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Roosh V shocked to discover that white supremacist movement is full of white supremacists

Roosh V: Stunned to discover that racists are racist
Roosh V: Stunned that racists are racist

Roosh Valizadeh has been having a bit of a tough time this year, to put it mildly.

He’s been condemned in dozens of publications around the world as a “rape advocate.” An Icelandic woman has come forward to accuse him of rape, according to feminist blogger S. Jane Gari. Members of Parliament have joked about his penis in the House of Commons, and now a member of the European Parliament is trying to get him and his followers banned from traveling to Europe. Jemaine Clement of Flight of the Conchords mocked the Return of Kings publisher as “King of Your Mum’s Basement” after The Daily Mail found him, well, living in his mum’s basement.

And on top of all this, Roosh has now made a horrifying discovery: the white supremacist movement he’s been trying to cozy up to for some time now is full of … white supremacists.

And they don’t much like seeing a guy that many of them consider a “sand n****r rape apologist,” as one unkind alt-righter put it in a recent tweet, messing around with “their” white women.

For a time last year, as unlikely as this may sound, it looked as though Roosh and the alt-right were on their way to becoming a cute couple. Roosh seemed to be nudging himself alt-rightward, evidently hoping to lure some of the internet’s Hitler-loving, meme-posting scallywags to Return of Kings; he even wrote a long post on the alleged evils of The Jews.

And while there were always quite a few in the alt-right camp who saw Roosh, of Iranian and Armenian descent, as the enemy — a “self hating Arab,” a “greasy Iranian,” a “degenerate muzzie” (Muslim), or worse — there were others, like Counter-Currents publisher Greg Johnson, who saw Roosh as “an ally … someone with whom we share delimited common interests and with whom we can fight common enemies.”

But no longer. Johnson, after looking at Roosh’s own writings about his past sexual experiences. has concluded that either Roosh’s stories are fiction presented as fact, or he’s a rapist, just as many feminists have been saying for months or even years.

And now Roosh is lashing back with a Return of Kings post titled, no joke, “The Alt Right Is Worse Than Feminism In Attempting To Control Male Sexual Behavior.”

Roosh is apparently stunned to discover that white supremacists don’t like men they deem insufficiently white sleeping with, much less raping, white women. This, to Roosh, is a sign that “a large section” of the otherwise unobjectionable alt-right movement

has degenerated into a collection of fearful beta males who are obsessed with controlling the sexual choices of all men and who they’re allowed to associate with.

Indeed, Roosh reports incredulously, alt-rightists believe that

[i]f you’re a white male, you’re forbidden to sleep with a non-white girl, because that is “race mixing” and goes against their race platform … .

You don’t say. Meanwhile,

[i]f you’re a non-white male, you’re not allowed to sleep with a white girl, because you’re a n****r/kebab/gook, and you must be deported from the country you happen to be a citizen of or outright killed.

What a shock! I mean, it’s not as if these guys go around the internet declaring that interracial relationships are a form of “white genocide” or anything like tha … oh wait, they do.

Roosh, who up until this point seems to have somehow missed the white supremacist elements of white supremacism, thinks the alt-right’s aversion to “race mixing” is something they only came up with in the last couple of months.

The alt right started as a nationalist movement, and that’s what many people believe it to currently be, but we’re only three months away from it being a movement primarily concerned with minimizing the sexual choices of everyone. … 

If the bulk of alt right practitioners have their way, white men will not be allowed to date non-white women and non-white men will not be allowed to date white women or even flirt with them. …

Some ideas of the alt right were sound, since they offered a path for us to move forward against the leftist establishment, but that has now been lost with the added dimension of controlling who men can enter relationships with, sexual or not. …

I can no longer support the alt right, since they’re now mostly under the control of the mob.

Adding yet another level of irony to the already heaping mountain of irony here, Roosh complains that the evil alt-right has been seducing vulnerable men with pretty lies:

They will seduce discontented men with white identity and white pride, allowing them entry into the club based primarily on skin color, and then pull the switcheroo and grossly limit their behavior in a way that is worse than feminism.

Yep, that’s’ right. Roosh is so regretful that he ever lay down with the alt-right in the first place that he’s starting to wonder if feminism might serve horny men better than the movement he until recently supported:

The alt right is becoming so authoritarian that a man may actually be happier as a male feminist and sleeping with blue haired freaks with Skrillex haircuts than having all his sexual and friendship choice subject to approval by the alt right mob.

But don’t worry! Roosh is not giving up any of his old bigotries. While complaining about the alt-right’s racism, at least so far as it might interfere with his choice of who to put his penis in, Roosh complains that his new enemies aren’t bigoted enough against gays. After denouncing Johnson of Counter-Currents as an anal-sex having homosexual (I have no idea if that’s true or not), he complains that alt-righters will

go on and on about the Jewish question—and attack you if you don’t—but ignore discussion of the “homosexual question” and its role in wrecking societies.

Roosh’s most surreal accusation? After noticing that Johnson had apparently found some of the most damning quotes from Roosh in a post of mine (!), he asked in a Tweet if Johnson and I were “working together,” an accusation so ridiculous that Roosh might as well have accused me of boiling and eating kittens. (For the record: I’m not working with Johnson or any others of his ilk; indeed, I only learned of Johnson’s denunciation of Roosh from Roosh’s own post on the subject. Also, I have never boiled or eaten even a single kitten.)

But I can’t say I don’t enjoy the spectacle of Roosh and the alt-right trading insults and attacking one another for blindingly obvious things they somehow managed to overlook about one another until now.

In a response to Roosh’s angry post, Johnson has put up another post of his own mocking “cuckold porn-monger Roosh ‘the Doosh’ Valizadeh” for  not realizing that a racist movement was full of racists. And then he declared war:

As Andrew Anglin astutely observed, Roosh sells interracial cuckold porn — and tweets about cuckolding white men — to legions of adoring White Nationalist followers. I don’t know what’s worse: the obscenity of this situation or the absurdity. But it needs to end. Now that Roosh has declared “I can no longer support the alt right,” it is time for the Alt Right to return the favor.

I’ll just be sitting here eating popcorn.

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Kat
Kat
8 years ago

Roosh boasts about his degree in microbiology and having worked in the field.

First he studied microorganisms, and then he took his expensive education and used it to study girls, yada, yada, yada.

But for a scientist, he sure seems to be unobservant. You’d think someone that smart and accomplished would notice that white supremacists are white supremacists.

Bryce
Bryce
8 years ago

You have to wonder if Polish authorities could have Roosh charged and extradited following an allegation, using the accounts in his books as conclusive evidence. Or whether he could be charged in the US for that matter.

He’s admitted forced penetration rape in a published work, apparently without any fear of incriminating himself. So I guess not…

Lunetta
Lunetta
8 years ago

@ Ashara

It’s almost as though, because he really wants the latter, but it doesn’t exist in most Western countries, he’s decided to abuse the system he is in as a form of temper tantrum protest.

You’ve effectively summed up the situation, not just for this particular dickhead, but the whole lot of them, amazingly succinctly. Kudos!

katz
8 years ago

In chem lab there was a big round of squeeing when we found a 10 mL beaker.

Verist
Verist
8 years ago

By the way: not that it ultimately matters, but yes, despite Roosh’s childish homophobic slur, Greg Johnson is attracted to men. This has been confirmed to me in the past through a couple of mutual friends I have with him. At least a couple of other authors associated with his site Counter-Currents (James O’Meara and Jack Donovan) are also gay. They just tend to be more discreet about it, to varying degrees (i.e. I’m not exactly dragging anyone out of the closet with this post), so as not to alienate their largely-heterosexual white nationalist readership.

When they do dare to speak out in defense of homosexuality, it’s generally couched in terms of reaffirming one’s masculinity through closeness with other manly macho men and rejecting the “weakness” of femininity (which means their worldview is not at all incompatible with misogyny and transphobia). Donovan supposedly even identifies as an “androphile” in order to avoid the “effeminate” associations of the word “gay.” At least one of these guys (O’Meara, if I recall correctly, who has also published a book called–ugh–“The Homo and the Negro”) has actually tried to argue that homophobia only arose out of “Jewish decadence.” I shit you not.

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DID SOMEONE SAY MINIATURES????

Because I’ve been curating a lot of fun miniatures (as they relate to dolls) on Pinterest as of late.

Dollhouses
Doll Furniture
Doll Props (As in tiny things dolls can hold and/or interact with)
Doll Clothes
Hell, I even have a board just for dolls.

And if you’re feeling crafty and would like to make some miniature stuff for yourself:
Doll DIYs
Doll Printables

And if you want something that’s miniature, but isn’t exactly doll related, I also have a board for gardens that’s got a lot of fairy garden stuff as of late.

MexicanHotChocolate
MexicanHotChocolate
8 years ago

It’s like watching a giant, sentient, pus filled boil fighting a giant, sentient flaming bag of dog turds. Whoever wins, humanity loses.

EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

@Bryce:
Whenever the discussion turns to the idea of using his books as a tacit confession of rape, Valizadeh has always fallen back on the “everything in the books might be fiction and you can’t prove that it isn’t” defence. SFHC called this phenomenon Schrödinger’s Asshole.

Strangely, Valizadeh’s fans aren’t bothered by this: they know he’s a rapist and are fine with it, and so lying about it doesn’t alienate them. If anything, being given the opportunity to be “in on” that lie and participate in it helps make them feel that he’s taken them into his confidence and thus makes them feel even closer.

This is why the “As Far As Anyone Knows, Roosh Is A Virgin” joke is so funny: it inverts the Schrödinger’s Asshole dynamic and uses it against Valizadeh.

(Scott Alexander coined the phrase “motte and bailey” for this sort of defence, and the term instantly fell into widespread misuse as a pejorative applied to pretty much everything. Scott, if you’re reading this, I hope you’ve learned the value of more rigorously defined terminology.)

rugbyyogi
rugbyyogi
8 years ago

While certainly conservative traditions are far more likely to turn a blind eye to men’s sexual indiscretions – they do seek to control both men and women’s sexual behaviour. He should know that from his own religious and conservative traditions. An outward prudishness is expected for men and women.

But then again, Roosh is such a hot mess of internal contradictions. And surely, surely all he needed to do was look in the mirror to know that maybe he wasn’t top notch white supremacist material. (Of course this is confused by Persian Arianism which I believes the Nazis used only for expediency and oil.) He self-declared as a Muslim at some point last year – did he think that they wouldn’t notice? Yes, there are some misogynist types who claim that the Muslims are clever in the way that ‘they control their women’ – but I think most of the American alt-Right are vehemently anti-Islam and anti-Muslim. Many, like my ex, may admire the way that some Muslim societies are able to maintain a broad cultural conservatism and assert their cultural values widely, but they despise the decadence and in some cases depravity of wealthy Arabs. And they despise everything else about Islam. I know Roosh isn’t Arab, but he is decadent and depraved and he may or may not be Muslim.

occasional reader
occasional reader
8 years ago

Hello.

I wonder if this can be translated in PUA report style…

” First, i remarked this HB10 and decided to try an opportunist opener :
– ‘ Hey, pretty ! Jews are bad ! ‘
– * Giggle *
Now, i had to try to comfort her, so as the PUA101 says, i asked her name :
– ‘ And how shall i call you, beautiful ? ‘
– ‘ Supremacy. White Supremacy, of Whiteworldland. You ?’
I think this is where i made my first mistake. I used to give a false name, because when you rap… ravish her wet ladypart and drop her just after, she better not remember exactly who you are… Thus the wig, too… Anyway, by a strange feat of fate, i indulged in my real name :
– ‘ The name is Daryush Valizedeh, but you can call me Roosh from now, nicy. ‘
– ‘ … Er… What ? ‘
– ‘ What what ? ‘
– ‘ Wait, i can’t really see you in this darky street where you made contact with me after having follow me for 1/4 of hour… Show me your face better. ‘
Wow, i was not thinking for kiss close so fast, so i leaned a bit close to her
– ‘ But… You are not… white !? ‘
– ‘ Er… yeah, but i’m a not-jew male, who lift a lot ! ‘
– ‘ That’s a no ! Definitively a no, you filthy foreigner ! Out of my sight ! Out of my country ! Out of my world ! ‘
Oh, the bitch shield was actived, and it looked like a tough one. But i had already deal with hysteric (obviously) bitches, so i was gonna replace her with a few good negs :
– ‘ Ho, com’on, such uppityness… Your rebuttal is like you are supporting homosexuality ! You are worse than feminism ! Are you proud of that ? ‘
But it had not end well. As you know, i had already experienced beer on the head… but this time, it’s tar and feathers ! Run away ! Run away from this NHB1 with so many insecurities and cooties ! ”

I guess we can not have such a field report on RoK…

Have a nice day.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
8 years ago

I wonder what Roosh thinks nationalism is based on, if not ethnicity.

Kate Minter
Kate Minter
8 years ago

Prediction: one day Roosh will marry Matt Forney. #DoTheRightThing #PutARingOnIt

Luzbelitx
8 years ago

@wwth

Kitten Boat + Miniatures and kittens = you win forever

I had a baby kitten once, found him crying and nearly starved on the streets. He died a tragic death before his 6 months and I felt too guilty to adopt a furry baby since then 🙁

Here’s my two babies back then. R.I.P. Millennial.

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Last year, days after my very bad breakup, a furry lady wandered into my back yard and decided we were worthy slaves to her. She’s old, has some missing teeth and seems to have been beaten, I’m guessing by both humans and other cats.

She’s very sweet and was very angry when we left for a week, now we’re friends again and she follows me to each room when I’m doing the house duties (and does her best to get in the way, of course).

I feel life gave me a second chance (I’m still reluctant to adopt babies though).

We call her Cristina Fernández de Kitty:

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Kularanini
Kularanini
8 years ago

Well Glen, you are correct. Whether it’s actually committing rape, admitting to rape to sell books, being a homophobic, bigoted rape apologist, actively hating women, travelling to other countries to fleece (or poison the minds of) desperate men with lies built on entitlement and hatred or just being pretty universally despised for all of the above (plus much more)…

…I have definitely never experienced any of that and I don’t want to. I’m hoping at least 90% of men out there haven’t experienced (and don’t want to experience) that either.

Jenny
8 years ago

@David

consider making also a new article about Roosh’s obsession with
being a serial killer, with mass shootings, building paramilitaries in Poland and in Eastern Europe, etc

People who know Roosh from real life say that he has no limits,
and considering his obsession with Hitler…

this is something that we readers would like to know more about:

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http://i.imgur.com/SclllyS.jpg

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Moggie
Moggie
8 years ago

Some ideas of the alt right were sound, since they offered a path for us to move forward against the leftist establishment

Ahahahaha “the leftist establishment”!

opposablethumbs
opposablethumbs
8 years ago

We call her Cristina Fernández de Kitty :-)))))) (I’d vote for her 🙂

Hit
Hit
8 years ago

While I am sympathetic to some of Roosh’s view. He does lack the awareness that he is a minority himself. He glorifies that 1950’s yet it’s likely that he and his family would have been discriminated against in that era.Also Roosh doesn’t go to the top night clubs in each city but rather he’ll go to the average one’s. A lot of countries are deeply racist and will not let anyone in, who isn’t white. It is because of the strides that the left has made that someone like Roosh has a platform at all.

David N-T
David N-T
8 years ago

I don’t know how Roosh thinks that it’s a good idea to aggravate white nationalists, especially considering that there’s a decent chance that he’ll have to share a prison cell with one some time in the future…

Freemage
Freemage
8 years ago

Victorious Parasol, now you’re quoting the Blues Brothers? If you get any more awesome, I’m going to end up a fanboy.

Glen
February 24, 2016 at 9:45 pm

David – I don’t agree with a lot of what Roosh has to say; and yes, his recent flirtation with the White Nationalists is an embarrassment. But to simply call him a basement-dwelling loser is ridiculous. He has travelled most of the world and experienced more than 90% of all men ever will.

Ah, but he IS a basement-dwelling loser. His status as a “loser” is without a doubt well-documented on this site, and his stats as a basement-dweller is now a matter of a confirmed media report (specifically, it’s his mother’s basement).

As for his travels, if we assume that he’s actually done everything he’s claimed, that still means he managed to travel the world without ever once actually appreciating it. He could’ve lived the same life he has while never going further than twenty blocks from his mom’s basement, although as he became a known entity in one neighborhood, he might’ve had to move on occasionally, lest he end up with more beer-showers. It takes a special sort of pathos to be able to circumvent the globe AND never actually leave your own tiny little box.

katz
8 years ago

Jenny. GO AWAY.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
8 years ago

He has travelled most of the world and experienced more than 90% of all men ever will.

Those experiences mostly consist of, by his own proud admission, raping dozens of women and girls, all either drunk and unconscious or crying and begging him to stop. I’m pretty sure most men don’t want to experience that.