https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTcYLPGoC4I
Woah! I wasn’t expecting this, but here it is. I have not yet watched it. But I imagine I will have some further thoughts when I do, because, holy crap, it’s Davis Aurini’s version of the Sarkeesian Effect!
Sorry, I mean, his version of a, no, wait, it’s not a version of anything, it’s his “separate independent work that should not be considered a ‘version’ of The Sarkeesian Effect or derivative of it,” as a title card in the “film” explains,
Even though it’s, you know, about Anita Sarkeesian and her “effect,” and even though it uses “footage originally filmed for use in The Sarkeesian Effect.”
That’s Aurini’s story and he’s sticking with it.
Anyway, I’m opening up a bag of popcorn and watching it. Join me, will you?
EDIT: Ok, I’m thirty seconds in and already tacky as hell graphics and badly recorded voiceover! This is gong to be good. By which I mean terrible.
EDIT 2: Ok, it’s not quite 4 minutes in and I’m getting bored. Damn. That’s what happened with that other totally unrelated film too.
Some behind the scenes footage of a writing session between Owen and Aurini in Owen’s bathtub:
“Curse you, Sarkeesian! Nya!”
There’s a link to Aurini’s youtube channel, which feels like a mistake. Davis has decided to drop his cowboy persona and go back to growing his Anton LaVey ‘stache with a recent video entitled “The Mentality of the Cuckold.”
“Here’s a riddle for you to ponder,” Davis offers. “Is a man a cuckold because his wife cheats on him, or does his wife cheat on him because he is a cuckold?”
Then he declares that white genocide is real and starts pontificating on the “black bulls” being recruited for the constant stream of cuckoldry being forced on us by the media.
And the forever unsmoked cigarrette is back, along with the forever undrunk whisky glass.
1:06 : Aurini refers to “the state of nature” but fails to mention whose conception of said state he is using. There’s more than one state of nature, doofus!
He probably thinks he’s talking about Thomas Hobbes’ state of nature. He probably isn’t aware that more than one political philosopher used that concept and even that very phrase. The context in which he places this reference tells me that, like most fools who like to talk about the state of nature, Aurini has never actually read The Leviathan or even a decent Cliff Notes version, and he has no conception of what “the state of nature” was meant to represent.
You get an F for effort, and a D- for execution, Aurini. You threw that out trying to sound educated and erudite, but because you didn’t actually know what the phrase means you just came off as a nitwit.
@Judas Peckerwood
Well, fair enough, they’re probably all lacking something. Especially self-awareness.
@Tragedy of the Commas
…you rang?
@Dave
Yeah, you’re right, this is boring as all hell. Anyone wanna watch Milo try to explain why Sanders supporters are all about feelings and Trump supporters are about “evidence-based” ideas?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pONZu_qXAno
Watching him sputter about how Bernie isn’t a “nice guy” is worth it, IMHO.
I’m at the Not Your Shield part
Stay strong, VioletBeauregarde, you have a long road to travel yet.
@Kit Fowley
Pretty spot on, but I tend to think of Owens and Aurini as more of the Team Rocket of men’s rights: More incompetent than evil and totally awful at what they do.
Notice that Jason Miller has a fur coat?
And thanks, Kirby 🙂 we can do this!
If you read old entries of his blog you can see he talks of a girlfriend occasionally. Then no more after a long break. Not to say she caused the red pill nonsense of his but it is interesting. Specially the blog entry of him about drinking whiskey with her then they go to her parents house in the night an he gets angry at the news for some reason so much that he smashes furniture of theirs and shouts at her mum. The beginning paragraph tells how this is an often occurance (or was at the time). He even tells how the nights would end with him punching furniture and her cowering in the corner. Whether he made it up to sound more edgy (he seem to think himself as some gonzo journalist back then) or whether it’s true one thing is certain – it’s very disturbing.
He claim she liked him for it but she went out of the picture and his blog entries very soon after…
Huh. Apparently Jorden Owen is moving away from gender politics, having deleted all of his videos on the subject in response to an altercation between him and someone he accuses of defaming him. He talks about it in a video called “Clarification” on his channel.
That’s… huh.
EDIT: Ok, he didn’t delete everything… but still. Huh.
PoM, are you 76 seconds in or 76 minutes? I watched for 10 min and don’t remember state of nature coming up. But I really ewasn’t paying close attention. Without having heard it, I’d have expected him to invoke Locke if anyone.
@Orion
It’s 1 hour 6 minutes in.
He doesn’t really invoke anyone, he just says that the straw enemies in his head need civilization because they are obviously incapable of surviving in a state of nature. He’s trying to make some kind of point about irony, and failing.
The context makes it closer to a Hobbesian state of nature than a Lockean one. He probably hasn’t read Locke either, though, so who the fuck knows.
Locke’s Second Treatise actually has a kind of fascinating moment when Locke realizes that there actually is no reason whatsoever for men to have superior political authority compared with women. Hobbes sort of has it, too, but much less articulated. Locke got soooooo close and then backed the fuck off … he was honest enough to put his realization in his treatise, but couldn’t shake his patriarchal feelings. If Aurini had ever read that, I think he probably would have burned his copy with fire.
I think comparing Owen and Aurini to Team Rocket is unfair to Team Rocket. One of the recurring themes about Team Rocket is that they’re the absolute pits at being bad guys, but when they’re in a position to be protagonists they’re generaly way more compelling than the main cast. Owen and Aurini are the pits at being impressive or menacing or imposing despite their best efforts, but they do succeed at being morally repugnant. Jesse and James are ill-meaning doofuses, but when they actually have a chance to be good people they always take it.
There’s really not much to criticize besides Trump as a person. What are his policy ideas even? He’s been bloviating all over the place for months on end and the only two I can think of off the top of his head is that he’ll make Apple bring all their jobs here and he’ll make Mexico build a wall along the southern border. How he’ll accomplish either of these things? I don’t know. I guess we just have to trust his mad deal making skillz.
I made it through about 6 minutes before I started skipping around.
He mentioned that Anita “only” made a “few” videos that are “only” about 20 minutes long. Dude, if you’re going to make a relatively dry video essay that includes little other than yourself talking and some footage of stuff, you need to keep it short, or people will get too bored and click away.
Take, for example, the entire Gamergate/MRA/youtube-o-sphere. Booooooorrrring as fuck. That’s why no one responds to you because no one has hundreds of hours worth of time!
I can’t bear to watch, so I’ll just make popcorn and cookies for the brave souls who have managed to get through even a minute of this.
Don’t forget the registering of Muslims and banning their travel to the US.
Here’s an attempt at a parody. The interesting thing is that it’s been deliberately badly-edited as part of the parody, and the editing is still better the Aurini/Jordan projects
@ Kirbywarp
Naw, my brain says, that can’t be real. That’s not a thing, it cries out in vain. It’d be a too obvious exploitation of outraged reactionaries. It’d be the type of thing Jim Sterling would and does mock, e.g “An Xtreme Outrage”. Who could possibly…OMFG. There are over 280 reviews and 91% are 4 stars or better. That makes sense, given the niche audience for it. But wow. Amazon lists it as their #15 seller in books on censorship A fool and his money etc etc.
You’re absolutely right about them being guilty of the exact things they accuse their critics of being.
@ Miss Andry
Haha.
But can you do The Drew?
Well, given that you can’t become a cuckold without getting cheated on first, fucking duh, Davis — which do YOU think it is?
(Obviously the latter, because the cart is forever before the horse with these bozos.)
I’m gonna call bullshit on him right here. No woman likes a man for his violent tendencies, any more than her parents would have liked him for wrecking their house. Probably the real story goes more like this: they urged her to leave him because he’s a violent and destructive drunk, and she did. And he’s been madder than hell ever since. Probably drunker than fuck, too, if that constant whisky glass (and all his idiotic rambling) is any indication.
Poor girl, she really did dodge a bullet when she dumped this one.
@bina
I thought it was probably something like that. I just get sad really when I think of it. Poor girl for sure. :/
Also though, I think he exaggerate as well. If all his non -whisky drinking but holding a glass of whiskey is to go by. I know myself conversation or no conversion, or shitty skull video rant or no shitty skull video rant, I can’t sit and talk with a drink in my hand and NOT DRINK IT AT ALL FOR A WHOLE HOUR. But maybe I have problems. Who knows. 😉
But I know for sure he likes to fake tough guy persona which is also scarey cos it show he think scaring women and breaking stuff is cool.
Everyone who’s made an attempt to watch and recount this video is officially my hero.
*throws confetti*
*deep sigh*
Guys, I’m going in. Will update later. Ugh…this is going to be just wonderful. Hopefully I will not die from boredom and/or rolling my eyes so deep in my head I can’t ever get them back out again.
It’s still mindboggling to me how little they try to make sense. Not even on a macro level, but from sentence to sentence. Take the bit where they decide to sift through Anita’s videos to demonstrate that she engages in 4 types of dishonesty: direct lies, lies by omission, manipulated evidence, and. . . I forget the 4th one. Whatever. So they go to chronicle Anita’s “direct lies” and it turns out that all her “direct lies” are literally true, but allegedly misleading because of other relevant facts she neglected to mention. I can’t help but wonder if there might be a better phrase to describe this kind of alleged dishonesty. Then we move on to the “lies by omission” segment segment, in which they accuse her — I swear they use this phrase verbatim — of “manipulating evidence” to create a misleading impression. As you can imagine, the segment on “manipulated evidence” that runs immediately after that is somewhat incoherent.
@SJA,
I can roll my eyes into my head so only the whites show. Freaks people the hell out. Also, how are you? Have you had any luck getting useful support from a therapist, nutritionist, or any of the other resources you were looking into? Obviously feel free not to discuss anything you don’t want to, or to take it to an open thread, or to contact me off-site if you need more direct help accessing care. Anyway, I wish you the best.