Memeday: Straw Feminists Confused About Everything Edition

Ah,Ok. I’ve only seen a very few episodes of that.

@FrickleFrackle

You’ll poke your eye out.

@Dustin

What makes you think you can deduce so many things about my character just from reading my posts here?

Because you’re extremely transparent, kid.

@kupo

Me? Transparent? Please. You can probably see what you had for lunch whenever you look in the mirror.

You’re just angry because you’re not as white as me.

Fabe:
You should watch it aaaalll! It’s amaaazing. And adorable.

I should the two epidodes I remeber seeing, the one where Steven and his Dad where trying to find his moms old super cannon so they could take out a giant eye ball death star thing and the one where Steven was trying to make the prefect pancakes were alright.

Dustin should just give up, he’s down to “I know you are what am I?” retorts

Fabe:

I should the two epidodes I remeber seeing, the one where Steven and his Dad where trying to find his moms old super cannon so they could take out a giant eye ball death star thing and the one where Steven was trying to make the prefect pancakes were alright.

Those are super super early! I’m glad I didn’t post anything really spoilery! Lot of people have trouble getting into the earlier super slice of life stuff (but I really like those, too). it gets more serious and deeper as it progresses.

Dustin should just give up, he’s down to “I know you are what am I?” retorts

I stopped paying attention to him when he started daydreaming about a post-apocalyptic world where we all get our comeuppance.

have been employed for several years. I was working part-time in a small grocery store because of school, but because I can’t find a job in my field, I’m now working full-time in said store with a bunch of people who barely speak English (at least those Spanish classes are paying off).

Okay, it sounds like you’re probably a low wage employee. Since you said you’re in the south, it’s probably fair to guess that you’re in a right to work state and your grocery store job is not unionized. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not denigrating your work at all. I’ve never worked in a grocery store, but I’ve worked plenty of retail. I’ve also got a job that I don’t need the college degree that I do have. So, I know how it goes. I just mention that you’re a low wage employee because you were complaining earlier about subsidizing other’s healthcare. Here’s the thing. Given your current position, you wouldn’t be subsidizing others all that much. You would actually stand to benefit from socialized medicine. You would have better coverage than you have now, and other, wealthier people would be paying more into it than you would.

So, you’re against something that would help you. Why?

I think this John Steinbeck quote really applies to you.

“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

It’s kind of sad. You should stand in solidarity with those Spanish speaking co-workers you seem to resent so much. Stand together with them for unions and better wages and universal single payer healthcare. But you just won’t do it. You’re upset that despite being in the demographic group our culture says is superior, you’re forced to work on the same level as immigrants with brown skin who speak another language; a group you’ve always been taught is your lesser. But they’re not. They’re not the enemy. The wealthy people that are using race, sex, religion, and orientation to divide us, they’re the enemy. And they’re laughing at you for falling for their divide and conquer tactics. Don’t fall for it! Be better than that!

If you live up north by any chance, do yourself a favor and quit putting so much of your money into the feds; you’re just subsidizing the bottom-feeders down here when you do it. The south may not rise again, but it might get off its ass for a change.

Yes. I do live up north. Very north. I’m in Minneapolis. It’s not the bluest state, but it’s pretty blue. I sometimes hear about how taxes are too high and that’s so terrible. But I disagree. Despite working in a job that only requires basic computer literacy, I’m making okay wages. That’s because the Twin Cities has the lowest unemployment of any metro area in the country. So much for taxes being a job killer! Our schools are in general pretty good. There are lots of parks and lakes. No matter where you live, you’re likely in walking distance of one. The transit system could use a few improvements, but it’s better than a lot of places. We consistently score in the top on quality of life indices.

You talk about the south being “bottom feeders” and it’s true that you have more issues with poverty there. It’s not because people are lazy there I don’t think. It’s because you have right wing state governments. Those cause a lot of poverty and hardship and those of us in the bluer states who have more sensible and liberal governments must help out. I’ll bet if your state was run more like mine, or better yet, more like Sweden, you’d have a lot less poverty, drug problems, teen pregnancy, and other bad things.

Reread your post and you’ll see you’re actually making an argument against your own views. You’ve own goaled, I’m afraid.

@PoM

You’re just angry because you’re not as white as me.

Oof. There you go again. You’re lucky that I am pleasantly buzzed right now. Usually I would tear you a new one, but I’m feeling charitable, so I’ll let my nice and calm post stand. I’m trying on the Scildfreja/EJ method of being gentle but patronizing. How’d I do? They’re probably better at this than I am. Don’t worry, I’ll probably go back to mockery tomorrow. Or maybe even in the next hour. Who can say?

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@Dustin,

You’re not particularly transparent, you’re not shallow. You do say a lot of things that I’ve heard an awful lot of, which is well documented in this website. But that doesn’t make you easy to read.

You are none of these things, but you are human. And, while I know that the conservatives and libertarians and MRAs and whatnot love to talk about how “SJWs” are all “special snowflakes”, in reality I’ve found that it’s the opposite – that conservatives and the right tend to think of themselves as specially unique – as the warlords, uniquely empowered to rule; as philosopher kings with powers of rationality beyond everyone else. On the progressive side, we focus on empathy and compassion, this helps us identify our commonalities, despite the differences we have. The right does not have this.

You’re human, and humans have certain inescapable basics of how they work. This is based on biology.

Humans have a “fight-or-flight” reaction which translates into social aggression and tribalism. This is based on activation of limbic system structures by way of adrenaline and other related neurotransmitters.

Humans have limited impulse control, as dictated by the reflex time and development of the anterior cingulate gyrus and related structures.

And, in the specific case you’re talking about, Dustin; humans have poorly differentiated memory recall – recall which relies on emotional markers and cues.

Hating someone without knowing them has to involve a certain background level of hate. This can express as depression, as anxiety, as self-loathing – this is all self-hate. It can be hard to identify – it took me years to find mine – but it’s there.

You can’t feel impulsive hate towards strangers without also feeling some level of impulsive hate for yourself. Brains don’t work that way. It’s a simple matter of the chemical diffusion of neurotransmitters.

(Note: I am not a researcher of neurobiology, I am a researcher of artificial intelligence algorithms. I study neurobio for information and understanding.)

Do yourself a favor when you have the time – doesn’t have to involve conversation on this forum at all. Just for you.

Pick an hour mid-morning or mid-afternoon where you don’t have any responsibilities or chores set for you. Take a shower, avoid caffeine, put on some music that you find relaxing, and walk through your mental catalogue of Things You Believe In.

For each thing, tell yourself – I am wrong about this thing. Because statistically, you almost certainly are. Tell yourself that you’re wrong, and think about how you might make yourself more right.

You can generally measure the rightness of someones’ opinions by how often they thoughtfully adjust them.

Good luck!

Gosh, @WWTH, i barely recognized you! What are you drinking? 😮 It sounds fantastically mellow.

I’ve worked my share of crappy jobs, too. Retail for too long. Wading through muck in the forest, chopping saplings and planting trees. Juggling a phone (ugh, what a terrible experience that ended up being). I’ve heard that Minneapolis is really nice, too, and I’m glad to hear that you’ve gotten yourself a decent job, if not fantastic.

Dustin, you really should look up Sweden’s/Norway’s/Denmark’s GDP and standard of living. The Nordic model is the envy of the world in so many ways – not perfect, but really good!

@Kupo

I’m a rubber, concealing a clue
When a man fucks you, I do too.