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I say “tomato,” you say “feminism is cancer,” let’s call the whole thing off!

The dictionary definition of "tomato" didn't warn me about this!
The dictionary definition of “tomato” didn’t warn me about this!

Men’s Rights Activists and other antifeminists always hate it when feminists point them to dictionary definitions of feminism as “the advocacy of equal rights for men and women” (or similar) rather than “a seekrit cabal of evil spermjacking sluts that want to genocide all men,” which is what all MRAs apparently think feminism really is.

In the meme below, one anti-feminist tries to prove that dictionary definitions aren’t always right so there, and if the dictionary can get “tomato” wrong then it must have feminism wrong too!

tomatomeme

Aw, dude. You tried. But apparently you didn’t bother to check the dictionary definition of “tomato” first. Here’s what you get if you type the words “tomato definition” into Google.

to·ma·to təˈmādō/ noun 1. a glossy red, or occasionally yellow, pulpy edible fruit that is typically eaten as a vegetable or in salad. 2. the South American plant of the nightshade family that produces this fruit. It is widely grown as a cash crop, and many varieties have been developed.D’oh!

 

 

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Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

Nobody Special | March 27, 2016 at 7:24 pm
jy3, Social Justice Beguiler, I’m pretty certain that it is impossible to make meatballs out of vegetables; made from vegetarian animals maybe, but not from vegetables.
Please tell me how you achieve this paradoxical feat of culinary magic.

That’s easy! You make them out of animal crackers!

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
8 years ago

Well, soybeans can be used to make meatballs since TVP has a similar texture to meat.

Of course, one could argue that TVP “meatballs” are not actually meatballs since….they’re not made of meat.

masque d'étoiles
masque d'étoiles
8 years ago

@Mockingbird: That sandwich = midsummer heaven. Yessss.

I also like bruschetta, made as follows:
Lightly toast thick slices of bakery Italian bread.
Rub toast slices on one side with a raw garlic clove and arrange on a platter. (Leave room around the edges of the platter; things are about to get messy.)
Quarter the same tomatoes Mockingbird describes, and squeeze over the garlic-rubbed toast, one quarter per toast slice, until the tomato splooshes and schlurps of your hand and onto the toast in delightfully juicy chunks. (Told you it was messy.)
Wash your hands, then drizzle a nice spicy extra virgin olive oil over each piece of tomato-topped toast.
Sprinkle with shredded fresh basil leaves and a shake or two of sea salt.
Devour.

If you must gild the lily, you can add a slice of fresh mozzarella on top of the tomato, under the olive oil.

katz
8 years ago

That’s easy! You make them out of animal crackers!

theseventhguest
8 years ago

I have been reading here for a few years, and have many reasons to be glad Mammoth exists. Not the least of which is that I can finally wear a bra again sometimes because of fitting advice I read here.

David’s work and the community here are so (good, comforting, funny, educational), I figure it is about time to be reauthorized to post, and here we are with a conversation I think I can help with.

When I started making salsa at home, I went on a search for a pepper that would not have a bitter after-taste. The ones I settled on are advertised here in Nebraska as “Thai peppers”.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bird's_eye_chili

The key to telling them apart from others is the distinctive cap. [link broken to prevent embedding]
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Three to five green ones in a salsa made out of 5 medium sized tomatoes is pleasantly warm (if you grind them into nearly a paste).

Anyway, thanks for being so great.

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
8 years ago

Favorite tomato sauce based dish is Burgers Florentine: 2 patties of ground beef, with breadcrumbs, spices and egg, stuffed with cottage cheese, cooked spinach and parsley, browned, then braised in a red-wine and tomato sauce with green peppers and onions. Serve with egg noodles or boiled new potatoes and a side salad.

Unfortunately for me, ham was on sale. I made ham for a pot luck 2 weeks ago, then had split pea soup from the bone. Now i have another ham to myself, with baked mac an cheese casserole.

Ham today, ham tomorrow, HAM FOREVER!

GenJones
GenJones
8 years ago

Hey, just wanted to share an update I thought y’all might find interesting. I don’t know how many of you caught it, but I posted a comment a while back about male birth control options and how I often have to explain to men who believe they only have condoms and vasectomy at their disposal that all the “female” over-the-counter options that can be used immediately prior to sex are also available to men because they’re intended for vaginal intercourse, not just vaginas.

I just checked into Quora today, had politely answered a question under the Men’s Rights topic about male contraception options, and even supplied several inexpensive brands by name and common national chain stores where they could be obtained……..

And discovered that my answer had been collapsed due to downvotes.

(Sorry for double posting in the old thread and this one, but this seemed so revealing I had to share. I’m beginning to think the only answer that would have been acceptable answer would have been one that supports the narrative that men don’t have any options, because feminism is cancer.)

James
James
8 years ago

Probably a little ironic defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians with a male oppressing agenda, when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

IDK, maybe you missed that. People often do, but I found it kind of cute.

Also, kind of cute that you see the former as bigotry, and not the later. That making a generalisation about one group is cool, and another is not, even though, they are basically mirror image of each other, and at various times both contain individuals that seem like twits and morons.

It’s like a person with a huge blind spot, just living in irony with no self-awareness of it.

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

@GenJones: That really is interesting.

It does feed into our theory that MRAs don’t actually want to help men, but instead would rather whine and complain that they don’t have options when they do, facts be damned.

Which pretty much just evokes this image:

calmdown
calmdown
8 years ago

@GenJones

I’m sorry for asking you to repeat yourself but would you mind giving a couple examples of male bc options here (or a link to a source or where you posted before)? It sounds really interesting but when I went to the Planned Parenthood website it I couldn’t find much other than the usual.

katz
8 years ago

Probably a little ironic defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians with a male oppressing agenda, when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

So this is a pretty obscure piece of trivia so I’m not surprised you don’t know it, but actually, individual people are different, so a fact can be true of one person but not of another.

For instance, it’s not logically fallacious or ironic for a murder suspect to say “I’m not the murderer, he is.” You’re just saying that particular fact is true of someone else but not of you.

calmdown
calmdown
8 years ago

they are basically mirror image(s) of each other

MRAs love repeating this ad nauseam but repetition/volume does not automatically make a statement true 🙂
At least I hope not.

GenJones
GenJones
8 years ago

@calmdown – The only birth control men don’t have access to is a prescription to alter the woman’s body and hormone levels. That is the only exclusively female birth control method. However, just because a form of contraception is not specific to male anatomy doesn’t mean they can’t buy them and use them. They’re meant for vaginal intercourse, not just vaginas. Just as women can purchase condoms as a method of contraception, men can also purchase any form of spermicide or vaginal contraceptive that can be applied immediately prior to sex, including contraceptive film, gel, cervical caps, sponges etc.

Conceptrol, Encare, VCF, Softcup cervical caps and sponges are all available inexpensively at any CVS or Walgreens and many other drugstores in the family planning aisle near the condoms and are just as available to men as they are to women.

calmdown
calmdown
8 years ago

men can also purchase any form of spermicide or vaginal contraceptive that can be applied immediately prior to sex, including contraceptive film, gel, cervical caps, sponges etc.

Ok, I see what you mean, thanks for answering. 🙂

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@TheDreadVampy
Pathia?! This American has a new word now! I had to Google it though, because this sweet and sour curry is mostly found in curry shops in the UK.

It looks really, really delicious! I’m going to keep it in mind, assuming that my boyfriend will go for it. He’s got an American palate and prefers mostly sweet and salty. Sour is kind of challenging for him. But he does love spicy!

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Luzbelitx

Hi everyone. Had eye surgery few days ago. Fo nit computer much.

Eye surgery sounds challenging. I hope that it went smoothly and that you

Get Well Soon!/strong>

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

Probably a little ironic defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians with a male oppressing agenda, when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

Ooh, a Both Sides Do It troll! It’s been a few days since we’ve spotted one of those.

He reminds me of an abusive ex. When we fought he would (sometimes) apologize. And then he would demand that I apologize too, because “every fight is the fault of both sides.”

Nah.

And that’s what I told him.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

@Luzbelitx
“/Strong>” at the end of my comment was the Blockquote Mammoth’s way of telling you

Get Well Soon–You’re Strong!

That lumbering–yet sneaky–Mammoth is right!

Paradoxical Intention - Resident Cheeseburger Slut

James | March 28, 2016 at 12:10 am
Probably a little ironic defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians with a male oppressing agenda, when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

Except we’re not claiming every single individual who cares about mens’ rights is a misogynist, just the ones who flock to any one of the toxic banners that falls under the larger label of The Manosphere?

Of course, you could show us a MRA that isn’t a misogynist or a racist. But that’d be asking you to do something other than sit there and preen in your assumed higher intelligence, I suppose.

If you actually give a shit about mens’ rights issues and want to do something about them, great, we’ll even help you to the best of our ability! Many of us have discussed mens’ rights on this very forum and what to do about them, and many of our regular posters are men and have offered their own ideas about what we could do about them.

However, if you say you care about mens’ rights but then turn around and say that you think the solution to all your problems is for women to get back in the kitchen and stop being feminists and you yell loudly about how black people are thugs and Muslim people are terrorists, we’re going to side-eye you quite a bit, and most likely say you’re being sexist/racist/otherwise bigoted.

I don’t get this argument that we’re some how “bigots” for pointing out bigoted things that so called “Mens’ Rights Activists” have said/done.

This is like saying “Pointing out acts of racism is racist!” or “Pointing out acts of homophobia is homophobic!”

It makes zero sense. Calling out bigotry does not a bigot make. Being a bigot makes you a bigot. It’s that simple.

IDK, maybe you missed that. People often do, but I found it kind of cute.

What is it with these trolls and their sneering condescension? It’s reminiscent of a cheesy Saturday Morning Cartoon villain.

Except we all just sit back and laugh at you instead of gasp over-dramatically and declare you our arch-nemesis. Especially when you walk in here with all that condescension and just end up making an ass out of yourself via logic fail.

Also, kind of cute that you see the former as bigotry, and not the later. That making a generalisation about one group is cool, and another is not, even though, they are basically mirror image of each other, and at various times both contain individuals that seem like twits and morons.

It’s like a person with a huge blind spot, just living in irony with no self-awareness of it.

Anyone else smell a Jamie sock from that other thread? Because I smell the tell-tale stench of shit from a moral high horse. “Both sides are stupid, I’m the only smart person here! HAHAHAHAH KNEEL BEFORE YOUR INTELLECTUAL SUPERIOR!”

http://i0.wp.com/www.alaskacommons.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/05/personally-i-find-atheists-just-as-annoying-as-fundamentalist-christians-well-the-important-thing-is-youve-found-a-way-to-feel-superior-to-both-xkcd.png

(Just replace “atheists” and “fundamentalist Christians” with “Feminists” and “MRAs”, and you have James. It’s sad really. It’s almost like he’s living in his own little bubble with no self-awareness.)

Because feminism and mens’ rights activism isn’t “basically mirror image of each other” if James (or Jamie) would actually do some fucking research. But, of course James is too smart for that! Nah, he knows exactly what both sides are like! He’s gone and generalized them both, and that’s obviously the only correct answer here!

No more feminism! No more manospherians! Just James! Because James is obviously here to solve all our problems!

Or at the very least, he’s here to strut about and make loud noises like a peacock.

Kat
Kat
8 years ago

Both Sides Do It Troll = BSDIT?

Plural: BSDITZ?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

… when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

If you want to go for a schtick as old and worn out as “I’m not an MRA, but…” false neutrality, at least put some damn effort into it.

Policy of Madness
Policy of Madness
8 years ago

Probably a little ironic defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians with a male oppressing agenda, when you are basically claiming the exact same thing of mens rights groups (that they are misogynists, racists etc, one and all, with a female rights destorying agenda -if they have an interest in mens issues).

Huh! It’s almost like a movement dedicated toward elevating a marginalized group toward equality is conceptually different from a movement dedicated toward stopping that from happening!

defending feminist as not men-hating lesbians

I’m not quite sure I understand what you’re getting at here. Why is being a lesbian bad?

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

Balustrade!

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
8 years ago

For that matter, why assume lesbians hate men? Not wanting to have sex with men doesn’t equal hating men.

(Though certainly there are plenty of men who give lesbians reasons to hate them.)

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

Where did anyone here claim MRAs are gay?
Both sides are not bigoted. Just yours, troll.