Things may be about to get very messy for pickup artist and most-hated-man-in-the-world candidate Roosh Valizadeh.
S. Jane Gari, the author of Losing the Dollhouse, a memoir dealing with emotional abuse, writes in a recent blog post that an Icelandic woman has come to her to tell her story of being raped by Roosh.
Up until this point, as Gari notes, Roosh has responded to accusations that he is a rapist — a conclusion many have come to by simply reading his own deeply creepy and unsettling accounts of his past sexual exploits — by proudly declaring that not a single woman has come forward to accuse him of rape.
“You would think that one girl would have come forward by now and say, ‘Roosh did it. He raped me,'” Gari reports Roosh as saying during his bizarre recent press coference. “Not one has come forward. Not one.’”
“Now she has,” Gari declares.
One of Roosh’s victims read my blog back in November and reached out to me, asking for my help in exposing him. She finally agreed to be interviewed after seeing how he continues to spout his poisonous, misogynist rhetoric with sickening bravado. I hope her courage will inspire other possible Roosh victims to come forward as well.
Here’s the story of the woman Gari calls “Susan” to protect her anonymity. (You can find more details on her blog.)
When Susan left a nightclub with her friends, Roosh, approached her on the street and insisted on walking her home. She asked him to leave her alone. Later, when she became separated from her friends, she noticed he was following her.
“You have a beautiful but sad walk. I know a great place to have a drink. You can join me. It will be fun,” he said.
Susan, Gari writes, told him several more times she didn’t want his supposed help, but he continued following her anyway.
When they reached Susan’s house, Gari continues, Roosh
asked politely if he could just use the toilet. Sleepy and still drunk from her night out, she acquiesced and let him in to use the bathroom.
Up until this point, Susan’s story matches one of the stories in Roosh’s book Bang Iceland almost exactly. The disappearance of Susan’s friends, which Roosh saw as an incredible bit of luck for him; Roosh following her home despite her clear and repeated protests; his insistence on coming in to use the bathroom — all of this is in Roosh’s own account.
It’s at this point that Roosh’s and Susan’s stories diverge wildly.
In Roosh’s version of events, she thanks him for walking him home, and after heating up some soup on the stove, joins Roosh on the couch
putting her legs over mine. Her wet feet were tiny and I compared them to my hands, which were a few inches larger. I went into horny creep mode and started rubbing her legs while talking.
Yes, even in Roosh’s own account, he comes across as a creepy predator.
After a brief conversation, they start kissing; she gets up, pours herself a bowl of soup, then heads into her bedroom.
“I followed her,” Roosh writes.
It went so fast in her bedroom that even I felt weird. Clothes ripped off. “Do you have a condom?” Jam the dick inside. Barely any kissing. I was too drunk to feel anything and she was too drunk to produce much in the way of lubrication, so after five minutes we stopped having sex, if that’s what you want to call it, and lay on our backs. She fell asleep and started snoring.
The next morning, Roosh says, he got up and left while she lay there sleeping.
As Roosh tells the story, in other words, he had brief, bad sex with a woman who was so not into it she was bone dry, and so drunk she passed out shortly after he gave up. It’s not clear even from his own account whether she was lucid enough to give meaningful consent. (This, by the way, is NOT the Icelandic woman Roosh has said he had sex with even though “in America” she would have been considered too drunk to give consent; that story comes later in Roosh’s book.)
Susan’s account of what happened after Roosh emerged from her bathroom is even more troubling. As Gari tells the story, Roosh asked her if she was home alone. When she said yes,
he asked her to touch his penis. When she refused, Roosh grabbed her.
Susan started crying and said, “Why are you doing this? You’re crazy.”
He laughed and overpowered her with force, saying, “All girls like this. It’s every woman’s fantasy. You don’t even know what you’re saying. You’re drunk, but I like drunk girls.” And then, according to Susan, he raped her.
So which account is more plausible — Roosh’s story of drunken but consensual sex or Susan’s story of forcible rape? If the latter, is Roosh’s version of events a lie, or is it his attempt to convince not only his readers but himself that what happened was just bad sex, not rape?
It’s worth noting, as I did in a previous post, that Roosh has admitted elsewhere to using force to get his way during sex. In Bang Ukraine, for example, Roosh describes using “muscle” to hold a woman down after she told him she wanted to change positions when the two were having sex. “I refused and we argued,” he wrote.
She tried to squirm away while I was laying down my strokes so I had to use some muscle to prevent her from escaping. I was able to finish, but my orgasm was weak.
Afterwards I told her she was selfish and that she couldn’t call an audible so late in the game.
This, too, Roosh presents as perfectly consensual sex.
Even if Susan’s account of Roosh raping her is 100% true, it’s unlikely Roosh will ever be prosecuted for this alleged crime. “He’s an American and she lives in Iceland.,” Gari notes. “She feels she has no recourse.”
Gari ends her post by urging any woman who may have been victimized by Roosh to step forward as Susan has done.
As Gari is careful to point out, Susan’s allegations against Roosh “have not been brought formally, nor has he been found guilty of a crime in court.” And I should note as well that I have not spoken to Susan myself; I am simply relaying what Gari has written. You can draw your own conclusions from the story she tells. I know I have.
We are all guilty that a multiple serial rapist and a criminal like Roosh is still free.
Where is our humanity?
This one guy and his army of violent bigots from RooshVForum keep a whole world in their knees.
This is sad. Very sad.
Today on ROK another good men have been doxxed and their lives destroyed by RooshV and his organized criminal group ROK
> Alan Robertshaw
Yes, “shame” and “fear” are basic manipulation levers. Both can be physical and social. Maybe shame is a subset of fear, because in general you fear to be ashamed by the others. Even when you are alone with the manipulator. It is sad to said that “egoists”/”egocentrists”/”narcissists” resist better to this kind of manipulation, since they care less about what the others are thinking.
As there are a lot of social influences, it is pretty hard to overcome this kind of manipulation, especially because they may come from unexpected situations and/or persons (it may be easier to turn out an obvious seller that you do not know in the street than a “friend” that often acts “nice” and who is at home).
There is something rotten… (and so on).
Hardly. He and his straggling gaggle of bigots are more like a pustulent pimple on the arse of society. Ugly, unpleasant, full of purulence and requiring the application of a decent antibacterial and a bit of sunlight to get rid of the infected matter.
@dontgiveahoot
Thanks for the link. I think her analysis is spot on. They treat dating like a video game, “creep” to them is (and absolutely should!) be the equivalent of an FTL Game Over.
@Tragedy,
Agreed, and I would never want to imply that they were. I indulged in a rhetorical flourish, but my point was that celebrating violence will appear to be the norm on this site if we don’t speak up about it.
If that’s true, I give the author no credit because they didn’t treat it as relevant. If a Rooshite assaulted a protester and came out with a broken nose, I have no beef with the protester. If a blogger celebrates the broken nose without caring who assaulted who, I have a beef with that blogger. And that’s all I’m trying to say — that tumblr is awful and we shouldn’t praise it.
Ugh.
@David – publish or not, apologies, but my other spam had a target. Fishing for sharks, sorry your usual crowd got offended. Oh, and also some truth hidden in the froth.
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This is really outrageous, but not for many reasons listed above.
Icelandic culture doesn’t work like yours. And this story is so much worse for Icelandic people.
A good friend of mine had the opposite thing happen to him:
Got drunk with someone, she was wobbling, insisted he walk her home (he’s from Canada), got her pizza and then left her at her house.
Came back to the bar, said “everything’s ok”, got looked at like he was a horrible person.
The Icelandic response was:
HE WAS LOOKING FOR SEX / ATTEMPTING TO TAKE ADVANTAGE.
Why?
Because Iceland is that safe (ok, it isn’t totally: there’s a lot of sexual abuse under the rug and incest and nasties but it’s really not that common) that if you walk someone home, you’re fishing. Not the usual USA / Canada version where it’s just a realistic thing to do.
And No. Means. No. It’s not even a thing there.
And yes: Iceland has a different culture.
No wonder Roosh had “success” – nothing in our culture would imagine that doing what he did was worth it in any sense of the word. It’s literally psychotic.
[rest of comment deleted by df]
Let me see if I follow you.
–Rape is so rare in Iceland that no one there could predict or imagine the idea that a man might follow a woman home and rape her.
–Also, people in Iceland assume that any man who follows a woman home is probably a rapist.
Wat.
@Frantic Caps
Interesting tidbit about Edgar Allan Poe. Thanks!
They don’t teach you this stuff in lit class.
Let’s not give Fifth Troll another five pages worth of comments this time. Don’t let yourselves get played.
@ kat
There’s a fringe theory that Walter Sickert was Jack the Ripper and, once again, there are clues in his paintings.
(It’s a pretty debunked theory, but still interesting)
Is it just me or is this basically an admission of guilt, right in the header? “I’m spamming your website with stuff written to annoy people, and while I know you dislike it I’m going to keep doing it anyway. Amidst the enormous drifts of words there might also be one or two true things; goodness knows why I didn’t just write those and leave the rest out.”
One wonders what it is that he hopes to accomplish. Maybe he suspects that if he writes enough words, we’ll all chip in and get him a Hurrah, You Defeated Feminism trophy?
Did the deleted portion show up earlier or was it deleted before it was even out of moderation. I’m kind of curious as to the content.
And yes, Fifth Sealion basically admitted to trolling before flouncing in the last thread so he’s long past anyone buying the claims of being ally.
I’m sure the fact that a portion of the comment was deleted means we’re doing feminism and the misogynists have now won.
I’m always amused when trolls act like we here at WHTM have to power to single handedly destroy the entire feminist movement by being mean to them.
Well, according to Doug Wilson, maybe she deserved it because she didn’t accept “masculine protection”. The Wartburg Watch has an interesting and somewhat disturbing article up about him. Doug Wilson is a pastor who 1. is closely tied to other “New Calvinist” preachers like Mark Driscoll and John Piper, 2. endorses patriarchalism, 3. thinks Slavery in the antebellum South was just peachy, 4. denies HIV causes AIDS, and 5. apparently thinks that women need to be protected by men, and if they refuse such protection, then it’s their own fault if they get raped. Oh, and 6. there is apparently an inverse correlation between a woman’s breast size and how annoying she is.
Maybe he should be the topic of the next WHTM post.
The word “my” is an admission of guilt, since making a new account to avoid moderation also violates the comment policy. Someone inform the dark lord.
It’s official. Roosh Rakewell goes to Hell. By order of King Minos, he is damned to Circle 8, Bolgia 1.
P.S. Some may argue Roosh should be in Circle 7 since he is a rapist, but he is a fraud on top of that.
Hi, what’s with all the comments on Valentine’s Day? Y’all lonely?
BTW I think Roosh got owned on Dr. Oz, it was fummy.
I’m really expecting that in few months, Roosh will claim that his “Bang Iceland” was actually a satirical book and that all his “bangs” were just a thought experiment.
In fact right now, he’s stating in his website that all the accusation are false because he never ever :
Cf. the excerpt from the article: He clearly stated he followed the girl home. Unless he already knew where the girl was living ? (stalker ?)
Well it can be something quite OK to say to someone who agrees to have sex with you. But I guess Roosh can’t understand the concept of “consensual sex”
Didn’t he write about a religious girl that was crying because she didn’t want to have sex (Ukraine maybe) ?
So in his book, the icelandic girls weren’t alone in their flat. So maybe they were living with their parents or they had a boyfriend sleeping aside (stupid beta-cuckholder Icelandic boyfriends)?
Well I’m too tired to find some articles that says that. And I could be wrong. Roosh could say it’s a satiric article.
Rootepetoot now threatening to sue Gari (top post, by Dooshy himself) on RoK. Sleazebags at “Randazza Legal Group” assisting him. This could get messy…
The first hit when I Googled it was from Roosh’s own blog:
I just hope she’s ok.
@msexceptiontotherule February 16, 2016 at 12:36 am
Answering mere words with pepper spray or a tazer? Say, are you mentally deranged?
It’s not just the “mere words” that the guy is saying, it’s that he’s following someone around/not leaving them alone, in order to keep saying them.
And please read the comments policy before accusing someone of being “mentally [anything]”.
@Newt February 19, 2016 at 10:04 am
Well, following sound is of course a whole other ballgame, but even in that case it’d be an overreaction. A pepper spray or taser is against [b]attackers[/b].