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Why do women work when they could just be living off some dude, confused MGTOW wonders

Well that's no way to find a husband!
Well that’s no way to find a husband!

Over in the Men Going Their Own Way subreddit, one recent convert to the MGTOW philosophy admits that there is one thing about the females that’s really baffling.

Namely, why do any of them work, when they could just use their magic hoo-has to snag some poor dude and live off of him, lying on the couch watching Jerry Springer amidst a pile of bon-bon wrappers?

[H]ow does MGTOW explain working women? Why do women work low or pseudo status positions for employers that are primarily public facing? I feel like the women who work at Waffle House / Starbucks / whatever probably have a more consistently stressful time of things than I do working a STEM job, they’re paid less, and they’re burning SMV time working a plebian job.

Why do women work low and pseudo status positions like these? How does MGTOW explain women who opt in to these arrangements when they could likely bf/marry/B.D.Govt their way to a less stressful life? 

In case you’re not intimately familiar with misogyny-speak, SMV stands for “Sexual Market Value,” which, these dudes believe, starts declining for women after they hit the ripe old age of 25 or so and start getting all old and ugly. And “B.D.Govt” means “Big Daddy Government,” always ready to help a girl out with some of that sweet, sweet welfare cash.

Happily, the subreddit’s regulars are more than willing to mansplain the puzzling fact of women having jobs.

A fellow called NormanDaNubcaek has a whole long list of reasons.

-They may have squandered their childhood/teen years, already putting them at a disadvantage to serious students

-They don’t want to put in the initial effort getting the proper training (Think instant vs delayed gratification)

-STEM actually requires critical thinking skills

-The job, while perhaps stressful, is regular and simple (more repetitive work vs less work that is more complex)

-Their jobs already have a lot of women, so they just join the pack, or other women recommend them to join

-They already have massive debt from a garbage degree and can’t afford to go back to school

-They used to be supported by a man, but now have to earn their own living until the next guy comes around.

Lostapwbm has a somewhat more detailed explanation, and one that is slightly more rooted in consensus reality, if not always in the rules of grammar.

“Poor women have always had to work,” he writes.

Housewife is typically a role that only the wife of a successful or frugal man, and feminism is a vanity project of rich white women.

So why can’t these Starbucks ladies “bf/marry their way out” of the working world? First, he explains, there’s the problem of man-access.

[T]hey don’t have access to a man of sufficiently higher economic status that she can go from working woman to housewife/lady of the house.

And then of course there is the problem of these women being such stuck up snooty you-know-whats that they can’t appreciate the perfectly decent men right there under their nose ISN’T THAT RIGHT KIMBERLY SOME DAY YOU’LL REALIZE I WAS THERE ALL ALONG WE WERE MEANT TO BE oh whoops.

A lot of women aren’t attracted to the type of man who would lift her out of her lower economic status. He’s boring/lame/has no game. He just wants to move up his job, pay his bills, and basically live a drama-free life.

Well, ok, but what about living off of Big Daddy G?

Women dependent on the government (B.D. Govt as you put it) are in that category of drama-lovers. Three kids by two guys, ex-boyfriends are drug addicts/dealers, whatever you prefer, but the takeaway is these women don’t want a less stressful life because they emotionally feed on that drama.

Wordjedi agrees that these Starbucks baristas are a bunch of stuck up rom-com lovers holding out for some imaginary perfect dude but ha ha the joke’s on them — if they sleep with too many Mr. Right-Nows while waiting for Mr. Right, they’ll get so burned out on dick that something something cats box of wine.

Yeah, I’m having a little trouble summarizing this one. You try:

Remember that women still flock to romcom movies in droves. They still really think mating is equal, that two people who were meant to be together tritely run together through a meadow and embrace.

Until she finds her perfect six figure hunk, a girl’s gotta have some random stiff dick in her now and then, right? Especially when she’s had a few drinks so has an excuse not to give a fuck? ====> hookup culture.

Unfortunately, people give less and less of an (emotional) fuck for each random hookup. Bye bye, perfect romance. She’s bored with dick by the time she meets him, if she ever does. ====> box wine + cats + Starbucks barista 4-evah

The explanaiton proffered by good_man_gone is if anything even less cogent. He starts out by suggesting that any women you see working just weren’t pretty enough to score themselves the high-quality beta bux.

“I never in my life have seen a perfect ten flipping burgers for 7$ /hour,” he declares, with an almost audible wink.

But then he goes on to suggest that almost any gal — even those who are perhaps not that pretty — can find a man dumb enough to marry her up or at least buy her a couple of drinks at closing time amirite fellas?

And still there is plenty of guys out there who will happily marry the 3s or 4s and give them money. Smv is key here. Better looks = more free stuff and money. But fugly chicks get free drinks too you know.

I have to admit I was guilty of that in the past. You know when the pub is about to close and u are hammered and suddenly your brain tells you “go ahead buy her a drink, yeah the fat small chick over there do it”

I guess the real lesson here is to never ask MGTOWs for an explanation of anything.

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Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ dhag

But might they end up becoming some sort of knob-ility?

EJ (The Other One)
EJ (The Other One)
8 years ago

Having a quiet Monday morning in the office, Alan?

Epsilon
Epsilon
8 years ago
Reply to  dhag85

He should have a strong, trustworthy first name like Dick or a last name like Dickens.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ EJ

Ha, that obvious eh? 🙂

MissEB47
MissEB47
8 years ago
dhag85
8 years ago

@Alan

All I know is the leader should be a functioning member of society.

Should we stop now? :p

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ dhag

Well, I’ve considered your argument and you don’t seem to have fallen into any sort of phallus-y.

dhag85
8 years ago

@Alan

Whew! I tend to blow my load a little early, but I’m happy to hear that.

EDIT: In retrospect I’m not very proud of this one.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ dhag

Don’t worry, I was just about to say to misseb47 that I liked her last picture but I preferred her ‘prior pic’. :-/

MissEB47
MissEB47
8 years ago

Alan.

I was going to add those other gifs in originally put I could not get them to work at first, so once I got them working I edited them in. 😀 I think I lost that one in the process. Don’t worry, here it is!!

http://replygif.net/i/531.gif

Dhag85-“In retrospect I’m not very proud of this one.”

And so you should be! LOL!

Anyway, good night all! It is 11pm in Aus, so I am off to bed. 🙂

dhag85
8 years ago

@MissEB47

Good night! 🙂

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

@ misseb47

Night night.

Patricia Kayden
Patricia Kayden
8 years ago

@Lea: “Love and sex are not things only the young, thin and rich get to have in their lives.”

Exactly. I would add to this that love and sex are not the purview of only one race or of a particular sexual orientation since the MRAs tend to be racist and homophobic.

katz
8 years ago

Walter went into politics because he wanted to make a deferens.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
8 years ago

Yeah, but you can see at a glans why his ideas won’t work.

Lea
Lea
8 years ago

I love this thread.
*throws confetti*

Falconer
Falconer
8 years ago

It

got

BETTER.

Joel
Joel
8 years ago

And remember these are the guys that think they automatically deserve a woman just for existing, they are the heroes of their own story. So for them to complain about the rom-com culture when they buy into it is hypocritical at best.

isidore13
isidore13
8 years ago

Okay, I have caught up now and read about Walter’s version of the cockocracy, and I totally agree Walter is preparing to write some sort of novel-length small penis humiliation porno and just… like… bouncing ideas off us because… reasons? Or possibly he knew he could count on Alan and dhag to give him all the puns he would need?

dhag85
8 years ago

I wish Walter would just beat it.

At first I thought he was funny, although a bit stiff, but now he just rubs me the wrong way.

msexceptiontotherule
msexceptiontotherule
8 years ago

Walter writing a porno about small penis humiliation is still better than the guy who was messaging any and every domme he could in order to ask them if they would be willing to arrange a kidnapping-torture-rape session where he was the intended victim/target/etc….I mean as far as possible ‘gotcha’ scenarios go, the former is less likely to result in criminal charges than the latter.

Paradoxical Intention
8 years ago

dhag85 | February 1, 2016 at 1:20 pm
I wish Walter would just beat it.

I’m just going to leave this here:

http://d.justpo.st/media/images/2016/01/22/are-you-addicted-to-masturbation-reach-out-to-me-and-we-can-beat-it-together-jesus-1453482726.jpg

(Yes, this is an actual anti-masturbation group’s ad to get people to stop masturbating. They also had another one that almost made me pee myself when they appealed to young men to “not marry a woman who has rung the Devil’s Doorbell” or “self-raped her Sin Cave”, all gross phrasing aside, it was hilarious.)

dhag85
8 years ago

@PI

What. The. Fuck.

Scildfreja
Scildfreja
8 years ago

@PI

“Devil’s Doorbell” is an awesome band name

And, ugh, can Walter and all of these weird puritans go away already :c

Paradoxical Intention
8 years ago

dhag85 | February 1, 2016 at 3:01 pm
@PI

What. The. Fuck.

It’s not gay if you’re beating it with Jesus!