The repellent pickup artist and wannabe philosopher Roosh Valizadeh startled even those of us who have been paying close attention to his ongoing terribleness by declaring in a blog post last August that it was “just a matter of time” before one of his fans loses it and goes on a murderous shooting rampage.
His plan to deal with this horrific possibility, which he regards as pretty much an eventuality? An “emergency protocol” that he and his supporters could follow, not to try to stop such a rampage before it happens, but to make sure that such a shooting wouldn’t make Roosh look too bad. Among other things, he suggested that his fans refrain from posting too many jokey animated gifs after a mass shooting by one of their number because “the world will be watching us.”
Now Roosh is recommending a similar “emergency action plan for when a Trump supporter murders a leftist.”
And yes, those are his exact words. Roosh continues:
It’s probably going to happen that a Trump supporter is threatened with his life by a mob of leftists and acts in legal self-defense. Even though he will be legally excused for the killing, the media will go crazy and start up with the “Trump has started a holocaust” rhetoric.
Yes, how unreasonable it would be to connect Trump’s repeated instigation of violence to an act of violence by one of his fans!
Oh, sorry, not violence. “Self defense.”
Trump must immediately denounce the violence and re-frame the issue as a man using force to defend his life or family, adding that this is why the Second Amendment is so important for all Americans.
And what if the murder weren’t an act of self-defense by someone who feared for their life?
If the use of violence by a Trump supporter is in no way justifiable from a legal self-defense standpoint and is possibly even a false flag attack, Trump should condemn the act and make a visible monetary donation to the health care costs of the victim, stating how as President he will heal the nation and prevent such attacks from even occurring.
Apparently Trump has some sort of magical power to make all murders cease with a wave of the hand and a shpritz of the Aqua Net.
In addition to providing this “emergency action plan” in case of murder, Roosh helpfully provides Trump and his campaign staff with some “talking points” they can use if the violence doesn’t lead to death.
“We have high energy while the left has criminal energy. They are trying to use violence to stop us from making America great again. Their leading candidate has the most criminal energy of all!”
Uh, that “low energy” thing worked on Jeb Bush because he walked around like a sad Charlie Brown; it was clear that he’d rather be anywhere than on the campaign trail. Is “criminal energy’ even a thing?
“Why are Hillary supporters so ready to use violence? Where did they get that criminal energy from? We can only wonder!”
Again with the “criminal energy.” Not going to work, dude.
“If you are confronted by an unstable liberal, extract yourself to safety. De-escalate the situation. Chicago has shown they do not want to have a logical debate on how to make America great again.”
You know, I’m going to set aside the fact that Roosh is talking about liberals as if they were rabid beavers. And the bit about liberals not wanting to have a “logical debate.” Because that “de-escalate the situation” is good. Very good.
Use this one, Mr. Trump. Tell your supporters to de-escalate, instead of fantasizing about punching protesters in the face yourself. Tell them to de-escalate, instead of telling them you’ll “pay for the legal fees, I promise” if they “knock the crap out of” any protesters in their reach.
Trump is really the only one who has sway with these people, the only one who could actually, through his words, help to reign in the wave of violence he has unleashed. But instead of telling his followers to “de-escalate,” he keeps escalating his own rhetoric. Now he’s “predicting” — that is, threatening — riots if he’s not the Republican nominee.
Will a Trump supporter end up killing a leftist? I don’t know. But I do know that if Trump keeps excusing, enabling, and at times directly inciting violence, more people are going to get hurt.
Roosh must be a vampire because he can’t see his own reflection.
It’s telling, isn’t it, that Roosh is outlining an emergency action plan for if a Trump supporter murders someone, and not a peep about a plan for if a Trump supporter is murdered by someone else, despite the fact that they keep railing about how a murder would be TOTALLY justified as self defence because those damn liberals are DEFINITELY the ones threatening the use of deadly force.
…murder victims don’t have health care costs. Because, you know, they’re DEAD.
Good on you David for bringing up Roosh’s other post, because that’s immediately what I thought of after I read this posts’ title.
Of course, no one in Trump’s group will listen to Roosh because, let’s face it, he’s not white enough for white supremacists.
In fact, I dare say, he bears a striking resemblance to the people Trump wants to “deport”. And he’s claimed to be one of them (as a “get out of criticism” card, which didn’t work)!
Something doesn’t follow here.
Trump’s “emergency action plan” is already in place. It’s called “blame the victim”.
I can’t be the only one seeing this as Roosh barely able to conceal his glee at the thought that a black person might be killed at a Trump rally.
He’s still holding out hope that the white supremacists will accept him as one of their own.
Project much?
I’m pretty sure if you’re already working on your contingencies you can’t claim it wasn’t premeditated, even if the victim will be chosen at random. Especially since all the violence and threats of escalation so far has been directed against people for peacefully protesting or disrupting with signs.
Aw Dammit it! I thought we were rid of him after the doxxing. (Which, admittedly, I am totally against no matter how much of an arsehole they are.) And the rape accusation. *Sigh* I thought it was too good to be true. I think I need a hug from a kitten now. 🙁
It’s only in “self-defence” if right-wing twatwaffles do it. Castle Doctrine, and all that shit.
These chucklefucks are actually considering a plan more sophisticated than “jack off like a squirrel monkey with a Viagra suppository”?
Not true. 🙁 Even if you don’t make it to a hospital before expiring, the EMTs usually show up to try to prevent that, and the ambulance company is going to want to be paid for that service.
If everyone can hear the dogwhistle, you’re doing it wrong.
Those sneaky liberals will stop at nothing, even forcing you to murder them!
(Seriously, WTF????)
Can someone explain this “high energy” thing they’ve been saying a lot recently? I must have missed something
Ohhhh no, can’t see this shit exploding very messily Roosh, nope not at all.
It was much nicer when Roosh wasn’t seen *or* heard. Go back under your rock/bridge/into your mom’s basement, Doosh, the great pumpkin doesn’t need any more idiots encouraging him.
My offer from the last time to accept examples of all this left violence or violence inciting rhetoric from the left I keep hearing about still stands. I’m still waiting. I didn’t hear about any violence out of the Chicago protests, so the protests themselves don’t count.
But while I’m waiting, I have a question. Do any of these fuckers know how a self defense plea actually works? I know nothing about the law, but I’m pretty sure it’s not, “Oh, you were acting in self defense when you shot this person and the leader of your organization is paying some money to someone? Yeah , you’re free to go.”
Also, given that guns were the preferred murder method from before and guns are used in self defense in a fractional, almost statistically negligible, number of cases, this amounts to nothing more than fantasizing about how to get away with murder. Anyone out there doing that, listen up: when you get to this point, you are going too far need to stop for everyone’s sake including your own.
Is it me, or does this come off as Roosh desperately wanting to be thought of as a presidential advisor?
I’m deeply confused about Roosh’s suggestion of a false flag operation in this context. Is he seriously suggesting that a liberal protestor would pretend to be a Trump supporter, then shoot and kill a different liberal protestor in order to make Trump supporters look bad?
I just…?
What?
If they seriously believe that they’re under attack by the Bernie Bros and have to shoot first or be killed, they’re even bigger wimps than I thought.
Meanwhile, here’s who’s the real danger to society:
https://youtu.be/ZCm5wVxsDlU
Drumpf supporters on acid, freaking the fuck out.
Oh! And also, Anders Breivik was heard kvetching about microwaved food and being in solitary. He has three whole rooms to himself at Club Fed of Norway. And I’m sure the food isn’t so bad, either, if his plump face is any indication. He’s just mad that he doesn’t get to be in the spotlight, playing Little Hitler.
This is Der Drumpf’s target demographic, here. Losers and wankers. Shitlords and fucksticks. Rapists and murderers.
And yet, they think WE’re the ones to be afraid of. It is to laugh.
To be fair to Roosh, it is quit prudent for Trump to start working on damage control before this happens.
But it would be even more prudent for Roosh to start thinking “if it’s inevitable that someone on my side is going to go on a killing spree, maybe it’s time to rethink who’s side I’m on.”
BTW with Trump’s pro violence rhetoric, when does it get to “yelling fire in a crowded theater” where it becomes outright illegal? He is threatening violence against the GOP if there’s a contested convention, how much further would he need to go before he can get charged with something?
I wonder if Trump actually already has a plan for if one of his supporters shoots someone.
@Bina
You put it very, very well!
I clicked through to the article about Breivik. It was pretty interesting. Also of interest: that smug face of his. Not unlike—Trump’s face?
@Number Sequence
I too am curious.
Those who call Donald Drumpf lord, please give us examples.
So is Ben Carson.