Harriet Tubman $20 bill not going over well with Trump fans, other garbage humans

I know the tweets are vicious and vile, but I like to see them as impotent raging against positive change and (too slow, but still visible) social and political progress. These losers know they’re losing and they want to distract themselves and the world from the fact through offensiveness and button-pushing.

Won’t work, boys. Your fear and misery shines through. You lost. Justice won.

Basically:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdNI0_cx22s

Dear racists: enjoy your seconds in the limelight, your era is fading.

They can rest somewhat easy though, since Jackson will be on the back of the bill. So the pro-genocide, racist shitpiston will still be on the $20.

I take mild comfort at the irony of that asshole being pictorially represented on something that is decidedly not the “hard money” he favored when fighting the bank.

They ought to put a snippet of the McCulloch v. Maryland decision on the back of the bill, too, just to pound the posthumous nails in further.

I didnt know her story nor that there would be a black woman on a dollar Bill nor that there was a 20 dollars bill.
Congratulations, americans! This is truly awesome and a huge step for you and for the entire world ^^
I am really happy a black and female hero of slavery is finally being paid such homage. Here in my country some slaves from the resistance, like Zumbi, are mentioned in the history classes, but only males. You gave me an idea, I will search for females!
You said in the south of the US its taught that the war was about economy and not slavery. Here, gladly slavery is painted with a very negative light, but teachers have an habit of saying its partially fault of the africans (they sold the slaves) and that Princess Isabel “freed” them for her own will. So a lot of white people don’t feel bad about slavery at all, cause black people sold the slaves and white people eventually “freed” them. Its just so disgusting.

This post made me both glad and really sad, because… I honestly can not understand… How could we collectively do such cruel things, and how can some of us still do it. I do not understand what goes on in the brain of someone who sees an individual of the same species being tortured or used as object as something normal. With animals its already monstruous, but PEOPLE?!
And then when I remember I was sometimes casually racist/LGBTphobic/etc when I was a child because I was raised like this… I understand I am not too different from that either. Would I own slaves if I was born back then? I certainly wouldnt watch a whipping, but would I let it happen, like I let so many things happen behind my back because I am not brave or decent enough to do anything? What makes us better or different from those damn neonazis? Better education? Better parents? Could I, could we be all monsters in the right conditions? Or are we monsters already and don’t notice? We try to be good, but is that enough?
All I know is every time neo nazis or slavery are mentioned I am afraid of humans… Especially white humans. Especially myself.

And I also know is that it was not fair, that it takes guts and a wonderful brain to think and act differently, and that I am glad we continue to move on as a species. And that I am sorry. I am really sorry for what I did or could do, and for what I don’t do too.

Eh. I think this last drink gave me a pseudo-philosopher mood. Excuse the rant.

I realized much later that my earlier post on this thread was really patchy and unfocused. What I meant to say was more along the lines of “Thank you very much for reminding me, of one of the handful of historical events that I wish I could scrub from my memory, in the most obnoxiously flippant manner possible.”

And yeah, I’d love to believe that the present wailing and gnashing of teeth over the ongoing cultural shift just the dying throes of the… um… Skeksis Emperor? Something evil anyway, that was the best metaphor I could come up with to finish the sentence. But my experiences with history have left me a wee bit pessimistic on that point. Way too early to declare victory.

Also, some sentiments are just too awful to laugh off or laugh at. Even if the trolly mctrollersons who express them are too stupid to understand why. This one exceeds my personal limits.

Well, I’m quite pleased because Harriet Tubman was a childhood hero of mine and it’s about damn time we have an actual real woman on the currency, but also quite disappointed that Andrew Jackson is getting booted because Ol’ Hickory is my favourite anti-hero president. I’ve been to his conception place in Northern Ireland, both his birthplaces (NC and SC claim him) and of course, his home outside of Nashville. Fightin’ and duelin’ and runnin’ off with another man’s wife and just generally bein’ ornery and plus the Battle of New Orleans song is just grand.

@ Kat

Johnny Cash

Johnny Cash was the first American to learn of the death of Stalin.

(As someone mentioned cultural Marxism I’m going to pretend that was on topic)

Would it be in poor taste to ask if the new $20 will soon only be worth $14?

Seriously though, this awesome America. I learned a little bit about Harriet Tubman in primary school (in the UK), so I knew enough to recognize the name when the news came out. However the only detail that stuck in my mind was how she once evaded capture by the confederates on a train by sitting there calmly with a book in front of her, they knew Tubman was illiterate so went right by her. So, so cool.

@rugbyyogi – While I’ve got to admit that general orneriness is a trait dear to my heart, the Trail of Tears has soured me on Jackson.

@Chiomara –

You said in the south of the US its taught that the war was about economy and not slavery. Here, gladly slavery is painted with a very negative light, but teachers have an habit of saying its partially fault of the africans (they sold the slaves) and that Princess Isabel “freed” them for her own will. So a lot of white people don’t feel bad about slavery at all, cause black people sold the slaves and white people eventually “freed” them. Its just so disgusting.

As someone who grew up where there was a Lee/Jackson Day rather than an MLK Day, I can tell you that that’s much the same narrative. “The Africans sold each other!” And, yes, it’s also taught that the war was about economy and sovereignty rather than slavery and that slavery was proving to be financially unsustainable.

I think that there was some truth to those motivations (apologies if I’m wading into what’s already a fraught conversation – I’m working my way backwards through the comments while drinking coffee), at least as far as then-contemporary perceptions go – the North wasn’t brimming with abolitionists and there were plenty in the South who would rather have seen slavery quietly “go away”. But the fact remains that, at the time, the South’s agricultural economy was dependent upon slavery, and (contrary to what its apologists might like to claim) it was a form of slavery that relied upon dehumanization and complete subjugation; rape, “forced pairing”, and the destruction of family units; and the inculcation of racist thought, action, and policy into every aspect of life and culture.

If you’re not familiar with him, I also highly recommend looking up Frederick Douglass.

@Ray of Rays –

I take mild comfort at the irony of that asshole being pictorially represented on something that is decidedly not the “hard money” he favored when fighting the bank.

They ought to put a snippet of the McCulloch v. Maryland decision on the back of the bill, too, just to pound the posthumous nails in further.

HA!

(Reference to others not familiar: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/supremecourt/antebellum/landmark_mcculloch.html )

I’m waiting for someone to complain that this ruins the plot of the $20 bill. “My money lied to me! Women don’t have the physical strength to gaze out stoically from among serial numbers, pyramids, and weird Masonic shit! That’s just way too unbelievable!”

@mockingbird – I grew up on the opposite side of the Mason-Dixon line, and my high school history teacher used to refer sarcastically to the “War of Northern Aggression”. I think there was maybe one paragraph about Harriet Tubman in our history book, but there should have been a lot more. She served in the army as a nurse, soldier, and spy, and led an expedition of 700 men during the Civil War. So much for the “women never fight in the military” trope.