UPDATE: Roosh has announced that he is cancelling all the meetups. For more see my post here.
Numerous We Hunted the Mammoth operatives have informed me that Roosh Valizadeh, the pickup artist and rape legalization proponent who is apparently trying to start a second career as a “neomasculine” cult leader of sorts, is planning dozens of meetups around the world, from Birmingham, Alabama to Taiwan, all scheduled for next Saturday.
While the meetups aren’t literally secret, Roosh is organizing them like a CIA operative planning covert ops. Or at least like a ten-year-old boy playing secret agent.
On his blog, he tells his fans that in each city where a meetup is planned,
Hosts have been instructed to wait at the meeting point from 8:00-8:20pm before moving on to the final location. If you arrive at the meeting point at 8:21pm, you will miss the meetup. Arriving on time within the window is absolutely paramount.
Ok, Secret Roosh Spy Army: Write “be on time” on a post-it note. Memorize it. Then eat the post-it note.
If you find you cannot memorize these instructions the first time, prepare and eat as many post-it notes are necessary until you can recite the instructions out loud without referring to your notes. NOTE: Do not actually recite the instructions out loud, as feminist spies may be lurking nearby.
To identify your fellow tribesmen, ask the following question to a man you suspect is there for the meetup: “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” If you are asked this question, answer in the affirmative: “Yes, it’s right here.”
Ah, the old “where’s the pet shop” ploy, one of the all time spy classics!
You can then introduce yourself and get details about where to proceed at 8:20. If you ask someone for the pet shop and they appear confused or actually try to direct you to a real pet shop, they’re not there for the meetup.
If the person you have spoken to looks like they might be a secret feminist, and giggles at you, YOUR MISSION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED! Shout “abort, abort! The pet shop has a sale on canaries!’
This will alert any other Roosh agents in the area that your cover has been blown. Flee the scene immediately, preferably with your hands waving in the air above your head, shrieking.
In another post, Roosh answers some questions that have come up about his super seekrit meetups.
First off: There will be no girls allowed!
Q: Can I bring a female friend, girlfriend, lover, or wife?
A: Absolutely not. This meeting is for heterosexual men only.Q: Can I come if I’m a homosexual or transsexual?
A: No. This is a meeting for heterosexual men only.Q: What should we do if a pretty girl shows up and begs to be a fly on the wall?
A: Get her number and then tell her to buzz off. Do not allow women to attend the meeting.
Do you see what he did there in the last answer? The bit about buzzing off? BECAUSE FLIES BUZZ.
Q: What if crazy feminists show up?
A: Record them with your camera, upload the footage to Dropbox, and then send it to me at [email protected] afterwards so we can tear them up. If accosted during the meetup, travel to the final venue in pairs or triplets using an indirect route so the final location is not compromised (make sure you are not followed).
I’m sorry, I have to post this:
Secret Roosh Agents need to be constantly alert!
Q: Have the hosts been vetted? What if they are a secret feminist agent?
A: Again, this has never happened before, so the risk is minuscule. If you remain anxious or fearful of green-haired female activists or male feminists, simply don’t give out your last name or company name during the meetup.
Alternately, and I’m not sure why Roosh didn’t suggest this, give a fake name. Some suggestions, mostly borrowed from here:
- Bo Nerr
- Cole Onnick
- Dick C. Normus
- Dougie Style
- Homer Sexual (Note: May get you kicked out of the meetup. See above.)
- Lou Stools
- Max E. Pad
- Frank Lee Underwhelmedbythesefakenames
And then there’s the question that every new organization faces:
Q: Is this a white nationalist meetup?
A: No. This is a meetup for men of all races and backgrounds who read ROK and my blog. The Tribal Meeting is not a white nationalist organization.
And one more little clarification:
Q: Do permanent tribes have a consistent message that ensures purity of neomasculine thought during the meetings?
A: There is no universal program. Each tribe is encouraged to interpret neomasculinity to suit their local and immediate needs.
ALL HAIL ROOSH PROPHET OF NEOMASCULINITY
Oops, almost forgot this one!
Q: Are you concerned that agents within the various Alphabet Soup groups (CIA, FBI, NSA, CID, NCIS, ETC) may try to infiltrate the tribal meetup?
A: The tribe is apolitical and does not attempt to challenge governmental authority, so I don’t believe we’ll be targeted for infiltration. That said, keep an eye on possible agent provocateurs who advocate for illegal activities out of the blue.
For example, this man, who has been known to advocate making rape legal on private property.
Oh, and bring your cameras!
Up to now, the enemy has been able to exert their power by isolating us and attacking with shrieking mobs, but we’ll be able to neutralize that tactic by amassing in high numbers come February 6. I will exact furious retribution upon anyone who challenges you in public on that date (remember to record them).
As it turns out, there’s a meetup in Chicago that I could make it to without too much trouble. I plan to attend disguised as a pet store.
How exactly would I pull this off? Well, this woman accidentally cosplayed a hotel, so I think I could manage.
Stay safe everyone! And stock up on fake mustaches.
“As it turns out, there’s a meetup in Chicago that I could make it to without too much trouble. I plan to attend disguised as a pet store.”
LOL! The whole post was hilarious but those lines stood out to me.
Hoping that someone is able to infiltrate at least one of the secret meetups and film the events. The lols would be epic.
Thought Roosh was a White Supremacist wanna be so I’m kind of surprised that he’s opening up these meetups to all races of men.
A. Nuran:
Between the Cover Oregon debacle and the tantrum by those rancher guys, I think my adopted state should be spared any new, newsworthy advances for a while. :/
@ sparkalipoo
It’s an interesting topic but there are people far more qualified than I to talk about it.
I do have a bit of a theory though. I’m not a subscriber to the “it’s all about class ergo feminism is irrelevant, we should all be egalitarian” thing. But maybe the fact working class men didn’t enjoy total privilege is a factor. They understood, perhaps intuitively, what it felt like to have a societal group with more privilege (the wealthy) and maybe there was more of an “we need to muck in together to survive” ethos that helped them work with women.
I think a lot of MRA stuff is driven by an unjustified sense of entitlement. Working class northerners didn’t have that, they were from a culture where no one granted you anything and you had to struggle to get by.
Ha, I’m sounding like the “Four Yorkshiremen” sketch.
“We ‘ad nowt but a bloody good beating; and we were grateful just for that”
Matriarchy in the working class?
I’ve never read this study I’m thinking of, and a quick look at Google yielded no results for me.
But I’ve heard of a study from the 1980s that found that wealthy women have less power than they appear to have. Everything looks good, but their husbands — who either make all the money or make much more money than they do — don’t see their wives as being all that valuable to them. The study didn’t discuss couples who were both independently wealthy — at least, not as far as I know.
This same study also found that working-class women have more power than they appear to have. Yes, they struggle. But both they and their husbands know that the family might fall apart without them. And as Alan mentioned, sometimes the men will turn their paychecks over to their wives, who then dole out the appropriate amount for everything and everyone. The husband will get a certain amount back for his pocket money.
I think that it really depends on the culture and the individual. A sensitive wealthy man might value his wife very much. Certainly some kings have spoken highly of their wives. And an insensitive working-class man might value his wife very little, despite the fact that he knows that his life would fall apart if she left or died.
A certain malignant fraction of the 1 percent tries to separate us from each other: sex vs. sex, race vs. race, the wealthy vs. the poor, nation vs. nation, and so on. But when we work together, we can get so much more done — maybe even save this planet. May it be so.
@ Patricia Kayden:
I haven’t read enough of his writings to glean that he’s any more than a garden-variety racist in his preferences for women; but I can tell you this: If he is a white supremacist, it’s wishful thinking – because he has Armenian and Iranian parentage.
In fact, there’s quite a funny thread somewhere on Stormfront where a bunch of Ukranian and Russian neo-Nazis get all indignant about his “defiling” sex-tourism in those countries, given his non-white heritage.
I feel kind of sorry for them. They’re so pathetic and they don’t even know it. It’s giving me a little bit of second-hand embarassment.
@alan
Well that’s a good enough reason for me! They’ll hopefully take over the world some day along with the dolphins like in that Simpsons episode 😀
So I saw a Hawaii location on the list and remember seeing that globe in the image he provided. I haven’t been to Pearlridge Center in a long time so my memory is a little fuzzy, but I think that globe may be directly above two escalators.
So is someone going to be riding up and down the escalators repeatedly asking men about a petshop?
@ valentine
The number of times I’ve said “
” with the Sea Shepherd crowd. 🙂
Hopefully I’ve made up for it a bit by just posting some links at the behest of my own little eco-terrorist.
ETA: technically killer whales are dolphins [nerd mode: off]
There’s actually a pet store a block or two away from the Chicago meetup location. I hope these guys don’t get confused and end up there! 😉
Is “tribe” new Rooshian slang? Is Roosh, uh, “borrowing” ideas from Robert Bly’s Iron John shtick now? What’s next, drum circles?
So many questions. And 1990s flashbacks.
Rabid Rabbit: The hashtag he started was trending on Twitter earlier. Last I checked, the Toronto, Edmonton, Vancouver, Calgary, and Winnipeg mayors had all joined Ottawa’s stance. I haven’t seen Montreal, Surrey, Windsor, or Victoria weighing in, but we’re getting there.
It kinda warms the heart, I’ve gotta say.
More aliases:
Phil McCrackeb
Ben Dover
Mike Hunt
Mike Hawk
I.C. Weiner
Dick Hertz
I.P. Freeley
Phil U. Ranis
Stu Pidazz
Pete O’File
Eric Shin
Les Beein
Dixon Kuntz
Kent Gitov
Howie Ditter
Art Watts
E. Jack Yolette
Lee Keyhole
Dix Zucker
Jesse Turrout
Mai Balzitch
Hugh Jaynis
M. Royd
Moe Lester
Hersh E. Skwertz
Jack Sweeny
Re: matriarchy in the working class
I find it highly ironic that studies “show” that the less power a group has, the more power women have in this group. Of course, the decisive factor here is that women have more power relative to their husbands, but that certainly doesn’t translate into “more power”.
That’s not power, that’s horrible pressure on both partners. It might also pressurize people into staying with abusive partners “for the kids”, which of course would affect disproportionately more women. Women in the working class have historically had to fight for their rights not only together with socialist/communist groups, but also against those very same groups, who dismissed their struggle as “side contradiction”. At the same time, they also had (and, as we all know, still have) to struggle with middle class feminists. Not to mention non-white women.
I get that bourgeois culture has historically shackled women much more in their everyday behaviour, but it’s not all culture.
Hello.
> kupo & Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Thank you very much for the information. As it is not surprising for Paris, Nantes is a bit strange (big city, sure, but there are bigger cities like Lyon or Marseille).
On a side note, the gather point are at statues of prominent or symbolic women (Anne de Bretagne was a prominent queen, and Marianne (the lion is at the foot of the pillar where Marianne stands) is of course the symbol of the republic, here). Guess they are ironic about that…
And for another fake name, what about Bob J. Low ? This name could be used to obtain an interview, it seems.
Have a nice day.
There is a meeting 10 minutes from my house. Maybe I’ll take this excuse to get out of the city for the weekend
The Birmingham, AL location is also just down the road from an actual pet store.
The tribe thing cracks me up. They’re finally realizing they’ve devolved back into cavemen, Though I thought of a great name for them:
A Tribe Called Queef
That totally makes MY morning.
And here’s some news that should help make all of yours:
So, it looks like Rooshie’s little ticket gambit was a scam. He won’t be allowed to set foot in Australia.
Roosh was never going to Australia. Even in the original post about the meetups he said he was going to Washington DC (and I doubt he was telling the truth about that, either, but maybe he was in town). He only said Australia once people started protesting because it got him the most social media tweets and reaction.
This is all this is, people – 3-7 guys meeting in a bar or cafe to discuss how alpha they are.
http://tribalmeeting.co/about/
That’s it. No rallies, no vetting, no agenda, no video, no “movement”.
Well, it’s definitely gotten the attention of folks on my FBriends list. The Homewood O’Henry’s and police have been notified, there will be vocal protestors….wish I could be there.
Did you check to see if the location has been changed? They have mostly switched to email-only invites, so you will probably be protesting nobody.
Good excuse to hold a general “no to misogyny” rally, but don’t think you’re disrupting the big secret meeting because it was always a small get together to drink a beer and talk and because they probably aren’t showing up there anyway.
Did you check to see if the location has been changed? They have mostly switched to email-only invites, so you will probably be protesting nobody.
Good excuse to hold a general “no to misogyny” rally, but don’t think you’re disrupting the big secret meeting because it was always a small get together to drink a beer and talk and because they probably aren’t showing up there anyway.
Here in Vancouver Canada, we’re going for the opposite of covert. There is a full on welcome committee planned: