The Knights Who Say Cuck rally around Trump in wake of KKK controversy

Compare the way Barack Obama talks to what Malcolm X or MLK said over 50 years ago.

Okay, I was actually planning a teal deer of a metaphor to try and explain the basic concepts of “Empathy” and “Object permanence” for a tenth time, but no. You just used ML-fucking-K as a beat stick in the context of “Well, I didn’t personally like the first black president because ME ME ME IT’S ALL ABOUT ME, therefore I’m stumping for a fascist wannabe-dictator who’s running on a platform of deporting and/or executing all PoC.” You are evil and I feel dirty for ever enjoying your past posts. Go suck on a banhammer. Scumbag.

I’ll let somebody else tackle the whitesplaining portion of this most vomitous of sentences, I need to go take my anger out on a few virtual zombies.

1: Get a SCOTUS ruling that ends gerrymandering, hard. This would almost completely demolish the GOP’s stranglehold on the House, without any voters actually changing their opinions. It would also weaken their control of many state legislatures.

I am so, so pessimistic on gerrymandering. My state passed a constitutional amendment making gerrymandering illegal. Then the next redistricting came around, and the state legislature gerrymandered the shit out of it. It was challenged almost immediately, and it took 4 years to finally get struck down by the courts. 2 separate rounds of house elections with illegal districts.

And although we finally get fairer districts for the next election (the state legislature ultimately didn’t get to draw these ones after failing 4 times to draw legal districts), we don’t even get enough time to vote out all the legislators who got their seats through gerrymandering before the next redistricting. And I guarantee that map will be illegal, because there ultimately aren’t any repercussions for doing so.

I always enjoy when someone who has contributed absolutely nothing to this conversation or any other that I recall comes in here to tell us how we’re doing it wrong. That’s got to be one of the most inane shallow type of internet comment there is.

Anyway. I was front row at a Bill Clinton speech once. I’ve always been lukewarm about him, but that day I was a huge fangirl. Like, I shook his hand and didn’t want to wash it ever again. That kind of fan. I can’t even describe it. We’ve all met charming and charismatic people before, but he’s on a whole other level. It took days for it to wear off, if not weeks. If I believed magic spells were a thing, I would sincerely believe he’d done one.

@zumahzumah

Wow, you guys are really bad at civil disagreement and arguing with people without insulting them and making assumptions about them.

This is pretty plainly inaccurate. You can find plenty of civil disagreement on these pages, as Paradoxical Intention pointed out.

You will also find examples of people expressing frustration and not engaging with the trolls, but that says nothing about their ability to disagree civilly. It just speaks to their willingness. Your issue is that you seem to believe anyone who wanders in deserves civil disagreement as a matter of course. Arguing against harmful beliefs takes time and energy, and no one is entitled to that just because they said something risable in a comments section.

Imagine how rude it would be to make that same assumption in every day life. When I’m playing cards with my family, is it fair to ask me to stop enjoying myself every single time my uncle brings up his deeply held conviction that women are not able to reach the same heights in Bridge play as men?* Should I be required to pull out my handily prepared list of sources that disprove his theory? Or am I permitted to be annoyed and talk to someone else instead?

*Yes, my real uncle really believes this, and yes, he feels a need to bring it up whenever someone (usually me) is getting uppity.

Translator’s note: We believe that the above mysterious message can be rendered into human-speak as follows.

HELLO EVERYONE!

YOU ARE ALL TOO HYPERSENSITIVE AND I FIND THAT THIS IRRITATES ME!

YOU’RE PURER-THAN-THOU, WHICH SOMEONE LIKE ME WOULD NEVER BE!

NOT THAT I’M SMUG ABOUT IT.

I WOULD NEVER STOOP TO TYPE THE THINGS THAT I’M CURRENTLY TYPING.

I DISLIKE YOU ALL BUT HOPE YOU’LL MISS ME WHEN I LEAVE

People who think that WHTM has a uniquely nasty comments section must have never been anywhere else on the internet ever.

People who think that WHTM has a uniquely nasty comments section must have never been anywhere else on the internet ever.

Well, it is (relatively) unique in that feminists are allowed to be nasty to misogynist trolls rather than the reverse seen every-bloody-where else.

@ viscaria

As a straight white bloke I never have to worry about that “representing the group” thing but the best comment I ever heard about that was from a guy called Romesh Ranganathan: “I feel bad about how much I’ve contributed to racism, because if you were ever on the fence about Asians and then you met me…”

A forced joke is something which you treat like fetch, trying to make it happen even though it isn’t going to happen.

I’m trying to work out which things we say can be classed as forced jokes. Possibly SFHC confusing Matt Forney and Mike Cernovich?

Matt Forney, Dean Esmay and Jack Barnes are different people? I thought it was the same person using different names depending on how long his hair was at the time.

Trump voter on Fox News says he likes that Trump doesn’t give specific policy ideas because otherwise other candidates might steal them.— Elise Foley (@elisefoley) March 2, 2016

Forced joke?

I would need an example. If someone else found it funny it was not forced. Because humor is subjective things can be objectively funny and not-funny to different people. But you can’t force funny. Humor is about turning the negative into the positive in feeling terms which is why if it does not work the reactions tend to be bad.

Unless the suggestion is that people are pretending it’s funny via social pressure?