Roosh Valizadeh has been having a bit of a tough time this year, to put it mildly.
He’s been condemned in dozens of publications around the world as a “rape advocate.” An Icelandic woman has come forward to accuse him of rape, according to feminist blogger S. Jane Gari. Members of Parliament have joked about his penis in the House of Commons, and now a member of the European Parliament is trying to get him and his followers banned from traveling to Europe. Jemaine Clement of Flight of the Conchords mocked the Return of Kings publisher as “King of Your Mum’s Basement” after The Daily Mail found him, well, living in his mum’s basement.
And on top of all this, Roosh has now made a horrifying discovery: the white supremacist movement he’s been trying to cozy up to for some time now is full of … white supremacists.
And they don’t much like seeing a guy that many of them consider a “sand n****r rape apologist,” as one unkind alt-righter put it in a recent tweet, messing around with “their” white women.
For a time last year, as unlikely as this may sound, it looked as though Roosh and the alt-right were on their way to becoming a cute couple. Roosh seemed to be nudging himself alt-rightward, evidently hoping to lure some of the internet’s Hitler-loving, meme-posting scallywags to Return of Kings; he even wrote a long post on the alleged evils of The Jews.
And while there were always quite a few in the alt-right camp who saw Roosh, of Iranian and Armenian descent, as the enemy — a “self hating Arab,” a “greasy Iranian,” a “degenerate muzzie” (Muslim), or worse — there were others, like Counter-Currents publisher Greg Johnson, who saw Roosh as “an ally … someone with whom we share delimited common interests and with whom we can fight common enemies.”
But no longer. Johnson, after looking at Roosh’s own writings about his past sexual experiences. has concluded that either Roosh’s stories are fiction presented as fact, or he’s a rapist, just as many feminists have been saying for months or even years.
And now Roosh is lashing back with a Return of Kings post titled, no joke, “The Alt Right Is Worse Than Feminism In Attempting To Control Male Sexual Behavior.”
Roosh is apparently stunned to discover that white supremacists don’t like men they deem insufficiently white sleeping with, much less raping, white women. This, to Roosh, is a sign that “a large section” of the otherwise unobjectionable alt-right movement
has degenerated into a collection of fearful beta males who are obsessed with controlling the sexual choices of all men and who they’re allowed to associate with.
Indeed, Roosh reports incredulously, alt-rightists believe that
[i]f you’re a white male, you’re forbidden to sleep with a non-white girl, because that is “race mixing” and goes against their race platform … .
You don’t say. Meanwhile,
[i]f you’re a non-white male, you’re not allowed to sleep with a white girl, because you’re a n****r/kebab/gook, and you must be deported from the country you happen to be a citizen of or outright killed.
What a shock! I mean, it’s not as if these guys go around the internet declaring that interracial relationships are a form of “white genocide” or anything like tha … oh wait, they do.
Roosh, who up until this point seems to have somehow missed the white supremacist elements of white supremacism, thinks the alt-right’s aversion to “race mixing” is something they only came up with in the last couple of months.
The alt right started as a nationalist movement, and that’s what many people believe it to currently be, but we’re only three months away from it being a movement primarily concerned with minimizing the sexual choices of everyone. …
If the bulk of alt right practitioners have their way, white men will not be allowed to date non-white women and non-white men will not be allowed to date white women or even flirt with them. …
Some ideas of the alt right were sound, since they offered a path for us to move forward against the leftist establishment, but that has now been lost with the added dimension of controlling who men can enter relationships with, sexual or not. …
I can no longer support the alt right, since they’re now mostly under the control of the mob.
Adding yet another level of irony to the already heaping mountain of irony here, Roosh complains that the evil alt-right has been seducing vulnerable men with pretty lies:
They will seduce discontented men with white identity and white pride, allowing them entry into the club based primarily on skin color, and then pull the switcheroo and grossly limit their behavior in a way that is worse than feminism.
Yep, that’s’ right. Roosh is so regretful that he ever lay down with the alt-right in the first place that he’s starting to wonder if feminism might serve horny men better than the movement he until recently supported:
The alt right is becoming so authoritarian that a man may actually be happier as a male feminist and sleeping with blue haired freaks with Skrillex haircuts than having all his sexual and friendship choice subject to approval by the alt right mob.
But don’t worry! Roosh is not giving up any of his old bigotries. While complaining about the alt-right’s racism, at least so far as it might interfere with his choice of who to put his penis in, Roosh complains that his new enemies aren’t bigoted enough against gays. After denouncing Johnson of Counter-Currents as an anal-sex having homosexual (I have no idea if that’s true or not), he complains that alt-righters will
go on and on about the Jewish question—and attack you if you don’t—but ignore discussion of the “homosexual question” and its role in wrecking societies.
Roosh’s most surreal accusation? After noticing that Johnson had apparently found some of the most damning quotes from Roosh in a post of mine (!), he asked in a Tweet if Johnson and I were “working together,” an accusation so ridiculous that Roosh might as well have accused me of boiling and eating kittens. (For the record: I’m not working with Johnson or any others of his ilk; indeed, I only learned of Johnson’s denunciation of Roosh from Roosh’s own post on the subject. Also, I have never boiled or eaten even a single kitten.)
But I can’t say I don’t enjoy the spectacle of Roosh and the alt-right trading insults and attacking one another for blindingly obvious things they somehow managed to overlook about one another until now.
In a response to Roosh’s angry post, Johnson has put up another post of his own mocking “cuckold porn-monger Roosh ‘the Doosh’ Valizadeh” for not realizing that a racist movement was full of racists. And then he declared war:
As Andrew Anglin astutely observed, Roosh sells interracial cuckold porn — and tweets about cuckolding white men — to legions of adoring White Nationalist followers. I don’t know what’s worse: the obscenity of this situation or the absurdity. But it needs to end. Now that Roosh has declared “I can no longer support the alt right,” it is time for the Alt Right to return the favor.
I’ll just be sitting here eating popcorn.
Welcome and help yourself to multiple welcome packages if you like! One can never have too many scented fucking candles and misandric hard chairs!
I like to joke around, but it’s obvious that angry internet misogynists and angry internet racists are intertwined. A small, shallow pool of humanity uniting in secret loser forums to harass people who dare disagree with their almighty view of the world. Barring some real hardships in their lives their outlook will never change. I think it’s important as a society to identify them so we can shun them. You want to be an abusive, anti social asshole? Fine, you don’t get to participate in the great debate. That’s why taking away Milo’s blue tick was so genius. This entire group of people needs less validation.
@Weirwoodtreehugger
Thanks! Do these scented fucking candles spread misandry through air particles? I’ve been running low. And the slutty penguins? Do they come in Miss Havisham form? I want my home to be completely MRA proof.
In fact I may have a name change. 😀
What is this obsession with race related cuckolding in situations that do not fit the definition of cuckolding?
“White girl has sex with a non-white guy. OMG she’s cuckolding all the white guys!”
That’s not what cuckolding is at all!
So…what he’s saying is that he doesn’t like them to treat him like he treats women. Got it.
I see, Roosh – it’s okay to police women’s bodies and sexual activity – but not men’s! That’s just going TOO FAR!
Why are they always x amount of time away from something in the land of Would-Be Kings (Who Are Really Doomed To Be Forever Peons)? And why this alarmist tone? And why, Roosh, are you unaware of the irony of you complaining about others “minimizing the sexual choices of everyone” when you fucking do it to women all the fucking time?
I mean, dragging women into bars and trying to get them drunk so they’ll be easier to rape isn’t exactly maximizing their sexual right to choose, is it now?
@Dark Statistic
What about AVFM vs RoK?
And it’s like ol’ Rooshie is so close to self-awareness. So, so close…
When the people Doosh generally associates with/attempts to associate with turn out to be horrible human beings even by his own (very low) standards of what it means to be a horrible human being, that should really tell him something.
Will Roosh ever learn that even his own horrible ways and the horrible people he tries to get all buddy-buddy with don’t even benefit him?!? Nope. Still pulling those blinders over his eyes and sticking his fingers in his ears going, “la la la la la!”
Wow, I knew this was coming eventually but is sure is amusing to see happen.
One of the funniest bits in Roosh’s post, which alas I couldn’t really work into my post, was his denunciation of Dean Esmay as the most “feminine” AVFM writer.
It’s like they’re a bunch of Nazis or something
Illinois Nazis. I hate Illinois Nazis.
@Mmm pie
You appear to be under the mistaken impression that the alt-right feels it is important to know what a word means before they use it.
Wait, you mean to tell me that the same people who swear by segregating the races and believe that all nonwhites are rapists of white women, don’t like someone who isn’t Whitey McWhiterson telling them how he angles to rape white women even when he tells them how much he hates Jews and gays?
INCONCEIVABLE!
Is this actually true? I’m honestly surprised if it is. Historical racism in the US has only ever been concerned with the sexual behavior of white women. There was never social sanction on white men sleeping with whomever. Sure, there was pressure for white men to marry white women and beget white children, but nobody cared if a white man was raping a black woman on the side. I’m actually not sure how to feel if that has changed.
@David
Wha?
I’m wondering how he defines “feminine.”
We really should make sure we do not ban freedom of speech. Where else would you get such a rich seam of material? Pass the popcorn . . .
Man lies down with dogs, surprised to get up with fleas.
Please accept this gold-plated Internet. And a box of kittens.
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PoM – it’s simple biology. A white man who has sex with (or at, or to) a WoC doesn’t get his precious genetic array tainted. A white woman, however, is forever contaminated by the introduction of Enriching Vibrancy, and can never birth true Overmen.
The falling out between Roosh and Racist reminds me of a Batman/Captain America crossover set in WWII. The Red Skull and the Joker have teamed up until Joker realizes that Red Skull is an *actual Nazi*. As he says, “I may be a criminal lunatic, but I’m an AMERICAN criminal lunatic!” Things go downhill from there.
@Robert – I’ve read that crossover! I’ll never forget the look on Joker’s face when he’s being all patriotic. It’s right up there with Etrigan in the Haunted Tank declaring that he now fights for Uncle Sam.
Regarding a more recent thread, is the whole “women have sex with their dogs” foolishness even more heinous to white supremacists if the dog is black?
@ vikki p
@ Alan – Ha!
(Not a Brit, but my BFF is Welsh.)
Bina,
I see you a box of kittens and raise you a barrel of kittens
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The fact that Roosh publishes his battle tactics in plain view should tip you off as to why he’s an idiot. The fact he wants to ingratiate himself with people that hate him in order to (and this is so obvious) sell them his books should as well.