Men’s Rights Activists learned a long time ago that the easiest way to win an argument with someone is by playing the old straw man game, ignoring what they actually believe and instead pretending that they believe something much less defensible — and much easier to rebut.
Trouble is, when you’re actually debating one of these people directly, they may point out to you that they don’t actually believe what you claim they believe. And this makes it oh so much harder to win the argument.
Luckily, MRAs have found a workaround for this little difficulty. Instead of debating real feminists who can argue back, they debate imaginary ones who say only what the MRAs allow them to say.
One quick visit to a stock photo repository and hey, presto! You’ve got yourself the following memes depicting Straw Feminists Confused About Everything.
Er, what? Feminists have the power to ban hot babes from going out in public? Do these hot babes have to make themselves less hot before they can get a walking around permit from the Department of Jealous Feminists Who Won’t Let You Go Out if You’re Too Hot?
I think I may have posted this one before, but I still don’t quite understand it. Hey MRA dudes, you’re supposed to confuse the imaginary women in your memes, not the rest of us!
This dumb little cartoon, drawn in 2003 by a dude hoping to sell a few t-shirts, has provided MRAs with thirteen years’ worth of cheap outrage so far. Congrats, MRA meme-maker, for squeezing a little bit more outrage from its desiccated corpse.
I ain’t saying she’s a golddigger but, yes, you are saying that. Again. That song is more than a decade old. Move on, dudes.
I will keep this in mind, Alan! I just call it alcohol, for the most part. I am not a clever pony.
Do try it though, it’s delicious :9 Have heard it done with pale ale and even champagne. It was apparently created to comemmorate the funeral of King George? something like that.
@ scildfreja
I tend to only drink Guinness after I’ve given blood. He, my mum, like most women at the time was advised to drink Guinness by her doctor when she was pregnant.
A friend once got me a Guinness and Port, but that just seemed to be two otherwise nice drinks ruined.
And you’re the cleverest (and nicest) pony I know!
I know a black and blue is Guiness and Blue Moon.
I think we can make a pretty good argument that video games are a form of storytelling.
On a more personal note, Dusti, I’ve met people who read the right books and form the right opinions and hate the right movies so they can seem witty at parties. They are never as clever as they think they are. The whole act is super transparent and will get you written off as a bore. (Since you didn’t mention which concerto or instrument, I’m guessing this is more academic than practical for you. If I can get a noise out of an instrument I can pick out ode to joy on it. Not an accomplishment as it’s a stupidly simple tune, just sharing a musical idiosyncrasy of mine.)
I have to admit: I’ve never in my life been accused of being insufficiently white. I’m tempted to think that I must be doing something right, but the reality is that my privilege doesn’t actually go away due to any behavior of mine, so it would be disingenuous for me to claim solidarity of any kind with non-white people.
Kind of a lame insult, but one of my privileges is that I don’t really have to care about that kind of insult.
So Dustin has a cuckold fetish. Hey site regulars, can we kinkshame this tedious troll?
@Policy of Madness
Indicator of spinsterhood (pic of cat): -1
White guilt: -3
Supports ironically-named ACLU: -1
Talks about “privilege” : -2
Uppity: -2
1/10 would not bang.
Dustinzeit says:
You mean by being useful, practical, and adept at cleaning up smears of shit left by people showing their asses? Certainly! It would be quite the change for you.
We call them “Snakebites” here in the southwest at least. Another personal favorite of mine is a Guinness and Kiltlifter
@ genjones
In Yorkshire snakebite was cider and lager. It had such a bad reputation that I was once asked to leave a pub just for ordering one (lots of pubs refused to sell it).
Snakebite with a dash of black current was a “purple nasty”. That was the Goth drink of choice back in the 80s!
Here’s an article explaining why it’s never a good idea to mention ‘black & tan’ around Irish people.
http://www.irishexaminer.com/ireland/nike-forced-to-run-like-hell-away-over-black-and-tan-trainer-branding-187151.html
Did Dustin really think “would not bang” was going to bother anyone? He really has run out of anything to say.
So sad. He couldn’t even keep it up for a week.
@WWTH – I know, right? And cat-owner = spinster 😀
I’m quite sure that PoM is utterly devastated…
Does anybody in the world other than Roosh-ites and Ricky from Trailer Park Boys still say “bang”?
@Alan, Thank you! Eesh, that’s a good reason to not use the term.
(And i don’t care whether a bar thinks that cider and guinness is tacky, i like it and can make it myself anyways! :|)
@WWTH, Mish, IP (et al)
I think Dustin has just decided that he wants to get banned, but doesn’t want to be so offensive that a ban is obviously warranted. That way he can go back to his den-of-ill-repute that he came from and cry about his free speeches being violated. So he’s just being a bit obnoxious.
The channers and those like them are just so goddamn tedious. It’s all empty, smug superiority, for the stupidest adolescent reasons. Can we please get over the idea that feeling feelings about things is healthy, humanity? I don’t even mean getting upset or emotional – I mean just plain old acknowledging-that-we-have-emotions.
Ugh, humans.
Scildfreja,
I think you may be right. I propose we don’t request a ban, but we just start ignoring him until he starts saying something worth engaging.
WWTH,
Are…. are you suggesting that we make him dance for us? :3
I’m sure PoM is very happy to hear that you have no sexual interest in them.
@Alan Robertshaw
There was also one time that Ben & Jerry’s released Black and Tan ice cream for St. Patrick’s, with a similar response.
@ dallillama
Wow! What did they do for Martin Luther King Day? James Earl Ray flavour?
I don’t recall offering to bang you.
eta:
Not to mention that spinster = somehow a bad thing. It’s one of those “insults” that usually doesn’t hit the mark, and when it does it’s not remotely hurtful. Like “cuck” in a way, and like cuck it’s gendered.
I’m not sure what you mean. Feeling feelings is healthy. Demanding others agree with your feelings is what these sealing do.
ETA:
No, that’s never okay in my book.
http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s–S25I45-2–/c_fit,f_auto,fl_progressive,q_80,w_320/18vltc10hflnzgif.gif
It’s just silly, because feminists tend not to believe that a woman’s worth is tied into whether she’s married with kids. Spinster is just not an effective insult on a blog like this. It’s probably effective if you’re trashing feminists to other non feminists, but there’s no point to using it on us here. The trolls keep on trying it though.
@FrickleFrackle, @kupo – Yeah, this comments section is anti kink shaming. I mean, we’ll call out people who’re being giant hypocrites re: kinks, but the rule seems* to be that we’re down with whatever as long as everyone involved able to fully give enthusiastic, legal consent.
* I say “seems” not in judgement (“This SEEMS to be the way it is…”), but rather to mean that, though I haven’t seen anything explicit or written, that’s been my observation and general feeling.