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Catch Your Man With Donuts: A Roosh-Free Open Thread

There's a BOFA joke here somewhere.
There’s a BOFA joke here somewhere.

It’s quittin’ time here at We Hunted the Mammoth. So let’s start off the weekend with a Roosh-Free open thread. Feel free to talk about anything and everything that is not Roosh. Like, for example, that weird old ad above. No trolls, no MRAs allowed.

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Dreadnought
Dreadnought
5 years ago

@Paradoxical

Ahem! We prefer the term “Beaver folk”, also that’s our word so you can’t use it.

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
5 years ago

Tim Horton’s would definitely catch me. Even just the coffee would, theirs is splendid.

Hu's On First
Hu's On First
5 years ago

Marco Rubio’s behavior during the Republican debate is reminding me of a BUGSer. He keeps repeating the same mantra over and over about how Barack Obama does know what he’s doing, and has a deliberate plan to “diminish” America by making it more like the rest of the world but Rubio believes that America is exceptional and the greatest nation in the history of the world, blah blah blah.

Rubio repeated the exact same words no fewer than three (or was it four?) times. Did he go to the BUGSer/Bob Whitaker school of repetitive propagandistic mantras? The only difference is that Rubio keeps talking about how the rest of the world is a threat to America’s greatness and existence, but BUGSers talk about how nonwhites are all a threat to the greatness (and indeed the very existence) of whites.

Is American exceptionalism just the colorblind version of white supremacy/nationalism? It’s starting to seem that way.

Bina
5 years ago

To be fair, that’d catch me too out of sheer curiosity. We don’t have Tim Horton’s in the States, and I’ve heard nothing but good things from the Moose People of Canada about it.

So, it’d catch us fluxy, nonbinary, Non-Canadian folk too!

The Timbits would catch just about anyone…they’re nummy doughnut holes. I’m partial to the chocolate-cake ones and the cherry ones, but I’ll eat ’em all quite happily.

And who can resist a roll-up-the-rim-to-win coffee cup? NOBODY. (The contents are also good, although I’m not a coffee person myself — too jittery.)

BritterSweet
5 years ago

Ooh, looks like this thread has turned to the subject of pies! Any fans of Undertale who wanted to taste a butterscotch cinnamon pie?

Skiriki
Skiriki
5 years ago

SQUEE! OMG FOLKS!

It looks like I will be getting TWO kitties mid-March! OMG OMG OMG.

*runs around screaming and waving her arms*

Significant Otter approved my kittyplan, and due to twist of fates, two might be miiiiiiiine! (All depends on if they take a shine on us, they’re adult cats, and they’re going to do a two week test-stay at my place.)

Tovius
Tovius
5 years ago

I would like to second Pumpkin Pie.

Biot (yet again!)
Biot (yet again!)
5 years ago

I’d like to make a vote for angel pie, though in our family the recipe doesn’t call for lemons like the Food.com recipe does, but for crushed graham crackers, egg whites, and other things. I think it calls for chopped walnuts as well. It’s delicate to make, since you have to beat the egg whites into a foam and then fold the dry ingredients into it, but it is heavenly when served with some whipped cream.

I might be able to get the recipe for it if I can find it at my parents’ place, and we have more recipes than we can handle there.

Also, does anybody know anything about empanadas or just food prep in general? I might have gotten myself in over my head with a possible job, because I asked the owner of a restaurant that makes empanadas if he needed temporary help at his restaurant and he said he’ll call me on Monday about it. No, I am not making this up; I’m a little petrified of the consequences.

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

I can make empanadas, but what are your doubts? Don’t worry too much, I am sure they will take the time to teach you. As long as you are not completely inept in the kitchen, you’ll do well.

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

He doesn’t expect you to have a gastronomy degree or something, does he?

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

@Hu’s on First

Is American exceptionalism just the colorblind version of white supremacy/nationalism? It’s starting to seem that way.

It most certainly is not. There’s nothing colorblind about it.

Dana Alexander
5 years ago

Even after world wide outrage he has s at less than 25,000 followers. Funny how a man who claims 1/4 of us are mentally ill whores spends his entire existence vying for female approval. Wanting to restrict a woman’s choice because he knows they will not choose him. I think what he meant to say was “Could not bang.” Bandits ALWAYS hang themselves.

Biot (yet again!)
Biot (yet again!)
5 years ago

@Chiomara: my main doubts come from a lack of experience in the food service industry and doubts about my own abilities. I can be detail-oriented when I need to be, but I feel like I’m too fussy about some details and oblivious to other ones. I know I have a habit of short-selling myself or downplaying my accomplishments as “no big deal, I just did what was asked,” so the self-confidence issues are gnawing at me as well. I at least have some kitchen skills going for me from preparing meals, though.

The owner doesn’t seem pretentious or demanding, either; these are just empanadas, and it certainly isn’t haute cuisine. He just seems harried from being swamped by customers, because he sold out on Friday and had to close early because of it.

katz
5 years ago

Is American exceptionalism just the colorblind version of white supremacy/nationalism? It’s starting to seem that way.

To me they seem more like compatible concepts usually shared by the same people.

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

@katz
I really don’t see any difference except the dog whistle; since day one it’s been used pretty much exclusively as an excuse to kill darker skinned folks and take their land and/or not creating functional infrastructure because it might benefit people of color.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Chiomara

Nope, he decided that he was not into a lying married dude, and cut the encounter short while he had most of the evening to find other no strings to make the sex with. 😛

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
5 years ago

Thanks for the advice, Kreator and EJ! (If anyone else answers my original comment after the editing period for this one ends, I thank you too.) I’ll probably end up reserving the movie at some point, but not anytime within the next week. I’m usually pretty good at ignoring movie problems in order to focus on what I like, so I think I’ll be OK when I finally cave. And I now feel brave enough to explain why I wanted to watch that movie in the first place-simply put, I have major pantsfeels for Will Arnett and can ignore all sorts of crap in a movie if it means I get to see him a little bit.
Paradoxical Intention, what general area of the States do you live in? I live in the Illinois/Indiana/Ohio/Kentucky region of the Midwest and there’s a Tim Horton’s about 10 minutes away from me, so I’m thinking they just haven’t opened any locations in your area yet. I highly recommend going if they do-their coffee and cinnamon rolls are great.
If we’re still doing pie wars, I’m Team Chocolate, unless there’s peanut butter pie-then I’m Team Peanut Butter.

Dreadnought
Dreadnought
5 years ago

OK, so everyone is pretty much in agreement that Time Horton’s is an acceptable place for a first date right? Because I’ll need to write it down if so.

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

@Biot Don’t worry. According to my experience, he is going to take a day to teach you the job. And empanadas are quite easy and fast to make once you have some practice ^^

@MsException OH, damn, that’s my girl.
I honestly don’t understand how can some women carry on after that, or even go after men that they know are on a relationship. I know the biggest fault is on the cheating man, but I just can’t avoid being disgusted at the woman.

Story time: I have a sexually open relationship and I see my boyfriend flirting on Facebook sometimes. Some women flirt with him without knowing our relationship is open but knowing that he is in one, some straight out hate me, offend me and especifically want to sleep with him to humiliate me (without even KNOWING me sometimes) (needless to say I don’t let him flirt with them anymore), and ONE of them cut him right off and said “look, you are cute and everything, but shouldn’t you be saying those things to your GIRLFRIEND?! Be a better human being, don’t do that to her, I will tell her if you don’t stop”. I was so happy to read that, I wanted to freaking hug her. I was more than happy to let them hook up.
But it’s baffling to me that all these years and only one woman had the decency of saying “respect your girlfriend”, instead of even pretending to like me in public, sometimes, and attempting to stab my back in private.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Paradoxy

Congratulations on the V/O job!!!!

For future reference if you get the throat thing again, over here we have something called AAA Spray, hopefully you have that or an equivalent over there.

Gets used a lot by professional singers. You can’t overdo it or you get nodules, but it’s find for the occasional emergency.

katz
5 years ago

Dalillama: See, I’d classify that as imperialism, which I think of as a result of American exceptionalism, not the same thing. And exceptionalism also shows up in other places: It’s why we refuse to copy European infrastructure even though it’s clearly better, for instance, and it causes common lies about history like “America was the first democracy.” All of which is clearly bad, but not white nationalist, per se.

(Yes, I’m being totally wonkish, since the same people believe all these things.)

Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
Hambeast, Social Justice Beastie
5 years ago

My cable/internet were out yesterday, so I’ve missed a lot! But I made banana bread and cookies, so not a total loss!

All my good thoughts to you, Nequam. I hope your dad is getting better.

But, I’m not so much a pie person, but I do like cookie-crust pies. Especially Coco’s chocolate silk pie which they only have during the holiday season now :(. It’s the pie-crust I don’t dig, never have.

If I’m making fruit dessert, it’s going to be a wonderful cobbler recipe my mom got from the Capper’s Weekly cookbook she received in the early 50’s as a wedding present. It wasn’t new when she got it, either. Unfortunately, the book perished in a fire at my dad’s in 1998. I’m almost over it. Not really.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

If I’m making fruit dessert

“Lets get ready for crumble!!!”

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

most delicious fruit dessert/coffee snack/indulgence:

sliced peach/apricot/apple
raspberries/blueberries/blackberries
raw honey
cream cheese
melba toast

cream cheese on melbs. add fruit in your arrangement/assortment of preference. top with honey. eat and get fat cause dey so good.

apparently capitalization is misandry.

Dalillama
Dalillama
5 years ago

@ katz

And exceptionalism also shows up in other places: It’s why we refuse to copy European infrastructure even though it’s clearly better, for instance,

That’s exactly my point; the underlying reason, whenever you pin one of these clowns down about why we can’t have, say, a functional healthcare system like you find elsewhere in the industrialized world, IME the answer always involves how ‘homogenous’ the populations of those places are,.

Bina
5 years ago

SQUEE! OMG FOLKS!

It looks like I will be getting TWO kitties mid-March! OMG OMG OMG.

*runs around screaming and waving her arms*

Significant Otter approved my kittyplan, and due to twist of fates, two might be miiiiiiiine! (All depends on if they take a shine on us, they’re adult cats, and they’re going to do a two week test-stay at my place.)

Awesomesauce!

I googled “kitty high five”, and got:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWtkg7fUNA4

Also, today I made coq au vin, avec beaucoup de vin. Et cognac. Hic!

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Would it be weird of me to like chocolate chip cookies, but also have my favorite bits be the cookie, and not the chocolate chips?

I just like the way the cookie tastes.

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

Just made a strawberry mousse. It’s very labor intensive, but totally worth it.

ETA

@PI – I have a recipe for a cookie that’s basically chocolate chip without the chocolate chips. I forgot what they’re called, but they’re really good.

Edit #2: They’re called Blondie cookies.

Bina
5 years ago

PS: Here’s the recipe for the coq:

http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/ina-garten/coq-au-vin-recipe4.html

You won’t need THAT much salt or pepper, and dried thyme works just as well.

(Also, it’s not pronounced “cocoa van”. Although a vanload of cocoa would also be lovely.)

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

Sorry I’m late at checking the comments but I’m still evacuated from my house until the bathroom remodelling is done. I just had to thank all of you who were so kind to join in my excitement over a new, well, to use his word, relationship! (Yes, it’s come to that)

@EJ

He is from Belgium, so it’s only a two hour flight. He’s a teacher at a uni so he will get plenty of holidays we can use as an advantage. Also, I’m not that fond of living in Finland in case things get super serial. 😉

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

Our older son has been approved for SSI. We had lots of help, which was good. I did the waiting room/talking to claims processors part, because my husband is good at lots of things but dealing with bureaucracy gives him a deep and lasting pain. It was easier than dealing with the local school district to get him into an accommodative school environment.

So that’s a positive. He’s still refusing the medication that would decrease the voices and hallucinations. Being eighteen, he has that right, and he hasn’t been a danger to himself or others. We’re not best pleased by his refusal, but are accepting his decision as long as it’s tenable.

Also, he picked up a disagreeable habit online of referring to women as ‘females’. We are very diligent about correcting him when it happens.

Leda Atomica
Leda Atomica
5 years ago

Also, best pie ever is blueberry Finnish style. I felt like I needed to put that out there.

Skiriki
Skiriki
5 years ago

Bina:

Awesomesauce!

I’m totally floating on cloud nine. I can’t believe this is happening.

I googled “kitty high five”, and got:

ROFLMAO. 😀

Also, today I made coq au vin, avec beaucoup de vin. Et cognac. Hic!

NOM!

Leda Atomica:

Also, best pie ever is blueberry Finnish style. I felt like I needed to put that out there.

Ah but so many styles in that too… here’s mine!

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

This article is super depressing. A woman is being sued for not being a perfect housewife. http://m.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/woman-to-go-on-trial-in-italy-for-being-a-bad-housewife-20160205-gmn857.html

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
5 years ago

@Kupo

The nerve of that woman, how could she do that to her husband! She didn’t cook or clean enough and horror of all horrors she kicked him out of their bedroom on occasion!! What is the world coming to when a man can’t come home every day of every year to a spotless house, gourmet meals, and sex on demand!? Doomed I say, the world is doomed if this keeps happening!

(sarcasm mode off)

Seems like she had good reason to kick him out of the bedroom on occasion.

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

We had the ultimate brinner (breakfast/dinner) for Super Bowl last night. We stole the recipe a few years ago from a place called King’s Chef Diner in Colorado Springs (hideous website here: http://www.cosdiner.com/).

It goes like this:

– A big mound of hash browns
– On top of that, your choice of bacon, ham, sausage or “fakie” – we did fake bacon AND fake sausage (fake ground meat + a spice mix of chili flakes, sage, marjoram, brown sugar, cloves, fennel, salt, black pepper)
– On top of that, grilled onions
– On top of that, tons of shredded cheese
– On top of that, another big mound of hash browns
– On top of that, two fried eggs with runny yolk (because why not)
– On top of that, country gravy all over the whole thing
– On top of that, more cheese

They call it “The Grump”, and it’s $16.35 for all the calories you need in a week. I’d show pictures, but frankly it tastes a lot better than it looks.

I washed this down with two giant margaritas (golden tequila with mezcal, triple sec, fresh lime juice mixed 1:1:1, and heaps of powdered sugar), and two equally giant cups of white wine and sprite mixed 1:1.

Today my body is asking “why?”

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

A coworker emailed this to everyone in our department:

8th February 2016 marks the beginning of the Monkey year (Chinese zodiac).

For those who are celebrating, wishing you have a health, peace, and happiness year.
For those who are not, sharing the joy with you.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

Re: blueberries and the native European “blueberries” or properly bilberries

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilberry

From what I’ve heard, Finnish wild berry industry insists on calling bilberries by their proper English name, to distinguish their brand from blueberries. They have an even higher anthocyanin content than blueberries, which is a potential edge on the global superfood hype market.

Proper blueberries originate in North America. Apparently, most European languages call them by whatever name was already in use for bilberries (in Swedish literally blåbär or “blueberry”). This causes regular confusion, especially since bilberries are not very well known to most English speakers.

(Sorry, this is my field of professional pedantry!)

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@Arctic Ape

I’ve never ever heard of this distinction before. My mind is blown.

Skiriki
Skiriki
5 years ago

Bilberries > Blueberries (the latter is often called “pensasmustikka”, “bush bilberry” in Finland).

So much more flavorful! Imagine ten blueberries packed in a single bilberry, that’s roughly the difference.

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago
Reply to  Skiriki

How do elderberries compare to bilberies? I’ve had the former, but not the latter.

Arctic Ape
Arctic Ape
5 years ago

Bilberries are certainly more flavorful, if also smaller and less sweet than blueberries. I haven’t tried elderberries, almost nobody has where I live.

To further complicate the nomenclature, Finnish (as well as Swedish) has fully distinct names for the two locally native bilberry species, common bilberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) and bog bilberry (V. uliginosum).

Lingonberry (V. vitis-idaea) is also called red bilberry in English, although it looks and tastes almost more like cranberries (V. macrocarpon in America and V. oxycoccos in Europe). The popular trade name “lingon” in originally Swedish.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

Soooo I actually tried to help a MGTOW the other day. I’ve been watching some life coaching videos by one particular coach I like. He focuses a lot on people who’ve been abused by narcissists. He goes on to explain that if you are convinced the world is shit, it will be shit because you’ll go out of the way to confirm your biases. He then goes on to explain how it’s really hard to get OUT of the shit tunnel, but you CAN with a few tips he has (one being, “When you’re thinking the world is shit, ask yourself, ‘What about the kittens? Are there no kittens? Do they not have pink noses?’ and you’ll remember that there is something good in the world.” :D).

This MGTOW goes on and starts whining, “But why bother? If you get out of the tunnel but you get into a world where women are still so entitled and spoiled and gold digging and get rewarded for their bad behavior, what’s the point? You might as well stay in the shit tunnel!”

He went on for ages in typical MRA fashion. Now….I figured since we’re all watching these videos for help since we’ve all been abused in some way, that we’re all looking to GET OUT OF our poop tunnels, we could all be allies. I know, I know, stupid of me, but I wanted to at least try to help. I told him maybe a way he could get out of that shit tunnel is to think of a good woman he knows that isn’t a spoiled, self entitled, golddigging jerk. Surely he must know at least one. I told him if he doesn’t, he could talk to me. I told him I would honestly listen to his complaints and would help him out of them if I could. I told him I would never call him names or try to get anything out of him.

…..so instead of taking me up on my offer, I had to hear about how that was of course impossible because I’m a woman and I’m obviously out to trick him somehow. Then I had to read another thesis about how women are terrible. I decided to try an experiment. I tried to see if I ALWAYS treated him kindly and ALWAYS refused to play into his paranoia if I could make headway. I went on to say from a place of concern some examples, “This is how you could end up if you don’t change your attitude. You obviously don’t want to end up like that or you wouldn’t be here seeking help.”

“Wow…I can’t believe you went there…” and more novels about how terrible I was.

I again told him, “No matter what you say to me, I’m not going to be unkind to you.”

So he kept being horrible, I kept being kind…..and he stayed horrible. He also recruited his friends to harass me on my Youtube account. Of course, I just blocked and deleted, and also told them all, “Sorry, you can’t make me feel bad no matter what you say to me,” which just pisses them off to no end.

Ultimately, it’s tragicomical. It’s funny they’re so convinced they are right no matter how much evidence is given to them, on the other hand it’s sad knowing someone will be a miserable flaming tithead their whole lives. A part of me really thinks these people can be rehabilitated. It can’t feel good thinking and acting the way they do….it CAN’T! I am convinced that no one wakes up in the morning and says, “Gosh, it feels good to hate women.” It must suck ass! I know because I’ve been in hate tunnels before and they weren’t easy to get out of (which I told him). It’s also clear that some of them want help but can’t/won’t reach out because that wouldn’t be very alpha so they’ll just get mocked by these folks claiming to be on their side if they do (which I also told him).

I dunno…I guess I should have known better….I’m not MAD at him or anything…I think of him as a crying toddler upset that his mommy wouldn’t let him have ice cream. I truly pity him. Is it completely stupid and naive to think maybe he WILL some day get out and be a better person? That maybe there is some hope for at least a handful of these fart goblins? Meh.

Ellesar
Ellesar
5 years ago

A Land Whale – you have to be commended for your patience and all round decency. But this man not only refused your kindness, he actually enlisted others to make you feel bad!

Now that is a fucked up and nasty thing to do, and also shows that he DOES have a support system, however toxic that may be (and clearly is very). It is not up to women to ‘prove’ to this nasty piece of work that we are not the way he is depicting us. Really that is the old ‘better be nice in case he turns nasty’ thing that all girls and women learn from a very early age.

I really think he has created his situation and he can wallow in it. It will almost certainly lead to poorer physical health and an earlier death than if he had made different choices.

Robert
Robert
5 years ago

A Land Whale – good on you for fighting the good fight. Reminds me of Robert Anton Wilson’s idea of ‘reality tunnels’ – your view of reality is necessarily constrained, but you can make your tunnel bigger to let in more reality.

Or, as you saw, you can smear your tunnel with poop and then complain that you’re in a tunnel of shit and it’s NOT YOUR FAULT. It’s tragic to give other people the responsibility for making you happy.

Freemage
Freemage
5 years ago

A Land Whale: All the kudos to you for trying, all the boos to him for not only refusing, but doubling down in his own misery. And yes, “tragicomic” is really the operative term for most of these guys.

WeirwoodTreeHugger
WeirwoodTreeHugger
5 years ago

I like lingonberries. I don’t think most Americans who aren’t Minnesotan and/or of Scandinavian descent know they exist though.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Well done, A Land Whale. That sort of thing is draining but can help people greatly too. It speaks immensely well of you as a person.

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

Thanks for the kind words, folks. I know it’s possible:

https://noodlemaz.wordpress.com/2013/02/14/confessions-of-a-former-misogynist/

A Land Whale
A Land Whale
5 years ago

Additionally, I don’t care for lingonberries only because they sound too closely related to dingle berries. XD