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“The goal of feminism is to turn women into rape-meat,” Roosh V pal Matt Forney claims

Matt Forney: Has opinions about rape
Matt Forney: Has opinions about rape

The bald blob of human garbage known as Matt Forney seems to be hungering for attention again.

The schlumpy ubermensch, a budding white supremacist and regular contributor to Return of Kings, has made a (terrible) reputation for himself with a series of clickhate posts sporting titles like “How to Crush a Girl’s Self-Esteem” and “Why Fat Girls Don’t Deserve to Be Loved,” the latter posted without shame despite the fact that Forney is himself something of a fatty. (Full disclosure: I am also a fatty.)

Apparently inspired by his buddy and mentor Roosh Valizadeh, Forney also posted (then later deleted) what was in essence a date-rape how-to called “Why Girls Rarely Mean No When They Say No.”

Forney has now composed another masterpiece in this genre, a post in which he sets out to explain “Why Feminists Want Men to Rape Them.” Forney, himself recently accused of raping an unconscious woman, argues — and I use the term loosely — that

[e]verything feminists do, from holding up “Refugees Welcome” signs at airports to passing affirmative consent laws, is geared around encouraging men to assault them.

This isn’t a conscious urge. No feminist wakes up in the morning and thinks to herself, “I’m gonna try and get raped today!” …

But deep in the recesses of her lizard hindbrain, the average feminist wants nothing more than for a man to shove her into a wall and force himself deep inside her.

Forney tries his best to give this appalling nonsense a “scientific” sheen, asserting that “Feminism is an r-selected ideology, and rape is an r-selected sexual strategy.” K-selected conservatives see the world as a big competition in which resources are limited, Forney asserts, while r-selected lefties “want a world of free resources: free food, free money, free shelter and free sex.”

Life is to short for me to waste any more of my time or yours in trying to explicate Forney’s pseudoscientific “logic” here, so instead I’m going to simply quote seven of Forney’s most odious pronouncements from his post.

Rape “is an inherently leftist form of sex” because lefties are all about entitlement

Much in the same way leftists feel entitled to take other peoples’ money away through taxation and welfare, rapists feel entitled to stick their penises in girls’ vaginas. In fact, you could say that rape is an inherently leftist form of sex, which would explain why so many male feminists, such as Jian Ghomeshi and Hugo Schwyzer, enjoy assaulting and abusing girls.

Sexual assault is sexual socialism: redistributing nookie to the least privileged in society.

Feminists like rape because they want babies but are too lazy to have sex

From an r-strategist’s perspective, rape is a good thing, because it allows a female to have children without having to do anything, aside from breathe. …

Every feminist, deep down, wants nothing more than a rapist’s baby in her belly.

Feminists won’t condemn Muslim refugees as rapey monsters because they want Muslim refugees to rape them

In the darkest recesses of their minds, feminists want swarthy refugees to punch them in the face, tear their clothes off, and spit roast them like plump, juicy swine.

When feminists say we shouldn’t blame the victims of rape, it’s because they want more girls to go out and get raped

The oft-repeated feminist chant, “Don’t teach women not to get raped, teach men to not rape,” is an explicit call for girls to place themselves into situations where they’re likely to get sexually assaulted, then dodge all blame.

Feminists want women to get fat and cover themselves in tattoos so men will think they’re ugly

[P]ushing “fat acceptance,” tattoos and piercings, and encouraging girls to be “bossy” and sarcastic is about crippling females’ ability to compete for men.

Feminists are training men to be rapists

[F]eminists have been trying to train men to rape girls for years. …

Affirmative consent laws and “rape culture” claims are a two-pronged attack on masculinity, designed to advantage sneaky males and hurt masculine men, and there’s no sneakier male than a rapist. 

Feminists love Muslim rapists so much they’ve become traitors to Western Civilization. Also, Muslims have small penises.

Because feminists couldn’t create a rape culture, they imported one from the Middle East. …

The only thing that will stop the rape-lust of feminists and their poorly-endowed Muslim abusers is Western men having the courage to call it out. There can be no compromise, no peace with these traitors inside the walls.

I have nothing clever to say here. Forney is a stain on humanity.

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Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
8 years ago

[e]verything feminists do, from holding up “Refugees Welcome” signs at airports to passing affirmative consent laws, is geared around encouraging men to assault them.

https://archive.is/hLYMJ

How to Beat Your Girlfriend or Wife and Get Away with It

If she likes to be spanked until it hurts, spank her until her butt is red raw. If she likes that, spank her until she has welts. You get the idea. The goal is to constantly violate her boundaries

1. You will never get arrested.

http://33.media.tumblr.com/f41663cd533c965bcfd49e2f0a4d9105/tumblr_inline_o23d3eayLk1rwpb4e_500.gif

No! you, Matt, are encouraging men to assault women.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

@Zer

no kupo, this blog’s setting does not allow such bots.

I’m a software engineer. I could easily write a script that could auto-post spam, even on a board like this that requires a login. It would probably take me longer to do that than to just post them, so it really wouldn’t be worth it unless I was doing it on multiple sites, but it’s certainly doable. And when multiple nyms come on here, ignore the conversation, and post a bunch of very similar walls of text full of information the commenters here already know, it looks suspicious, so that’s why I commented on it.

The real question, then, is why are you posting walls of text about how Roosh is a rapist in this thread?

As a side note, it’s nearly impossible to sort out your writing from your quotes from Roosh. If you are looking to have a conversation I would suggest using the quote button to format your quotes.

Zatar
Zatar
8 years ago

UGH. Affirmative consent and talking about rape culture ENCOURAGE rape? What backwards alternate universe does this asshole live in? I get guess that his logic runs like this “I want it to be true so therfore it must be true.” What a fucking asshole.

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
8 years ago

Doctors often dislike me because I do tend to prove the “fat people are unhealthy” myth a lie with my low cholesterol, average blood pressure and otherwise good health.

I have high blood pressure, but I had that before I got fat; it runs in my family. Now I’ve been diagnosed with prediabetes, which, if you look it up, a lot of doctors don’t even support as a diagnosis because as it turns out, most people diagnosed with it don’t become diabetic at all. So it’s useless.

I actually exercise daily and my trainer nags me to eat more on a regular basis, so I’m not exactly sitting around eating bonbons all day either. I’ve lost some girth and some fat, but very little weight; a lot of it is turning into muscle. And I don’t look different, despite having lost 3 pants sizes.

I’ll always be fat, because of the way I’m built, and I need to be okay with that and just aim for being healthy-fat. If I can get down to the size I was in high school I will seriously need to stop losing weight then because I don’t think it’s good for me to be less than a 14 in dress sizes.

Some people aren’t supposed to be thin, and judging by my enormous head, my entire family and the way my blub is converting to muscle rather than disappearing, I’m one of them.

I just wish the rest of the world would figure that out and stop penalizing me and the rest of us.

kupo
kupo
8 years ago

UGH. Affirmative consent and talking about rape culture ENCOURAGE rape? What backwards alternate universe does this asshole live in?

Because if you outlaw sex without consent, only criminals will have sex without consent.

Am I doing it right? Mens’ righting is so hard. I have to turn off reason and accountability to do it.

dreemr
dreemr
8 years ago

I didn’t see the earlier post about being fat yet being healthy – I have the same “counter-intuitive” qualities, normal blood pressure, non-diabetic, great cholesterol levels. I am fortunate that I now have a health care professional (a nurse practitioner) who looks out for my health at any size and does not even unintentionally betray any disgust. It doesn’t happen often so I LOVE her!

Before I went to see her last summer, I went to a new doctor 2 years earlier (my regular doctor had moved to another state) who happened to be a very thin woman. I had a list of things to talk to her about and went in for a physical. I wanted to talk to her about weight loss – nothing drastic, I just wanted to ease up the pressure on my knees. She flat out told me “there’s nothing I can do to help you”. She didn’t refer me to a dietitian, she did not bother to talk to me about exercise or small goals, just told me there was no hope other than gastric bypass, which I “most likely won’t qualify for”. It sent me into a low-level depression for 2 years.

I finally went in to see this particular Nurse Practitioner because she had seen my son for his Gardisil inoculations and I was very impressed with her manner. I went to see her to have my anti-depressant refilled and she casually asked me if there were anything else I wanted to ask about? How did I feel about my weight? There was no judgment at all in her question, and I burst into tears, telling her what had happened 2 years previously with the other doctor, I hadn’t even realized how painful it had been until she asked me about it.

She immediately gave me a referral to a dietitian; she listened to my goals – just to be able to move around more freely, to have less pain in my knees – and asked me what kind of exercise I thought I could handle – could I, for instance, walk to the mailbox every day? Something very small. She recommended a meal-tracking app for me to get an idea of what I was eating every day. She asked if there were any small changes I could make, did I, for instance, take sugar or milk in my coffee? Did I think I might be able to drop that at all?

It changed so much for me, just being LISTENED to, being treated as a human being. It gave me hope for the first time – not hope of ever being thin, but hope that I could achieve my modest goals. She has been a cheerleader to me for the 6 months since I started seeing her, and in fact I have lost 30 pounds and I eat a much better and tastier variety than I did before. I can move around so much more easily, I can walk our dog, I can do things with my son that I could not before.

The experience with the previous doctor had robbed me of all hope, and, even worse, made me feel like there was no POINT in even trying. I didn’t bother to eat healthy after that because WHY BOTHER? I’m fat and I don’t deserve to eat healthy or good-tasting food, right? She did so much damage. I avoided doing things that I might have enjoyed, because of the shame and depression. But just a couple of weeks ago I went to an AC/DC concert with my 14 year old son, his very first, and I was able to climb all the way up to the nosebleed section for our seats. I never would have considered going to such an event during the 2 prior years.

My NP now actually calls me to check in with me in between visits. She’s incredible. The other doctor could learn a lot from her.

Sorry this is so long.

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
8 years ago

One of the major things for me in forming healthier habits (which, again, have not caused me to lose a lot of weight) was having more money.

Let’s not kid ourselves here, money is a huge factor. I needed workout gear, including shoes and swimsuits, swimcaps and goggles. I needed a membership to a fitness club where I could do the exercise I enjoyed.

When I changed how I ate, I needed money for fresh fruit, which is substantially more expensive than processed stuff. I needed extra money for experimenting with food.

I have also laid out a substantial sum to remove barriers to exercising. These barriers were larger for me than they were for others, but they were legitimately barriers to me.

The biggest one was hair removal. Yes, really. My skin is very delicate and shaving my legs constantly was a very literal bloodbath, painful and very messy, yet I did not feel able to have hairy legs when I swam. So I saved my money for a year or so and had laser hair removal done, so I can go to the pool without worrying about it.

The biggest barrier to most women when we’re talking about swimming is that they do not want to be seen in a swimsuit. Their fat stops them.

I try to tell them that it’s mostly old people and fellow fat folks at the pool, but nothing doing–there’s a lot of women who hate the way they look so much that it leaves them unable to do anything about it.

By the way, a lot of workout gear is also deliberately made to be super tight. Guess what kind of clothes make big people feel even larger? Guess what kind of clothes big people definitely don’t want to wear in front of others? Oh. Right.

Ashara Payne
Ashara Payne
8 years ago

Have people seen the latest ROK post with its schadenfreude-full comments about sex-bots? It’s hilarious how they all view sex as a market-place and are delighting in how sex-bots will reduce women’s value. They seem totally clueless that their rantings demonstrate what vile misogynists they really are.
http://www.returnofkings.com/78819/how-fast-approaching-sexbot-technology-is-making-women-fearful

Yeah, I’m quaking in my boots. Wombless reproductive tech is just around the corner no doubt/sarcasm. Even if it were, I’d imagine many women might be relieved not to have to endure the discomforts and risks of childbirth.

They also simultaneously want women to be subservient wives totally dependent on their husbands, yet denigrate women who ARE like that, while assuming that all women are like that.

They also want women to be promiscuous and allow them easy sex while at the same time denigrating them for it. It’s mind-boggling.

I suspect they are so wrapped up in themselves and what they want that they simply can’t see the utter idiocy they’re spouting, which is basically ‘why won’t they have sex with meeeee and pick up after meeeee and bring meeeee beers on demand and make meeeee sammiches? Sex-bots will do all that, then they’ll be sorry they rejected meeeeeeeee’

dreemr
dreemr
8 years ago

@Jarnsaxa, seconding your observation that it costs MONEY.

I have always been a bigger person, but it was my years in poverty as a single mother that paved the way for me to become obese.

Good, nutritious food is expensive compared to cheap stuff that just makes you not hungry anymore. Also, you need to be able to plan meals and cook them. I made nutritious meals for my child, however, I was so poor that I could not eat high-quality food myself AND pay the bills. So I ate a lot of high-calorie, filling food that did not have a whole lot of nutrition going for it.

I have eschewed shaving for about 30 years so that was not an obstacle for me, and I had always been very active – golfing, softball, swimming. But I had moved to a very small, rural area where there were no health club options (even if I’d been able to afford a membership, which I no longer could at that time). Even though agriculture is the primary industry here, it is a food desert in practical terms – there is one small grocery store within an hour’s drive and the prices are easily double what they are in the city – not to mention there is very little variety. I could not afford the gas to drive to the larger city and stores (not to mention I could not afford a reliable vehicle, either, so I was taking a huge risk when I did actually make the trip).

Poverty and obesity go hand in hand.

Margaret Pless
Margaret Pless
8 years ago

In the darkest recesses of their minds, feminists want swarthy refugees to punch them in the face, tear their clothes off, and spit roast them like plump, juicy swine.

Guess we know what’s in Matt Forney’s porn stash.

Jamesworkshop
Jamesworkshop
8 years ago

@Ashara Payne

Roosh and fans should be pretty worried about sex bots since they’ll be stronger than any mortal man

ColeYote
ColeYote
8 years ago

I can’t think of anything clever to say. Forney is garbage. Roosh V is garbage. Anyone who likes RoK is garbage. And as someone with a con-non-con thing I feel fairly confident in saying nobody wants to be raped. Rape is, by definition, unwanted.

VioletBeauregarde
VioletBeauregarde
8 years ago

Ugh…this is just…ugh. There are no words!

Unlucky Blackjack
Unlucky Blackjack
8 years ago

@VioletBeauregarde

Oh, there are words. Most of them profanities, some of them long sighs. There is only one face though:

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
8 years ago

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What.

This also makes me feel extra appreciative toward this community. I’ve never truly been a part of any online community before, and this is also the first place I’ve ever been open about my gender dysphoria. I really love you all.

Full disclosure: I’m very drunk right now (margaritas again).

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/awwwww.gif

ThatBear
ThatBear
8 years ago

I know I’m preaching to the choir, but: sex is not currency.

I want to shout it from a blimp, tattoo it on my face, plaster it on billboards, spam it on every forum.

Sex. Is. Not. Currency.

Women are not hoarding sex. Sex does not get (re)distributed. We can never run out of it. There is no competition for it. It is not a resource; it is an activity. It would be like running out of “rock climbing” or “throwing a birthday party.”

Any models that compare sex to currency are not even wrong. They would need to take a few more steps in the right direction to get to “wrong.”

(General spittle-flecked spluttering incoherent frustrated noises, fist shaking, sigh of deep weariness, depression)

Mish
Mish
8 years ago

I do believe that you could superimpose a large photo of vomit onto Forney’s post and no one would be able to tell the difference.
Brain bleach gorgeous pics are much appreciated – thank you. I read somewhere that baby platypus are not actually called puggles (that’s baby echidnas) but I think puggle really, really suits them both. A suggested name was ‘platypup’ 🙂

dreemr
dreemr
8 years ago

I vote also for more platypuppies. Cuter than I thought they’d be!

bluecat
bluecat
8 years ago

So… the people who say ‘Hey, stop raping” are the ones who are pro rape and the people who say “Here’s how to rape, you should definitely try these rape methods” are … whut?

I think I just blew a logic bulb.

Oh, and more baby platypi please, more margharitas and did Zer use to be called Jenny?

Lkeke35
Lkeke35
8 years ago

@Jarnsaxa and Dreemr:

The two of you have outlined every point along the continuum of poverty= obesity.

Even when you find time to cook, that time is spent, taking care of others needs or sleeping, becasue you’re exhausted.

There’s a bunch of rules about eating and going to sleep, well some people have jobs where they get whatever rest they can grab, after eating whatever food they can get.

I think recently some Hollywood actress tried some kind of poverty experiment, where she only had a specific amount of money to spend for a week or something. She failed spectacularly at it, reaching natural the conclusion that it’s impossible to eat healthy on such a budget.

Healthy food costs money.

And once you get money, sometimes this is well into adulthood, youve built a lifetime of bad eating habits that you now have to unlearn.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/02/12/the-crippling-thing-about-growing-up-poor-that-stays-with-you-forever/?utm_source=pocket&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=pockethits

J Star
J Star
8 years ago

Surely it couldn’t be that some people think tattoos are *gasp* SEXY?!

ThatBear
ThatBear
8 years ago

@greyskye

You are my hero now. When I was fat, I would never, ever have had the courage to pull shit like that.

My biggest regret about being fat is that I let it make me ashamed. And honestly, I’m still ashamed of my body, even though I’m not fat and I don’t think fat people ought to be ashamed.

Fat-shaming is a big pet peeve of mine. It does so much damage and so little good.

shay simmons
shay simmons
8 years ago

Well, looking at Forney’s photo, it could be that he’s convinced himself he’s being rejected by women for being an a$$hole (which is better than listening to that little voice inside telling him he’s being rejected for being a schlub).

If that makes sense.

Professor Fate
Professor Fate
8 years ago

Felt my soul wither a bit while reading that…wish I could some up with something snarky or even angry but all that comes to me is the line from heart of darkness “The Horror. The Horror.”