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Aliens, Bitch Snacks and Baby-Aborting Whores: The Totally Not Hateful Graphic Art of the MGTOW Subreddit

How exactly are you guys "going your own way" again?
How exactly are you guys “going your own way” again?

I‘ve lost track of the number of times that some aspiring Man Going His Own Way has shown up in the comments here, indignantly objecting to some post I’ve made about the MGTOW lifestyle, such as it is. All we’re doing is trying to live our lives in peace, the MGTOWs declare. Why are you always picking on us?

Well, I think from now on I’ll just send them a link to this post. Today we’re celebrating Memeday one day early with three of the most ridiculously misogynistic memes I’ve yet seen in my five years of running this blog — all of which were posted to the MGTOW subreddit in the last week.

This, MGTOW dudes, is why we pick on you. Because instead of actually going your own way and living the free, independent lives you say you want to live, you stew in your own hatred and fritter away your life talking endlessly about the alleged evils of women online.

Seriously, dudes. When Thoreau went and lived by himself in a shack by a pond for a year, he emerged from the experience with a book people are still talking about today. Left to you own devices, you guys produce crap like this:

womanroar

So not only is this woman “a baby aborting, lawsuit filing, backstabbing psychotic whore,” but she is also:

  • a feminist
  • a vampire
  • a Satanist
  • either the Beast of Revelations or just someone with glasses decorated with the number of the beast

Also, she really needs to see an ophthalmologist STAT, because there is definitely something a bit off about her eyes.

About the only good thing I can say here is that this meme got a mixed-but-mostly-negative reception in r/MGTOW, with responses ranging from “topkek” to “[t]his is why MGTOW has a bad name even amongst MRM,” though the critics were more annoyed by the anti-abortion stuff than by the raging misogyny. And in at least one case because the abortion talk meant that he could post a little manifesto on why men should be able to “financially abort” any of their children they didn’t feel like providing for

This next terrible meme has an otherworldly theme:

humanrace

I hate to break it to you, fellas, but that alien there is a Small Grey. They’re not interested in chatting about science with you. They’re the ones who go around abducting people and using them in medical experiments. And mutilating cattle, but I think that’s more of a hobby of theirs.

This one also got a mixed reception in r/MGTOW, with reactions ranging from “sadly, women in Brazil are not that different from American women” to “this is probably one of the dumbest things I’ve seen. This post honestly looks like it was made by a mentally handicapped middle schooler.”

milkbone

I don’t even know where to start with this one. I just hope whoever made this paid for the rights to all those stock-image angry ladies!

Also, dude, if the purpose of these Bitch Snacks is to provide women with the energy they need to make themselves miserable, why would they contain Prozac? The whole point of antidepressants like Prozac is make people less miserable, not more. That’s why they’re called antidepressants.

Seriously, dudes, antidepressants. They could do you a lot of good (and I say that as someone who’s been taking the things for more than twenty years). They’ll certainly do you more good than spending the rest of your life in the MGTOW subreddit laughing at hateful, shitty memes and trying to convince yourself you’re happy.

So how did this meme, possibly the most misogynistic of the three, fare in r/MGTOW?

The fellas loved it. “Bitch bones. Love it,” wrote one. “Words cannot express how awesome this is,” declared another.

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Makroth
Makroth
8 years ago

Don’t know how to embed videos. Do i have to post a link that ends in a video file name like .avi or something like that?

Saphira
Saphira
8 years ago

I just recently learned about the herbivore men in Japan. They’re men who actually are going their own way. They don’t date seriously, if they date at all, nor are not interested in following the expectations of society — which is get a great job, find a nice girl to settle down with, have some kids, and spend eighty hours a week at the office trying to support the family and the large debt they’ve racked up consuming goods.

They don’t hate women. They just want want to live life on different terms than what previous generations did. It’s not born out of a hatred of women, but is more of a revolution against doing what is expected of you.

MGTOWs keep trying to claim them. Really, they should be emulating the herbivore men. The single guys in Japan are out there enjoying their lives, not spending day in and day out on the computer spewing misogynist B.S.

snork maiden
8 years ago

OT,

but Trump has been doxxed by Anonymous:

[link removed by DF; it wasn’t a direct link, but there was a direct link in the article]

Not sure what this is going to achieve to be honest. It didn’t stop Anita Sarkeesian, why would it stop a juggernaut like Drumpf?

Swales
Swales
8 years ago

To be fair, I would definitely eat a food called “Bitch Snacks.” I’m imagining something like pecan pieces coated in brown sugar, cinnamon, honey, and a little salt, then baked. Mmm. Crunchy, salty-sweet bitch snacks.

weirwoodtreehugger
8 years ago

I don’t get why MGTOW try to claim herbivore men. Their usual line is that East Asian women are good and Western women are bad. Men are going their own way because Western women are so fat and entitled. As opposed to Asian women who are thin, submissive, and nice to men. So, why are Japanese men going their own way then?

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weirwoodtreehugger | March 17, 2016 at 10:51 am
Oh, and I guarantee you that pro-choice, feminist, satanic vampires are way more fun to be around than MGTOWs.

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EJ (The Other One) | March 17, 2016 at 11:10 am
A feminist vampire satanist with cool glasses? I think I’ll hang out with her instead. She sounds pretty cool.

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Swales | March 17, 2016 at 2:34 pm
To be fair, I would definitely eat a food called “Bitch Snacks.” I’m imagining something like pecan pieces coated in brown sugar, cinnamon, honey, and a little salt, then baked. Mmm. Crunchy, salty-sweet bitch snacks.

Are…are we saying I need to come up with a packaging design for the Bitch Snacks now, like I did with the bon bons?

Tragedy of the Commas
Tragedy of the Commas
8 years ago

@ snork maiden

That really doesn’t help anyone. Doxxing is wrong, no matter who it’s done to. This will only encourage his already violent supporters. Hooray.

@ dlouwe

So MRAs claim a thing as an achievement for them when, in reality, they had nothing to do with it? How…surprising.

@ brooked

I simply say, “Show me where I wrote or said I hate women.”

Years ago, I was in an argument with a guy who denied he had said a thing earlier on that contradicted what he said in the present. Why? Because when I said he contradicted himself, he quoted the statement immediately before the most recent thing he said. He declared that since those statements didn’t contradict each other, he hadn’t contradicted himself. That’s how this argument works: I didn’t say it just now or immediately before just now, therefore I didn’t say it at all. It’s Trump logic.

This same guy also denied that black people experience America differently than white people. I tried mentioning a Spike Lee lecture in which he asked the dozens, if not hundreds, of black students in the audience if they had been called “white” for going to college and how every single one of them raised their hand. And he denied that middle class white people have a presumed expectation of going to college, because his parents didn’t expect him to go. It was a weird conversation. But I’m getting the same impression of this guy as the dude at that party.

I love the “sue them” line of reasoning, too. Especially when he’s labeling all feminists as uneducated (but I thought colleges were overflowing with feminists, especially those damned Humanities?), lazy, and illiterate.

Either feminists are monsters manipulating society into ruining men’s lives with a word or they’re powerless illiterates too lazy to accomplish anything. Pick one.

“If you’re critical of anything involving women AT ALL, you are labeled a ‘woman hater’.

Nice projection, since it’s a far more common a tactic among MGTOWs and MRAs. They’re usually the loudest in using women and black people as shields from criticism or claiming that “by our own logic” we’re never allowed to criticize a woman’s opinions ever.

Also, if your criticism “of anything involving” a woman constantly gets you labeled as a woman hater, then maybe you need to reconsider what you’re saying and thinking.

Ohlmann
Ohlmann
8 years ago

@Saphira : isn’t that just being called an asexual ?

Orion
Orion
8 years ago

Oh man, Paradoxy, speaking of The Voice, this season is going to be amazing. Is anyone else watching it?

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Petal
Just cut down a tree and kill a few spiders. Problem solved! Also, I just binge watched all of 30 degrees in February (all Netflix had, anyway), so your weather report made me sad because I want to watch more. 🙁

Orion
Orion
8 years ago

Ohlman,

No, that’s quite different. Asexual people sometimes do date, get married, and have children, which herbivores by definition don’t. Also, “herbivores” don’t pursue high-status, high-paying, high-stress jobs, while asexuals are at least as likely to do so as anyone else.

Plus, I believe most of the herbivores are straight and are in theory interested in sex. They’ve just made the calculation MGTOW’s claim to make — that in the place and time where they live, it’s not worth the effort.

dlouwe
dlouwe
8 years ago

@Ohlmann

It’s probably closer to being aromantic. Being asexual doesn’t preclude the desire to date or have romantic relationships.

Carrie
Carrie
8 years ago

There’s already a fair little energy-tea drink called “bitch”. I’m not big on tea, but I loved the name, come on.

So as I’m checking out, the cashier says that she needed to go grab a few “of those” drinks for herself because “like every woman today has been buying them so far! I wanna buy one of those too!”

“Bitch” has sooo been de-fanged by the merry usage of the word by those of us who don’t think it should be a slur. Bitch magazine, resting bitch face, that’s my bitch! (said when a friend does something extraordinary), etc., and there MGTOWs are trying to act like it’s a bad, bad word.

Bina
8 years ago

This poster, Overdice, reveals his incredible manly science mastery with one post called “Dinosaurs Are Fake And Never Existed Just Plaster Of Paris You’ve All Been Conned” and another in which he claims the moon landing was faked (“In fact, NASA nor anyone else has ever even left the atmosphere and gone into space.”). He’s also a Trump supporter.

Oh, why does none of that shit surprise me?

And what lovely “facts” he spouts, too. Rational as all hell, believing that dinosaurs have been faked and so has the Moon Landing. I be he also believes Alex Jones is the smartest and most rational man on Earth!

PS: Overdice, if you’re reading — threatening to sue for slander or libel is useless if she’s citing fact. And since you obviously hate women, calling you a misogynist (correct spelling) is FACT. Truth is an incontrovertible defence in lawsuits, and the truth is, YOU FUCKING HATE WOMEN. AND THAT MAKES YOU A MISOGYNIST, MOTHERFUCKER.

And frankly, you deserve to be out of a job.

Bina
8 years ago

…*bet* he believes, ugh

katz
8 years ago

I can’t get over that font. I swear the last time I saw it was on a hymnal from the 70’s.

Nequam
Nequam
8 years ago

@Skullpants: If an alien life form uses a MGTOW as a sample of humanity we’ll be lucky if they don’t call down their version of Exterminatus.

A Space Alpaca
A Space Alpaca
8 years ago

“This one thing I completely imagined is better than this other thing I completely imagined!”

These guys just make these for the circle jerk of upvotes right? Because they can’t honestly think that these things convince anyone that they’re right.

(I’m sure everyone totally knew who I was after my 7 posts, but I am the alpaca formerly known as Razwick)

In other news, I feel the need to come up with a recipe for Bitch Snacks now.

Or, well I sort of invented a cocktail, I may seriously consider renaming it Bitch Juice.

dlouwe
dlouwe
8 years ago

These are ridiculous and damaging charges that are never, never appropriate or accurate.

Literally nobody is racist or misogynist, ever, apparently.

Feminists are uneducated and lazy and don’t even know how to write, communicate or convey anything accurately with language.

Says the dude with atrocious writing, and who doesn’t know how defamation works.

Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

opposablethumbs
March 17, 2016 at 1:03 pm

Semi OT: I was reading the comments in the Grauniad (aka The Guardian, in Brit-landia) about an article on what sounds like a good initiative in Scotland called SHARE, aimed at reducing male suicide levels by offering men and boys support and a place to talk about it.

Mentioned that this kind of thing is what mras ought to be doing (instead of whingeing as per their SOP)

One bloke, who I presume is an MRA or an MGTOW or whatever from his comments generally, claims that this website

http://new.mankind.org.uk/

is an example of mras doing something positive to help men. I figured people here might be able to tell me a bit about what this place is???

Okay, the group itself checks out–they appear to do good work in the UK for men trying to get out of abusive relationships.

However, they don’t seem to be remotely affiliated with MRAs. Instead, MRAs love to cite them and their publicity campaigns and claim them as their own (even though they don’t seem to do serious fundraising to try and help the organization).

Oh, and David actually wrote about one of those publicity campaigns last year; the video was constantly being posted/linked to by MRAs on Reddit, so it finally got a closer look, and it seems to have been rather poorly edited–but even then, it would be more a matter of an unethical fundraising campaign than an endorsement of MRA/MGTOW bullshit.

https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/05/30/is-the-mankind-initiatives-violenceisviolence-video-a-fraud/

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Feminists are uneducated and lazy and don’t even know how to write, communicate or convey anything accurately with language.

Apparently, we’re all just speaking Simlish.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

Toree-nah? Deg-deg.

The Dark Avenger
The Dark Avenger
8 years ago

This pretty much summarizes them:

“ It’s called Axe body spray. Apparently they believe by dousing themselves with it, attractive women will hurl themselves at their feet. I’m afraid we’re dealing with, essentially, a mob of easily impressionable, angst-ridden adolescents and adults exhibiting signs of severe arrested emotional development, all with very questionable standards and sensibilities. They seek escapism that glorifies mindless violence and a pessimistic outlook because they’ve led a largely sheltered existence and have faced no notable hardships in their banal lives to understand the need for symbols of optimism and inspiration. They romanticize the darkness because they’ve never actually had to walk through it, except by fictional proxy.
I don’t know if they made you read A Clockwork Orange at Smallville High, Clark, but … droogs-in-training, albeit of a rather milquetoast, angry nerd strain. Luckily, we’re resilient enough to weather poor interpretations and bounce back. Let them have their moment. This, too, shall pass. ”
“ You’re still sore about the fetish rubber Bat-nipples and Bat Credit Card, aren’t you? ”
“ How many films has Schumacher made since then? Being a powerful and influential billionaire has its perks, Clark. By the time I’m done with Snyder, he’ll be directing promos for a Bangkok massage parlor that run on a UHF station at three in the morning, and glad to have the work. Even then, he’ll still believe he’s the groundbreaking Orson Welles of his generation, and attempt to drag down every other attempt to make massage parlor promos in order to make himself feel better about his own mediocre talent, then publicly complain that his intentionally divisive vision isn’t heralded as genius, but there’s not much I can do about delusions of grandeur of that depth and intensity, outside of padded walls and restraints provided by the Wayne Foundation, and a Joker-level regimen of meds.”
“ Sounds like maybe he just needs a super-hug. ”
“ Perhaps, but I’d prefer a paralyzing blow to the solar plexus, or a nice throat punch. But then, you’ve always been more altruistic and far less of a grudge holder than me, Kansas. ”

Redsilkphoenix
Redsilkphoenix
8 years ago

Speaking of vampires and menses….

Back in the mid-80’s, when I was a wee college student, a used book store I frequented regularly had some bins with used adult movie for sale. One of said movies had a plot involving a male vampire who targeted women on their periods to feed off of. (Which actually makes sense in a way, if you think about it.)

So that story trope does exist, at least in the porn genre. Whether this is a good thing or not remains to be seen.

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EJ (The Other One) | March 17, 2016 at 5:00 pm
Toree-nah? Deg-deg.

Firby nurbs!