A few days ago, racist skeezeball fantasy author Vox Day noted on his blog just how nice it would be to have a handy public list of all the people he hates. Sorry, a list of “confirmed SJWs.” It would be a handy resource, he said, both for SJWs looking to hire other SJWs, as well as “for those who wish to keep their organizations free of the creatures.”
You can probably figure out which of these two reasons is the real reason for the list, and which is the utterly transparent fig leaf.
Vox helpfully suggested that anyone seeking to make such a list could start with the names of those who signed a petition condemning a scheduled speech by programmer Curtis Yarvin at the upcoming LambdaConf, on the grounds that Yarvin, also known as Mencius Moldbug, is not only a programmer but is also “a founder and advocate of an ideological movement that promotes racist bigotry,” not to mention “an apologist for slavery.”
No sooner had Vox made this suggestion than a such a list appeared, in the form of a Wiki (archived here), featuring the petition-signers and a handful of other alleged SJWs. Vox claims not to have a direct hand in what the site rather misleadingly calls The Complete List of SJWs, attributing its sudden appearance to his followers — or, as he likes to call them, the “Dread Ilk.” But this is clearly the beginnings of the enemies list of Vox’s dreams.
So how does one get on such a list? The listmakers themselves don’t seem altogether sure. At first, they declare that
[t]he SJWs listed should be on the record supporting censorship of some kind (no platforming, government censorship, or disemploying people). This is not a place for grudges.
In the wiki’s FAQ, they reiterate this point, saying they will only include those who have
publicly called for someone to be fired, disinvited, shunned, no-platformed, or otherwise punished or silenced for refusing to submit to the SJW Narrative. The particular incident is linked to your name in the list.
Immediately after this pronouncement, though, they declare that the list will also contain the names of those who have declared themselves SJWs, as well as journalists who’ve published “articles that support the SJW Narrative” — whatever that means — “or an SJW attack campaign.”
So far they have not been following these rules very carefully. Some names appear on the list with no information given about their alleged “incidents.” Others are included, well, apparently just because Vox and his Ilk don’t like them.
The list also maliciously deadnames several trans women, attempting to justify this despicable policy by suggesting that these women are using “pseudonyms in place of their actual, legal names in an attempt to obfuscate their identities.” This is obvious nonsense.
So who makes the list?
The vast majority of the names on the list are simply people who signed the LamdaConf petition.
But there are some other, more recognizable, names. John Scalzi, a science fiction author who has long been Vox’s greatest nemesis, makes the list, naturally; the listmakers blame him for Vox’s expulsion from the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America, though it is perhaps more accurate to say that Vox was expelled for being a huge racist dickhead.
Cartoonist and memoirist Alison Bechdel is included on the list because, 30 years ago, she drew a comic strip in which one of the characters said she only went to movies that featured at least two female characters who talk to one another, at least once, about something other than a man.
This comic strip is the origin of what’s now called the “Bechdel Test,” but Bechdel herself never publicized the “test,” the idea for which (as she freely admits) she got from a friend.
Actor, writer and geek icon Will Wheaton makes the list for Tweeting comments defending actress and Geek and Sundry founder Felicia Day, a friend of his, after a Destructoid writer, apparently drunk, made some ignorant and misogynistic remarks about her. The writer was fired, as drunken dickheads who do stupid things when they’re drunk sometimes are. “This tweet exemplifies [Wheaton’s] SJW status,” the listmakers sniff.
Writer, and former Jeopardy champion Arthur Chu is on the list because he jokingly referred to himself as “a social justice stormtrooper” and because “he is alleged to have been responsible for the bomb threat that disrupted the #GamerGate meetup in Washington D.C. on May 1, 2015.”
That’s right” “he is alleged.” There is absolutely no evidence, or even a good reason to suspect, that he had anything whatsoever to do with the alleged bomb threat. Gamergaters essentially decided to accuse him of making the threat because they don’t like him. And that’s good enough for Vox’s listmakers!
And then there’s Carpenter Brut, a composer included on the list because he objected to his music being used without permission in a virulently anti-refugee “documentary” titled “With Open Gates: The Forced Collective Suicide of European Nations.”
This 20-minute propaganda film is essentially a collection of out-of-context video clips edited together into a melodramatic montage by an 8chan user who debuted it by posting it to the notoriously racist /pol/ board; it’s been pretty thoroughly debunked by, among others, Snopes.com (which declared it “deceptive”) and Vice (which described it as “a mishmash of comically fake and out-of-context footage, bad subtitling and Islamophobic propaganda”).
Brut objected to having his music in this piece of garbage, so now he’s on the list.
Perhaps the list should be renamed The Complete List of Really Pretty Decent People Who’ve Offended Vox Day by Being Really Pretty Decent.
Guys I’ve made great food again. Beluga lentil stew with coconut milk and curry. I’m on fire this week.
/brag
That’s still deadnaming.
I’ll probably appear pretty defensive with this, but I keep a beard because I enjoy the feeling of it and believe that it suits my face better than going clean-shaven. It’s not for the benefit of my masculinity or for showing off to other people.
Bacon is a tasty treat that complements a wide variety of other foods pretty nicely, at least to my taste buds. Though, given the groups I hang out in I tend to see it come up more as an argument between what Americans call bacon and what Europeans call bacon.
And before I was of the legal age to drink, I didn’t understand the appeal either. To be honest, I still don’t get the appeal of actually getting drunk. I’ve found more than a few alcoholic beverages that I just enjoy the flavor of, so I like to have them when I can. I can’t really handle the particularly strong stuff like whiskey or straight rum, though, because I’m not a fan of the burning sensation.
As for comic superheroes, I think Freemage covered that far better than I can, but I’ll admit I’m a fan of the Frank Miller-style Batman. Year One and The Dark Knight Returns, not All-Star Batman. I like Batman the most when it’s grim and gritty with a bit of levity occasionally thrown in. The Animated Series actually kind of ruined the original Tim Burton/Joel Schumacher films for me, because it made me think that those four movies tend to sway far too hard one way or the other for my tastes, while TAS got it pretty much perfect.
@David Gerard:
I actually slogged through that whole mess, and most of the comments section.
Kudos to users “Anna” and “Steven Schwartz” for attempting to reason with the abyss.
I found it amusing to find De Goes wading into the comment section to drop this doozy:
Freeze peach! Unless you say something mean about how my defense of my position wouldn’t pass muster as a first-year Philosophy student. Then it is very important that we report your comments in response to my post and prevent you from having a platform. However, if you have noxiously racist views, it is very important that I do what I can to assure you that you will not be marginalized, but perhaps be respected, in our community; and to give you a platform.
It’s almost as if writing about how other races are inferior on your personal blog makes it impossible for someone having your targeted characteristics (and anyone capable of empathizing with them) to have a professional relationship with you.
I liked this exchange:
“Steven Schwartz” wrote:
This point flew over jordan_zimmerman’s head, who wrote:
*facepalm*
Apparently, “being evaluated as not worthy of full citizenship” == “dislike of my ideas” / totally not dangerous to my well-being. Apparently, Objectivist-friendly economic policy being championed by nearly the entire Republican party == “99% of people dislike my ideas”.
There is also this gem from “dtobias”:
Ah, yes, the old “to a white racist, the presence of black people at a conference is analogous to what a white racist being given a speaking slot at said conference would represent to black people” argument. That’s what we call an own goal, sir.
@ Pandapool
Okay, then in the context of wanting to make sure somebody understands that the person now known as (legal name) may be more recognizable as (birth name), what would you recommend?
Yeah, I’m gonna call bullshit on deep readings of MGS2. All of the “brilliant deconstruction” elements people started lauding after the initial letdown have always come off as fans trying to string together meaning out of a long series of half baked quirks.
Quinten Flynn’s whiny voice is the result of bad direction. Raiden’s Japanese voice is a rich base, but Flynn was given the idea of “adult Johnny Quest” according to an interview. Raiden is actually super popular with the Japanese side of fans because he fits the bishonen design archetype to a tee (pretty face, pretty hair, ultra sword, tragic past.) And that makes sense given that Kojima’s reason for creating him was a fan said they didn’t want to be playing as an old man anymore, so his design and inclusion over Snake is just response to that as well a probably some of Kojima’s obvious desire to stop using Solid Snake as a character.
That “turn off the game moment” is just a reference to the exact same thing in MG 1 (the original MSX game.) It’s not even a particularly clever one because it is literally the same thing where your CO calls you to try and trick you to turning off the game. It’s cute and all as Kojima’s interface screw sometimes is, but it’s just, “Ok, parallels to older games… Uh… ‘Turn the game off! Perfect.”
“Controlling the flow of information with the internet” was confirmed by Kojima in an interview as a plot device inspired by Napster.
And of course that doesn’t count the monumental amount of cut content. The final boss being you and Snake vs. Solidus and Ocelot, rescuing the mercenaries from the sinking tanker, and Arsenal tumbling through Manhattan being what comes immediately to mind.
So if can gain a bunch of “deconstruction” meaning from that, good for you. I’m glad you can find meaning in something you like. I like MGS2 for all the issues I have with it, but it’s not this smart.
Sorry about that. I have spent so much time with fans of things who think deconstruction is the endall be all of smart writing that seeing claims of it just sets me off. It’s the reason I can’t stand most Eva fans as Eva is not a deconstruction of anything, but that’s a much longer diatribe that doesn’t go here.
Also, all beer is rotgut, the bacon obsession is weird as hell, and beards are ok if you have a face that suits one and groom them.
@Victorious Parasol
I would suggest just describing what she’s done because there’s a lot of people who done many things that people don’t know the name of. If they deadname her, correct them.
I should note that some people don’t mind being deadnamed and some people would hate you for life if you deadname them, but you should ask or research first. It’s a common “excuse” to keep deadnaming someone because they’re more “well known” under their deadname. They also deadname because they did something bad and don’t “deserve” their real name and pronouns.
Of course, I’m just one trans peep here telling you this. If any other trans/non-binary peep wants to speak up, I hope they do.
Note: Wheaton’s name is spelled “Wil” with one L.
Oh, so what you are saying, David, is that this is a list of people we want to be friends with! excellent. i need such a list 🙂
It’s great when people’s attempts to point out some “bad”, are more useful as “ways to find really interesting and nice people” for the rest of us!
@ Panadapool
Thanks. Some of my trans friends prefer to avoid any mention of their birth name unless absolutely necessary (legal reasons, etc.), and some are cool if a friend accidentally slips and calls them by their birth name instead of their new name, and all the other variations. For the most part it hasn’t been an issue for me simply because I’ve usually met someone after their transition so their birth name isn’t something I’m privy to. It’s usually trickier for me with the genderqueer/genderfluid friends who switch pronouns, but they’re usually pretty good at giving me cues as to what they’re preferring at the moment.
I just discovered a similar controversy regarding the Horror Writers Association and the Bram Stoker Awards. Author David A. Riley was asked to be a judge for the best horror anthology, and a large number of HWA members protested this because Riley is a former National Front member and has made some noxiously racist remarks, appearing to favor the British National Party. Unfortunately the HWA won’t drop Riley no matter how many members object.
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7x4iJiVWhsE/U2mU9YtvyZI/AAAAAAAAA-w/VbcHcXRGFUU/s1600/im_ready_game_of_thrones.gif
(Seriously, I have a copy of all of the Savoy Operas right on my desk right now, and the first one is The Mikado. IT’S A SIGN.)
The formatting on WordPress is a little different than the script has, so bear with me.
*ahem*
[This scene takes place right after Vox Day has sang the song ‘Behold the Lord High Vox’. By himself.]
Vox: Gentlemen, I’m much touched by this reception. I can only trust that by strict attention to duty I shall ensure a continuance of these favors which it will ever be my duty to deserve, being a cishet white Christian male, as God has intended. If I should ever be called upon to fight the war against the dreaded SJWs, I am happy to think that there will be no difficulty in finding plenty of the parasites whose loss will be a distinct gain to our white nationalist, Christian society at large. But of course, we mean no harm, and we don’t hold grudges.
[Chorus of white men all nod and mutter in agreement]
SONG – Vox Day with CHORUS OF (white, Christian, cishet) MEN
Vox: As some day it may happen that SJWs must be found, I’ve got a little list — I’ve got a little list
Of SJWs who might well be underground,
and who never would be missed, — who never would be missed!
There’s the pestilential nuisances who write on tumblr blogs —
All the feminists who have twitter accounts and harassment logs —
All the men who stick up for female feminist brats —
All the gays in shaking hands, shake hands with you like that —
And all SJWs who on spoiling discourse insist —
They’d none of them be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed!
CHORUS: He’s got ’em on the list — he’s got ’em on the list;
And they’ll none of ’em be missed — they’ll none of ’em be missed.
Vox: There’s the African-American, and others of his race,
And that Scalzi novelist — I’ve got him on the list!
And the people who date others of their gender and rub it in your face,
They never would be missed — they never would be missed!
Then the idiot who critiques, with enthusiastic tone,
all video games but these and all genders but their own;
And the lady from the YouTubes who dresses like a guy,
And who ‘doesn’t think she games, but would rather like to try’;
And that singular anomaly, the PoC Sci-Fi novelist —
I don’t think she’d be missed — I’m sure she’d not be missed!
CHORUS: He’s got her on the list — he’s got her on the list;
And I don’t think she’ll be missed — I’m sure she’ll not be missed!
Vox: And that male feminist, who just now is rather rife,
The female sympathist, I’ve got him on the list!
All homosexuals, transgendereds, and females who aren’t housewives,
They’d none of ’em be missed — they’d none of ’em be missed.
And an apologetic statesmen of a compromising kind,
Such as — What d’you call him — Thing’em-bob — and likewise —
Nevermind.
And ‘St — ‘St — ‘St —- and what’s-his-name, and also Literally Who —-
The task of filling up the blanks, I’d rather leave to you.
But it really doesn’t matter whom you put upon this list,
For they’d none of ’em be missed — they’ll none of ’em be missed!
CHORUS: You may put ’em on the list — you may put ’em on the list;
And they’ll none of ’em be missed — they’ll none of ’em be missed!
[END SONG]
(It’s rough, and it doesn’t all quite fit, but I’m happy with it.)
Bravo, PI!
I loved reading that – thank you, PI!
This reminded me of a memory fragment. When the German government released its list of banned writers, artists, et cetera, in the ’30s, a poet* realized, to his alarm, that he was NOT on the list. So he wrote an exhortatory poem, addressed to the authorities, demanding to be considered a degenerate and banned like every other true artist. That took more courage than that possessed by Theodore Beale, Curtis Yarvin, and the rest of these superfluous letters put together. More true wit, as well.
*Wish I could say more, but that’s all I have.
Brilliant parody, PI! Definitely a highlight of my day.
@ PI
🙂 Wonderful!!!
@ Pandapool Thanks for the info. 🙂
An awful lot of people don’t go by their legal names. In fact, given that middle names are part of your legal names, I’d be surprised if anybody did at all.
I really liked the Batman of the Justice League cartoon. Genuinely didn’t work very well with others, but intelligent and compassionate. I think he saved Wonder Woman from an awkward social situation once (no, literally) and that impressed me, too. He recognized she was uncomfortable and stepped in to help, showing that heroism isn’t just about punching evil in the face until it gives up.
@Paradoxical
Ye gods. This “enemies list” and its ever-changing criteria are making my head spin.
OT: Lewandowski’s getting away with it.
http://www.aol.com/article/2016/04/14/authorities-drop-battery-charges-against-trump-campaign-manager/21344416/
Ugh.
@PI: wonderful!
@chosen_name,
I’d never heard of Arthur Chu, but thanks for introducing me to his writing. His dissection of Scott Aaronson’s grotesquely embarrassing (to put it kindly) post was also excellent.
I don’t get this. I like beer. You don’t, and that’s cool. Why the need to tear it down?
Dlouwe,
It seems to be a thing on the internet these days. To be really over dramatic about your food and beverage preferences. The stuff you like in your mouth is the best and all who deny it are monsters. The stuff you don’t like is the worst and anyone who likes it are monsters.
I don’t really get it either. Why does the internet care if I like turkey bacon and deep dish pizza? Why is there a site dedicated to banning cilantro? I just don’t get it either.