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Catch Your Man With Donuts: A Roosh-Free Open Thread

There's a BOFA joke here somewhere.
There’s a BOFA joke here somewhere.

It’s quittin’ time here at We Hunted the Mammoth. So let’s start off the weekend with a Roosh-Free open thread. Feel free to talk about anything and everything that is not Roosh. Like, for example, that weird old ad above. No trolls, no MRAs allowed.

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kupo
kupo
5 years ago

@Snowberry
I know one of these people. She is always late to work but it’s not her fault, it’s traffic and completely out of her control. In fact, it’s her manager’s fault that she’s stressed out about her job being at risk as a result of this; it’s just too stressful for her to have to think of the possibility of losing her job. She also is absolutely not actively trying to have a baby when she has unprotected sex. She’s just letting nature take its course. It would be different (somehow) if she were trying.

She’s actually a nice person despite all of this, but it’s frustrating supporting her, especially when she was living rent free at my place while absolutely not “trying” to have a baby with her then husband (who was not at all nice and also living with me).

I have to think about whether that mentality fits with MRAs.

Jarnsaxa
Jarnsaxa
5 years ago

You know what they say: the quickest way to a man’s heart is through his stomach. Har har har…

I don’t think that’s anatomically correct, but I suppose if you stab hard enough it’ll work?

Jason Deng
Jason Deng
5 years ago

David you must write about the time when Roosh statutory raped a 17 years old:

Roosh (statutory) raped a 17 years old girl as well

http://i.imgur.com/P5haimH.jpg

Crip Dyke
Crip Dyke
5 years ago

Okay,

BOFA

???

I checked the glossary. Not there. This is one with which I’m not familiar.

Tovius
Tovius
5 years ago

Oh, and David, thanks for making the open thread. I was getting tired of looking at Roosh’s face.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ Katz

Hey, I think it was you that used the phrase “ideologically pure candidate” when we were discussing the tendency of progressives to take a ‘ black ball’ approaches to voting.

Looks like The Guardian is stealing your ideas….

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/feb/05/democrats-search-ideological-purity-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders

Dreadnought
Dreadnought
5 years ago

@Crip

BOFA

Big Outlandish Fairies Association

epitome of incomprehensibility

I am smiling at the cake discussion, although it’s making me hungry too. The Finnish cakes with the jam on top look especially scrumptious.

@Nequam, I’m so sorry about your dad’s illness. I hope there’s some relief in knowing what’s wrong, and some hope it can be treated. When I was a teenager my father had a close call with gallstones/gall bladder infection because it wasn’t diagnosed properly for a long time. (He’s doing well now and mostly quite healthy, except for getting pneumonia in the fall – that one wasn’t life-threatening, but not fun either.) Anyway, please take care of yourself.

Yesterday I had to proofread a medical article, and now I know that gall bladder infection is called cholecystitis. (See, I learn things from my work! Exciting things that I need to know. The perks of proofreading…)

MissEB47
MissEB47
5 years ago

Imaginary Petal-No probs!! 😀

“EDIT: FFS. I forgot to change my name on my laptop. :p”

LOL! I must admit, I was quite confused for a second there.

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

Note to whom may interest : you can catch women too. Especially me. I prefer pecan nuts pies instead of donuts, though. I am accepting candidates of all kinds and genders, pm me for further information on how to apply.

But don’t bring iron balls, okay? I am more of the handcuff kind.

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@MissEB47

http://usercontent2.hubimg.com/589584_f496.jpg

I took my half. You can have the other half? :p

@Chiomara

Oh my.

Chiomara
Chiomara
5 years ago

@imaginary petal (adorable new name!)

Oh my.

Thaaaats right, honey, oh my.

Make an orderly line, boys, girls and others, try not crowding up too much nor resorting to physical violence. Everyone will get their chance.

Redsilkphoenix
Redsilkphoenix
5 years ago

I’m surprised that no-one’s mentioned Sadie Hawkins Day in relation to the leap year marriage proposals: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sadie_Hawkins_Day

@Crip Dyke: check the Urban Dictionary for that one.

ETA: the link: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bofa

Don’t say you weren’t warned. >.<

Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
Nikki the Bluth Wannabe
5 years ago

I’m considering going on my local library’s website later this morning and reserving the 2-year-old Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie with Megan Fox, for non-Megan Fox reasons I don’t quite feel comfortable sharing unless directly asked. Anyone care to talk me out of it?

Masse_Mysteria
Masse_Mysteria
5 years ago

@ epitome of incomprehensibility
The scrumptiousness of the Runerberg pastries is a matter of taste. I liked them a lot as a kid, because they were a special delicacy you only got at this time of the year, but they weren’t really to my taste because they had some kind of alcohol taste. Or bitter almond or something. I’m more of a cookie baker, so I wouldn’t know.

Man, I haven’t even had those in years. Must be because my mother makes such delicious ones that I never want to buy them, since they wouldn’t taste the same. (Particularly since she usually makes them in muffin molds, which means that the ratio of toppings to dough is a lot more interesting than in the original high version.)

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@Chiomara

Thank you! And thank you. 😉

EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@Nequam:
All my best wishes go out to him and to you too. I hope everything turns out well. Please keep us posted about this.

@Leda Atomica:
Congratulations! Which country is he based in? I hope the two of you are happy and that the distance between you is easily overcome.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Nequam
I’m so sorry to hear about your dad. That’s a heavy load for both you and him.

@valentine
What a shame. I’m sorry that your best friend has cancer.

I’m hoping for the best possible outcome for both of these people.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Leda Atomica
Wow! That’s a lovely turn of events. It sounds like you’re feeling confused but delighted right now.

I’m happy for both of you.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

I’m going to change jobs.

Although the terrible new rotas probably won’t stick (or maybe they will) it’s given me a kick up the butt to get out of languishing away in a minimum wage job and actually get on the career ladder. I know my skills, I know what I want to do, I just don’t know how to go about the new job searching venture. I’ve organised a Careers Guidance Interview with a local company to start off with.

Must admit, I’m nervous, since I’m essentially starting again at age 27 and I’ll have to compete with graduates. Ones with better, more specific degrees than me, perhaps. Yes I have work experience on my side but it’s not that impressive, IMO. But I do have a cracking resumé thanks to paying some professionals to spruce it up, and I can be charming at job interviews. Maybe my people skills will win the day, who knows.

EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

Good luck, sunnysombrera!

My company has recently gone through a hiring blitz and we’ve been prioritising people with some life experience over brand-new graduates quite heavily, even if neither have the technical skills. People who’ve never had a job before often haven’t developed abilities like “how to work under pressure when everyone around you is being shitty to you because they’re under pressure too” and “how to cope with management making the wrong decisions but expecting you to muddle through anyway”, which are often more important than being able to write good code.

I don’t know what you’re applying for but if they’re anything like we are, I can see how they might be very enthusiastic to have you.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

Thanks EJ, that’s very encouraging. You make a good point. I suppose when I think about it there are a lot of things I could list that I’ve learnt in the last few years, stuff that I most certainly didn’t learn at uni. Things like prioritising tasks because we don’t have the staff to do everything at once, delegating/negotiating tasks with teammates, biting my tongue when customers are being shitty towards me and having to de-escalate situations where they’re kicking off for no good reason. Keeping things in good shape down to the details so that the auditor will be happy at her next visit. To name a few.

Also, since we’re a place that handles a fuckload of cash every day and tends to attract near-homeless people due to a chance of easy money (sometimes we have free tickets even though the prizes are small), we also have to stay sharp. Because some people – even a couple of regulars – will try to scam, rob, and take advantage of us.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

If you can prioritise and delegate tasks effectively, can resolve customer issues, can stay sharp for scammers and can motivate people to do things they don’t want to do, then you’re basically a shoe-in for any supervisory position that I’ve ever come across. If you can do that and keep auditors happy, then you should be in management. Those are the sort of skills that can’t easily be taught but are really valuable; and anyone smart enough to be worth working for will be on the lookout for that.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@ sunny

Good Luck! If you already have a professionally spruced up resumée, you probably won’t need the advice, and maybe this is common knowledge and I was just being stupid before, but anyway:

my partner once gave me the valuable tip of beginning the resumée with a set of skills instead of just list prior positions. I’m pretty sure that helped me get interviews I wouldn’t have had otherwise. What you just mentioned as your skills (but which wouldn’t be reflected in a list of positions) can be made into several bullet points at the beginning of the resumée, so that employers see that first and then can connect it to the jobs you’re listing.

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@sunnysombrera

Good luck!

God, this discussion is really making me feel how incredibly uninterested I am in having a career. Sigh.

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
5 years ago

I now have a kind of job. From now on I’ll be grannying for daughter and granddaughter once a week – at the swimming pool.

Bub is now 3 months old so she’s started her swimming lessons. Bonus! Free until she’s 4 months old. My ‘job’ is to baby wrangle while daughter’s getting changed before and after their water session. She says the faffing about being all tangled up with her own wet things and dealing with baby fussing at the same time is a bit too much. And she’s pretty certain I’d be up for it. I might have been just a bit eager saying Yes!

Should be fun for all.

Kreator
Kreator
5 years ago

@ Nikki

Nope, I’m even going to encourage you. Sure the movie is dumb (the plot has more holes in it than Swiss cheese), but I found it fun nonetheless. Also, at least for Hollywood blockbuster standards, the film’s treatment of its female characters isn’t that horrible. It even passes the Bechdel test!

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

On a positive note, my wife didn’t receive a Facebook birthday message this year from her ex (many years ago) turned creepy stalker. He’d been sending yearly birthday greetings from various new Facebook accounts to get around being blocked, but it seems as if he’s finally moved on. I think this is two years in a row with no message.

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

@ Nequam I’m so sorry to hear that. As a cancer patient (in remission: medicine – yay!) I know how scary that diagnosis must be. All the very best to you and your family.

@ Viscaria

Men can refuse? Dang, there goes my plans for the 29th – get my hostess trolley, a pile of sugary snacks and a ball and chain. I was just worrying I might snare me a diabetic and put him in a sugar coma before I could drag him to the altar.

(I’m happily married actually – to a diabetic, and neither of us care much for doughnuts. Pancakes, now… that’s another story. Especially if there’s maple syrup).

On the hostess trolley thing, I have some activist friends who always take a hostess trolley, teapot, cups, tea making gubbins, doilies and cakes on protests. Nothing defuses a potentially confrontational situation like a cuppa and a cake presented neatly on a frilly doily. We are British, after all.

This 29th February will be my grandfather’s 31st birthday.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@mildlymagnificent:
Congrats! Swimming is awesome and I gather that being a grandparent is far, far more fun than being a parent; so enjoy that.

@dhag85:
That’s such a relief. Stalkers are terrifying. My best wishes to Mrs dhag85.

(As an aside, would you prefer that I switch to calling you Imaginary Petal?)

@Nikki the Bluth Wannabe:
If you drink and will have company, then do it. If you don’t drink and/or don’t have company, then don’t. Michael Bay movies are not intended for the sober, and one should not drink alone.

@bluecat:

On the hostess trolley thing, I have some activist friends who always take a hostess trolley, teapot, cups, tea making gubbins, doilies and cakes on protests. Nothing defuses a potentially confrontational situation like a cuppa and a cake on a doily. We are British, after all.

This is by far the best idea ever, and also helps to avoid getting manhandled by the police. Even if they’re happy to hurt human beings, no British person will risk breaking a teacup.

What a very civilised country we live in.

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@EJ

Right? Weirdly, he’s also married, so sometimes in the past we’ve had to deal with explaining to his wife why he’s been messaging another woman for years. Fuck, some people are infuriating.

Yeah, I’m probably sticking with this name. I’ll keep the “formerly” in there for a while but I’ll remove it eventually.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

So. I have very little time to myself nowadays, but paradoxically have quite a lot of time sitting on trains and spent in odd moments here and there. Short of working on my novel, this time isn’t being spent in ways which bring me much joy. This is suboptimal, and more importantly doesn’t involve spacecraft in any way.

It has been suggested by several people over the course of the last year that a number of Mammotheers would like to increase the number of roleplaying games they’re playing, or would like to give it a whirl. As an experienced GM, this is something that also makes me sad.

I’m not a D&D person, but if I were to run something like Rogue Trader through a mixture of Play-By-Post and Skype, would people be interested?

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

@ EJ – I think they also handcuffed themselves to it during an anti-fracking protest, though not with a ball and chain.

@ Imaginary Petal – that is a great name! And what a relief for you both. (I’m sure you don’t need me to tell you to stay cautious and keep safe still, but a reduction in tension and being reminded is going to be welcome).

@ Sunny – the very best to you. If you can clearly identify your skills, and explain how they are relevant to your target job, you’ll be some jumps ahead of a lot of applicants, based on CVs I have seen.

I might be job hunting myself, I now discover. The beloved and I have an annual earning frenzy in the summer, returning to teach on the same 12-week course year after year (we met on the course in 2003).

Last year there was a change of management, someone put in to run the course who had little knowledge of it and who dealt with some aspects of it (IMO) poorly.

One of the longest running colleagues on the course, who had written a great deal of the materials, was bullied so badly she had a nervous breakdown (there were other issues, but the bullying we all witnessed certainly contributed) and has been hospitalised.

There was also a safeguarding issue which I raised with the manager, who denied there was a policy regarding it – which of course there was, so I emailed her the link. I asked if we could all be reminded of it at the next weekly meeting (no need to single out the guy who seemed to have been taking creepshots of students). But nothing was ever said or done about it, except I was singled out by name as having “found a policy” in an email to our bosses.

Well, at the end of the course there was the chance to give feedback on how it had gone. Lots of anxious discussions among staff about how frank they should be. The feedback forms, in the past, were to be put in a box in Reception so as to be anonymous, but this time were to be emailed directly to the manager who was running the course. I basically argued for being as frank as you can decently be, otherwise the higher management would never know what had happened, and that feedback is meant to be – has always previously been – confidential.

In any case, as I was documenting the safeguarding thing, it would be obvious it came from me anyway. So B and I gave our feedback (unsigned) to the line manager (above the course manager) and both mentioned the confidentiality aspect.

So – nothing happens until January, when the course planning starts. We heard that the same manager is going to be in charge again. Someone we know quite well in the management team rang us at home and said they were assured all the issues raised in the feedback had been dealt with and please come and work on the course again.

Then we read our emails: my husband has been offered a place on the course, but I have been vetoed.

The course manager read all our feedback and decided I am motivated by personal animus, and has vetoed me. It appears now to be on my written HR record that I am negative, critical and personally motivated.

It’s rather ironic, because by the end of the course, B and I were the only teachers still on speaking terms with the manager, unless it was strictly work related.

But if I’d like to come in and discuss my options I’m welcome to do so. (I’m 55, a zero-hours contract employee, and a cancer patient in remission, so my “options” may possibly involve the expression f*** off and die).

So – I seem to have made a tactical error, and I’m suspicious it relates to the safeguarding issue I raised. The management seems to have endorsed the bullying that went on, too.

One thing seems likely – they’re not going to get any accurate feedback next time.

So… I am rapidly looking at other courses I can apply to work on. Unfortunately there are none near us: I’d have to spend the week in London at the nearest. On the other hand, they are better paid and for longer periods, and I could spend some time with the grandsprogs. On the third other hand, what will my references be like?

On the other, other hand, my husband doesn’t want to work with that manager this summer, knowing she has vetoed me. On the fifth other hand, we need the money! On the sixth hand, we don’t want to spend the summer apart, but we can’t both leave our house and cats.

And in the seventh hand there’s a cup of tea, so I’m going to drink it now and stop fretting.

And there we are. All advice gratefully received.

Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
Imaginary Petal (formerly dhag85, trying out pronouns - they/their)
5 years ago

@bluecat

Thank you! 🙂

Sorry about your work related issues. Being punished for trying to solve problems at work – I recognize that.

Viscaria
Viscaria
5 years ago

@EJ (The Other One): I don’t even know what Rogue Trader is, but yes please. I would be very interested. Please no one judge me for my bad gaming and inability to use Skype properly!

kupo
kupo
5 years ago

My husband and I were talking last night and I brought up how I’m happy that PZ Myers has been exposing the misogyny problem in STEM fields, but that it’s frustrating that all of the fields I’ve ever been interested in studying are full of misogynists, and he made comments to the effect of “how many famous female mathematicians do you know of?” and “these fields have been boys clubs for thousands of years.” I glared at him so hard. It’s just so frustrating. I know he’s not trying to defend the way these things are, but it sounded a little like it.

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

@ kupo – Mary Somerville might be on a banknote before long.

I wonder if her appearance as a character in the film Mr Turner might have sparked a bit of interest. If you haven’t seen it, she explains a science thing about light and magnetism to two men, who have asked her to demonstrate it. Nothing at all is made of the fact that she’s a woman in a bonnet, they are blokes and this is the mid-Victorian era.

I think it may be the first time I’ve ever seen a scene of that kind.

Valentine
Valentine
5 years ago

@kat.
Thank you. It is a non-malignant tumour but they cannot get it out with surgery. They are trying to just stop it from growing and hopefully then she can get back to normal and live in remission. Cancer treatment is getting so much better now and I just hope @nequam’s dad is also getting the best.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@Viscaria:
Think Firefly crossed with Call of Cthulhu crossed with Event Horizon, but set in the Warhammer 40,000 universe. Your intrepid group of explorers, traders and renegades, equipped only with a second-hand spacecraft and a few tens of thousands of followers, voyage out into the stars where terrifying creatures dwell and the ruins of pre-human civilisations can be found.

@kupo:
On the one hand, science is full of misogynists and has been for all of its history, and I’m not going to deny that. On the other hand there’s tremendous progress nowadays on exposing that, and on using sunlight as a disinfectant. Even if we ourselves live in a difficult time, there’s hope that our daughters and granddaughters might not.

@bluecat:
That sounds awful. Those people deserve to have exactly zero good staff working for them, and by the sounds of it they’re trying hard to make that situation come about.

@Valentine:
All my best wishes for her treatment.

sunnysombrera
sunnysombrera
5 years ago

@EJ
I would be up for it too, since I love group gaming but haven’t really had the opportunity yet to join a club IRL. Shift work doesn’t help.

I feel you on the whole “not putting free time to enjoyable use” thing. I’ve had another go at a website I used to frequent which focuses a lot around dress-up avatars as well as discussion forums. The creativity is really fun. Problem is that its economy has gone apeshit and now it’s the people who are willing to spend a lot of real money on in-game currency that have all the best items. I’m not sure I’ll stick around for long. The users are nice, even though the “intelligent discussion” forum has basically been hijacked by MRAs.

@bluecat
Sounds like a nightmare. I’m sorry that happened to you and especially sorry for all the staff still having to work in those conditions. Ugh.

leftwingfox
leftwingfox
5 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention: Congratulations on the job! Have you heard of the throat spray called “Entertainer’s Secret?” I’ve heard professional voice actors recommend it when talking about coping strategies for “throat-ripper” screams and voices.

guest
guest
5 years ago

@kupo Well here are a few:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Women_mathematicians

and two years ago the field had a milestone:

http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/august/fields-medal-mirzakhani-081214.html

I’m a woman in STEM and frankly it’s not really better now than it was when I was younger (I just turned 50) and in some ways it’s a lot worse, partly because people EXPECT it to be better and therefore don’t acknowledge that it’s bad. The only really good news, as EJ has said above, is that more people are willing to talk about how badly we’re treated…but I don’t believe that necessarily means we’ll be treated any better in the future.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@ EJ

I’d be up for that, too! I don’t have any experience with Pen&Paper, but know the D&D system from Baldur’s Gate et al. and Warhammer universe from some of the recent tablet iterations of their strategy games. I’d really like to play around a bit with both.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@sunnysombrera, Viscara, Bernardo Soares:
You’d be very welcome, as would anyone else. No experience is necessary, and as always I will preferentially give space to people who haven’t roleplayed before or who haven’t played Rogue Trader before.

I don’t want to clutter up this board with stuff discussing it. Does anyone know a good place where we can have a whole bunch of threads that people can comment on to discuss the game?

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@Nequam, my dad is going in for surgery for the same sort of cancer on Tuesday. We are extraordinarily lucky in this regard – caught early, they will be using a top-of-the-line surgical robot, and the surgeon is by chance one of the top ten in the world TMJ specialists. We have caught a lot of luck; I will do what I can to send some of that your way. You too, @Valentina. <3

I have an American friend who is convinced that the Canadian health care system is terrible. He can go walk on legos 😉

@bluecat, I hope you get a good job! That's terrible circumstances, and I don't know what the job market is like around you, but you've got experience and that's worth a heck of a lot. Awful that you were tarred like that :c There are plenty of distance universities that need course co-ordinators and tutors and whatnot, I've known lots of teachers that have filled gaps in their paycheques that way. I work for Athabasca University and they're great. Take a look there?

I like the idea of a Mammoth roleplaying group! I am not much for the Warhammer settings, mind you – I find them a bit too grim and oppressive for my taste. But I have had fun with Rogue Trader in the past!

I can't promise that I wouldn't intentionally misspell it as Rouge Trader all over the place though.

EDIT – Oh, I wanted to add, I like the nickname change, Imaginary Petal! That is a good minecraft name. I like it.

BritterSweet
5 years ago

Jason, this is not the thread for that. The title even says “Roosh-Free.” Post about that somewhere else, preferably on a post that IS about him. There are quite a few.

Oh, and someone else beat me to the punch about how ironic it is that media portrays marriage as women’s greatest goal in life while in reality marriage is overall a sweeter deal for straight men in general. The rates of depression tend to be lower in married men compared to single men but higher in married women compared to single, and married men tend to be overall healthier and live longer than unmarried men due to having wives who make them see the doctor. It does indeed seem like a trap.

And it reminds me of the old sitcom/movie trope about the nagging wife, when in reality, usually the wife has to “nag” for a reason. She wouldn’t have to ask a 6th time and be upset if the husband did what he was asked to help within the first 5 times.

bluecat
bluecat
5 years ago

Rouge Trader would be quite a fun game – or a good title, at least, which is something.

Bernardo Soares
Bernardo Soares
5 years ago

@EJ

I’m not familiar with it, but we could open a Google Doc and use the chat function. It’s probably going to be useful for the further documentation of the game, anyway.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
5 years ago

@bluecat, a game about cosmetics marketing? :O I got a critical success on my foundation pitch, everyone gets a free raise to all their rolls this quarter! Sell, sell, sell!

Personal gripe moment, unrelated to the high-stakes world of makeup trading. My brother-in-law has been absolutely tormenting my nephew and niece. My sister separated from his abusive butt last summer, and he’s been laying the biggest guilt trips on the kids for every visit, three times a week. My three year old niece comes home to her mother bawling about how she wants Daddy to come live with them again – he’s using their misery to try to twist my sister’s arm into taking him back.

It’s disgusting and it blinds me with rage that he could do this, instead of protecting his kids. Sorry, no question or comment about it, i just had to vent about it a little bit. So angering.

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@Bernardo Soares:
Let’s do that. I’m unsure of how to make a Google Document universally viewable, but I’ll see what I can conjure up.

Here’s a link:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1erwx85TI21dy8kVj4GHdpkKANzdPtWTKcJfxp8qvOFo/edit?usp=sharing

@bluecat:
Re Rouge Trading: Who am I to tell you what cargo to carry, or what colour to paint the ship?

@Scildfreja:
You’d be very welcome. I am not a particular fan of the oppressive grimdark either, so I’ll be playing it down.