It’s tough to be a Red Piller, apparently. I mean, once a man has mastered the fine art of Red Pillery, he quickly becomes so irresistable to the HB7’s through HB9’s of the world that he needs advice on which of these lovely ladies deserve to be treated to Long Term Relationships (LTR’s) and which deserve only to be plated.
Happily, the good fellows on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit have made this tedious sorting procedure much easier and more scientific, providing numerous examples of “red flags” that men should watch out for in the ladies they’re dating.
Some of their advice is fairly standard relationship advice: avoid manipulative or abusive women, as manipulation and abuse are only ok when Red Pill dudes do them. Other “red flags” are standard Red Pill bugbears like tattoos (never ok for women); dyed hair (it’s only ok to dye hair if you’re, say, a well-known Red Piller with scary grey hairs sprouting in your beard); antidepressants (getting treatment for depression is apparently a terrible thing); and of course getting fat.
But. as a public service, I thought I would share some of the more, well, unique “red flags” that should instantly disqualify women as LTR material. If nothing else, this should be a useful list for any woman who would like to know some simple things they can do to repel Red Pill dudes.
So here, in the words of assorted Red Pillers, are the Top 18 Often Overlooked Red Pill Red Flags for men seeking long-term relationships. If any of the following are true, your potential special lady is actually a filthy whore only good for sex.
1) She uses birth control
2) She has a “squeaky 5 year old voice”
3) She went to law school
4) She has “many bins of chopped carrots in fridge”
5) She doesn’t wear dresses “without being commanded to”
6) She owns a dog
10) She’s two years older than you
11) She “wants to wear [a] slutty bikini to music festival”
15) She is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse
17) She previously worked at a flight attendant
18) She “frequently [goes] to the hospital and has family with a history of health issues”
So there you are!
There is, of course. a much shorter Red Pill Red Flag list for women considering a long-term relationship with a guy. There is only one item on this list.
- He gets dating advice from the Red Pill subreddit (or any other Red Pill site)
In a future post I will look in more detail at several of these Red Pill Red Flags.
Sources: The first six in the list come from Red Piller abdada, a frequent maker of red flag lists, in comments here , here, and here, The rest are linked directly to their sources on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit.
I’m glad you’re doing better, Weirwood.
The horse thing lead to a link with an equally ridiculous ‘red flag’:
“–Has made it to age 30 without having been married (pretty common)”
Again, who the hell is supposed to meet all these ridiculous and often contradictory requirements?
Then there’s this gem explaining why Redpillians shouldn’t date women over 30 who haven’t been married:
“prime age” and “child” should not overlap.
IMO the creepiest ‘philosophy’ on the Red Pill is the idea that women ‘should be treated like children’. Or sexist remarks that women ‘act like children’. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the Red Pillers are actual pedophiles.
I’ll never understand how detachable penises got so popular.
Citation needed.
This is pretty much the opposite of the “alpha” behavior touted by TeRPs (cheat on her, degrade her, make her so afraid to lose you she’ll do anything to keep you, etc.) Usually love, loyalty, and gratitude are contemptuously ascribed to “betas”.
Except when it’s convenient to make their point, of course. Then suddenly alphas are stolid, noble family men, not clubbing playboy gadabouts.
@dlouwe
They’re starting to sound like Russell’s paradox. Is the set of all sets that exclude undateable traits itself undateable?
@WWTH – hugs, and I’m glad to hear things have gotten better.
I learned some amazing things from the football thread.
–Magnesium supplements relieve anxiety in as little as 1 hour
–Half of all college football players play in the NFL
–A woman with no red flags is a unicorn. Being a unicorn is a red flag
–Fucking football players is pretty much the same as helping murderers escape federal prison
–Women who lie about their sexual history have no integrity and will cheat on you; women who are honest about their sexual history have no shame, and will cheat on you
–A woman who has fucked several athletes 1 at a time has probably also fucked several athletes at once
–A woman who hopes her man has a consensual cuckold fetish will communicate this by hiding her sexual history and pretending she’s never had casual sex.
By contrast, the other sex history thread raised more questions than answers. Consider this riddle:
–It is well known that a woman who says she’s had X partners has actually had 3X.
–A woman tells her boyfriend she has had 6 partners. He confronts her with evidence this is untrue. She admits that she lied and tells him she has had 10 partners,
–Has this woman had 18 partners, or 30?
Moses Maimonides might be needed on this one.
Until a man has directly observed evidence of how many partners she’s had, she exists in a superposition of having had both 18 and 30 partners. This problem is more generally known as “Schrödinger’s Hypergamous Lying Cheating Fat Ugly Wait What Were We Talking About”
@Orion
I think this one is actually true. Living, human women would all have at least on red flag for these guys, so if they’re a unicorn they’re probably sent from Skynet.
“I’ll never understand how detachable penises got so popular.”
@Banned
Damn you. Now I have King Missile looping in my head. 🙂
Thanks for the hugs, all.
And I obviously meant snack food. Damn autocorrect!
Although the pup loves carrots and I always share with her. I’m pleased that I’m committing double misandry by eating carrots and spending time with a dog at the same time.
Now why is it exactly that men are in their prime between 30 and 40? That’s the decade of life in which the quality of sperm starts to diminish. After 40 the erectile dysfunction risk goes up. I’m of not saying men over 30 are undatable. As a 35 year old the 30-40 range would be preferable to me. But if we’re viewing men is an SMV way, a twenty something man will have better sperms and a fitter, slimmer body. It sounds like they’re engaging in wishful thinking here. They’re telling themselves that when they’re 40, the 21 year old women will think they’re a catch when they sidle up to them at the club. Nope. Sorry boys. You’re headed for a pathetic bitter Roosh future.
‘I … honestly have no idea on this one. She will be able to see better in the dark?’
Literal LOL.
I’m reminded of an old Ann Landers column that I cut out of the paper (and probably still have somewhere)–a guy wrote in saying something like ‘I’ve been dating this girl, and we’re totally in love, and have wonderful times together, and she’s perfect in every way…except…she has this cat. She’s always talking to the cat, and petting the cat, and letting the cat sit on her lap, it’s disgusting. I’m thinking of just telling her look, it’s the cat or me–what do you think?’ The answer was something like, ‘well…..the cat doesn’t judge her, the cat doesn’t criticise her, the cat doesn’t insist on monopolising her attention, the cat doesn’t give her ultimatums…I won’t tell you not to do it, I will just suggest to you that you may be unpleasantly surprised by the answer.’
Also just got back from seeing Pride and Prejudice and Zombies. Recommended.
Ann Landers was a class act. Someone wrote to her saying that a bunch of gay people were moving into the area and gaying up the place. He asked her how he could improve the neighborhood; she said “you could move.”
@littleknown: sexy times are a bit complicated with pets. My cats think “oh, the humans are awake, time to get cuddles” and brush by, which is not my kink.
An ex’s dog wanted to play with us. Wet dog nose is even less my kink.
‘He asked her how he could improve the neighborhood; she said “you could move.”’
OK that’s fucking brilliant. Good for her.
They don’t like it when we own cats either, so basically we can’t ever date an MRA if we own any kind of animal, ever. Damn!
Hmm, I wonder if the humane society is still open tonight…
So I started going through the list to see how desirable I might be to these terpers, and the red flags seemed to outweigh the green flags. Sure, I voluntarily wear very feminine clothes (I haven’t worn pants/trews out of the house in years) and I have long hair. Tick! But then my dresses and skirts are to the larger end of the sizing scale, and my long hair is dyed bright pink. Cross! I don’t have buckets of carrots in my fridge or a squeaky voice. Tick! But I do have gay friends, and I’m surprisingly social for a natural introvert. Cross! And they don’t mention rat ownership, but I suspect that would fall on the Cross side as well.
I was pondering where this left me, when I realised that at 46 years of age, I’m at best invisible to these guys, if not dead. Yay!
@numerobis: One of my cats seemed to get quite disturbed by sex, and had the habit of sneaking up and biting one of my toes if she was in the room and things went on too long for her liking.
That said, we usually just closed the bedroom door. Although if you’re living in a studio where that’s not possible, I can see how it could be an issue.
But I could never give up my animals because they sometimes interrupt or postpone sexytime.
Apparently this guy’s never owned a horse.
Ah, but that “voice like a five year old” (hopefully) disqualifies five year olds, at least!
Well, years of depression (or whatever this is, I’ve never had the money to go get diagnosed unfortunately) leave me with little options. It’s really effected my life in a lot of not-fun ways, and the moment I can, I would like to see what it’d be like to feel like I used to when I was a kid and life was worth living and I didn’t have sobbing mental breakdowns over broken dishes and go weeks without doing anything because I just can’t muster the energy or the fucks to give.
I just want to feel that again. I can’t remember what it felt like.
It’s always nice when the trash quarantines itself.
This wasn’t an Ann Landers column, but it’s similar: I read this one where these person was writing to complain to the column writer lady that the poor kids were coming to their (rich, doctor-laden) street for Halloween to get candy and they didn’t think it was fair, and she straight up told them (I’m paraphrasing here) “Look, they’re poor and don’t get to come over here often and see nice houses. Buy an extra bag of candy and don’t be such a stingy git for one night and let the kids have one night of fun”.
I just love these column ladies who aren’t afraid of being blunt. They’re the best.
I think we can now conclude that the TRP idea of an ideal woman is a 5 year old girl with a 12 year old girl’s voice.
As shallow and materialistic as red pillers are you’d think a woman wealthy enough for a pet horse would be appealing. Then again, that would probably threaten their fragile masculinity.
Another thing that dogs and horses have in common: If someone is clearly abusing their owner then they’re likely to turn hostile to the abuser. If someone outright physically attacks their owner, then they may rush to defend them. (In modern times, this is less likely for a horse because their owner usually doesn’t have the level of close personal contact with them that a dog does, but it’s still been known to happen.)
Note that this can make practicing S&M or roleplaying a rape scene in the same house as a dog problematic.
@WWTH
Add to that a dose of ‘this terrible woman dares give her attention towards something that isn’t my penis!’
I wouldn’t be surprised if “she has hobbies that don’t involve cooking for me” is a red flag to them. It’s amazing how a woman who has interests and passions is somehow able to make them feel helpless and insecure.
@Snowberry
Funny you should mention that. The link to ‘her name is tiffany’ (which also serves as the explanation for why dogs are a red flag), was initiated by a guy who basically felt emasculated by his girlfriend’s dog. I am not even kidding:
AMOG = Alpha Male Other Guy. Easily one of the stupidest PUA anacronyms ever invented, basically refers to ‘out-alpha-ing’ the other dude.
I think my favorite part is how he feels the need to brag about how the dog totally humped his leg then adds ‘if that matters’. Bruh, of course it matters. After all, you felt it was important to point it out; no need to get all tsundere about it.
@Snowberry
Hmm….My dog doesn’t seem concerned when I’m beating the s/o (S&M scene – totally consensual) at all. But then she is *my* dog, who has literally been my shield with her 14lb body in the past, refusing to move until she decided that the danger had passed.
She’s got such soft silky ears, that smell of puppy stink, and it’s delicious. *inhales the dog ears, deeply*
Errrr….where was I going on this….never mind, more admiring of soft silky dog ears awaits.
Moocow,
AMOG often means “Alpha Male Of the Group,” IIRC. You want to be the AMOG.
Also I’m pretty sure the leg humping is mentioned as further evidence that the actual dog is the alpha dog.
I thought cats were the evil animal supporters of females? I thought I was the “cool chick” because I prefer dogs? Once again I have found a lovely silver lining to all my health issues.
I wonder if being politically active could be #19? I had a ‘friend’ once tell me I needed to stop protesting political causes so passionately if I was ever going to get a guy(being bi wasn’t on their radar). I replied I would rather be alone with only friends than change who I was on a deep level to get a mate. I was starred at with horror. Meanwhile I met a lot of awesome people fighting for marriage equality. And both parents bragged on FB.