STOP THE PRESSES!
Everyone’s favorite pickup artist guru Roosh Valizadeh has announced that he is cancelling all of the 165 meetups in 43 countries he had planned for this coming Saturday.
I can no longer guarantee the safety or privacy of the men who want to attend on February 6, especially since most of the meetups can not be made private in time. While I can’t stop men who want to continue meeting in private groups, there will be no official Return Of Kings meetups. The listing page has been scrubbed of all locations. I apologize to all the supporters who are let down by my decision.
Huh. Should we take him at his word on this? Roosh, in addition to being a terrible person, is also a bit of a troll. It wouldn’t exactly shock me if Roosh’s alleged cancellation turned out to be nothing more than a ruse, that the meetups are still on, and that he’s simply moved the planning for his meetups out of the public eye.
[EDITED TO ADD: It looks like this is indeed what he’s doing, organizing them secretly on the Roosh V forum, now closed to outsiders, at least according to sources with accounts on the forum.][EDITED AGAIN: Here are some screenshots (not mine) of his forums showing some of the places where they’re still trying to organize meetups.]
[EDITED AGAIN 2: REDDIT BOOGALOO There’s a stickied post in the Red Pill subreddit inviting all properly credentialed red pill alpha dogs to come to these super secret alternate meetups.]
If he really has cancelled them, the question becomes: did he do it because he was genuinely afraid for the safety of himself and his fanboys? Or did he take a look at all the protests being scheduled and realize he would look foolish if, in location after location around the globe, tiny groups of Roosh fanboys faced off against big crowds of mocking feminists? Hell, maybe he realized that in a lot of the locations he announced he was going to have trouble getting even one person to show up.
Will we ever learn where the pet shop is?
Awwww, that’s a shame Rooshie-poo. I know I would have gone, had I not had more important things to do.
Like, you know, X-COM 2. And ironing my cat.
I suspect I’ve probably posted this example before, but while there were a number of reasons for the hugely gratifying implosion of the far-right British National Party from electoral threat in 2010 to barely getting more votes than Mike Buchanan in 2015, there’s general agreement that one of the main ones was the BBC’s decision to invite party leader Nick Griffin onto Question Time, their flagship political discussion programme.
Which helpfully revealed to millions of people that far from being a latterday Mussolini (or Mosley) determined to bend the country to his will by sheer force of charisma, he was in fact a sweaty, nervous buffoon who was desperately out of his depth. The BNP turned on the damage-limitation tap full blast afterwards, but it was far too late.
And I’m seeing the same thing with Roosh, who’s been all over my Facebook feed in the last couple of days in a way that he’s never been before – but it would be fair to say that the attached comments haven’t been entirely complimentary.
The meet ups are not cancelled for sure. This is just him being the child again. His childish game with the secret codes got a little too much attention so now he says oh no and ‘cancells’. That’s ll convince them! Not. -_- I think people who were thinking of going to the ones in their home towns should still go to the protest and call his bluff. But like Dave said even if they weren’t ‘cancelled’ I find it difficult to believe that many of them will have more than just the 1 person who said they would organise it in their area. How many fans can he have in Ukraine for example? Men there probably hate him the sleezy sex tourist treating their country like nothing but a shop for young women to take advantage of.
@ wetherby
That was pretty cool wasn’t it; and it was a perfect double whammy of allowing someone to condemn themselves from their own mouths and highlighting their buffoonery.
I saw a similar thing once when someone left a demonstrator speechless with “It’s not just that you’re a racist, it’s that you’re an incompetent racist”
I am utterly delighted by the fact that the violent rape advocates are fearing for their safety.
Good. How’s it feel?
@ Ledasmom
But that (fictional) kitty is already wayyy cuter and has way more worth to the world.
@Alan
From what I’ve head, xenophobia and racism is on the rise in the U.K. Is there any truth to that?
A little known fact: Roosh V is a devout Moslem. He himself has admitted that his teaching is a variation of Islam.
You do not have to believe me. Here, in his own words in his videos, disclosed that he is a Moslem. He confesses that his ideas and principles are founded on Islam and the teachings of Mohammad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ot4tDl6T-tY&t=2m12s
That explains where his “make rape legal if done on private property” idea came from, doesn’t it? Again, his words, not mine: http://www.rooshv.com/how-to-stop-rape
His own video reveals his true agenda in a moment of frustration. (So you better download and save that video before he takes it down.) So Roosh has been stealthily teaching the message of Mohammad and Allah in the guise of Men’s Right. To all the Men’s Right and Red Pill morons who support him without looking into his background and true agenda: hey, dumbasses, you are tools being used to spread Islam without knowing it.
@ dreadnought
Well, as a white guy I’m obviously not the best qualified person to comment; but there’s an obvious increase in xenophobia that’s been fuelled by the way the refugee crisis is being exploited in certain quarters.
When they discuss such matters, which tbh isn’t that often, by non white mates tell me that whilst mainstream society is getting more cool about race, the bigots are getting more active. But that’s obviously as anecdotal as it comes.
I’d agree with Alan there. Whilst I inhabit a very lefty slice of London, my experience is that the racists are becoming more visible and agitated as the background level of racism drops. Once upon a time one could express a hatred of foreigners merely by voting Tory; now one has to go to the fringes to do it.
EDIT: Apparently anti-semitism is on the rise, though.
@PI:
I always thought she looked like a Lockhorn. I think it’s the half-lidded eyes. Wasn’t that a great episode?
Dittoes here. I’m guessing he scrubbed the page. Possible explanations:
1. Another “oh shit, they’re onto us” moment.
2. Another “oh shit, they’re onto us and they’re LAUGHING at us” moment.
3. He really is scared shitless of women.
4. Or, more to the point: of men who actually LIKE women, as opposed to men who only like dominating and abusing them.
I say we don’t ignore him; I say we keep the harsh disinfectant of sunlight and laughter turned on him, and turned on full.
@StarStorm:
How is XCOM 2? And how are you, after ironing your cat?
Eh, I really don’t know what to make of this. It’s pretty clear that he never intended to have all those meetups in the first place, so their subsequent cancellation is no surprise. What he has in store next might be one really super secret meetup of some kind or other, but at this point, who cares?
Frankly, I can’t wait for this guy to fade into irrelevance. Everything about his persona feel forced and ungenuine, from his attempts at sounding intellectual by using big words that he clearly doesn’t understand to the braggadocio on display when he talks about his “success”, be it with women or in organizing poorly attended get togethers. Roosh VD is trying to coast through life by mooching off mysogynists and white supremacists. He has no shame, there is nothing he wouldn’t do for money, but he’s got no real talent or personality. Sadly, he missed his career in the porn industry. I can’t help but imagine that his pickup technique resembles this, but with more alcohol and drugs:
@Falconer
The Smug lemon personally always made me think of the Grinch.
@Alan & EJ
So generally, racism in the UK is declining. That is great to hear. I find it really disconcerting about the rise of xenophobia in the country that invented liberal democracy. What happened to the great thinkers of the Scottish Enlightenment? Wasn’t it John Stewart Mill — who I know isn’t Scottish — who argued that immigration can only be a benefit to society?
@Bina
It must have been the female boxers from Toronto. I would be terrified if a boxer called me a fucker and told me to ‘get in the ring’.
Count me on Team “The whole goddamn thing was a publicity troll from the get-go and he always intended to cancel it”
I think he knew that any “meetups” would be so abysmally attended by such utter losers that it would probably be self-destructive. However low their own self-esteem, Online they can imagine they are part of a cool crowd. Face to face meetups would shatter that illusion. “Geez, there are only 6 of us in this city and they are even bigger losers than me”. You’re playing with a real risk that a significant number of them opt-out after that.
OTOH, he knew that any publicity would generate counter publicity and give him an excuse to cancel. So, he drops this shit … and counts on the “Feminists” to give him both the attention that he wants and a “plausible” (barely .. not even but believable to this crowd of morons) reason to cancel it. Not that I’m criticizing or saying anyone “should have ignored” him. It is what it is. If there had been no reaction he would have kept trolling for one until he got it … or invented one. This whole thing was a foregone conclusion.
(speaking of lefty slices of London – Corbynista gig at the Forum in Kentish Town tonight 🙂 )
@ dreadnought
There’s probably not a country in the world that’s benefited more from immigration than the UK. I mean our entire history is one of immigration (there might be one bloke in Wales or somewhere who’s family actually arrived straight after the ice age ended, but as for the rest of us…)
Forgetting the cultural benefits for a moment, it’s also axiomatic that even the most recent immigrants make a net financial contribution to the country. So even the most hard hearted rationalist should be in favour.
There’s actually a fixed pattern to all this.
1. “Argh, keep them out”
2. “Well they’re here now but I’m still not happy about it”
3. “Yey, another gold medal/business success/record from that fine example of what it means to be British!”
Seen it with West Indians, Asians, Jews, Huguenots…..
All the current situation means is that in 20 years time it’ll be some self made Syrian millionaire saying “you’re fired!” on that TV show.
Of course, be nice if we could stop all the racism in the meantime and just cut to the chase.
So’d I, if only because I don’t know how to box. I suspect that’s Roosh’s problem, too. He’s only good at one thing, and that’s exaggerating his own prowess at everything he does. (Which isn’t bloody much.)
Meanwhile, it’s not exactly a well-kept secret that he’s mainly a pro at Epic Fail. I mean, why else all the couch-surfing…in Eastern Europe, of all cheap places? Can’t he afford even a fleabag hotel in Poznan? Why hold his “neomasculinity” shindigs in shitty little back rooms at greasy spoons in Montréal and cheap motels in Mississauga? Because he hasn’t got the money to do better…why else?
And why hasn’t he got the money? Because nearly nobody is buying. The few guys who are, are such cowardly sad sacks that they won’t show their faces in public. That’s what makes his whole “coming out of the shadows” schtick so laughable. These guys are troglodytes. The shadows are their natural element. Coming out into the light of day would only get them laughed at, as it does him. And if you want to be a Great Pretender of Neomasculinity, you can’t afford to let people see the string-puller behind your curtain.
Once again, Margaret Atwood’s adage is proving all too true. These guys aren’t afraid for their physical safety so much as they are of the ignominy of being bested by a bunch of women.
@ opposablethumbs
It will always be the Town & Country to me. 🙂
But of course! 🙂
@opposablethumbs:
Alas, I’m gaming at my sister’s house, I won’t be able to make it. I hope you have a good evening.
I don’t understand the point of these independent meetups. I thought he was going to Skype in or something – they were just random people getting together at the same time in different locations? To do what? Shuffle their feet and mumble uncomfortably at one another?
I picture it going like this:
Random Guy 1: Do you know where the pet shop is?
Random Guy 2: This is it. Oh wait no, sorry… umm… it’s right here.
Random Guy 1: Ok cool.
Random Guy 2: Cool.
*silence*
Random Guy 2: So you hate women?
Random Guy 1: Oh yeah, for sure. You?
Random Guy 2: Oh yeah, totally.
Random Guy 1: Cool. Me too.
*long uncomfortable silence*
*tumbleweed blows past*
*somewhere, in the distance, a dog barks*