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Is Rey from Star Wars an affront to God and a terrible role model for women?

An affront to God, apparently?
Beating up dudes with a stick is not very ladylike, young missy!

So the question on the table for today is: Are asskicking women in action films an affront to “godly, awesome, beautiful, feminine women” and, well, now that you come to mention it, our heavenly Father too?

According to Christian cultural critic Nathan Alberson, the answer is “yes.”

That’s the short version of his answer, in any case. The long version is a rambling 3000-word diatribe that Alberson casts as “AN OPEN LETTER TO REY FROM STAR WARS.” Originally posted in March on Warhorn, a site I’ve never heard of before, his post is now being passed around by irritated feminists, many of whom aren’t quite sure whether his argument is real or an elaborate parody.

Having poked around Warhorn a bit, I’m pretty sure that Alberson is sincere. He genuinely thinks that characters like Rey in Star Wars are an affront not only to his own masculinity but to God, for whom Alberson seems to think he’s a spokesman.

Alberson starts out his “open letter” by addressing not only Rey but an assortment of other heroines in science fiction and fantasy films, including, among others,

Princess Leia. And Wonder Woman. And Sarah Connor and Trinity and Imperator Furiosa … and Katniss Everdeen and River Tam … And Feminist Elf-Kate from The Hobbit. … And the godmother of them all, Ellen Ripley.

The problem with these fictional women? They’re strong. And women in the real world are weak. Because God made them that way. So kickass women in action movies (and the women who play them) not only “look ridiculous,” they’re also

behaving … in ways that do not befit your sex or glorify God. … Your friends and family and fans may not laugh at you. But the angels do and history will.

I’ve seen this same argument made by antifeminists I don’t know how many times — though generally without all that stuff about God and the laughing angels. Women in the real world are, on average, weaker than men, all these guys say. So it’s unrealistic to think that any female heroine could beat up a man.

Here’s my open letter to Alberson:

Dear Mr. Alberson, 

Have you ever actually seen an action movie?

Sincerely,

David

I mean, dude, seriously, you’re mad that Trinity from the Matrix can jump high and beat up dudes?

The Matrix movies are about a dystopian future in which humans “live” in a computer-generated virtual world while their bodies in the real world are used to generate electricity. And the part of the movie that seems the most unrealistic to you is that Trinity, while she’s in the video-game-like matrix, can jump high and beat up dudes?

You do remember that by the end of the movie Neo can slow down time, repel bullets with his mind, and, you know, FLY?

In the original Star Wars, Darth Vader strangles a dude with his mind, by using a mysterious force called, you know, The Force. But the unbelievable thing to you is that Princess Leia knows how to use a blaster?

It’s true that in the real world women can’t do all the amazing things that fictional women in science fiction and action films do. But, as I pointed out the last time I wrote about this goofy argument, neither can men.

Seriously, have you seen any movie with Jason Statham in it? Sure, Statham could kick my ass, and probably yours, in the real world. But he can’t actually do all the unbelievable things his characters do on film.

I mean, the first Crank movie, as unrealistic in its violence (and its physics) as a Roadrunner cartoon, ends with Statham’s character, Chev Chelios, dispatching his arch nemesis, then calmly calling his girlfriend and leaving her a message — all while plummeting to earth from a helicopter without a parachute. SPOILER ALERT: he lives.

No, really.

And here’s a sort of greatest hits compilation from all his films:

I eagerly await Alberson’s Open Letter to Chev From Crank.

And then he’ll need to write open letters to James Bond, Jason Bourne, Rambo and John McClane. And practically every character Arnold Schwarzenegger has ever played.

But of course, Alberson isn’t just worried that kickass women in action films are unrealistic. He also think they send the wrong messages to women — and to men.

[T]he cumulative effect of watching movie after movie wherein fine ladies … suddenly crunch the bones of a dozen bad guys at a time is that some silly people get the idea there’s no real difference between men and women’s bodies … .

Really? I don’t think that’s the message being sent by, oh, Tomb Raider.

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Or any of the innumerable action films in which the heroine wears skin-tight, often fetishistic outfits that sexualize her in a way that most male action stars aren’t.

I mean, sure, Bruce Willis wore that cute orange tank top in The Fifth Element, but Milla Jovavich wore, you know, this:

Get that woman a Multipass!
Get that woman a Multipass!

Hell, in the Underworld movies, Kate Beckinsale wears a corset while fighting the werewolf menace.

This outfit doesn't look very practial
This outfit doesn’t look very practical

But apparently all these women look pretty manly to Alberson.

Movies and TV were a big part of how I learned who women were. And they lied to me. They told me that women were glorified boys who tagged along on adventures, took care of themselves, and wouldn’t let you have sex with them until sometime late in act 2 when, for no particular reason, they would.

These are terrible things to learn about women.

These movies, he thinks, should have been teaching him that women were frail flowers who need to be protected by men like him.

What I need is something to fight for, someone to fight for, someone to protect. If you rob me of that, you rob me of my dignity as a man.

Because men are supposed to be the white knights who rescue women (mostly from men who aren’t white knights).

As men, we were born with bodies and minds crafted for war. We are the warriors, the peacekeepers, the protectors—the bloodshedders, when the time is right. Every man is a father, whether of his own children, or the people that work for him, or the folks he leads at church. As such, he must be ready to uphold what is virtuous and punish what is evil.

And so Alberson has decided that his white knight quest for the moment is to take on the “wicked men” who make action movies with kickass heroines. He feels he needs to stand up for “all the girls and women out there who want to be godly, awesome, beautiful, feminine women,” who “feel beaten up” every time they see a fictional heroine beat someone up.

If only, he laments, the fathers and/or husbands of the actresses who’ve played action heroines had “loved them enough to tell them they weren’t allowed to do what they did.”

Alberson is pretty big on the whole “men telling women what to do” thing, urging his male readers to

Protect your wives and mothers and daughters and sisters. Honor them. Make them feel special. … When you see them trying to be like the ladies in those movies, tell them no. Tell them that isn’t what you want.

Indeed, Alberson seems to think that women trying to be like kickass female action stars is one of the leading causes of divorce.

Men lie to themselves and women about the sort of women they want. Women are gullible and believe the lie and become the women they think men want. Then men reject them because men never wanted those sorts of women in the first place.

And men do reject them. Look at the divorce statistics, look at the TV shows and books and articles by women desperately wondering why it’s so hard to hold on to a man. That’s a bigger problem than the purview of this letter, but you fictional female warriors are part of it.

I’m pretty sure no man has ever divorced his wife because she reminded him too much of Milla Jovavich in The Fifth Element. Or Sigorney Weaver in Aliens. Or Charlize Theron in anything. Well, anything except Monster.

Alberson’s argument really needs to have a stake driven through its heart. Buffy, can you do the honors?

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DreadFluffyRises
DreadFluffyRises
8 years ago

That’s a bigger problem than the purview of this letter, but you fictional female warriors are part of it.

Because, of course, fictional characters are well known for taking the butthurt complaints of real people to heart.

mockingbird
mockingbird
8 years ago

I’m shocked – SHOCKED – the referenced letter wasn’t written by Dalrock.

J^3 (@JoeKlemmer)
J^3 (@JoeKlemmer)
8 years ago

Every now and then, the thought crosses my mind… “I really wish I had some of what these guys are smoking.” But then I remember I’ve lost enough brain cells over 50+ years. It’s better I hang on to what I got left. I’m in no hurry to be a drooling vegetable.

magnesium
8 years ago

So wait, you’re saying that even if you’re a man and dozens of bigger men want to fight you, they won’t do it one at a time with slow, broad movements? Weird. And men can’t defy gravity? Even the most heroic of men? Hmmmm…

This Warhorn site also hosts Christian dudes bragging about physically abusing their children into obedience http://warhornmedia.com/2015/06/05/tender-love/ so, yeah, they can get right into the sea.

pitshade
pitshade
8 years ago

When you see them trying to be like the ladies in those movies, tell them no. Tell them that isn’t what you want.

…and duck.

Viscaria
Viscaria
8 years ago

And the godmother of them all, Ellen Ripley.

… Your friends and family and fans may not laugh at you. But the angels do and history will.

Alien is 37 years old. When does history start laughing?

Tulse
Tulse
8 years ago

What I need is something to fight for, someone to fight for, someone to protect. If you rob me of that, you rob me of my dignity as a man.

Hmmm…I think that falls under the category of…wait, let me see…ah yes, Your Own Goddamn Problem.

Perhaps if you didn’t tie your self-worth to fighting and protecting, you’d be much happier.

Amanda of Ching
Amanda of Ching
8 years ago

“behaving … in ways that do not befit your sex or glorify God. ”

Ennt. Christian-Godwin’s. Argument invalid. Mockery initiated.

MexicanHotChocolate
MexicanHotChocolate
8 years ago

Has this joker even read the Bible? It doesn’t feature a lot of women but some of the women who do appear are kind of badass. Like Deborah who leads the Israelite army against the Canaanites. The same story features Jael who kills a Canaanite leader with a tent stake to the head. Hardly frail flowers in need of rescue.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

Meanwhile, I actually have singlehandedly taken on a group of knife-wielding bad guys and come out on top (true story – home invasion). As much as the whole experience sucked, I still have to laugh whenever I see one of these stupid “But wimminz are weak! So unrealistic!” whinerants.

Kimstu
Kimstu
8 years ago

The most eyerolling part of that “open letter”, besides its dreary rambling repetitiveness, is the combination of authoritarian posturing with needy whining:

What I’m getting sick of is the men […] who refuse to tell stories that encourage and ennoble other men to protect and care for the weak ones, the vulnerable ones, the hurting ones—the women and the children, the widows and the orphans.

As men, we were born with bodies and minds crafted for war. We are the warriors, the peacekeepers, the protectors—the bloodshedders, when the time is right. […] So it helps for men to be encouraged and allowed to feel good about being the protectors and defenders. […]

I wish every one of the ladies who played y’all had a father or a husband who loved them enough to tell them they weren’t allowed to do what they did. […] Because I need all you fictional ladies to help me out. […] What I need is something to fight for, someone to fight for, someone to protect. If you rob me of that, you rob me of my dignity as a man.

So don’t be part of the conspiracy (led mostly by wicked men) to murder my motivation and crush out my will […]

Look, you snivelling a-hole, if you need to protect and defend something, there are plenty of weak helpless victims out there in the world. Go volunteer in a nursing home and stand up for the rights of elderly dementia patients being neglected or abused by their carers. Go infiltrate illegal dogfighting rings and rescue the abused animals. Go out in the border deserts and bring water to stranded migrants dying of thirst. Go sell all your stuff and give half of it to the poor. You know, all that sort of thing that Jesus actually TOLD you to do.

But don’t sit there on your popcorn-padded ass and whimper because healthy young women in superhero action flicks aren’t demonstrating sufficient feebleness and helplessness to stimulate your chivalry-boner. It’s not THEIR fault, or the fault of moviemakers, if you can’t muster up the “motivation” and “will” to fulfill what you see as your manly duty of helping the weak: it’s YOURS, you pathetic impotent duckweed.

Miss Andry
8 years ago

RamZPaul actually argued that girls should fantasize about being wives and mothers, not Jedis. Something about female protagonists really ruffles their feathers.

OT: Some MRA who went by the name “Angry Harry” died I guess. So says Paul “former MRA” Elam.

LindsayIrene
8 years ago

Because a man can only fight for and protect his daughters and li’l wifey! He can’t, say, fight for civil rights for all, or against global warming! He can’t try to protect endangered species or people who work in unsafe conditions! NO HE CANNOT!!!

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

The lineage of Jesus is full of rebellious women who speak truth to authority, lead men, defy their fathers, do sex work and in general kick ass. Without them, there is no Christianity.

Has he even read his Bible?

katz
8 years ago

As men, we were born with bodies and minds crafted for war.

Dude, you are not a Space Marine.

Judas Peckerwood
Judas Peckerwood
8 years ago

Movies and TV were a big part of how I learned who women were.

I think I’ve found your problem. Well, one of them anyway.

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

How can men simotaneously be natural warriors and natural peace keepers?

This problem of women needing to be weak and simple to make men feel strong and smart is not women’s problem. Rise up, asshole. I’m not lowering the bar for you. You wanna be bigger, badder and better than us? Cool. Get to it. We ain’t stopping you from getting off your soft ass and trying.

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

What I need is something to fight for, someone to fight for, someone to protect. If you rob me of that, you rob me of my dignity as a man.

Someone here is a frail flower; and it’s not women.

pitshade
pitshade
8 years ago

Unless they changed the fluff again, even space marines are made, not born.

Pendraeg
Pendraeg
8 years ago

Does anyone else get the feeling that when he says “the bloodshedders, when the time is right.” he actually means, I really hope I can find legal justification to murder people who don’t agree with me?

princess sunny burn
princess sunny burn
8 years ago

No see, here’s what he’s really afraid of, even though he might not even admit it to himself.

He’s afraid the women in his life, the ones he and men with the same abusive, controlling mindsets as him, have browbeaten and shamed into being their meek little servants, will see these movies with these sorts of characters and might start figuring out that yes, actually, women CAN be strong.

Maybe real women can’t use the Force like Rey, but they CAN stand up to and fight back against their abusers like Rey does, and they CAN find things they’re good at outside of traditional female roles like Rey does, and they CAN have their own lives and be the stars of their own stories that have nothing to do with being second to a man or cleaning or having babies, like Rey does.

THAT’S what he’s worried about.

katz
8 years ago

One of the great things about Spy is that Jason Statham is just playing a Jason Statham character, and everyone else reacts to him exactly the way you’d react to such a person in real life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wLGD8g7pTfo

Wondering
Wondering
8 years ago

And Feminist Elf-Kate from The Hobbit.

Who is that? No, seriously, who is that? Does he mean Cate Blanchett’s Galadriel, who uses magic, not physical strength? Or does he mean Evangeline Lilly’s Tauriel?

Because neither actress nor character is named Kate.

Also, the characters are elves, not humans. Elves are stronger than humans.

Has this joker even read the Bible? It doesn’t feature a lot of women but some of the women who do appear are kind of badass. Like Deborah who leads the Israelite army against the Canaanites. The same story features Jael who kills a Canaanite leader with a tent stake to the head. Hardly frail flowers in need of rescue.

Not to mention the Book of Judith, which shows up in the Catholic Bible, where Judith beheads the Assyrian general Holofernes before he can raze her city.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

So it’s only real men who have “bodies and minds crafted for war”? Tell that to Steve Rogers (y’know, as long as we’re talking about fictional characters).

Moving from fictional characters to real people and the Bible, this guy is sounding a lot like the kind of complementarian fan Samantha Field blogs about (spoiler: she thinks complementarianism is Bad).

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

Open letter to the whiny wanker who wrote the open letter to Rey,

The first time I saw Star Wars and the first time I saw Alien, I watched them with my dad.

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