UPDATE: Roosh has announced that he is cancelling all the meetups. For more see my post here.
Numerous We Hunted the Mammoth operatives have informed me that Roosh Valizadeh, the pickup artist and rape legalization proponent who is apparently trying to start a second career as a “neomasculine” cult leader of sorts, is planning dozens of meetups around the world, from Birmingham, Alabama to Taiwan, all scheduled for next Saturday.
While the meetups aren’t literally secret, Roosh is organizing them like a CIA operative planning covert ops. Or at least like a ten-year-old boy playing secret agent.
On his blog, he tells his fans that in each city where a meetup is planned,
Hosts have been instructed to wait at the meeting point from 8:00-8:20pm before moving on to the final location. If you arrive at the meeting point at 8:21pm, you will miss the meetup. Arriving on time within the window is absolutely paramount.
Ok, Secret Roosh Spy Army: Write “be on time” on a post-it note. Memorize it. Then eat the post-it note.
If you find you cannot memorize these instructions the first time, prepare and eat as many post-it notes are necessary until you can recite the instructions out loud without referring to your notes. NOTE: Do not actually recite the instructions out loud, as feminist spies may be lurking nearby.
To identify your fellow tribesmen, ask the following question to a man you suspect is there for the meetup: “Do you know where I can find a pet shop?” If you are asked this question, answer in the affirmative: “Yes, it’s right here.”
Ah, the old “where’s the pet shop” ploy, one of the all time spy classics!
You can then introduce yourself and get details about where to proceed at 8:20. If you ask someone for the pet shop and they appear confused or actually try to direct you to a real pet shop, they’re not there for the meetup.
If the person you have spoken to looks like they might be a secret feminist, and giggles at you, YOUR MISSION HAS BEEN COMPROMISED! Shout “abort, abort! The pet shop has a sale on canaries!’
This will alert any other Roosh agents in the area that your cover has been blown. Flee the scene immediately, preferably with your hands waving in the air above your head, shrieking.
In another post, Roosh answers some questions that have come up about his super seekrit meetups.
First off: There will be no girls allowed!
Q: Can I bring a female friend, girlfriend, lover, or wife?
A: Absolutely not. This meeting is for heterosexual men only.Q: Can I come if I’m a homosexual or transsexual?
A: No. This is a meeting for heterosexual men only.Q: What should we do if a pretty girl shows up and begs to be a fly on the wall?
A: Get her number and then tell her to buzz off. Do not allow women to attend the meeting.
Do you see what he did there in the last answer? The bit about buzzing off? BECAUSE FLIES BUZZ.
Q: What if crazy feminists show up?
A: Record them with your camera, upload the footage to Dropbox, and then send it to me at [email protected] afterwards so we can tear them up. If accosted during the meetup, travel to the final venue in pairs or triplets using an indirect route so the final location is not compromised (make sure you are not followed).
I’m sorry, I have to post this:
Secret Roosh Agents need to be constantly alert!
Q: Have the hosts been vetted? What if they are a secret feminist agent?
A: Again, this has never happened before, so the risk is minuscule. If you remain anxious or fearful of green-haired female activists or male feminists, simply don’t give out your last name or company name during the meetup.
Alternately, and I’m not sure why Roosh didn’t suggest this, give a fake name. Some suggestions, mostly borrowed from here:
- Bo Nerr
- Cole Onnick
- Dick C. Normus
- Dougie Style
- Homer Sexual (Note: May get you kicked out of the meetup. See above.)
- Lou Stools
- Max E. Pad
- Frank Lee Underwhelmedbythesefakenames
And then there’s the question that every new organization faces:
Q: Is this a white nationalist meetup?
A: No. This is a meetup for men of all races and backgrounds who read ROK and my blog. The Tribal Meeting is not a white nationalist organization.
And one more little clarification:
Q: Do permanent tribes have a consistent message that ensures purity of neomasculine thought during the meetings?
A: There is no universal program. Each tribe is encouraged to interpret neomasculinity to suit their local and immediate needs.
ALL HAIL ROOSH PROPHET OF NEOMASCULINITY
Oops, almost forgot this one!
Q: Are you concerned that agents within the various Alphabet Soup groups (CIA, FBI, NSA, CID, NCIS, ETC) may try to infiltrate the tribal meetup?
A: The tribe is apolitical and does not attempt to challenge governmental authority, so I don’t believe we’ll be targeted for infiltration. That said, keep an eye on possible agent provocateurs who advocate for illegal activities out of the blue.
For example, this man, who has been known to advocate making rape legal on private property.
Oh, and bring your cameras!
Up to now, the enemy has been able to exert their power by isolating us and attacking with shrieking mobs, but we’ll be able to neutralize that tactic by amassing in high numbers come February 6. I will exact furious retribution upon anyone who challenges you in public on that date (remember to record them).
As it turns out, there’s a meetup in Chicago that I could make it to without too much trouble. I plan to attend disguised as a pet store.
How exactly would I pull this off? Well, this woman accidentally cosplayed a hotel, so I think I could manage.
Stay safe everyone! And stock up on fake mustaches.
@ ej
I can’t see his actual realtime tweets but there’s like a web page that shows older ones and he’s got some maps up and jokes about sneaking in by watercraft.
My theory now is that this whole thing is just a scam to generate more social media hits than Milo.
When nobody turns up, except protesters, he’ll announce “haha, fooled you all” and make out this is some sort of genius piece of manipulation on his part.
Alan, exactly.
It’s a no-lose situation for him.
If anyone shows up, he wins because people show up.
If there are protests, he wins because he is important enough to protest.
(Also, new people to do the 2 minute hate on for his followers)
If no one shows up, either it was a joke or (more likely) – he changed it to super secret meetings and there was huge turnout but “the stupid SJWs” bought the fake out.
Remember, this is a guy who trumpeted being able to find somewhere to speak to 40 people in a city with millions of inhabitants was a major victory against the forces trying to silence him.
Outright mockery about how desperate he’s become is the only reasonable response.
@Alan
I can’t say I’m surprised that he’s that petty. I almost feel bad for the guys who don’t know that this is a social media stunt and show up any way, but then I remember that they support Roosh and I don’t feel so bad any more.
So, if this is what Roosh does to get clicks, what’s Milo going to do in response?
@ Newt
It’s a really fascinating area of discussion. One of the best people I heard speak about this was Les Dawson. As well as being a very funny comedian he was also a very clever man. He was once talking about the popularity of ‘mother in law’ jokes.
His theory was that they were a recognition of the important role women played in working class northern families. Women had to work but also take care of the family. He also grew up in a generation where women had played an important role in the Home Front during the war; supporting families whilst the men were away.
It was very common in the north for women to take care of all major decisions and finances. Men would routinely hand over their wage packets to their wives.
I think where this very much differs from the MRA view is that there’s no actual hostility or resentment towards women. His jokes may have been a bit groan worthy, but they weren’t nasty. Unlike MRA ‘humour’ women could laugh at them too.
They were an almost poignant commentary on the realities of working class life and the hardships women faced. Raising families and working in mills. There was a recognition that women were in charge but necessarily so. That’s not to say women had it easy of course. They may have taken care or the purse strings but they weren’t splashing out on bon bons; they were keeping a family fed and clothed on limited resources.
I think where that attitude differs from the present day one is that men might joke about their wives but there was still a sense of gratitude and appreciation for a real situation whereas MRAs display resentment about a perceived but false reality.
I think there has been a lot of more recent commentary on this from working class feminists so I bet theres some interesting, and more informative, writing out there.
@ ej
I don’t want to link to the web page that shows the tweets in case it optimises SEO for him or something, but someone more techno literate than I may wish to sample some of the ones aimed at Milo and Roosh’s obsessions with graphs to get an idea of what’s going on.
Is that why his posture is so bad? That round-shouldered hunch screams “geeky teen AD&D master,” not “proud manly man.”
@AsAboveSoBelow,
You picked the wrong crowd for that joke.
I think MRAs should think about “seasteading” .
Imagine the awesomeness of a lot of self-declared “straight” dudes on a boat with no women for miles in any direction….
I can see Roosh getting on board with that….
@Orion: I’m sorry, no offense meant. I’ve been known to dabble in the dark AD&D arts myself. Was trying to think of a comparison Doosh would hate. Thanks.
I just saw Facebook comments on a local news outlet’s story about the Rooshapolooza in my city. It reminds me of the reactions when I explain the manosphere to someone for the first time, which is just utter incredulity and disgust. Score one humanity!
@alan
Completely off topic but why shouldn’t we call killer whales orcas?
katz
I’d love to read your story.
Alan Robertshaw
Indeed, this is the origin of ‘maudlin’; Mary Magdalen is often portrayed as crying, so her name, or a variation thereof, came to mean excessively sad or weepy.
Another bit of press coverage, courtesy of the CBC: Roosh V and his views not welcome in Ottawa, Mayor Jim Watson tweets
Meanwhile, back in the north…
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/return-of-kings-not-welcome-in-ottawa-jim-watson-tweets-1.3429956
@ valentine
Because they’ve got the coolest name in the ocean! 🙂
(When we finally decipher cetacean languages that’s what it will turn out they’ve been saying to us)
It’s actually a rather clever ploy. By making entrance to the meeting all “Secret Squirrel” like this, if no one shows up it’s not because no one showed up it’s because their secret meet was infiltrated or some such nonsense.
@ dalillama
Cheers for that. I always like to learn one new thing each day, so that’s today’s quota sorted.
(I don’t vet these things very closely so feel free to tell me anything. I spent several years believing dogs couldn’t look up; despite owning a dog)
Of course. I don’t want to be accused of attempted murder!
If you see a lady with rainbow coloured hair, come and say hi. Or something about pet shops.
I’ll do that!
Awesome! I’ve set up a forwarding email if you want to talk offsite: [email protected].
Oops, I just read back a page and realised that Bina has already posted the petition for Scotland. Sorry for the repost! Thanks for all the support, guys! 🙂
@lightcastle
I agree, I’m beginning to think this is all just PR for this bozo with very little actual substance, and no matter which way it goes, he’ll see it as a win. That kinda chaps my hide, but at the same time, if he genuinely believes that ANY publicity is good publicity, then he’s even more pathetic than I thought. And that’s saying something.
So can I.
And I can see a hurricane looming, and them not able to change course, because they’re such manly manly menz and all…
@Alan Robertshaw
I don’t feel kind of weird about the whole the working class have a matriarchy. On one hand I do think wealthier women have more restrictive gender roles than working class women but on the other hand as a working class women, I worry that it ignores the sexism working class women have to deal with and the sexism within working class communities (I realize that the UK is different than the US but nothing you said made me think that being working class is completely dissimilar to being working class in the US)
It would be like this but a lot less endearing.