Scenes from yesterday’s anti-Roosh, anti-rape rallies. With bonus Jemaine Clement

But you said it pithier, Bernardo Soares. “Millenials, ugh”, sums that comment up perfectly.

They have no concept of playing on a sports team or having teammates.

I agree with this. I mean, who ever heard of a professional sportsman with toxic attitudes towards women?

(/s, obvs)

I classify renaming gross things into “roosh” as a personal attack, so something that should not be done.

Outside of the “insult to rock” factor, there is the fact it’s already very easy to attack him on what he is.

These guys are not arseholes because their mothers spoiled them and the wimmenz won’t sex them. They’re arseholes because they refuse to empathise with others or examine their beliefs.

Thank you, Imperator Kahlo et al; there’s a lot that’s troublesome about that comment, not least the fact that genuinely “socially awkward” people who might be deeply unhappy about how hard it is for them to connect to others (thinking of someone I know who’s on the spectrum, for example) are perfectly capable of being decent humans beings, and of seeing and despising Roosh/PUA-MRA crap for the dreck that it is.
Also being thin/fat/sporty/not sporty/conventionally attractive or not has precisely FA x zero to do with this.

There’s a Lindy West article about this in today’s Guardian.

It’s just gone up so the comments haven’t yet degenerated into the usual MRA apologetics. There is one comment I like though from a chap saying:

“I’ve never heard of this Roosh V. Mind you, I haven’t even seen Roosh I to IV yet.”

Doesn’t add a lot to the debate but made me giggle.

I’m guessing there were more journalists covering the average protest than were at the press conference.

I can’t help but notice that Jemaine Clement has his little blue tick while Milo is denied! MISANDRY! BLARGH!

Excellent point! Not that long ago, the mantra was “Don’t feed the trolls.” But we’ve seen some extremely hateful writing and videos on the Interwebz, and I think it’s good we’re calling it out.

I’ve always subscribed to the Baggins method: Keep the trolls talking in circles until they’re exposed to the cold light of day.

There is a Roosh supporter in the comments now 🙁

There’s also someone who is whining about how Roosh isn’t an MRA.

And of course there are several comments blaming misogyny on feminists being too mean and uppity and one saying we need to win Roosh’s supporters over by creating a fat acceptance movement for men.

one saying we need to win Roosh’s supporters over by creating a fat acceptance movement for men.

I’d actually be entirely behind this. Male body acceptance is a thing that needs to happen, and our gender is pretty far behind women with regards to movements like this.

@ viscaria

If only your generation, the very best generation to have ever existed, had been the last one.

In our defence, we did have a pretty good try at making that happen; what with the Cold War and wrecking the environment.

one saying we need to win Roosh’s supporters over by creating a fat acceptance movement for men.

I’d actually be entirely behind this. Male body acceptance is a thing that needs to happen, and our gender is pretty far behind women with regards to movements like this.

The Fat Acceptance movement and Health At Every Size movement are already fighting for all genders. Is there something specific to the way men experience sizeism that requires a special movement? I’m curious.

“…I’m gonna harness this. I’m gonna harness all of this coverage that you guys are giving me, convert it to money, and women; that’s what I’m gonna do. That’s the job that I have to do. I’m getting emails from girls, a lot of girls right now. And I plan, once the drama dies down, if I can survive it, I may have to get in touch with them. You know, that’s what you have given me…”

An excerpt from the response (by Roosh, clearly) to one of the first questions asked at his little press conference (video linked by @Auntie Alias). If every answer is this verbose, I might have trouble slogging through this whole video.