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Memeday: Straw Feminists Confused About Everything Edition

Uh, MRA meme-makers, I don't think that's how equality works.
Uh, MRA meme-makers, I don’t think that’s how equality works.

Men’s Rights Activists learned a long time ago that the easiest way to win an argument with someone is by playing the old straw man game, ignoring what they actually believe and instead pretending that they believe something much less defensible — and much easier to rebut.

Trouble is, when you’re actually debating one of these people directly, they may point out to you that they don’t actually believe what you claim they believe. And this makes it oh so much harder to win the argument.

Luckily, MRAs have found a workaround for this little difficulty. Instead of debating real feminists who can argue back, they debate imaginary ones who say only what the MRAs allow them to say.

One quick visit to a stock photo repository and hey, presto! You’ve got yourself the following memes depicting Straw Feminists Confused About Everything.

dum4bodies

Er, what? Feminists have the power to ban hot babes from going out in public? Do these hot babes have to make themselves less hot before they can get a walking around permit from the Department of Jealous Feminists Who Won’t Let You Go Out if You’re Too Hot?

dum2shark

I think I may have posted this one before, but I still don’t quite understand it. Hey MRA dudes, you’re supposed to confuse the imaginary women in your memes, not the rest of us!

dum3rocks

This dumb little cartoon, drawn in 2003 by a dude hoping to sell a few t-shirts, has provided MRAs with thirteen years’ worth of cheap outrage so far. Congrats, MRA meme-maker, for squeezing a little bit more outrage from its desiccated corpse.

dumfin

I ain’t saying she’s a golddigger but, yes, you are saying that. Again. That song is more than a decade old. Move on, dudes.

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Kit Fowley
Kit Fowley
8 years ago

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“Now paste in the picture of the confused lady and tell them to date sharks instead! Can you work the notallsharks hashtag in there?”

Nequam
Nequam
8 years ago

My main problem with minivans is that they have lots of windows so you can’t paint a kewl mural on them. 😀

Seriously, though, a 2WD Honda Element, while funny-looking in its own right, is a good hauling-things vehicle, especially since you can remove the seats if you need to cram something *really* large in them.

ThatBear
ThatBear
8 years ago

@Sephira

I still think crew cabs are stupid. If you’re moving people, use a car. If you’re moving stuff, use a pickup. Don’t stretch your truck cab into a tiny, uncomfortable car and call it a thing.

contrapangloss
8 years ago

ThatBear, but what if you’re moving both people and stuff?

Crew cabs may suck for solely transporting people, but it’s nice for transporting 4 people and a bunch of equipment on the rare occasions that you need to do both simultaneously.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants

Yeah, no, I’m not living in the ocean. It’s full of sea lions.

The reason shark attacks are less common than rape is that people don’t swim in the ocean all that often, compared to spending most of their waking hours moving around on dry land populated by a certain percentage of creeps, PUAs, pedophiles, and assorted nasties. (And decent men too, thankfully.). If women moved into the ocean, I guarantee shark attacks would suddenly become a hell of a lot more common. And then sharks would be all “well, just move back onto dry land if you want less risk.” And so on, with women endlessly ping-ponging back and forth in search of a place on the planet where there aren’t so goddamn many predators.

The meme maker seems to think asking all women to migrate to a different biome is a much more practical solution than asking rapey men to maybe be just a teensy bit less rapey towards women. It’s STEM* logic!

*Brainstem

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ buttercup

I’m not living in the ocean. It’s full of sea lions.

Surely that’s only an issue if you’re a sea zebra?

Mish
Mish
8 years ago

This is a bit OT, but the memes reminded me. A few days ago a women’s group at one of the universities here held a cupcake sale aimed at highlighting privilege (white cis guy = pay full price for a cupcake; white cis woman = one discount, and so on).

The backlash was pretty horrendous, especially on their FB page, and a columnist who wrote about it then got her own backlash, in turn. There were apparently rape threats, even death threats, and memes like this one:

FFS.

katz
8 years ago

RESPECTED wildlife experts have said supposed evidence of a great white shark lurking in the sea off Cornwall is just a “scare story” – adding that it is a different man-eating shark altogether.

LMFAO.

And I would rather swim with the sharks. Who’s a nice shark? You are!

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago

@Buttercup Q. Skullpants

creeps, PUAs, pedophiles, and assorted nasties. (And decent men too, thankfully.)

“… and some, I assume, are good people”

🙂

Imaginary Petal
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago

Trump’s running mate will be an actual shark.

Emmy Rae
Emmy Rae
8 years ago

@ Buttercup Q: My band is called Emmy Rae and the Assorted Nasties. We’re very unpopular.

ThatBear
ThatBear
8 years ago

@contrapangloss

NONSENSE. No one has ever needed to move both people and stuff!

(But if you do, the Bear-approved answer is to use a van.)

@IP

I’m “hoping” for a Trump/ Shkreli ticket. Clearly those two were made for each other.

katz
8 years ago

NONSENSE. No one has ever needed to move both people and stuff!

(But if you do, the Bear-approved answer is to use a van.)

Works less well if, for instance, you need the people to help you shovel compost.

Fred_the_Dog
Fred_the_Dog
8 years ago

I have an old Toyota Rav4 — those things apparently drive forever. With all the seats out, it is an awesome hauling vehicle…in fact, I can’t remember the last time I had the seats in it.

Bina
Bina
8 years ago

@kale:

@Bina part of the point of feminism is that men were and still are already hitting women with impunity.

Yup. I’m so old, I still remember when police up here in Canada didn’t intervene in domestic abuse incidents, because “a man has the right to discipline his wayward wife”.

Oh wait, that shit’s still going on, even though it’s illegal now.

@Fruitloopsie (hi!!!):

Like Bina said I don’t trust guys who complain about “we want equality! What about us!?” Because it’s always boils down to “I get to hit women/girls right!? Women/girls should die more!” Etc. They don’t care about men and boys they just want women and girls to suffer and the thing is we are already suffering and we are already dying by the hands of misognist (and other bigots) pricks like them.

The funny thing about that “boys are stupid throw rocks at them” tshirt was created by a misognist (not a misandrist) who has been known to steal art.

Figures, that shirt…I admit I laughed at it, but never bought one. Because I knew what I’d be accused of, even if I only wore it ironically. (I was a hipster before hipsters were hipsters.)

And yeah. It’s all about punishing women for just never being RIGHT. “Equality” has nothing to do with it. It’s just another club to bash women with.

booburry
8 years ago

I had one of these “throw rocks at them” shirts when I was a teenager. I never knew there was a big to-do about them back then. I guess they aren’t in the best taste but I was trying to google other old shirts from David & Goliath and found this…

http://canadiancrc.com/Hatred.aspx

Wowzers.

Dustinzeit
Dustinzeit
8 years ago

@Mish

> Talks about males being privileged
> Points this out by discriminating against males, while expecting to be able to do so with impunity

k.

katz
8 years ago

@Mish

> Talks about males being privileged
> Points this out by discriminating against males, while expecting to be able to do so with impunity

k.

http://hrschoolhouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/tumblr_inline_mm3bqpMsEV1qz4rgp-300×300.jpg

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

You know white cishet men are privileged when a good number of them get outraged about these types of bake sales. And it happens every single time a university does this stunt.

If paying full price for a cupcake is the biggest oppression you face, I’m not exactly weeping for you.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his pronouns)
8 years ago

@Dustinzeit

>Ignores the fact that it was a college experiment and that the women involved got death and rape threats over cupcakes for a college assignment
>Thinks this is somehow a checkmate

k.

Dustinzeit
Dustinzeit
8 years ago

@Katz

I don’t think so. If we charged women higher prices for cupcakes than we did for men, feminist hate-mobs would have formed like tornados and tore the place down; feminists send death threats too. You can’t use the Code of Hammurabi to justify discriminating against men, and before you even mention it, there is peer-reviewed information on numerous govt. websites which conclude that the wage-gap is a myth.

I’m sorry, you actually thought you had a point to begin with?

Dustinzeit
Dustinzeit
8 years ago

@Pandapool

At least half of them were probably from feminists who were trying to make men look bad, and I wouldn’t discredit the possibility that these students knew that this was going to happen ahead of time.

I think it’s just as laughable that you think that some manufactured piece of drama over some cupcake prices is some kind of checkmate against anyone who cares to dispute whether or not society is sexist against women. Top kek. Try again.

katz
8 years ago

Dustinzeit also believes he’s the victim of world hunger because he went to one of those Oxfam hunger banquets.

Mrs. B
Mrs. B
8 years ago

Dustinzeit, it was the Gender Pay Gap Bake Sale.

You know, the pay gap you guys insist doesn’t exist.

So, in your world, all of those cupcakes are equal – $1.

Pay up.

OoglyBoggles
OoglyBoggles
8 years ago

Dustinzeit it’s good to know that death and rape threats are a okay when it’s a college assignment.

http://i.imgur.com/tBw9PdG.png