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Women will soon have to offer threesomes to get any male attention, Red Piller predicts

More prophetic than we thought?
More prophetic than we thought?

On a somewhat lighter note than my last post, here is a lesson in, er, economics from the Red Pill subreddit.

pcartel

Yeah, I’m not sure that “logical” is the word you’re looking for there, champ.

If this screenshot is blurry — someone told me they were having problems with this — here’s the text:

thebears1986 67 points 1 year ago 

Women used to maintain a pussy cartel. To get any pussy you had to get married. Men want pussy so they got married. The cartel broke down a bit and women started giving access to pussy after engagement. Then the effort was lowered some more and the couple only had to be “going steady”. Next was “in a committed relationship” and eventually the “3 date rule”. Today you just swipe right on a smartphone.

Women currently sell into a hyper-competitive sex market where once they were buyers with a huge upper hand. The market is flooded and prices have dropped to $0.00. Gone are the days where they could demand any sort of commitment in exchange for access. Women still want men so they provide extra services to the men to compete for attention. Naked pics are extra services they use to keep up with the many women competing for the man they want. Either they send the pics or the guy moves on to the women who will.

I think the next major innovation will be women grouping together to offer threesomes to men in exchange for attention. Once naked pics become normalized they will have to do something. This is the next logical step.

H/T — I think someone on the Blue Pill subreddit linked to this recently; I can’t find the post

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Kirbywarp
Kirbywarp
5 years ago

@Epsilon:

I think I’m starting to realize that women can’t ever “win” with MRAs because women aren’t the thing MRAs care about. “Feminism” it big scary quotes is the enemy; women are just the faces and bodies of it. Good Women are good because they are against “Feminism,” and Bad Women are bad because they are for it.

On the one hand, it’s kind of obvious. On the other hand, it explains a lot. If a woman is a feminist, or not explicitly anti-feminist, they’ll find some reason to hate her because they hate what they think she represents.

Kinda nice to know that some of their fears of the Big Bad Feminism infesting everything they know and love with the idea that women are people are legit. ^_^

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@Linkx

MRWimps also ignore the pertinent issue that women don’t have to prove that the child support is going to the children, instead of, say, luxury purses. Too many truly selfish women view their children as cash machines.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

The phrase “pussy cartel” is reminding me of the card game Pit, where you trade cards in a simulation of commodities trading. I should really stop trying to imagine what the Red Pill edition of Pit would be. The modern version of Pit includes cocoa. I’ll think about that instead.

LinkxZeldaFan
LinkxZeldaFan
5 years ago

@Epsilon “MRWimps also ignore the pertinent issue that women don’t have to prove that the child support is going to the children, instead of, say, luxury purses. Too many truly selfish women view their children as cash machines.”

I’ve seen that and it’s a horrible thing. Which is why I don’t understand why these “MRA” dudes (I can’t bring myself to say “men’s rights activists.” They’re not) are so focused on videogame critics and cartoon characters (a lot of them rant about Lisa Simpson wtf)

magnesium
magnesium
5 years ago

Red pillers really can’t even begin to imagine a situation in which a woman might genuinely enjoy having sex with them.

zoon echon logon
zoon echon logon
5 years ago

Collateralized Pussy Obligations backed by subprime vaginas threaten to collapse the entire sexual marketplace!

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

Red pillers really can’t even begin to imagine a situation in which a woman might genuinely enjoy having sex with them.

Well, given that they’re Redpillers, I can’t even begin to imagine a situation which a woman might genuinely enjoy having sex with them either.

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@Kirbywarp

I found out that the MRWimps and their “Game” was rigged against women when I said I was (and still am) “saving myself” for marriage awhile back. There were no, “Oh, how nice,” comments or any advice to be found; they were all insults. At the time, I thought they were all trolls and dismissed them. It wasn’t until recent my rediscovery of the Red Pill subreddit and the finding this website in recent days (yay!) that a lot of MRWimps *believe* their garbage. Or at the very least, they want to believe it and are trying so hard to substitute it for reality.

You’re right that with many of them that feminism is The Enemy that must be destroyed. I can understand their discomfort with the word feminism to some extent; where I come from, “feminism” is strongly linked with the *really* radical feminism lesbian separatist movement that’s near my neck of the woods. But of course, there are many contexts and branches of feminism, and the “basic and normal” (i.e., First and Second Wave) feminism philosophies are just called “common sense” in my area. 😉

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

Oh, darn. Couldn’t edit on time. I forgot to mention earlier: “and parts of Third Wave feminism” in the last parenthesis.

Bina
5 years ago

Women are the Quantum Slut; simultaneously in the position of having sex way too much and being way too stingey with their sex-bestowing.

Big difference is that, while in Quantum Mechanics you make a measurement in order to collapse the wave function, in Quantum Sexchanics the wave function collapses perpetually based on what annoy the angry misogynist most at the given moment.

Schrödinger’s Slut!

And of course, when she gets old and spinstery, she’ll have Schrödinger’s Cat to keep her company.

Hey, even a maybe-nonexistent cat is better company than these bozos.

Buttercup Q. Skullpants
Buttercup Q. Skullpants
5 years ago

In terms of commodities, vaginas are more like a Veblen good for these guys. The more inaccessible it becomes, the more they view it as the ultimate alpha luxury status symbol, and the more theIr demand goes up. It must drive them crazy to be awash in porn and Tindr all the time and still be unable to get women to sleep with them. Even when they do manage to get laid, sleeping with women who actively seek out recreational sex doesn’t bump up their Alpha Score very much. Hence the complaint about modern-day vagina being devalued and worthless. If everybody’s driving a Mercedes, how can you keep score?

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

Victorious Parasol | January 28, 2016 at 7:57 pm
The phrase “pussy cartel” is reminding me of the card game Pit, where you trade cards in a simulation of commodities trading. I should really stop trying to imagine what the Red Pill edition of Pit would be. The modern version of Pit includes cocoa. I’ll think about that instead.

That sounds kind of fun. Have another game rec in exchange: Fluxx. I was introduced to it by one of my college professors.

Fluxx is an odd one, because you can’t explain the rules of the game to people that well.

The only rules are: 1. The rules change depending on what cards people play and 2. you have to collect “goal” cards by having “keeper” cards.

And the rules can be anything from a “Everyone now draws two cards on their turn instead of one” to a “You have to speak in an English accent from the rest of your turn or else you forefit a Keeper card”, depending on what version you’re playing.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
5 years ago

When did this happen? I wonder if this dingdong is aware that people have had to get married, without engagement, because women got pregnant first. And that this has happened throughout history and long BEFORE history, too.

There’s this philosophy in which people believe that the world and other people don’t exist and that only yourself is real. The world ends when you die.

I am pretty sure it’s popular among the manosphere.

Victorious Parasol
Victorious Parasol
5 years ago

@Paradoxical Intention

Oh, yes! We have a Fluxx deck around here somewhere. Great fun. Haven’t played in forever, it seems like.

Pit was a blast to play as a kid because you’re SUPPOSED to yell loudly and try to make yourself heard over everybody else.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ pandapool

‘Solipsism’; as you no doubt already knew.

Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
Scented Fucking Hard Chairs
5 years ago

Then the effort was lowered some more and the couple only had to be “going steady”. Next was “in a committed relationship” …

Aren’t those two names for the exact same thing?

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

There’s this philosophy in which people believe that the world and other people don’t exist and that only yourself is real. The world ends when you die.

It’s called solipsism. It’s not a particularly good philosophy, partly because it presents an unfalsifiable model of reality, and tends to promote a particularly pernicious form of close-mindedness.

I suspect that the people who take on that sort of view and then don’t later reject it as being stupid are the sort who don’t usually face consequences for bad behavior.

Peta
Peta
5 years ago

Wow, I think they may have missed the pertinent historical fact that marriage is primarily a property contract, and that until 1902 women couldnt vote let alone own their own property, and the way their property was distributed was thrugh marriage.

The rage expressed is ironically because marriage does not any longer control women’s sexuality because it no longer controls their economy, therefore they are technically free sexually and socially. They no longer depend solely as they once did on a man’s permission to exist. Suffragette tells us that those women knew that their best weapon was to commit crimes agaist property, men’s favourite thing.

Men who controlled the property, controlled the fertility and natch the vag connected to the valuable brood mare. Clearly that deal didnt work for women otherwise marriage would have continued to be a voluntary state for economically free women, and it would be thriving for hetero women. Its interesting that same sex marriage is on the rise.

Marriage is too riven with patriarcgy to work for many women. iAnd it never really controlled their sexuality ( genomic testing tells us this) certainly never as well as the social shame that gave us those ever loving shame labels, slut, whore, hussy, slag, slattern – we know these are the ones that give it away for free. Bitches and cunts are the ones you have to punch to get it. Men think “if it’s not controlled by us then we have to attack your sexuality as dirty or frigid” so you have no where to go but get back in the box we have for you.

These guys are afraid because the will not inherit the legal or social control that gave us the “definitions” of feminity and female sexualitythat are so out of sybch with what women want. So now they need to make women fearful of their “devaluation” in order to make them comply. Pretty transparent. I think their level of anger tells us how successful their plan is…what they really need is to learn how to get pussy based on merit not threat, intimidation shame or fear. Old habits die hard.

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

…That being said, I don’t think manospherians are solipsistic for the most part. They just tend to think that the feelings of entitled dudebros are the only thing that matter, not that they’re the only things which exist.

Steampunked
Steampunked
5 years ago

I know a story regarding someone who was an unbearable University-style solipsist about twenty years ago, constantly irking the bejeebers out of everyone else in any of his classes – he was enrolled in computing, rumour was it was because he couldn’t get into philosophy. They wouldn’t put up with the poor standard of his arguments.

One day after he’d been badgering someone else who had been having a rough time, and wouldn’t let them alone (‘I’m not doing this to you, I’m doing this to me!’) the guy lost his temper and thumped him.

The sputtering was ignored and the comment was:

‘You did this to yourself, you know.’

Nequam
Nequam
5 years ago

Now you have me wondering if anyone has repeatedly punched (even just light taps) a solipsist while saying “Stop hitting yourself!”

Petrovna
Petrovna
5 years ago

Who are these men who talk to women, give them attention etc if women send them naked pictures?
Am I living in a different reality?!

I have an impression that most of these men are delusional, residing in a universe they constructed in their minds, in which all women do is trade their photos and have sex with mysterious “alpha” males while men try to get naked photos from women and have sex with them the way supposedly “alpha” men do it.

It could be mind construct influenced by porn in which women crave for sex. Porn can give you a general impression that women have sex constantly, with so many men, just not with you. And that makes you angry…

“I think the next major innovation will be women grouping together to offer threesomes to men in exchange for attention. ”
In my experience, I don’t have to offer sex to men to get their attention. I get other people’s attention with a good advice or kind words, with my cooking, with analyses I make for my work colleagues and so on…
So I presume this only happens in their heads.

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
5 years ago

…That being said, I don’t think manospherians are solipsistic for the most part. They just tend to think that the feelings of entitled dudebros are the only thing that matter, not that they’re the only things which exist.

It’s more about how they don’t understand history and think only their experience and what they seen is fact more than anything, if you understand.

Paradoxical Intention
5 years ago

@Jackie: Oh, the whole “As a cishet white dude, my experiences are universal, and if I don’t see something happening, it’s not really happening!” thing?

I don’t know if there’s a word for that.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@’paradoxy

Three words: false consensus effect.

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@Buttercup

Those guys should *really* get away from porn and Tinder; being constantly on those would very quickly warp one’s perspective.

Seriously, they need to get off the Internet for at least a couple months (or years), so they can go into healthy relationships. Also, they need to go in the great outdoors for a while. Camping and hiking and sometimes-enjoying nature (darn you, mosquito bites!) really puts your everyday life in perspective, believe me. 😉

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@Paradoxical

I can’t think of a word. What about: cishet-white syndrome?

amandajane5
amandajane5
5 years ago

There isn’t a word for it because they assume “reality” is the word, and I think we’ve already tried with delusional paranoiac.

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@amandajane

Well, there is a specific name for that bias/logical fallacy. It’s on the tip of my tongue. Eergh, I don’t want to “cheat” and look it up on the omniscient interwebs; it will come to me eventually. XD

But yeah, the MRWimps have that bias/fallacy big time.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ epsilon

See above 🙂

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

😀

Thanks for the laugh! Ah, I love this community. 🙂

This community stays quite positive despite the awful content the MRWimps often puts out. 😉

Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
Pandapool -- The Species that Endangers YOU (aka Jackie; currently using they/their, he/his, she/her pronouns)
5 years ago

Hmm, I wouldn’t consider it false consensus effect, more, like, they have a very specific view of how things work and how people act based on their own experiences. It has nothing about how they believe things should be as what they think things were like.

Like, they listened to old, white men wax poetic about the good ol’ days too much or something and that’s how they thought people actually acted, ya know? I think we discuss this before and described it as “false nostalgia”, but it’s more like having a 6th grade understanding of history and thinking that’s 100% accurate and correct.

Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
Friendly Neighborhood Dragon Arthur
5 years ago

So how exactly does someone beat one of these MRWimps anyway?

Do I tell these guys that they don’t represent me because I don’t believe I’m entitled to sex and a relationship? Likewise, that I think that most “gender norms” are actually quite stupid and pointless, thus they also don’t represent me in that regard?

Because I have to put up with some sexist a-holes in the art school I go to, and I need to figure how to stand up to them at some point…

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@FNDA

When they assert something, like “women shouldn’t be in the medical profession”, get them to explain exactly why they think that. Then, beat them up with logic. 🙂

It’s a good idea to get reaquainted with neurological science, how to read a study and study flaws, because at some point they’ll bring up that “men are smarter and better at math than women”, which is patently not true.

It’s super important to stay very calm during an argument. It’s much easier to do so when armed with the facts.

What specifically crops up that’s bothering you at your school? The double standard of promiscuity and sexual expectations, or something else?

mildlymagnificent
mildlymagnificent
5 years ago

I just had a thought about the “history” of marriage. It’s worth looking at marriages of the majority of people of past societies rather than limiting ourselves to the very small groups of aristocrats and land-owners. It’s not just the witless maunderings of thebears1986 and his ilk, a lot of people with a conventional history education tend to have too concentrated a focus on propertied classes.

The easiest read on the topic would be The Subversive Family: An Alternative History of Love and Marriage by Ferdinand Mount. His very conservative politics show through at various times. But his emphasis on digging through archives of weird and wonderful legal proceedings affecting ordinary people makes it an interesting read.

People who favour xtianity should skip Chapter 1 and come back to it after reading other parts, especially the introduction. He’s obviously extremely disappointed by his research showing that, unlike his previously rose-tinted view of the role of the church, the church was not supportive or helpful At All when it came to families, women, children. And it shows. (It’s a bit like a recent convert to not smoking or not drinking. Everything about the former favourite is abhorrent, vile and disgusting.) He’s positively vitriolic when criticising the church.

Epsilon
Epsilon
5 years ago

@mildlymagnificent

Correct. Every single (corrupt) organization that wanted power and absolute authority wanted to isolate individuals, specifically break up and get away from the family, and prevent a new one if possible. It’s the same tactic that dictators have used before and during their reign, and religion is no exception. One doesn’t need to look at much farther than, say, the Catholic Church, centuries ago and more recently. Also, the more recent cults that sprang up are smaller but pertinent examples.

Part of the reason why some of these movements, like the MRAs and TRP forums, is that they contain some amount if truth, which can make it difficult to distinguish from the lies or things that don’t mach up with reality. Doubly difficult if it’s mostly a dissenting philosophy, because criticism is often viewed as more credible than an opinion that’s mostly or wholly positive.

To be clear, I’m not banging on religion as a whole or anyone’s specific religion, here; it’s just that it’s easy to abuse authority. Because power corrupts and all that.

EJ (The Other One)
5 years ago

@Friendly Neighbourhood Dragon Arthur:
I read your post as meaning that you identify (and present) as male. If that’s not the case, please tell me.

I’ve found that the best way to do it is to let them see that you find them absurd. MRAs are extraordinarily sensitive to not being taken seriously, and simply showing them that you think their philosophy is unworthy of being taken seriously is far more powerful than any amount of patient counterarguments. Don’t allow them to frame the debate as being between equal and opposite sides (MRAs vs Feminists) but instead treat them as the equivalent of flat earthers.

Never be afraid to simply laugh and walk away. That annoys them more than you can possibly know.

It helps if you come across as someone they would consider high-status within the MRA cult of what it means to be a man, because then your disapproval can’t easily be shrugged off. Fortunately most of this status can be gained as the side effects of being a decent human being.

Simply being content in your own skin, being happy with your relationship status, and enjoying doing things you’re good at is inherently a threat to them because one of the underlying beliefs of MRAdom is that men shouldn’t be happy with the world as it stands.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Epsilon

My* parents and grandparents had several choice words for such highly promiscuous, sexist men, believe it or not. Many of them are too crass for the purpose of this discussion, but they do involve curse words and the word “cad.

*I don’t know about any one else, but mine were extremely consistent in moral/ethical standards for everyone. It’s actually a bit shocking, considering how they were raised.

I’m fascinated. Do you have any theories about why this many people (at least four and possibly six) would have such consistently nonsexist standards when it came to sex? (Was it your culture? A cad in the family tree? Maybe a couple of really strong grandmothers? Religion?)

Inquiring minds need to know. That is, if you want to share.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@magnesium

Red pillers really can’t even begin to imagine a situation in which a woman might genuinely enjoy having sex with them.

Yeah, that’s probably been the experience of Red Pillers the time or two they had sex.

And naturally they’re not going to try to become more sexually skilled, more charming, or more loving. Or a better listener. Or the guy who surprises his date with flowers. Or notices that her eyes are a really pretty shade of green. Nah. Instead, they’ll sit in front of their computer screens and shout “!!!Whores!!!”

dust bunny
dust bunny
5 years ago

These people think as little of men as they do of women, don’t they.

Yes. They’re aware they’re being petty and hateful and deliberately constructing their worldview to be as cynical as possible. Also they’re aware they’re making shit up. They’re engaged in this competition of one-upmanship, to see who can put the worst spin on things. And to justify this, they claim all men are like them and that it’s not possible for them to be better. It’s “natural” to be completely selfish.

This awareness may not be fully conscious, but they reveal it subtly all the time.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

I always appreciate any enlightened discussion of spinsters.

My father was a truly toxic individual. Once, at a gathering of the extended family, he mocked my mother for “almost ending up a spinster.” I felt obliged to stand up for my mother but knew I had to be extremely crafty in order to avoid his wrath coming down on both of us. (Yes! I am a female white knight! I take my sacred vows of white knighthood very seriously.)

Drawing upon my reading of feminist scholars, I casually remarked to my mother in full hearing of everyone present, “Did you know that the word ‘spinster’ has an interesting history? It means ‘a woman who spins'”–thereby composting my father’s poison. The attention in the room shifted from my mother’s alleged deficiency to a consideration of a word and its origins.

dust bunny
dust bunny
5 years ago

If my real goal was to maximize my chances of getting teh sex, and the idea is that women don’t like men who “know the truth” about feminism, then wouldn’t the best strategy be to be a feminist in person but an anti-feminist on the internet?

The horrifying thing is, I’ve associated with a lot of unsavory un-feminist (atheist, libertarian, startup douche, scifi fan, stem dude, metalhead, brogrammer, neoreactionary, you name it) types in my life, and this is what they say. I was a “cool girl” (I’m not a girl) and I “got it” so they told me quite openly and proudly about cynically pretending to be feminist to all women they became involved with. They wish they didn’t need to, and they will drop the act the minute they think

Fortunately most aren’t very good at it, but the majority of women and woman-shaped beings, especially the young ones, aren’t that enlightened about feminism, and have been trained all their lives to ignore the warning signs instead of paying careful attention to them.

I’m sure you’ve heard someone claim men talk a certain way when there are no women around. Well, it’s true of many of them. Who seem quite normal, decent and even sensitive. If I had a dollar for every time I’ve told a trusted and otherwise decent male friend his friend is a vile and hostile sexist and got a reaction of incredulity, excusing and confusion, I’d be almost a dollar hundredaire.

* jerk-free, but also non-sexist, respectfull, no racist, not homophobic, not transphobic, no arrogant prick,… (am I too picky?)

For reasons mentioned above, I do believe expecting to find a non-sexist man may lead you to be disappointed. There aren’t that many to go around, and most of what glitters is not gold at all.

But this isn’t to say that you shouldn’t be that picky. Like someone already said, those are minimum requirements.

dust bunny
dust bunny
5 years ago

It’s not surprising whatsoever that every time these MRWimps discuss a “sexual market” with a pseudo-Darwinistic undertone that they *never* bring up a man’s market/biological worth. Specifically, if a woman has lots of casual sex, she’s cheap/free/worthless. So, what does that make men who have lots of casual sex? By that logic, *definitely* worthless.

They talk about male SMV a lot. Mostly to gloat about how, supposedly, men age like fine wine compared to those wall-hitting females.

They believe women have herd mentality, and they all want the same men because men are high status if all women want them. So having sex with many partners makes a man desirable in their bizarro universe.

Nevermind that if you ask women they say the opposite. Women are children and they don’t know what they want, amirite? They always say what they think will make them look good.

Andzzz
Andzzz
5 years ago

In. His. Dreams.

dust bunny
dust bunny
5 years ago

@ Petrovna

They share nudes women have sent them or let them take (sometimes money is involved) on imageboards. They get posted and reposted and re-reposted. Of course there’s a massive selection effect, but if you keep seeing dozens or hundreds every day, and you’re a simple-minded misogynist, naturally you’re going to think it happens all the time.

And from what I gather it does actually seem to be common for younger people to send nudes. Teenage girls do often think they have to give in to men’s demands to keep their attention, and haven’t learned about the concept of enthusiastic consent yet. There’s this persistent trope, that women have to bribe men with sex into giving them a relationship, that relationships are a constant negotiation over what sex acts women owe men for the attention and affection they’ve received, and that this is normal and healthy. So on top of those teenage girls who do it because they want to, there are plenty who do it because they think they have to.

@ Epsilon

Seriously, they need to get off the Internet for at least a couple months (or years), so they can go into healthy relationships.

I don’t think this is a good idea. It would be ideal if everyone could get a second or nth chance, but in this case it would involve an innocent person bearing the risk of these guys regressing or only having faked their rehabilitation. It’s not my place to say people aren’t allowed to take a chance on whoever they want, but encouraging them to do so? Even worse, encouraging misogynists to change by dangling the reward of a relationship with a woman in front of them? Just, no.

dhag85
dhag85
5 years ago

OT but I loved Huckabee’s first answer in the undercard debate last night. The question was, 8 years ago he won the Iowa caucus and now he’s way behind, so why is the message not working this time?

His answer (almost exact quote): “It’s not that the message isn’t working, it’s just not getting out. I’m saying the same exact things now as I did 8 years ago!”

I think I see the problem!!! :p

Snowberry
Snowberry
5 years ago

His answer (almost exact quote): “It’s not that the message isn’t working, it’s just not getting out. I’m saying the same exact things now as I did 8 years ago!”

Huckabee’s real problem is that, in the past 8 years, his image has gone from “Influential christian who actually cares for the poor” to “Unrepenting pedophilia apologist”. Not a whole lot of people are going to listen to his message regardless of what it is. The Republican Right as a whole isn’t really very much like the manospherians, even if they share some beliefs in common.

Well, okay, the culture has changed a little since then and that probably has an effect too. But I suspect that, under the circumstances, an unchanged culture wouldn’t really help anyway.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

@Epsilon

Yep, women can’t ever “win” with MRWimps.

Women can win–by not playing by their rules.

I know that you already knew that. But I just had to say it.

Alan Robertshaw
Alan Robertshaw
5 years ago

@ dragon

Others have already provided brilliant advice. Do you have to engage them though? I’m reminded of the quote “Never wrestle with a pig. You both get covered in shit but the pig enjoys it”

If of course they’re actively making your life intolerable then the strategies outlined previously are a good bet.

Kat
Kat
5 years ago

I love Red Pillers’ predictions.

But I need a timeline.

Seriously, Red Piller, how can I take you seriously if you don’t provide me with a date? “I think” and “The next logical step” is so vague, so…beta.

If I’m going to be able to verify your awesome psychic prediction, I’m going to need something solid: the year, month, and day when women will be obliged to start offering threesomes to get any male attention.

Hey, thanks!