We’re still running a meme surplus in the We Hunted the Mammoth offices, so I’m going to drop a few more on you today. Enjoy the FLAWLESS STEM LOGIC and KEEN GRASP OF REALITY displayed in the following memes, gathered from A Voice for Men’s Facebook page. I’ve lightly censored a couple of them.
WE INVENTED THE MAMMOTH TO FEED YOU
Ha Ha! Girls are stupid and can’t do math amirite fellas high five!
Damn you gals for keeping men out of this low-paying profession that men could easily enter if they wanted to because it’s not actually a “hiring scheme” that keeps them out!
THIS ISN’T ACTUALLY TRUE BUT MAYBE IF WE PUT IT IN ALL-CAPS NO ONE WILL NOTICE!
– Why won’t you feminists talk about men’s issues!! 🙁
– Sometimes we do! Here’s an example: [link]
– LOL who cares? Stop silencing meeee
Jamie
8 years ago
Look into it. Any study that has directly asked the question, has wildly disagreed with police reports. The evidence is right there for you to examine, with your open mind. It’s like literally just there for you, when you choose to look, with your inquisitive open perspective.
On, snap, hang on. You’ll never look into it. You’ll never watch any of karen videos. You’ll never examine the statistics or consider the proposition – because your mind is as closed as a bank safe, and you’ll never consider anything outside of your fundamentalist position.
I could sit here, and share with all of you journel articles, until my fingers bleed, and it wouldn’t shift any of you, from the seventh adventist like borg like intolerance of outside ideas and thinking.
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
Yes, Jamie, you’re right. A feminist blog exists, therefore men aren’t allowed to have a voice. Your logic is flawless.
Fabe
8 years ago
Men other then actors suffer from mental illness and it should be treated as just as important as any other issue facing men.
Look it’s a straw many example, that sits in glaring contrast to the conversation we have had right here, in this thread – and in direct constrast to the clear point I made about feminists CREATING much of the oppression that men face, via their villanisation.
Are you hard of hearing? Or just super selective in which areas your fundamentalism focuses and justifies?
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
“I could cite a source but you wouldn’t read it anyway, so I’m not gonna.”
Dude, did you know that literally 100% of MRAs use this exact excuse?
Jamie
8 years ago
That wasn’t my argument at all.
You’ll cherry pick anything to shout other people down won’t you?
isidore13
8 years ago
I could sit here, and share with all of you journel articles, until my fingers bleed, and it wouldn’t shift any of you,
And this is apparently your justification for not even trying.
Why is it unreasonable for people to ask for you to provide links to any one of the numerous studies you claim support your assertions?
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
Jamie. Nobody can actually hear you. This is blog. Calm down and take a nap.
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
Who’s shouting?
Jamie
8 years ago
I have literally argued with seventh day advertists. I’ve argued with people exactly as narrow minded, and fundamentalist as feminists. I know exactly how pointless it is, and how much time and typing I have already wasted in a pretty sexist environment that I’d rather not be in.
There is literally no way to move that rock. And no way you can even be allowed the time to share contrary opinions without every fundamentalist shitting on them, and trying to silence your voice.
I am honestly not stupid enough, to sit here and debate science, that is readily accessible, on google scholar, on google, if any of you had ANY interesting in exploring ideas outside your fundamentalism, I’m sure you’d expend the terrible effort of clicking and opening a new tab, and typing something (oh the horror!)
Like literally click click, type type – your there. If that’s too much energy for you to spend, and you have that level of intellectual honesty (you won’t even look when it takes next to zero effort), how dumb would I be, to sit here and talk facts?
I mean, without understanding the study, I bet youd criticize it. Anything I say, there’d be an excuse for it. Because there is zero zero zero zero zero allowance for considering new ideas. Your zealots.
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
The moment you refuse to provide a source, you’ve basically admitted defeat. The only possible reason why you would refuse to back up your claims is because you have just been making shit up. You can prance around and declare victory all you want, but we all know you’ve fucked up.
isidore13
8 years ago
You are making the assertion, here on a blog of an opposing ideology with people who you supposedly attempting to convince to come to your side. In any discussion, that puts the burden of proof of your claims on you, James, not on us. Other people have kindly provided evidence for their rebuttal of your claims. Why are you better than they are that you shouldn’t be expected to do so as well? For me, all I want is one, 1, of the allegedly numerous studies backing up any one of your claims. This is not an unreasonable request.
> Jamie drowns the comments section with post after post after post accusing us of silencing men and not allowing them to have a voice when it comes to issues that effect men.
> Ignores the fact that there are several men in this comments section all the time and that this blog is run by a man.
> Still blames feminism for all of men’s problems and says that he won’t provide sources.
> Accuses us of “cherry-picking” while he’s drowning us in bullshit.
Hey, Jamie, spamming is against the comments policy, and David has banned people for being tedious. Either post links to back up your fucking copy-pasta PRATTs, or kindly shut the fuck up.
And before you cry “censorship!”, no one here works for the government (I used to, but that was a summer job for the Census bureau back in 2010), so no, we’re not censoring you by not giving you a platform to shout at us and then get mad when we reply in a way that isn’t “OMG you’re so right, we feminists are the scum of the earth because we’re totally doing all this shit to men that you can’t prove!”
Jamie
8 years ago
Imaginary, it’s not an excuse. You can’t reason your way out of a position you never reasoned your way into. It’s common sense – don’t argue with a brick wall.
Your best bet is to present some information, and hopefully latter they will come across information or a life experience that will open them to it. That maybe, just maybe, they will have the courage to leave their faith aside for a moment, enough to look and see what is actually true or not.
And also hope, that some more reasonable people will see it, and see that there is a counter for you know, the hate speech of feminism.
Just on the off chance it makes a difference somehow to the situation men are in.
I didn’t really come here, to individually convince you guys. I mean, honestly, and I hate to be brash, but if I came here with that intention, i’d be a very niave and frankly stupid individual.
That’s not the way feminists work. They don’t change their position. They don’t listen to other’s ideas. They don’t examine evidence, and just go with whats rational. They are like religious people. it takes massive life events, and emotional trauma, or years of being exposed to new ideas against their will, for the fundamentalism to be dropped.
and MRA people know this is not how feminists work. So we very rarely try to convince any feminist of anything. It’s pointless. Instead we make our case, so that others might here it, and just perhaps one day, the truth might find its home too in the feminist. And arguments and statistics won’t acheive that. Cannot. You are simply not amiable to new information.
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago
Aris is like Bizarro Obi-Wan Kenobi. We struck him down, and he became more annoying than we could possibly imagine. Still roughly as powerful as a wet fart in a hurricane, though.
Jamie
8 years ago
Oh look, a feminist trying to silence me. That’s novel, they never do that with outside viewpoints.
Fabe
8 years ago
I can’t wait for David to get back so he can drop the ban hammer on Jamie.
Imaginary Petal
8 years ago
I wasn’t always a feminist, so at least one of us has proven they can change their mind when presented with facts.
Too bad you won’t present any. :/
Jamie
8 years ago
Male or female makes no difference if you are pro-feminist or not. Why would that matter? There was plenty of gender traitors back under patriarchy, who were women. Same difference now. You can’t get into oppression without both genders involved.
isidore13
8 years ago
How can you hope to convince anyone of anything without providing any evidence at all? Truly, James, you are a shining example of manospherian logic at work. Kudos.
Jamie
8 years ago
I’m sure that’s plenty enough for you to ridicule, shame, attack, tear apart, deny, never look into or investigate, never consider and collectively gang up on, for quite some time.
So I’m out. Hope yall come out of your fundamentalism soon. If you don’t by the time mens rights happens, you’ll be stuck with the label bigot, or sexist. And idk, mental prisons are pretty terrible once you realize you’ve been in one. That’s a lot of guilt. So I genuinely wish you the best.
brooked
8 years ago
On, snap, hang on. You’ll never look into it. You’ll never watch any of karen videos. You’ll never examine the statistics or consider the proposition – because your mind is as closed as a bank safe, and you’ll never consider anything outside of your fundamentalist position.
This may shock you but watching Girlwriteswhat YouTube videos isn’t generally considered scholarly research.
. Any study that has directly asked the question, has wildly disagreed with police reports.
You do realize that your ridiculously broad, unsubstantiated claims make it seem like you’ve done no real research on the topic, right? Or maybe you don’t.
feminists CREATING much of the oppression that men face, via their villanisation.
Obligatory shout out to the Feminist Overladies who rule us all.
isidore13
8 years ago
@brooked and of course Katie, the One Feminist to Rule Them All.
– Why won’t you feminists talk about men’s issues!! 🙁
– Sometimes we do! Here’s an example: [link]
– LOL who cares? Stop silencing meeee
Look into it. Any study that has directly asked the question, has wildly disagreed with police reports. The evidence is right there for you to examine, with your open mind. It’s like literally just there for you, when you choose to look, with your inquisitive open perspective.
On, snap, hang on. You’ll never look into it. You’ll never watch any of karen videos. You’ll never examine the statistics or consider the proposition – because your mind is as closed as a bank safe, and you’ll never consider anything outside of your fundamentalist position.
I could sit here, and share with all of you journel articles, until my fingers bleed, and it wouldn’t shift any of you, from the seventh adventist like borg like intolerance of outside ideas and thinking.
Yes, Jamie, you’re right. A feminist blog exists, therefore men aren’t allowed to have a voice. Your logic is flawless.
Men other then actors suffer from mental illness and it should be treated as just as important as any other issue facing men.
http://www.cmha.ca/public_policy/men-and-mental-illness/#.Vvsa63o2His
Look it’s a straw many example, that sits in glaring contrast to the conversation we have had right here, in this thread – and in direct constrast to the clear point I made about feminists CREATING much of the oppression that men face, via their villanisation.
Are you hard of hearing? Or just super selective in which areas your fundamentalism focuses and justifies?
“I could cite a source but you wouldn’t read it anyway, so I’m not gonna.”
Dude, did you know that literally 100% of MRAs use this exact excuse?
That wasn’t my argument at all.
You’ll cherry pick anything to shout other people down won’t you?
And this is apparently your justification for not even trying.
Why is it unreasonable for people to ask for you to provide links to any one of the numerous studies you claim support your assertions?
Jamie. Nobody can actually hear you. This is blog. Calm down and take a nap.
Who’s shouting?
I have literally argued with seventh day advertists. I’ve argued with people exactly as narrow minded, and fundamentalist as feminists. I know exactly how pointless it is, and how much time and typing I have already wasted in a pretty sexist environment that I’d rather not be in.
There is literally no way to move that rock. And no way you can even be allowed the time to share contrary opinions without every fundamentalist shitting on them, and trying to silence your voice.
I am honestly not stupid enough, to sit here and debate science, that is readily accessible, on google scholar, on google, if any of you had ANY interesting in exploring ideas outside your fundamentalism, I’m sure you’d expend the terrible effort of clicking and opening a new tab, and typing something (oh the horror!)
Like literally click click, type type – your there. If that’s too much energy for you to spend, and you have that level of intellectual honesty (you won’t even look when it takes next to zero effort), how dumb would I be, to sit here and talk facts?
I mean, without understanding the study, I bet youd criticize it. Anything I say, there’d be an excuse for it. Because there is zero zero zero zero zero allowance for considering new ideas. Your zealots.
The moment you refuse to provide a source, you’ve basically admitted defeat. The only possible reason why you would refuse to back up your claims is because you have just been making shit up. You can prance around and declare victory all you want, but we all know you’ve fucked up.
You are making the assertion, here on a blog of an opposing ideology with people who you supposedly attempting to convince to come to your side. In any discussion, that puts the burden of proof of your claims on you, James, not on us. Other people have kindly provided evidence for their rebuttal of your claims. Why are you better than they are that you shouldn’t be expected to do so as well? For me, all I want is one, 1, of the allegedly numerous studies backing up any one of your claims. This is not an unreasonable request.
> Jamie drowns the comments section with post after post after post accusing us of silencing men and not allowing them to have a voice when it comes to issues that effect men.
> Ignores the fact that there are several men in this comments section all the time and that this blog is run by a man.
> Still blames feminism for all of men’s problems and says that he won’t provide sources.
> Accuses us of “cherry-picking” while he’s drowning us in bullshit.
Hey, Jamie, spamming is against the comments policy, and David has banned people for being tedious. Either post links to back up your fucking copy-pasta PRATTs, or kindly shut the fuck up.
And before you cry “censorship!”, no one here works for the government (I used to, but that was a summer job for the Census bureau back in 2010), so no, we’re not censoring you by not giving you a platform to shout at us and then get mad when we reply in a way that isn’t “OMG you’re so right, we feminists are the scum of the earth because we’re totally doing all this shit to men that you can’t prove!”
Imaginary, it’s not an excuse. You can’t reason your way out of a position you never reasoned your way into. It’s common sense – don’t argue with a brick wall.
Your best bet is to present some information, and hopefully latter they will come across information or a life experience that will open them to it. That maybe, just maybe, they will have the courage to leave their faith aside for a moment, enough to look and see what is actually true or not.
And also hope, that some more reasonable people will see it, and see that there is a counter for you know, the hate speech of feminism.
Just on the off chance it makes a difference somehow to the situation men are in.
I didn’t really come here, to individually convince you guys. I mean, honestly, and I hate to be brash, but if I came here with that intention, i’d be a very niave and frankly stupid individual.
That’s not the way feminists work. They don’t change their position. They don’t listen to other’s ideas. They don’t examine evidence, and just go with whats rational. They are like religious people. it takes massive life events, and emotional trauma, or years of being exposed to new ideas against their will, for the fundamentalism to be dropped.
and MRA people know this is not how feminists work. So we very rarely try to convince any feminist of anything. It’s pointless. Instead we make our case, so that others might here it, and just perhaps one day, the truth might find its home too in the feminist. And arguments and statistics won’t acheive that. Cannot. You are simply not amiable to new information.
Aris is like Bizarro Obi-Wan Kenobi. We struck him down, and he became more annoying than we could possibly imagine. Still roughly as powerful as a wet fart in a hurricane, though.
Oh look, a feminist trying to silence me. That’s novel, they never do that with outside viewpoints.
I can’t wait for David to get back so he can drop the ban hammer on Jamie.
I wasn’t always a feminist, so at least one of us has proven they can change their mind when presented with facts.
Too bad you won’t present any. :/
Male or female makes no difference if you are pro-feminist or not. Why would that matter? There was plenty of gender traitors back under patriarchy, who were women. Same difference now. You can’t get into oppression without both genders involved.
How can you hope to convince anyone of anything without providing any evidence at all? Truly, James, you are a shining example of manospherian logic at work. Kudos.
I’m sure that’s plenty enough for you to ridicule, shame, attack, tear apart, deny, never look into or investigate, never consider and collectively gang up on, for quite some time.
So I’m out. Hope yall come out of your fundamentalism soon. If you don’t by the time mens rights happens, you’ll be stuck with the label bigot, or sexist. And idk, mental prisons are pretty terrible once you realize you’ve been in one. That’s a lot of guilt. So I genuinely wish you the best.
This may shock you but watching Girlwriteswhat YouTube videos isn’t generally considered scholarly research.
You do realize that your ridiculously broad, unsubstantiated claims make it seem like you’ve done no real research on the topic, right? Or maybe you don’t.
Obligatory shout out to the Feminist Overladies who rule us all.
@brooked and of course Katie, the One Feminist to Rule Them All.
Tell it to the conspiratorial ‘patriarchy’. lol.