Andrea “JudgyBitch” Hardie: “Men in Sweden will have to hunt down every migrant”

Rick:

Yeah, “white culture” is such an obvious thumb on the scale that it’s functionally impossible for me to take any sentence containing that phrase seriously. Congratulations, you’ve performed a rhetorical sleight-of-hand that elides together Greco-Roman antiquity, the Italian and Northern Renaissances, the French Enlightenment, and Anglo-Saxon imperialism into a single three thousand-year bonanza! Too bad culture maps to societies (often to communities within societies) and not to race or genealogy, right?

What the hell is “white culture”? Its such a overly homogeneous term it doesn’t make any sense.

“This is good, so we’re going to take credit for creating it.”

Ive heard “white culture” used to describe white supremacist culture in the U.S.
In all my years of public ed, we never learned about non-European cultural history. Even going to the library didnt help much bc few books in English talk about certain cultures, African particularly, in a positive and accurate way. Its not surprising so many people think White folks did everything.

Then how would she take me, a woman who would rather be out in the world with books and earning money for it (read: working as a librarian) than be at home with babies? Would she tell me I’m going against my nature? That I’ve been fooled into thinking I want to work when I really want to be a stay-at-home mom?
I know any answer she’d give would be untrue and a nonsensical attack on any woman who doesn’t do exactly what she thinks is best, by the way. I’m just curious about what form it would take.

Kale
April 12, 2016 at 2:40 pm

Ive heard “white culture” used to describe white supremacist culture in the U.S.
In all my years of public ed, we never learned about non-European cultural history. Even going to the library didnt help much bc few books in English talk about certain cultures, African particularly, in a positive and accurate way. Its not surprising so many people think White folks did everything.

Yeah–my elementary and high school exposure to non-European cultures was pretty much, “This is what happened when white people showed up.” It wasn’t all pro-Manifest Destiny, at least (we got a lot about the harm caused by Western imperialism), but it still reduced PoCs to supporting characters.

@WWTH
I’m going to tweet JB on election day to tell her I voted.

I absolutely LOVE that idea!!

Three Snakes:

By and large, your assessment is correct. The internet, like any other technological advance, has had both ups and downs. One of the ‘downs’ is the ability to filter your information sources so that you are surrounded (in the virtual sense) by only those voices that agree with you.

Once upon a time, extreme reactionaries like these would basically be the village crank, writing angry letters to the local paper that they would only even look at if they didn’t sell enough ads for the local grocer to fill the space. And the crank would be forced to at least acknowledge that his views were way, way out of touch with the rest of the world, because no one he actually spoke to would agree with him. But the internet shifts that. If only one person in a thousand holds a particular odious viewpoint, then at any given time, there’s 300,000 Americans who agree with him.

If one percent of those people decide to Google an appropriate search term, then there will be a solid community of 3,000 people all arriving at the same place–and all of them will be equally horrible human beings. Instead of being the local joke, they’re suddenly surrounded by their like-minded peers, all of whom also think that their views are perfectly reasonable. If we expand that to all people on the internet who speak reasonably fluent English, it goes up considerably.

This safe haven for bigoted expression produces two simultaneous effects. First, the contrast between their online life and their real-world life creates a sense of persecution in the real world. If all these people agree with them, then clearly the barista who gives his come-ons a side-eye, and the teacher who reprimanded him for telling a sexist joke, and that witch down in HR who told him to knock it off with the racist jokes in the lunchroom–well, they’re all clearly some of them Ess-Jay-Dubyas that everyone online has been telling him about.

At the same time, there’s a perfectly normal human inclination towards self-promotion. In a culture where reactionary views are valued, then the most extreme view-holders are going to be the most dominant. So they start trying to one-up one another, slowly at first, but then accelerating. Some, of course, may decide that things have gone too far, but most will tag along, at least, even if they stop competing themselves, because we are herd animals.

So the echo chamber amplifies the awfulness, at the same time as it filters out any contrary views. This is why so many of these wretches stick to purely ‘internet activism’, and that mostly takes the form of drive-by trolling. Trying to spout this stuff in the real world, without caking it in dog-whistles and euphemisms, will get them ostracized, and they know it. Rather than run into that resistance, they choose to stick with behavior that leaves them secure–group harassment, trolling and the like.

This, by the way, is where progressives have an edge. While the echo chamber effect CAN kick in in some cases, leftists ultimately are trying to change some aspect of the world–that’s the essence of progressive thought in the first place. And you can’t do that without actually interacting with the world, without learning to deal with that resistance without just leaving the verbal equivalent of a turd on someone’s doorstep. Leftists who can’t address their opponents directly usually end up burning out rather than retreating back to an internet life.

@runsinbackground.. the next subsection deals with the limits on it, it’s very narrow, and only one person in the entire country can bring a charge under that section.

There are limits on speech everywhere that has a functional government. The trick is to find a civilized balance.

So women shouldn’t be educated and should never be allowed to make important choices, even for themselves? What’s-her-face really needs to drop the “radical notion that women are adults” and “feminists want big daddy to take care of them” bullshit rhetoric because she is asking to be treated like a child who needs to be coddled and told what to do. Sorry, you can’t have both.

FYI: she isn’t going to vote because she’s Canadian and cannot vote in American elections. There’s a lot that’s wrong about her (a lot) but she isn’t wrong to say she won’t be voting.

Men in Sweden will have to hunt down each and every migrant. There is no other way. It be bloody work.

…she probably doesn’t realize that there are “migrants” from all kinds of “white” countries as well in Sweden, because of historical reasons and strong economy and peaceful society. Shit, she’s basically calling for a genocide of 426K Finns alone, not to mention everyone else she doesn’t happen to like which is even greater in numbers and I can’t even.

Just what kind of miserable and vile toerag one has to be to say something shitty like that? Or is she doing it for attention? Is she trying to be a Cool Girl for Nazis? That’s not gonna end well. Admittedly, that’s a fall I really want to see, and there isn’t enough popcorn for watching those fireworks.

@ThatBear

she constantly refers to women as “them?” Like… is she not a woman?

I’m willing to believe that she feels so alienated and dissociated from women that she might possibly believe that she’s a woman only in the academic sense.