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Horses, Carrots, Hospital Visits and 15 Other Often Overlooked Red Pill Red Flags

Face it, dudes! There's no way you can compete with this.
Face it, dudes! There’s no way you can compete with this.

It’s tough to be a Red Piller, apparently. I mean, once a man has mastered the fine art of Red Pillery, he quickly becomes so irresistable to the HB7’s through HB9’s of the world that he needs advice on which of these lovely ladies deserve to be treated to Long Term Relationships (LTR’s) and which deserve only to be plated.

Happily, the good fellows on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit have made this tedious sorting procedure much easier and more scientific, providing numerous examples of “red flags” that men should watch out for in the ladies they’re dating.

Some of their advice is fairly standard relationship advice: avoid manipulative or abusive women, as manipulation and abuse are only ok when Red Pill dudes do them. Other “red flags” are standard Red Pill bugbears like tattoos (never ok for women); dyed hair (it’s only ok to dye hair if you’re, say, a well-known Red Piller with scary grey hairs sprouting in your beard); antidepressants (getting treatment for depression is apparently a terrible thing); and of course getting fat.

But. as a public service, I thought I would share some of the more, well, unique “red flags” that should instantly disqualify women as LTR material. If nothing else, this should be a useful list for any woman who would like to know some simple things they can do to repel Red Pill dudes.

So here, in the words of assorted Red Pillers, are the Top 18 Often Overlooked Red Pill Red Flags for men seeking long-term relationships. If any of the following are true, your potential special lady is actually a filthy whore only good for sex.

1) She uses birth control

2) She has a “squeaky 5 year old voice”

3) She went to law school

4) She has “many bins of chopped carrots in fridge”

5) She doesn’t wear dresses “without being commanded to”

6) She owns a dog

7) She owns a horse

8) She’s named Tiffany

9) Her mom is fat

10) She’s two years older than you

11) She “wants to wear [a] slutty bikini to music festival”

12) She had sex with more dudes before you than she told you she did, which you discovered by going through old messages on her phone without her permission

13) She had sex with a number of football players during her freshman year in college, which you discovered by going through her old Facebook posts without her permission, and also the football players were black dudes

14) She has gay friends, because they’ll tell her “you go girl” if she has sex with a cute guy in a bathroom

15) She is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse

16) She’s “more social than you. Because sluts and whores crave attention above all, they tend to be heavily involved in social events, parties, get togethers and just overall more outgoing than you.”

17) She previously worked at a flight attendant

18) She “frequently [goes] to the hospital and has family with a history of health issues”

So there you are!

There is, of course. a much shorter Red Pill Red Flag list for women considering a long-term relationship with a guy. There is only one item on this list.

  1. He gets dating advice from the Red Pill subreddit (or any other Red Pill site)

In a future post I will look in more detail at several of these Red Pill Red Flags.

Sources: The first six in the list come from Red Piller abdada, a frequent maker of red flag lists, in comments here here, and here, The rest are linked directly to their sources on the Ask The Red Pill subreddit.

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Moocow
4 years ago

@Orion

Whoops, you’re right. That’s what I get for not double-checking stupid PUA terminology. I must have confused it with AMOG ‘destroyers’, or ‘the techniques used to usurp the alpha of the group’.

I spend some time looking for whatever stupid acronym refers to what I thought AMOG refers to but I gave up after this point because ew:

http://www.seductionbase.com/seduction/cat/In_the_Middle/AMOG/268.html

AMOG: How do you guys know eachother?
PUA: Her? I fucked her.
(Girl will go “aaaaaaaaah… hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she’ll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you…).

AMOG: Hey, this is a nice girl.
PUA: Her.. she’s a slut..
(Again, girl will start going “nooooo!” while giggling her ass off and crawling on you.. this is very deflating to the guy trying to cut in)

AMOG: Hey girls whats up (or whatever)
PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go “no no no… we love you PUA.. noooooo” and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)

Yeah, cause women totally love some random dudes saying “oh I’ve fucked her” or calling her a slut. Totally not creepy at all.

Rosie*sings*
Rosie*sings*
4 years ago

So glad that my CSA protects me from these superior specimens of magnamity. It had to be good for something!

Orion
Orion
4 years ago

PUA: Hey dude dude (putting hands up like you give up).. I will pay you a HUNDRED dollars right now, to take these girls away from me.
(Girls will go “no no no… we love you PUA.. noooooo” and giggle and crawl on you.. Again, immediately deflating to the guy)

It’s not that can’t imagine this ever happening, so much as I can’t imagine a man who could make that work spending time reading seductionbase.com

EDIT: CSA? Is that the thing where they send you a bag of vegetables every week?

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

@Orion

Childhood sexual abuse.

katz
4 years ago

Hmm….My dog doesn’t seem concerned when I’m beating the s/o (S&M scene – totally consensual) at all.

I assume most dogs can read emotions well enough to tell the difference between humans hitting each other and having a grand old time and humans hitting each other because they’re angry and fighting.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

As Oliver Wendell Holmes once said “Even a dog can tell between a kick and a stumble”

Dogs are excellent at reading emotion. I have the least aggressive dog in the world but she loves play fighting; and she can tell when humans are play fighting too.

Snowberry
Snowberry
4 years ago

While I don’t have any personal experience, I’ve seen people on BDSM message boards who said that their dog has become hostile to their boyfriend/girlfriend/lover upon hearing them (referring to the owner) cry or scream or get hit behind closed doors. Obviously it varies depending on the dog’s personality, but when they don’t even know what’s going on… which is why I said “sometimes problematic”.

Orion
Orion
4 years ago

Rosie, SFHC,

Sorry, now I feel bad about making jokes. I thought we were still riffing on the carrots thing.

BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
BoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoinkBoink
4 years ago

Tiffany? What the hell? Do they just randomly pull that name from their asshat?

Mortarius
Mortarius
4 years ago

@GeekyGirlForever: Politically active would be more than just a red flag for these troglodytes, it’d be a screaming klaxon!

Definitely the most assured way to keep these idiots from hitting on you.

That said though your friend is pretty bloody ignorant tho, to say that no guys would agree with your politics as a common interest or be attracted to someone who is passionate about a cause is ludicrous. I can think of at least 2 people who would leave their partners if they gave up their passionate advocacy!

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

Molly’s a little over-protective of me when anyone seems to be ‘sneaking up’ while my back is turned, doesn’t follow procedure for being within 5 feet of me, and strangers who haven’t endured the requisite circle-sniffx4. But those soulful expresso colored eyes and those soft silky puppy stinky ears….ahh…I can forgive her of all things.

My cat was a total pervert, not only did she ‘like to watch’ the sexytimes but she insisted on accompanying anyone to the bathroom so she could hang out and watch them pee. Sometimes she’d climb into ones pants like they were a damn hammock.

Bina
4 years ago

Just went to visit the Sealion Club. The first messages on the main page were “I’ll fuck your kids” and some CG porn. I don’t know what I expected.

Well, at least they admit that they’re sealions. That’s the first step to recovery. Unfortunately, if the AA model is anything to go by, they’ve got at least 11 more ahead of them.

And that ooky opening message doesn’t bode well, either.

PS: King Missile! I like!

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

msexceptiontotherule:

Cats nesting in pants is surprisingly common. Imgur is actually full of pictures of cats doing that.

My theory is that cats want to protect their staff while they are having a Vulnerable Moment on that cold seat.

Example:

http://i.imgur.com/5MIEDid.jpg

Sofia van der Linde
Sofia van der Linde
4 years ago

The Don’t Date Sexual Violence Survivors command has been part of PUA manuals published in the past two decades. Ron Louis and David Copeland included it in How to Succeed with Women.

Anti socialite
Anti socialite
4 years ago

I’m thoroughly entertained by the fact that a group of nasty men that women won’t have anything to do with took the time to make a list of requirements that women need to jump through hoops to meet in order to date men they don’t want.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
4 years ago

(Girl will go “aaaaaaaaah… hahahahah, I did NOT!!! But she’ll hit you and be giggling and start crawling all over you…).

Why is their invented dialogue always so cringey?

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

I’ll bet not one of these guys ever broke up with a woman for any of these things.

But they used their complaints as psychic weapons to batter the women:

Ew! Look at all these carrots!

I hate your dog!

Are all flight attendants slutty?

They did this to guilt trip her and keep her off-balance. If she gave up her carrots (or her dog or her job!), he would consider that a victory.

Then he would up the ante.

It never ends well.

For these guys, it sounds as though the women broke up with them. I hope so.

I also hope that all the women who have these habits or animals or jobs, etc.–which is the female population of planet Earth–reject them. Now. Always.

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

@Sofia van der Linde

The Don’t Date Sexual Violence Survivors command has been part of PUA manuals published in the past two decades. Ron Louis and David Copeland included it in How to Succeed with Women.

Sure.

‘Cause he’d like to be the first.

Saphira
Saphira
4 years ago

Nice list there, boys. Does it make you feel important? I suppose now it gives you the excuse that you can’t find a good woman to date rather than facing the truth that you’re facing a dwindling number of women who actually want to have a thing to do with you.

guest
guest
4 years ago

@PI–that was Miss Manners! I remember that one. She has a few snappy answers to questions along the lines of ‘what if other people do harmless/trivial things that don’t affect me that I don’t like?’

Kat
Kat
4 years ago

Her new dog went into protective mode and nipped me on the leg. My first inclination was to teach him a lesson with my belt.

Dude, whoever you are, you need to stop everything and reexamine your life.

PS: Did you know that cruelty to animals is illegal?

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

GrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrr….being mean to animals would result in the person doing so getting left somewhere while they were 100% not prepared for the environment/weather or have the means for getting rescued within easy access…if their punishment was left up to me.

Maybe there was a reason for her new dog to go into protective mode, BRO.

Dr. James Dobson (I think it was him) – Christian family and child raising ‘expert’ shouldn’t be allowed anywhere near kids or dogs based on the things he believes to work in raising children properly (and dachshunds – he threw what amounts to a temper fit over the dog not doing what he wanted and describes the dog like the poor thing was some evil human mastermind that he had a battle of wills to win against!) Not once did he consider that his tactics were the problem or that kicking/etc a dog might 1.) be monstrous animal cruelty and 2.) unlikely to convince the dog to do a damn thing he wanted it to.

Someone should have tied Dobson to a tree way out in wild North, put a bunch of food around him so the bears can find him. Bonus points if they made sure he wasn’t dressed for the weather. Damned jerkfacegrumblegrumbleassholegrumble.

@Skiriki

Hahahaha well that explains the cats hanging out in pants. While their person is wearing them.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
4 years ago

Dogs are extremely empathic animals: they tend to reflect the mood of their owner when reacting to people. The dog of a racist will bark at black people because they sense their owner’s hostility, even if the owner says nothing openly. It’s a well documented phenomenon.

This being the case, if women’s dogs are always attacking him, maybe it’s because he’s always scaring those women.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

There’s a quote somewhere along the lines of “I might not date a man who doesn’t like dogs, I definitely won’t date a man that dogs don’t like”.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

msexceptiontotherule: Exactly — cats can be very protective, and this is how they reward their personal staff, by protecting them fiercely when they are doing their bizniz. 😉

(On a slightly more serious note, cats have protected their owners from burglars, rapists and fire, sometimes to the point of death. As it turns out, stereotypes about animals are stereotypes, and all critters should be judged on individual basis. All hail noble kittehs.)

Alan Robertshaw:
On a similar basis, I give hairy eyeball to people who say they hate cats because they can’t be trained or trusted or are stupid or [insert whatever stereotype that usually gets applied to women]. It is usually a very bad sign.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
4 years ago

On a slightly more serious note, cats have protected their owners from burglars, rapists and fire, sometimes to the point of death.

Also, there’s the video that did the rounds a couple years ago of the cat who saved her four-year-old owner from an attacking dog.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
4 years ago

@ skiriki

That’s an interesting hypothesis. Can you take anything from a guy’s attitude to cats and extrapolate to women? You should call it the “cat whistle” theory.

Personally I’m wary of anyone who claims not to like animals generally. If they say that, I assume they’re also bed wetting arsonists and put them on my personal watch list.

Moggie
Moggie
4 years ago

SFHC:

Also, there’s the video that did the rounds a couple years ago of the cat who saved her four-year-old owner from an attacking dog.

I saw that video at the time, but for some reason I didn’t spot until now that she actually turns sideways and body-slams the dog. I’m even more impressed now.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
4 years ago

RE: Medication for depression.

@Ohlmann

I genuinely believe you had a bad experience with medication. This is not uncommon, as finding the right kind for any individual is a matter of trial and sometimes error. You should always talk to your doctor about a bad reaction and if they won’t listen, find a doctor who will. That is of course if you have the mental strenght to do so in the middle of battling issues. It’s not always possible if a person has become paralysed with depression or other mental health issues – in fact it can become downright impossible.

That said, you shouldn’t warn people off medication based on your own bad reaction to them. This is all very, very individual. I’ll elaborate in my following paragraph.

@PI

I strongly encourage you to seek help. While what I said above is true about the error with meds, I myself know people who have gotten help from them. One of my best friends was at a point where she was unable to go to school, but luckily her dad is a psychiatrist and recognised something was going wrong with her. She found the right kind of medication and she is still doing great with its help. She’s got two uni degrees, a job abroad and a great relationship and she said to me she knows she couldn’t have felt normal enough to achieve these if she didn’t have her medication (and occasional therapy). Her diagnosis is BPD (Borderline Personality Disorder).

And now my own story with medication.
In my teens my therapist diagnosed me with severe depression. I was very scared of meds (my mother was an abuser of medication) and I didn’t feel like back then there was enough information available for me to take them. I also had severe lack of trust towards doctors, something I found out was common for people with my later diagnosis Bi-polar disorder.

For years I let things just go on like that, I quit therapy and decided I can go forward even if every day felt like walking against a blizzard. Only replace snow with excrement. Getting out of bed I had the mental image of a baby trying to bench 100kg. Eventually it was so bad that I had a full-blown panic attack at a supermarket. I thought it was a heart attack or stroke or my organs giving up or something. Diagnosis unsure but death imminent.
Instead of asking for help or calling an ambulance I stumbled out of the shop and managed not to faint on my walk home.

A week (and SO MUCH GOOGLING) later I realised I might have to get out of the house at some point so I phoned a doctor. Panic disorder was my diagnosis and I was prescribed two meds: one long term one and one sedative for the attacks. Both were a SAVING GRACE. The long-term medication eventually helped me feel better and the recent upping of the dosage has actually made me feel almost normal. I can’t even believe it. I haven’t felt like myself my whole adult life and I’m starting to be *me* again.

Medication is not always a long-term solution and my doctor agrees with me that one day, when my life is in balance, we can see how my own wings fly and cut the dosage gradually until I’m free from chemical help.

(ETA: I have been on medication for a year and a half, it may take some time until you feel better.)

I am not saying things will absolutely be magically better, but there is always the chance and help IS available. I really hope you have the opportunity and strenght to find whatever’s best for you.

Hugs if you want them!
(Spelled that as ‘jugs’. Twice. I’ve never felt Wednsedays.)

guy
guy
4 years ago

I’ve had a very good experience with antidepressents, so I’m not happy with people generically warning against using them. If they aren’t necessary, great, but sometimes they are.

That said, they can have severe and unpredictable side effects, and people need to be monitored closely when starting them. There’s a lot of different ones and they have different effects, so having problems with one doesn’t mean you’ll have any trouble with another, but the only way to find out is trial and error.

Freemage
Freemage
4 years ago

Moocow
February 16, 2016 at 12:47 pm

Then there’s this gem explaining why Redpillians shouldn’t date women over 30 who haven’t been married:

A female is in their prime ages 16 to 26 while a male is in their prime 30 to 40. Why would men give their prime the gold of their years to females past their prime. Females have to choose either cock carosel during their prime waste it living selfishly in the moment wasting their prime years on Chad Thundercock then settle for unattractive desperate beta post wall OR lock down the high number of natural alphas who are entirely willing to settle down then when she is post wall and the alpha is peaking the alpha will be a lot kinder to her and stick with her from love loyalty and gratitude than any female would display if roles were reversed.

“prime age” and “child” should not overlap.

IMO the creepiest ‘philosophy’ on the Red Pill is the idea that women ‘should be treated like children’. Or sexist remarks that women ‘act like children’. It wouldn’t surprise me if some of the Red Pillers are actual pedophiles.

I maintain that they’re literally worse than pedophiles. It has nothing to do with a hardwired sexual attraction (the strict definition of pedophile–a broken sexuality that targets prepubescent children); it has everything to do with their obsessive desire for control.

What these guys want is physical maturity but emotional and psychological naivete. They want someone they believe will be more vulnerability to manipulation and domination. They are nothing but social predators.

(Of course, it doesn’t hurt that a woman that much younger than they could also be more easily placed into a situation of financial dependence. Any lever is considered acceptable to this mindset.)

GardenGallivant
GardenGallivant
4 years ago

I finally see another reason for there being fewer men coming into equitation as a sport than women. Riding and working at several different stables it became obvious to me there were few men riding in hunt seat, dressage, three day eventing or even open jumping despite all the young datable women. We talked about it and thought it likely men didn’t like that horses required a great deal of empathy and time to learn compared to motorized equipment, despite the thrill riding offered.

Then there was the factor that muscle counts for less. It is not possible to use simple strength to get an animal 10x your size to cooperate willingly. This is why, in this sport, men & women compete together with the horse as the equalizer. It is very likely a man would regularly lose to a woman in competition.

Horses, like dogs & cats, can read expressions and body language so an angry man will trigger a fear reaction or aggressive opposition. This type of person will never do well or even learn how to ride since a cooperative horse is the best instructor. Reading what these men say their negative emotions would be a huge handicap.

Research has shown horses can determine mood, not just across species, but from a photograph of an unknown persons face smiling with bared teeth or frowning with bared teeth. like dogs they use their left eye, right brain, to read this information.

This makes me wonder if this influenced trainers to make the horses left the side , or near side, the side we mount and handle horses from more than how humans and horses tend to be right handed. I used to think we handled them from our dominant side to their less dominant side but now I think we handle them from the side that reassures them we are friendly. Something one of these terpenes couldn’t do.
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2016/feb/10/horses-can-recognise-human-emotion-new-study-shows
I have mentally dubbed the red pillers terpenes 1) for their interest in their penes and 2) because they emit hate like an offensive odor.
Plants emit compounds as olfactory signals to chemosensing organisms. Some of these volatile compounds are terpenes that signal herbivory damage to other plants & to predatory insects. I like to think these terpene men emitting their writing as warning signals of potential damage.

Fruitloopsie
Fruitloopsie
4 years ago

“Ugh, women are so shallow, wanting tall guys and them to have big d***s.”

Later

“Hey everyone! Check out my very long and very specific list to look for in a woman!”

Tiffany
May Goddess Katie bless you.

And love to all who had to deal with abusive a-holes like these.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

GardenGallivant:
The lack of men is puzzlesome, since for a long time horses were the manliest dudebro thing around, and still are in many non-western countries.

Alan Robertshaw:

That’s an interesting hypothesis. Can you take anything from a guy’s attitude to cats and extrapolate to women? You should call it the “cat whistle” theory.

The surrounding western culture around us seems to link cats and women together, just as much as it does dogs and men (hence why these douchebros would be intimidated by a woman owning a dog); someone I knew told me that as a kid (and she’s not a young one, this goes back to 1960s) she thought that cats and dogs were females and males of the same species, because of the way cats were associated with girls and dogs with boys. I don’t think she’s the only one doing this association — just think of the word “pussy”!

Or that for male cats the word is “tom” and for female dogs “bitch”. Quick — what’s the casual-everyday-use word for female cat or male dog?

Answer: cat and dog.

Why do we differentiate them like that? (“Queen” for a female cat is absolutely not that casual, not like “tomcat” is for a male cat.)

Why women get told not to be “like a (female, default) cat in heat”, whereas it is okay for men to go “tomcatting around”?

So if you meet an absolute-cat-hater-absolute-dog-praiser in western culture, and you’re presenting as female, there’s always a chance that the person doing hating/praising has absorbed all kinds of bad crap about women and men as well.

I’m sticking “western” to this, because that’s what it is — attitudes elsewhere may vary. (Consider ritually pure cats vs ritually impure dogs in Islamic countries; I think it would be interesting to find out animal-based insults — especially gendered versions — all around the world and make some comparisons.)

Me? Cats > dogs. I don’t hate dogs, but I don’t speak their dog-language too well, which is a problem when it comes to getting along. I get along with kitties better, even if I’ve been exposed to both animal types since childhood.

Personally I’m wary of anyone who claims not to like animals generally. If they say that, I assume they’re also bed wetting arsonists and put them on my personal watch list.

Yes, this is the biggest warning sign of them all.

If someone says “I don’t like Animal X, because I’m allergic to it”, okay, I get it. If someone says “Animal X gives me creeps” or “I’m phobic of Animal X”, well, okay, at least they are saying the problem is theirs. But if someone starts assigning all kinds of malignant attributes to an animal on universal basis as if it is a truth written in stone with spear-depth fiery letters, it is time to back away a notch. And outright hatred of anything that moves? Teleport away, immediately. If that’s not an option, disengage in as safe manner as possible… just don’t run right away.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

Skiriki: one of my cats tried to warn me off of the new girlfriend by occasionally sitting next to me on the couch, meowing, then walking off leaving behind a shiny new turd.

Eventually she got over it. Now in the morning the same cat is the one who can’t decide whether to be in my lap or my girlfriend’s.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

numerobis:
Well, there is that, and then there’s “puff up the fur, raise the back, and hiss” sort of warning. 😀

Everything depends on how well you know your cat; there’s “I’m displeased that the attention is not on me and you’re lavishing it on another person” dislike, and then there’s “Oh shit, oh SHIT, OH SHIT GET AWAY FROM THIS” dislike.

Crap on a couch is pretty much the former.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

I definitely side-eye guys who hate cats. Preferring and identifying with dogs more is no problem, but loathing cats is an issue. These guys are usually sexist. And they’re quite often control freaks. A lot of why they hate cats is because they control them.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

“animal-based insults — especially gendered versions” — French allows for “chien” (dog) to be negative, though it usually isn’t (much the same as English). “Chienne” is not as common as its counterpart bitch but means the same, with the same connotations. Its rarity makes it perhaps more insulting.

There’s also “canaille” which has lost its original meaning of a pack of dogs and is now just a slur: a dirty commoner in olden days, now by extension, anybody you don’t like.

No such for cats (“chat”). The dirty-minded will use any furry thing to wink-wink-nudge-nudge mean vagina (via pubic hair) but I’m not coming up with a tight association anywhere.

“Poule mouillée” is a wet chicken — a coward.

“Oh la vache” (oh the cow) is not exactly an insult but an exasperation.

Skiriki
Skiriki
4 years ago

weirwoodtreehugger: Exactly, control is the issue. Especially when they see control in terms of physical power or power use over them. Douchebros are terrified of independence.

And the funny thing is? You can totally “control” and train your cat. You just gotta respect and bond with the cat first. Both things that douchebros don’t seem to get: they’re not entitled to immediate, unconditional love-love-love they (mistakenly) attribute to dogs.

I abso-fuckin-lutely guarantee that if you raise your kitties by hand, treat them as individuals they are, work with their strengths and weaknesses, you will have a loyal cat for life, who expresses their love for you in a cat-way.

The bonding process is somewhat different between dogs and cats, because hell, they are different species with different needs and socialization and hunting modes.

weirwoodtreehugger
4 years ago

Cats will respect you and bond with you and even have loyalty, but you have to earn it. They love you because they choose to. Unlike with dogs, you can’t train them to respect you. Misogynists hate that because they think they should be entitled to loyalty from a pet. They don’t see it as a two way relationship. Which is of course the same way they see relationships with women.

numerobis
numerobis
4 years ago

Skiriki: “puff up the fur, raise the back, and hiss”

True. Mine have never done that to people (or dogs), just to other cats.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
4 years ago

Many moons ago the girlfriend of a friend was promptly removed from my residence not for her general pissy attitude but for thinking nobody would notice or care if she tried to kick my cat away when said cat wandered over by her. My cat had a habit of sensing when someone wasn’t a ‘cat person’ and going instantly to begin the work of convincing them otherwise – even the highly allergic found themselves incapable of resisting her (though they weren’t so appreciative of the explosion of cat fur that looked like she’d done a whole body shedding onto them at once) – but not that girl. So she had to go.

The dog I have now is the first dog for me, growing up I had mostly small rodents and one rabbit until around 11 when I got my first cat. After that one had to be put to sleep because of an illness she caught because she was indoor-outdoor and fought with other neighborhood kitties over territory, I vowed to never let a cat of mine to go outdoors no matter what. When I still lived with my parents this was a source of friction but my resolve (and willingness to go as far as to have the cat box in my bedroom if that’s what had to be done to keep my cat indoors only) stayed firm.

Though I only have the experience of 1 dog to go on, I have to say that while it may be possible to train a dog to obey a command and do the thing they’re being commanded to do, it shouldn’t automatically be assumed that the dog is doing this out of respect or that the dog’s loyalty lies with the particular person. People tend to expect more from the animal when they have a dog as a pet, in comparison to when they have a cat. Given that these morons fail to grasp that human interactions are often as unique as they are complex, they probably don’t notice the details involved in human-pet/animal interactions and bonds.

occasional reader
occasional reader
4 years ago

Hello.

I am a bit late on this one, but anyway, let give it a try.

1) She uses birth control

? Ah, yes, the crumbling civilization stuff.

2) She has a “squeaky 5 year old voice”

Hmm, ok, i am sorry to say i can not really go against this one as i do not like high pitched voices. But what is a personal taste can not really be a general red flag, can it ?

3) She went to law school

?? Ah, you fear she can sue you for your abuses with even more efficiency than a non law school woman, ok

4) She has “many bins of chopped carrots in fridge”

??? Are you not transfering to much of your winny on poor carrots ?

5) She doesn’t wear dresses “without being commanded to”

??? Are we in the army now ?

6) She owns a dog

Not irrealist, if you are allergic. But, as in your langage, she is a “bitch”, you can expect to have two bitches at home. Woohoo, threesome…

7) She owns a horse

Same thing, even if i never heard of horse hair allergy. Mind you, your good friends PUA may remember you that women doing equitation have some kind of a knack when you-know-what.

Ah, i have forgotten that you also have your rule of never ever let a woman be above yourself (literal and figurative, it seems…)

8) She’s named Tiffany

Idem, if you are allergic to Tiffany hair (dyed, obviously).

9) Her mom is fat

Oh, you remember your middle school “your mom is so…” jokes ?

10) She’s two years older than you

? I do not understand the problem here, really

11) She “wants to wear [a] slutty bikini to music festival”

Yeah, it may be a bit out of context at the music festival of an amish ren fair, i give you that

12) She had sex with more dudes before you than she told you she did, which you discovered by going through old messages on her phone without her permission

?? Big Brother complex has shattered your trust ? Or maybe there was not trust even at the beginning of the relation ? You also should offer her a electronic bracelet to track her position, with a mic in it in order to monitor what and who she speaks with

13) She had sex with a number of football players during her freshman year in college, which you discovered by going through her old Facebook posts without her permission, and also the football players were black dudes

Oh, Big Brother and trust issues again, coupled with civilization crumble stuff. I guess you love doing combos in figthing games

14) She has gay friends, because they’ll tell her “you go girl” if she has sex with a cute guy in a bathroom

??? I do not get the point of this one

15) She is a survivor of childhood sexual abuse

Yeah, and as a survivor, she is surely tougher than you, not malleable enough for your seduction tricks, that is understandable

16) She’s “more social than you. Because sluts and whores crave attention above all, they tend to be heavily involved in social events, parties, get togethers and just overall more outgoing than you.”

Yeah, she definitively would better live in her parents basement almost all the time, allowing you to have at least a common point. You want your own Natascha Kampusch, it seems…

17) She previously worked at a flight attendant

Yeah, especially if she makes regular flights to Africa, i guess…

18) She “frequently [goes] to the hospital and has family with a history of health issues”

Yeah, because it is obvious that nobody in your own family had never had some kind of health issues. Let face it, you would better date a superheroine rather than a human woman, that may simplify the things in term of health issues

So you do not want to be Lord of The Rings with this kind of women ? Do not worry, i think they do not want an Eye of Sauron monitoring everything they do (and have done, and are going to do), thus they do not want your ring. This seems to be a good compromise.

Have a nice day.

maistrechat
4 years ago

(On a slightly more serious note, cats have protected their owners from burglars, rapists and fire, sometimes to the point of death. As it turns out, stereotypes about animals are stereotypes, and all critters should be judged on individual basis. All hail noble kittehs.)

This is actually an issue in my house. One of our cats is so protective of me that if I make any sound that she interprets as “pain ” she comes flying into the room and immediately assaults the living thing closest to me that isn’t my spouse. I now have to be very careful because if I so much as stub my toe while near the other cat he becomes the immediate target of a beating.

Ashara Payne
Ashara Payne
4 years ago
Reply to  maistrechat

@maistrechat
Oh dear, that is unfortunate!!
I went through a phase of stubbing my toe a lot. I’m not sure why, I think I just was too careless and didn’t realise how big my feet were, but I did it so often that when I eventually ended up breaking a bone and my whole foot swelled up black and blue, the pain was no worse than usual. It’s truly pain beyond its purpose. The lower legs have the fewest pain receptors, I guess for walking through thorny bushes, spiky grass, etc. A sore toe/foot makes walking very challenging. I guess it makes sense, or we’d all walk until our feet were irreparably damaged.