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Wait, why is she using a gun to hammer the nails in?

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Open thread! It’s Super Tuesday here in the US. Discuss today’s primaries, the evil that is Trump, politics in general.

 

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Johanna Roberts
8 years ago

Just hanging around at home, in LEO and took the chance to actually get my dishes done! \o/ I hope I can get out to vote later but with my disability it will be up to my health at the end.

Falconer
8 years ago

She’s using a gun as a hammer because somehow Hollywood got the idea that that’s what sheriffs and cowboys did in the Old West when they didn’t have an actual hammer: They misused a deadly firearm.

I think the last place I saw the trope was in that Star Trek episode where they hallucinate that they’re the Clancy gang and the Earps are going to kill them stone dead … because they done bothered the wrong aliens.

Chiomara
Chiomara
8 years ago

Okay, I need to get this off me: Trump is on brazilian news everyday now. Its truly disgusting, its like they were campaigning for him. They say like “Aaaand Trump seems to win the pre elections in another city!” ” Rubio takes back the bad things he said about Trump now theres a real possibility for him to win!” “Now lets know more about Donald Trump!”. They never mention how horrible he is!
I need to know: Is there a REAL possibility he wins?!
Also, is he buying foreign televisions? Because its honestly bizarre.

iknklast
iknklast
8 years ago

Is there a REAL possibility he wins?!

Short answer? Yes.
Long answer? AAAAARRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!

Unfortunately, Cruz is even worse in many ways. And Rubio? If he’s a moderate, I’m a vermicious kinit.

I blame Reagan. He started taking us down this road. Of course, the country didn’t have to actually follow him over this particular cliff.

lightcastle
lightcastle
8 years ago

Another theory on what’s going on with Trump.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

guy
guy
8 years ago

I need to know: Is there a REAL possibility he wins?!

Not especially. Projections say he probably becomes the Republican nominee and loses badly in the general election.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
8 years ago

I’m upset because my caucus place is about a mile away but it would take three buses to get to. So I’d have to walk. Normally not a problem but I’m feeling I’ll today and it’s freezing cold today. I really, really want to go but it’s bizarrely difficult for me to do so. Gah!

Nothing would keep me away from the general but for the caucus, I don’t know.

Alpine, RN
Alpine, RN
8 years ago

Ah the Republican primary, where the choices are:
1. A carnie who appreciates Mussolini
2. A lizard-person whose skin suit seems uncomfortable for him and
3. A man who failed the Turing Test…

oh and since apparently he’s still running…
4. A surgeon who brags about having stabbed a guy (wtf?)

and all of them want to control my reproductive options….and possibly cause World War 3

Alpine, RN
Alpine, RN
8 years ago

oh and the supposed “Moderate” who has legislated against women every single chance he gets

snork maiden
8 years ago

If he does win the nomination, I’m hoping against hope all those lifelong Republicans who have an ounce of common sense and actually do want what is right for their country will vote Democrat rather than see a dangerously stupid megalomaniac in the White House.

I realize the other Republican nominees aren’t much better than Trump, but they strike me as at least being intelligent enough that they wouldn’t attempt to build a wall across the Mexican border, or get rid of the internet.

ej
ej
8 years ago

@Chiomara
I think you’re seeing a lot of Trump on television because he is the most controversial. He’s loud and aggressive and always seems to be doing or saying something horrible. In short, he’s much more of a news story than any of the others.

This extra coverage probably does help him. It keeps people talking about him and may give him more votes, but it’s usually the more extreme voters who participate in the primaries. If he gets the nomination, Trump is going to have a very hard time appealing to the moderate voters that he will need to actually win the Presidency.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

I could see Trump winning if Clinton gets the Democrat nomination and Bernie Bros organize a write-in campaign (Sanders has said he will not run as independent), causing more red wins because of blue being divided. I don’t think it’s likely, but I think it’s possible.

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
8 years ago

Not American myself, but the UK for geopolitical reasons needs a good U.S President (gonna be close to whoever gets elected no matter what) so don’t stuff this election up.

syntax
syntax
8 years ago

Trump’s nebulosity and lack of seriousness might win him the primary, which would prompt serious election reform efforts on the part of the right for the first time in ages, but the fact that he’ll probably make money on this campaign because of the way he structured the loans should be nauseating enough.

If he goes up against Hillary in a debate he would be crushed by her comprehensive understanding of facts and actual political experience. He is a master of stagecraft and that is all that is keeping him afloat, he just says the most extreme version of whatever the right wants without deference to their power structure.

Swales
Swales
8 years ago

@ Johanna Roberts: is it hard to do the dishes in Low Earth Orbit? Doesn’t the water go everywhere?

Nequam
Nequam
8 years ago

California’s primary isn’t ’til June, so not much to say here.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Swales
From the videos I’ve seen from the space station it looks less messy than here on earth, though I haven’t seen any videos of dishwashing specifically. I’m thinking of videos of astronauts wringing wet towels, for example.

Also, I hated the scene in Gravity where she cries because I’ve seen actual footage of zero g crying and it was wrong. Of course, other stuff was wrong but that one bothered me.

RosaDeLava
RosaDeLava
8 years ago

@Chiomara
They did comment on some of his more… unortodhox positions, but even then it wasn’t treated with the seriousness it probably deserved.

I think ej is right. So much of journalism seems to be about shocking people rather than relating useful information – And given how many people in Brazil have been getting horribly reactionary as of late, I think Trump might even have quite a few fans here.

Pendraeg
Pendraeg
8 years ago

I’m really excited to caucus for Sanders this year, it’s the first election in years where I’ve actually really supported a candidate rather than just feeling like I’m holding my nose and picking the least distasteful.

Chiomara
Chiomara
8 years ago

@iknklast
HOLY SHIT,THERE IS?!!?!?

@EJ
Of that I know! But what is TERRIFYING is that he is not being portrayed as a monster! You see, if I was presenting him to the public I’d say “And Trump won another primary. For who doesnt know him, he is basically a fascist monster. And you should be terrified of him, especially being latinos or women. This guy hates your guts. He said xyz about latinos. Lets pray for him not to win.”
But what they are saying instead is “Trump won another primary 🙂 . For who doesnt know, he is a millionaire with some businesses in Brazil and he is controversial and funny. Other candidates have their jimmies all rusted up cause they cant stand how popular and different he is. He said xyz about Hilary, isnt that hilarious? Ah, good old Trumpy. She was so mad, but she had to pay for her tongue, cause he won again!”

It’s just terrifying. It’s very alike what they do with terrible brazilian polititians they support, making he seem a witty, moral lonely warrior fighting against all odds. But the difference is that I have no idea why would they do that for Trump. I fear Brazilian politics is getting so horrible his views are not even seen as that absurd by people here, nor by the news channels nor by the general public.

Tovius
8 years ago

@lightcastle

Another theory on what’s going on with Trump.

http://www.vox.com/2016/3/1/11127424/trump-authoritarianism

That was both fascinating and worrying.

Mike
Mike
8 years ago

I need to know: Is there a REAL possibility he wins?!

Though many of us in the U.S. can barely believe it ourselves, the truth is that yes, there’s a real possibility. Someone on Twitter (sorry I forget who) said something that disturbed me with its utter plausibility: since this is America, the odds are very good that there will be at least one very deadly mass shooting between now and November. So, what if whoever commits the shooting says that they’re with Islamic State (or maybe even just has a vaguely Arabic-sounding name)? It might generate enough fear, rage, racism and xenophobia to send Trump over the top.

At this point it’s doubtful that he would win against the Democratic candidate, but a lot of people in the U.S. are angry and afraid about the state of the world, and Trump is the one most directly speaking to that anger and fear.

AthVeg34F
AthVeg34F
8 years ago

Re: why is she using a gun to hammer that nail?

Maybe that’s where South Park got their idea for Puff Daddy’s Vote or Die video?

iknklast
iknklast
8 years ago

Chiomara – I don’t know if the chance is huge; I’ve seen some polls that has Trump beating Clinton and some that has him losing big. That means yes, there is a chance.

And if Hillary is the nominee for the Dems (likely), she will be the target of the most coordinated hate campaigns we have seen in a long time. Will they exceed what they threw at Obama? Don’t know, but it is possible. After all, they’ve hated Hillary since before Obama was old enough to run for President.

Sexism doesn’t hurt the Donald with his own group, but it could in the larger election. Even a lot of casual sexists hate the blatant nastiness of people like Trump and his supporters, so his open disdain for women may turn the tide. Or not.

If he does win the nomination, I’m hoping against hope all those lifelong Republicans who have an ounce of common sense and actually do want what is right for their country will vote Democrat rather than see a dangerously stupid megalomaniac in the White House.

I live with a lifelong Republican. He will not vote for any of the current Repub possibilities. Problem is, he’s talking about not voting for President at all, because he doesn’t much like the Dems either. That’s another possibility – just voting in the local elections and leaving the Presidential blank empty, which won’t help. However, he’s worried enough about the current dastardly foursome that he might be willing to make a vote against them rather than for Hillary (who he doesn’t hate, and actually sort of likes, but doesn’t trust).

Chiomara
Chiomara
8 years ago

@James
The whole world does. 🙁

@Rosa Yes. The news seem to treat him like he is funny. Much like Bolsonaro. I honestly do not understand how is the general public not more afraid of these guys than they are of the devil. I don’t know if I worry too much, but I am honestly… I used this word in this thread several times already, but here it goes: I am terrified.

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