More inspiring news from the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit: One brave man has taken a stand for male freedom by turning down a job because he would have had to report to a woman. With thick-rimmed glasses, to boot.
Iamlikethewindbaby’s comrades in Going Their Own Way know just how he feels!
![xienxui 27 points 15 hours ago Every female boss I've ever had was a terrible micromanager, who's micromanaging destroyed productivity and bred resentment, and then they'd say things like "well since I'm a woman I have to work twice as hard to be considered half as good as a man". No sweety, you're just a bitch, and bad at your job - because you're a woman, yes, but that's besides the point. permalinkembedsavereportgive goldreply [–]aanarchist 3 points 3 hours ago seriously though it's so annoying how many women wonder why no one respects them. it's seems like she has to work harder because her baseline ability to get something done is so decidedly below an average males.](https://i0.wp.com/www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/twice.png?ssl=1)
Women and their vaginas, amirite fellas?
And what about those women who are going their own way? Sorry, I mean, those nasty old spinsters who never married because no man would have them?
And boy, those gals really hate us MGTOWs, huh?
Yeah, that’s right. You’re getting constantly fired because you’re so principled. Not because you’re an arrogant, hostile jerkwad who hates women.
Happen_On_A_Ciggy even agrees with the OP about those evil, scary … glasses!
But leave it to the lovely Ovendice — weren’t we just talking about him the other day? — to show up with a giant wall-o-text that cuts to the heart of the problem of women bosses, or even co-workers.
And that, of course, is the decorating. So, so much decorating.
Oh, and of course all those time-wasting false accusations.
Boy, it sure seems weird that women managers are always out when he gets in touch to set up sales meetings. I mean, what’s with that!?
It’s so weird. Whenever he arrives somewhere, it’s like all the women have just left!
MGTOWs! Although I’m a dude, I think I can speak for all women when I say that they really have no problem whatsoever with you guys going your own way — so long as wherever you go, it’s somewhere where they aren’t.
Hello.
Since i work at full time (i.e. not summer jobs), all my bosses have been women at +1, sometimes at +2, and the head of our administration is also a woman. And i never had a problem with the +1/+2. Everybody does the job, and that is all.
Economy must be nice on this guy if he can reject a job for such ludicrous reason.
Plus, are the glasses not part of the panoply of the hot boss/librarian/teacher/insert profession you like here ?
Have a nice day.
@occasional reader
That would imply that men other than them might like women in positions of authority. And we can’t have any views of sexuality outside 1950’s worldview.
I have been employed. pretty much continuously, for 45 years and I have known both male and female bosses. Precisely one man was an excellent boss, most were mediocre and a few were outright terrible. The women were generally competent and 2 were outstanding.
The only people I knew who moaned about female managers were the incompetents who loathed being called to account.
@kat
Those are grievous sins against the manly man, even thinking about them could earn the poor girl a /r/burningatthestake
I’m guessing “micromanagement” in this case means something more like “expects me to actually do my job”.
> OoglyBoggles
Maybe. But i wonder at which place comes the “hot/sexy boss” terms in porn research. Because i am quite sure going their own way does not mean they forbid it, and going 1950 would mean they accept, you know, “hairy” women, and they do not look like they are tolerating this.
Hmm… In fact, it is as if they can not fit any recent era…
I just cant get my head around how they’re all disrespecting their bosses for being women while simultaneously insisting that this is something that never ever happens. Like, how can they complain about women who say they have to work twice as hard to be respected? While they are literally pointing out that there is no amount of hard work that will ever get them to respect a feeeeemale boss?
Their logic. It is not…
Bacon,
Because they don’t do self awareness. Self awareness is misandry!
As a Brit my ultimate boss is a woman who wears glasses; and I think she does a great job.
She’s also managed to blag her way on to banknotes, so that must annoy our MRA friends.
And she’s a badass.
@ Alan – we’re ruled by a short woman in specs who can strip down and repair military vehicles, thanks to war service as a mechanic.
That must make us an entire nation of man- and women-ginas or something.
MGTOWs should definitely refuse to step onto our shores in case it’s infectious and any local ones are free to emigrate asap.
Glasses are a signal that women are using their brains and reading and looking at things clearly (including bad male behavior). A woman wearing glasses is in Serious Mode. She’s an adult. She’s literally focusing on something besides men. She’s not immediately sexually available. All of these things drive MGTOWs around the bend.
Translation: At the first hint of conflict, he’ll be out of there and back on the MGTOW subreddit, complaining how worthless women are. “Drama” is code for women who talk about their feelings and expect him to do something nice on Valentine’s Day. You’d better not disappoint him or else.
(I love the hypocrisy of “no drama or mind games, but I am going to abruptly withdraw my affection and walk away the minute you do something I don’t like”)
Warning: pedestal ahead!
@Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Holy cow, Buttercup! This guy is amazing! (That word gets used a lot. This guy truly is amazing–in the worst possible way.)
You have a lot of emotional stamina. I’m glad you’re out of there!
Glasses instead of contacts also implies she has chosen not to hide a flaw.
It signals there is something more important to her than being attractive to men. Whether it is because she is more comfortable or she prefers the esthetic of glasses, she is not putting HIS all important preference first.
So, she is clearly evil. Because a “good” woman exists entirely to please men.
Regarding women wearing glasses, maybe MRAs are now eschewing them as Too Smart. Or something.
In the olden days, a similarly sexist, condescending guy might see a glasses-wearing woman as Repressed. It would be his job to unlock her sexuality, which would of course then be directed at him alone. Sort of a Sleeping Beauty scenario.
Different decade. Different cliche. Same sexist origin. Same type of tiresome guy.
Blecch.
My worst boss – assistent manager (the manager’s son-in-law). He was supposed to fill in when the manager was out. Instead
he “worked from home” and his cell phone would “break.” He would come in at 4:50 with multipage hand written documents he needed typed that night – I got off at 5:00. Also he wouldn’t talk to some of the technicians he didn’t like.
Wait, what? Y because of X but X is besides the point? It seems like the set of things that cause Y and the set of things that are besides the point of Y would be non-intersecting. How does this work?
@lea
To these men, glasses are fetishised.
Maybe they hope the woman is blind without them so they can gaslight and drive her insane by hiding her glasses? I could see that being a proper MRA mind game. My mum did a similar thing to my (crazy) dad, she took his glasses away so he couldn’t drive or watch TV.
Ok, so maybe that’s wrong, but he was irresponsible and lazy, I guess an old school Patriarchist who beloved it his right to go out with his mates or watch the telly whilst she did all the housework.
“Show up with a pre-existing chip on your shoulder.”
Oh, the projection is strong with this one.
Huh, that’s funny, I really thought the point of MGTOW was to NOT make all your life decisions based on women.
These female managers, man, they are all ineffective assholes who spend too much time slacking off outside the office all day and also micromanaging like slavemasters all day. 90% to ALL OF THEM. I’ve heard of at least 4. And yet they have the nerve to think anyone generalises about them! AWALT, am I right, fellas?
And good fucking lord, @Buttercup Q. Skullpants, mouse shit in fortune cookies??? Seriously?? How do you… Who… WHAT?
I’m so, so sorry, he sounds like a very shitty shithead. Good story though!
@ maghavan
I think what he meant there is that he dislikes them because they’re bad at their jobs. The “fact” that feeeeemale is what causes them to be bad at their jobs is incidental as there could be any number of things that makes someone bad at their job.
That reasoning is internally consistent as long as you assume women’s incompetence as axiomatic.
I adore the precision of this number.
@Kat
Thanks, Kat. Me too, my friend. Me too. 🙂
There was a silver lining to working there. It was the catalyst I needed to get out of that field, and I also made some really good lifelong friends among my co-workers. We huddled together for warmth and support, and found ways to do end-runs around our boss’s explosive temper to get the work done and keep clients happy. We had a strong shared bond.
I really feel for the women who are managing the commenters above if they have a bunch of Ovendices (Ovendie?) all banding together to oppose them, though. I imagine nothing productive gets accomplished in those offices. The one common factor among MGTOW and the other various alt-right groups is that they will happily throw their workplace, their families, and their country under the bus in order to see their “enemies” get punished. As employees, they’re toxic. It’s not surprising that wherever they go, a cloud of behavior remediation meetings and harassment charges follows them. But it is hilarious watching them scratching their heads and trying to figure out why it keeps happening.
@Boogerghost – It was a cardboard box of fortune cookies that had been sitting in the basement for 4 or 5 years, which he wanted to send to clients as a thank-you for doing business with us*. I was appointed the official Taste Tester. It was only after I’d eaten it that I saw the box sitting on his desk with the large hole chewed in the corner, and the big nest of chewed up fortunes and cobwebs and mouse poop in the bottom. I felt sick for the rest of the day. HOW DO YOU NOT NOTICE THAT?!
*We didn’t get a lot of repeat business at that firm.
There’s a super simple way to avoid this. Don’t preach at work, let other people do their job in peace and shut up and do yours.
Unfortunately, some people have a difficult time with this concept, and few things are more annoying than working with proselytizers who don’t understand that the workplace is not the place for the soapbox and no one cares about their pet beliefs.
Upon brief reflection, wasting a lot of time standing around idly and having a gabfest about inappropriate work topics seemed to be a mainly be a problem with male co-oworkers (usually planting their gaggle right in everyone’s way so others had to dance around them in order to work).
Then whenever women would exchange some brief conversation while continuing to hustle, cue the oblivious unironic comments about how chicks always be chattering.
@ buttercup
Well so long as the message inside said “You will shortly experience severe stomach pains” you might get away with it.