d been to a private Prince gig rather than for the music. Combine that with a wicked sense of humour and we had some fun. At one gig he’d sealed off a section of the bar for us (he really took care of us). We had that velvet rope thing and everything. Later he came over with his then girlfriend and asked if he could come in.

“Sorry mate you can’t. But she can.”

He then wondered off pretending to look disappointed. Cue lots of stares from people wondering who the bunch of scruffy herberts were that Prince wasn’t cool enough to hang with.
(News of that incident spread round the world. Coincidentally a friend of mine was on holiday with the guy who owned the club and even they got to hear about it.)

Most of the memories though are just lolling around chatting about music. The guy’s knowledge is/(was 🙁 ) encyclopedic. Music seemed to be all he lived for (notwithstanding that he was very sociable). He said he was at his happiest in his recording studio just laying down tracks. Even at that stage he reckoned he had enough material for another 20 albums. Gawd knows how much there is now. I have mixed feelings about whether it should ever be released though.

Oh, and all the cables for the band’s equipment were wrapped in purple velvet. How cool is that! 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Test

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
4 years ago

@Nikki

I’m not sure if that can be done.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ Nikki

I think you need to upload the picture to a file hosting service and then link to that. I used to use photobucket but that just showed a link rather than the full picture (and now it won’t even do that) but I think people have mentioned that there’s a service that shows the actual picture.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

Rambling anecdotes warning!

Back in the early 90s I was making a bit of extra cash for law school by working as a roadie (I’d bummed away a lot of my youth doing that).

One of my contacts is the trade asked of I’d be interested in doing some work for his purple majesty. You’d have to invent a time unit smaller than the Planck Unit for how long it took me to say ‘yes’.

Prince was a bit obsessive about performing. So whenever he did a major gig, like Wembley, he’d do another smaller gig afterwards with a scaled down band. That’s what he wanted us to crew; so there was a little gang of six of us to take care of that.

The first time we met the conversation went as follows:

“So what do we call you then?”
“You can call me anything you want except Prince or n*gger”
“Can we call you Frank then?”
“If you like”

So Frank it was. He was such a cool chap. He’d turn up every evening before a gig. “Evening ladies”, and then we chat.

“Fuck man, you know a lot about music”
“What else is there?”
(Fair enough)

His band were amazing, and so friendly. Like I say, we got to meet a lot of arsehholes in that job. These guys were lovely though. And they were all equally obsessive about music. We used to lurk at the side of stage, quite often we’d just be chatting to the band as they played away. We got to a little routine where we’d come up with some soul or R&B song. No matter how obscure, we’d just yell it out. The band would all look at each other, then Prince would nod and they’d go straight into that song without missing a beat.

We got talking about the music scene generally. Prince explained about the club scene in the US and how he got started and we told him about Working Men’s Clubs. He was quite fascinated and amused by the concept. At one gig (Emporium, Oxford Street) he paused in th middle of his set to read out the tomobola numbers and the meat raffle. Cue lots of trendy punters wondering why they’d not got raffle tickets.

He was a bit contemptuous of people who came to the gig just to say they’d been to a private Prince gig rather than for the music. Combine that with a wicked sense of humour and we had some fun. At one gig he’d sealed off a section of the bar for us (he really took care of us). We had that velvet rope thing and everything. Later he came over with his then girlfriend and asked if he could come in.

“Sorry mate you can’t. But she can.”

He then wondered off pretending to look disappointed. Cue lots of stares from people wondering who the bunch of scruffy herberts were that Prince wasn’t cool enough to hang with.
(News of that incident spread round the world. Coincidentally a friend of mine was on holiday with the guy who owned the club and even they got to hear about it.)

Most of the memories though are just lolling around chatting about music. The guy’s knowledge is/(was 🙁 ) encyclopedic. Music seemed to be all he lived for (notwithstanding that he was very sociable). He said he was at his happiest in his recording studio just laying down tracks. Even at that stage he reckoned he had enough material for another 20 albums. Gawd knows how much there is now. I have mixed feelings about whether it should ever be released though.

Oh, and all the cables for the band’s equipment were wrapped in purple velvet. How cool is that!

kupo
kupo
4 years ago

@Nikki
I use imgur as an image host for that purpose. After uploading the file to your image host, you’ll have to right-click and select open image, then copy the url from the address bar. Just paste it into your post on its own line and it will automatically show the image.

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
4 years ago

This is so sad. When I found out Thursday, I saluted him by listening to several of his songs (including “Manic Monday,” which he gave to the Bangles) and by adding purple raindrops to my usual Thursday look: blue Muse 2nd Law tour t-shirt, matching blue eyeshadow, and hot pink lipstick.
If anyone’s interested, I can write a how-to post on my blog for the makeup look (tentatively called Purple Rain on a Blue Sky) and post the link here!

Anna
Anna
4 years ago

“If anyone’s interested, I can write a how-to post on my blog for the makeup look (tentatively called Purple Rain on a Blue Sky) and post the link here!” Please do! I’m interested!

I’m very sad for Prince. As this is an open thread however, I choose to distract myself with other things. For example, I rewrote the song “I’m Still Here” from the musical Follies to be as if it were being sung by Hillary Clinton about her life. The lyrics I kept the same are in bold, those I changed are not. Each line of my rewrite has the same amount of syllables as in the original, so it should be able to be sung to the same tune.

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen them all
And, my dear, I’m still here

Cattle futures scandal
Clinton Foundation one too, but I’m here

It Takes a Village had critics
Some said my pantsuits made them sick
Seen all my dreams disappear but I’m here.
I’ve washed the dishes, at work during one summer, but I’m here
Slimed fish in Valdez
Got fired from that to boot, but I’m here

I have been slandered by the best
Watched while the headlines did the rest
In the recession was I depressed?
Nowhere near, I kept on working through it and I’m here

I’ve been through Limbaugh, I failed the bar exam too, and I’m here
Travelgate scandal, Filegate, talk about my hair, and I’m here
Got through Whitewater, Bernie bros, Hillarycare too, Benghazi
Two thousand eight election, got through and I’m here
Got through the email scandal, and I’m here

I’ve gotten through Ken Starr and Lucianne Goldberg
Gee, that was fun and a half
When you’ve been through
Ken Starr and Lucianne Goldberg
Anything else is a laugh

Been through Lewinsky, I’ve been through Paula Jones too, and I’m here.
Gennifer Flowers, fracture, concussion and clot ,and I’m here
Been called a ‘Pinko’, commie tool, got through it and I’m here to rule
I should’ve gone to an acting school, that seems clear
Still someone said, “She’s sincere”, so I’m here

Sec. of State one day, next day my cough’s in the news, but I’m here
Up in polls Monday, Tuesday, campaign has the blues, but I’m here
First I’m another First Lady
Then I have a shoe thrown at me
I have careered from career to career
I’m almost through my memoirs, and I’m here

I’ve gotten through, “Hey, lady, aren’t you Bill’s wife?
Wow, what a doormat you are”
Or better yet, “I thought you were feminist
Whatever happened to that?”

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen ’em all
And, my dear, I’m still here

Cattle futures scandal
Clinton Foundation one too, but I’m here

I’ve run the gamut, A to Z
Three cheers and dammit, C’est la vie
I got through all of last year, and I’m here
Lord knows, at least I was there, and I’m here
[there in this case referring to the White House]
Look who’s here, I’m still here

Anna
Anna
4 years ago

Now I rewrote the song “I’m Still Here” from the musical Follies to be as if it were being sung by Queen Elizabeth II about her life. The lyrics I kept the same are in bold, those I changed are not. Each line of my rewrite has the same amount of syllables as in the original, so it should be able to be sung to the same tune.

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen them all
And, my dear, I’m still here
Plush velvet sometimes
Sometimes
dull ceremonies, but I’m here
I have had keyhole surgery
Been Queen the longest in Britain
Seen all my dreams disappear but I’m here.
I’ve seen my little sister die before me, but I’m here
Met the Saudi king
He’s an oppressive jackass, but I’m here

Visited dozens of countries
Even had some eggs thrown at me
In the depression was I depressed?
Nowhere near, I
then became the next queen and I’m here
I’ve been through taxes, Windsor and Wally’s affair, and I’m here
House broken into, fake news, and the Sex Pistols, and I’m here
I got through Diana’s tell-all, fire at Windsor, Crawfie too
Had heebie-jeebies for Kate and Will’s wedding
I got through republicans, and I’m here
I’ve gotten through Charles and even Camilla
Gee, that was fun and a half
When you’ve been through Charles and even Camilla
Anything else is a laugh
I’ve been to Oman, I’ve been to Zimbabwe too, and I’m here.
Had blanks shot at me, had to open the palace, and I’m here
Been called imperialist tool, got through it and I can still rule
I should’ve gone to an acting school, that seems clear
Still someone said, “She’s sincere”, so I’m here

Popular one day, next day it’s all on the rocks, but I’m here
Give a speech Monday, Tuesday, you’re laid up and ill, but I’m here
First you’re another cute Princess
Then someone’s mother, then you’re Queen
Then you career from booking to booking
I’m almost through my memoirs, and I’m here
I’ve gotten through, “Hey, lady, aren’t you whoozis?
Wow, what a looker you were”
Or better yet, “Sorry, I thought you were whoozis
Whatever happened to her?”

Good times and bum times, I’ve seen ’em all
And, my dear, I’m still here
Plush velvet sometimes
Sometimes
dull ceremonies, but I’m here
I’ve run the gamut, A to Z
Three cheers and dammit, C’est la vie
I got through all of last year, and I’m here
Lord knows, at least I was there, and I’m here
[there in this case meaning before she was Queen]
Look who’s here, I’m still here

Anna
Anna
4 years ago

The second one has some of the verses smushed together, but I’m sure you can figure it out by counting the syllables.